[NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
Dear list,

My question is: Can I somehow force an inner itemization to begin on
the same line as the outer one?

Background:

I am writing solutions to an exam and use nested itemizations, as in
the test file

\starttext
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item Bla bla
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item Det sökta
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
\stoptext

Now the problem is that the a) does not stay on the same line as the
2., but is moved down half a line (this differs depending on the
amount of text in the file).

In the example code below this problem does not happen, but it happens
in my file (which contains solutions to an exam not yet given, so I
cannot show it to you).

However, please see the attached png file to see what it looks like in
my original file.

Best regards, Mikael
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[NTG-context] Split \startalign content on more pages

2012-05-10 Thread elgo...@libero.it
Hello,
I'm a new user of context (and of this mailing list).
I'm facing some problems in splitting the \startalign ... \stopalign content 
on more pages.
This is the formulas:

\setupformulas[align=right]
\startformula
\startalign[n=3, align={left, right, left}]
\NC \text{dove} \quad   \NC Y \NC = min \left({{e_{yfitest}} \over {R_{fi}}}; 
0.04 \right) = min \left({{\sbc{e_yfitest}} \over {\sba{R_fi}}}; 0.04 \right)
=\sbd{Y} \NR
\NC \NC Z \NC = log_{10} \left({1 \over Y} 
\right) = log_{10} \left({1 
\over \sbd{Y}} \right) = \sbc{Z} \NR
\NC \NC X \NC = {{r_{fi}} \over {D_{ifi}}} 
= {{\sba{r_fi}} \over {\sba
{D_ifi}}} = \sbd{X} \NR
\NC \NC N \NC = 1.006 - {1 \over {6.2 + 
\left(90 \cdot Y \right)^4}} = 
1.006 - {1 \over {6.2 + \left(90 \cdot \sbd{Y} \right)^4}} = \sbd{N} \NR
\startluacode
if X==0.06 then
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.06} \\NC = N \\cdot \\left(-0.3635 
\\cdot Z^3 
+ 2.2124 \\cdot Z^2 - 3.2937 \\cdot Z + 1.8873 \\right) = \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC   \\NC = N \\cdot 
\\left(-0.3635 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^3 
+ 2.2124 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^2 - 3.2937 \\cdot \\sbc{Z} + 1.8873 \\right) = \\sbc
{beta006} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta \\NC =\\beta_{0.06}=\\sbc{beta006} \\NR)
elseif X0.06 and X0.1 then
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.06} \\NC = N \\cdot \\left(-0.3635 
\\cdot Z^3 
+ 2.2124 \\cdot Z^2 - 3.2937 \\cdot Z + 1.8873 \\right) = \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC   \\NC = N \\cdot 
\\left(-0.3635 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^3 
+ 2.2124 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^2 - 3.2937 \\cdot \\sbc{Z} + 1.8873 \\right) = \\sbc
{beta006} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.1} \\NC = N \\cdot \\left(-0.1833 
\\cdot Z^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot Z^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot Z + 0.837 \\right) = \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC   \\NC = N \\cdot 
\\left(-0.1833 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot \\sbc{Z} + 0.837 \\right) = \\sbc
{beta01} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta \\NC = 25 \\cdot \\left[ \\left(0.1 - X 
\\right) 
\\cdot \\beta_{0.06} + \\left(X - 0.06 \\right) \\cdot \\beta_{0.1} \\right]= 
\\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC\\NC = 25 \\cdot \\left[ \\left(0.1 - 
\\sbd{X} 
\\right) \\cdot \\sbc{beta006} + \\left(\\sbd{X} - 0.06 \\right) \\cdot \\sbc
{beta01} \\right]=\\sbd{beta} \\NR)
elseif X==0.1 then
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.1} \\NC = N \\cdot \\left(-0.1833 
\\cdot Z^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot Z^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot Z + 0.837 \\right) = \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC  \\NC = N \\cdot 
\\left(-0.1833 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot \\sbc{Z} + 0.837 \\right) = \\sbc
{beta01} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta   \\NC =\\beta_{0.1}=\\sbc{beta01} 
\\NR)
elseif X0.1 and X0.2 then
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.1} \\NC = N \\cdot \\left(-0.1833 
\\cdot Z^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot Z^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot Z + 0.837 \\right) = \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC   \\NC = N \\cdot 
\\left(-0.1833 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^3 
+ 1.0383 \\cdot \\sbc{Z}^2 - 1.2943 \\cdot \\sbc{Z} + 0.837 \\right) = \\sbc
{beta01} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.2} \\NC = max \\left[ 0.95 \\cdot 
\\left(0.56 
- 1.94 \\cdot Y - 82.5 \\cdot Y^2 \\right); 0.5 \\right] \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC  \\NC = max \\left[ 0.95 \\cdot 
\\left(0.56 
- 1.94 \\cdot \\sbd{Y} - 82.5 \\cdot \\sbd{Y}^2 \\right); 0.5 \\right] = \\sbd
{beta02} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta \\NC = 10 \\cdot \\left[ \\left(0.2 - X 
\\right) 
\\cdot \\beta_{0.1} + \\left(X - 0.1 \\right) \\cdot \\beta_{0.2} \\right]= 
\\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC\\NC = 10 \\cdot \\left[ \\left(0.2 - 
\\sbd{X} 
\\right) \\cdot \\sbc{beta01} + \\left(\\sbd{X} - 0.1 \\right) \\cdot \\sbc
{beta02} \\right]=\\sbd{beta} \\NR)
elseif X==0.2 then
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta_{0.2} \\NC = max \\left[ 0.95 \\cdot 
\\left(0.56 
- 1.94 \\cdot Y - 82.5 \\cdot Y^2 \\right); 0.5 \\right] \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC  \\NC = max \\left[ 0.95 \\cdot 
\\left(0.56 
- 1.94 \\cdot \\sbd{Y} - 82.5 \\cdot \\sbd{Y}^2 \\right); 0.5 \\right] = \\sbd
{beta02} \\NR)
tex.print(\\NC  \\NC \\beta   \\NC =\\beta_{0.2}=\\sbd{beta02} 
\\NR)
end
\stopluacode
\stopalign
\stopformula
\setupformulas[align=middle]

I have already tried to insert split=yes in the options of the align 
environment without success.
I have read in Using \startalign and friends which is a document dated 2006  
that the splitting capability of \startalign is broken. Is it still so?

And by the way, is there a clever way to write a block of text under some 
conditions as shown in the example above other than tex.print(.) which 
forces to escape every command?
Thank you very much.
Bye



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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist mic...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear list,

 My question is: Can I somehow force an inner itemization to begin on
 the same line as the outer one?

 Background:

 I am writing solutions to an exam and use nested itemizations, as in
 the test file

 \starttext
 \startitemize[n][style=sans]
 \item Bla bla
 \item
 \startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
 \item Det sökta
 \stopitemize
 \stopitemize
 \stoptext

 Now the problem is that the a) does not stay on the same line as the
 2., but is moved down half a line (this differs depending on the
 amount of text in the file).

 In the example code below this problem does not happen, but it happens
 in my file (which contains solutions to an exam not yet given, so I
 cannot show it to you).

 However, please see the attached png file to see what it looks like in
 my original file.

 Best regards, Mikael

Dear list,

here is a complete example that shows the problem:

\setuppapersize[A4][A4]

\setuplayout[
topspace=0.7cm,
backspace=0.7cm,
leftmargin=0cm,
rightmargindistance=0cm,
rightmargin=0cm,
footer=0cm,
header=0cm,
width=fit,
height=fit,
]

\mainlanguage[sv]
\enableregime[utf]

\starttext
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item \input tufte
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item Det sökta
\item Bingospjäll
\stopitemize
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
Brynja
\stopitemize

\stoptext

In this example the a) is pushed a bit up instead of down, but I guess
the reason is the same.

Best regards, Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] Units or px

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 00:39, Kip Warner wrote:

Hey list,

ConTeXt 2012.05.08 13:45 reports that the units module is deprecated and
to use the px module in its place. Is it telling the truth or is this a


px? the message is:

The units module is obsolete because functionality is built into the core.


harmless warning?


rather harmless indeed, just a warning

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Split \startalign content on more pages

2012-05-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:44 PM, elgo...@libero.it elgo...@libero.it wrote:

 And by the way, is there a clever way to write a block of text under some
 conditions as shown in the example above other than tex.print(.) which
 forces to escape every command?
 Thank you very much.
 Bye

\starttext
\startluacode
context.starttabulate{|l|r|l}
context(\\NC Hello\\vrule width 1in height 1pt depth 1pt\\NC World  \\NR)
context.NC() context(Hello\\vrule width 1in height 1pt depth 1pt)
context.NC() context(%s, World) context.NR()
context.NC() context(Hello) context.vrule(72.27*2^16, 2^16,2^16)
context.NC() context(%s, World) context.NR()
context.stoptabulate()
\stopluacode
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

Hello,

I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
document, like in the LaTeX example:


Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it 
to mkiv.


\setupbodyfont[xits]

\starttext

\unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}

$ABC$
$\cal ABC$
$\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
$\mathaltcal ABC$

\stoptext

As this can differ per font, we use symbolic names, and these are 
defined in the lfg files. This functionality is there already for some 
time but probably not wikified (there are examples in the test suite).


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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 02:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


PS: I forgot to send a minimal example. Here it is :)
 
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.tex
 
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.pdf


my editor cannot open minimal examples with more than 10 lines

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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 my editor cannot open
latex
minimal examples with more than 10 lines

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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 09:30, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvistmic...@gmail.com  wrote:

Dear list,

My question is: Can I somehow force an inner itemization to begin on
the same line as the outer one?

Background:

I am writing solutions to an exam and use nested itemizations, as in
the test file

\starttext
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item Bla bla
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item Det sökta
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
\stoptext

Now the problem is that the a) does not stay on the same line as the
2., but is moved down half a line (this differs depending on the
amount of text in the file).

In the example code below this problem does not happen, but it happens
in my file (which contains solutions to an exam not yet given, so I
cannot show it to you).

However, please see the attached png file to see what it looks like in
my original file.

Best regards, Mikael


Dear list,

here is a complete example that shows the problem:

\setuppapersize[A4][A4]

\setuplayout[
topspace=0.7cm,
backspace=0.7cm,
leftmargin=0cm,
rightmargindistance=0cm,
rightmargin=0cm,
footer=0cm,
header=0cm,
width=fit,
height=fit,
]

\mainlanguage[sv]
\enableregime[utf]

\starttext
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item \input tufte
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item Det sökta
\item Bingospjäll
\stopitemize
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
Brynja
\stopitemize

\stoptext

In this example the a) is pushed a bit up instead of down, but I guess
the reason is the same.


It looks ok in mkii and mkiv ... can someone confirm the problem?

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:05:49 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 10-5-2012 02:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
  PS: I forgot to send a minimal example. Here it is :)
   
  http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.tex
   
  http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.pdf
 
 my editor cannot open minimal examples with more than 10 lines
 
 Hans

You must not be using the same editor (and TeX) as Mojca :)

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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
 font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
 typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
 document, like in the LaTeX example:


 Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it to
 mkiv.

 \setupbodyfont[xits]

But this requires a whole typescript. So there is no way to say
something equivalent to
\font\a=Asana-Math.otf \a
without the need to create a lfg file  so on?

Anyway, your example with Asana broke a compilation, so at least I was
able to realize that I was missing the otf font, whereas yesterday it
was simply ignoring the fact that the font was missing and has typeset
everything in TeX Gyre I think.

 \starttext

    \unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}

And how do I know what is an equivalent of StylisticSet=4 in Lucida?

Would this be something like
italic = { feature = 'ss01', value = 1, comment = Mathematical
Alternative Italic },

where \mathalternate{italic} works as +ss01, but the ss04 not because
it has not been defined in lucida-opentype-math.lfg?

    $ABC$
    $\cal ABC$
    $\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
    $\mathaltcal ABC$

 \stoptext

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 On 10-5-2012 09:30, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
 In this example the a) is pushed a bit up instead of down, but I guess
 the reason is the same.


 It looks ok in mkii and mkiv ... can someone confirm the problem?

 Hans
Hm, maybe. In the second startitemize  a) looks a bit misaligned with 2).


\setuppapersize[A4][A4]

\setuplayout[
topspace=0.7cm,
backspace=0.7cm,
leftmargin=0cm,
rightmargindistance=0cm,
rightmargin=0cm,
footer=0cm,
header=0cm,
width=fit,
height=fit,
]

\mainlanguage[sv]
%\enableregime[utf]

\starttext
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item \hbox to0sp{\hss\vrule width 3cm height 0.1pt depth
0sp}\kern-0.25em\input tufte
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item \hbox to0sp{\hss\vrule width 3cm height 0.1pt depth
0sp}\kern-0.25emDet sökta
\item Bingospjäll
\stopitemize
\item \hbox to0sp{\hss\vrule width 3cm height 0.1pt depth
0sp}\kern-0.25em\input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
Brynja
\stopitemize

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

- seems OK with my not-so-recent MkIV - see the attachment.

Lukas


On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:08:57 +0200, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:


It looks ok in mkii and mkiv ... can someone confirm the problem?

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Re: [NTG-context] Font for MetaPost graphics

2012-05-10 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

many thanks Marco for wikifying.

On Tue, 08 May 2012 21:57:04 +0200, Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote:


Thanks a lot Hans for implementing this.

Wikified:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/defineMPinstance
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupMPinstance


Best wishes

Marco



With the permission, I tried to replace the tag texcode with context to get 
source and result.

context mode=mkiv source=yes text=Gives:
...
/context

Unfortunately, the result doesn't appear.

So, what to do to make the example work?

Will it work automatically once the Ctx/MP engine updates on wiki?

Best regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
On 2012-05-10 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz wrote:

 - seems OK with my not-so-recent MkIV - see the attachment.

That also shows the misalignment. It's more visible when you use
\showboxes. Give it a run as it is and then add “Foo” after
\starttext and give it a second run and compare both.

\setuppapersize[A4][A4]

\setuplayout[
topspace=0.7cm,
backspace=0.7cm,
leftmargin=0cm,
rightmargindistance=0cm,
rightmargin=0cm,
footer=0cm,
header=0cm,
width=fit,
height=fit,
]

\mainlanguage[sv]
\enableregime[utf]

\starttext
\showboxes
% uncomment Foo to get proper alignment
% Foo
\startitemize[n][style=sans]
\item \input tufte
\item
\startitemize[a,packed][left={},right={)},stopper=,style=sans]
\item Det sökta
\item Bingospjäll
\stopitemize
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
\item \input tufte
Brynja
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 10:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


Hello,

I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
document, like in the LaTeX example:



Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it to
mkiv.

\setupbodyfont[xits]


But this requires a whole typescript. So there is no way to say


Why? It's a dynamic feature. It's just that we use nicer names than ss01 
and such.



something equivalent to
 \font\a=Asana-Math.otf \a
without the need to create a lfg file  so on?


I'm not sure what you mean here. You can use \font directly but it has 
no benefits as it's not part of a proper math setup then.



Anyway, your example with Asana broke a compilation, so at least I was
able to realize that I was missing the otf font, whereas yesterday it
was simply ignoring the fact that the font was missing and has typeset
everything in TeX Gyre I think.


I never used Asana.


\starttext

\unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}


And how do I know what is an equivalent of StylisticSet=4 in Lucida?


Well, that's just ss04 but referring to a stylistic set at the user 
level is a bad idea as that's not standardized



Would this be something like
 italic = { feature = 'ss01', value = 1, comment = Mathematical
Alternative Italic },


Indeed.


where \mathalternate{italic} works as +ss01, but the ss04 not because
it has not been defined in lucida-opentype-math.lfg?


Indeed, although of course I could make it honor the fuzzy ss01 etc 
variants too but no one can guarantee that these ss's always stay the 
same. In principle we can even define commands automatically if needed 
but then switching to a different font setup in a document can result in 
unknown commands. After all, there can be 10 different alternate scripts 
in one font and zero in another.



$ABC$
$\cal ABC$
$\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
$\mathaltcal ABC$

\stoptext


Once the dust around math fonts has settled we might end up with some 
standardization in mkiv with respect to the tags used in the lfg files.


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Re: [NTG-context] Font for MetaPost graphics

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
On 2012-05-10 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz wrote:

 With the permission, I tried to replace the tag texcode with context to
 get source and result.
 
 context mode=mkiv source=yes text=Gives:
 ...
 /context
 
 Unfortunately, the result doesn't appear.

The code is MkIV only and the wiki uses MkII.

 So, what to do to make the example work?

Find someone who has time to implement and administrate a working
MkIV wiki solution.

 Will it work automatically once the Ctx/MP engine updates on wiki?

*If* the engine gets updated someday, it will probably work, yes.


Marco


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[NTG-context] japanese spaced

2012-05-10 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

if a paragraph is set to align=block the space between words can be stretched.

If eg. a japanese word is mentioned in such a paragraph the space between the 
japanes characters gets spaced/stretched too (see example attached).

This may be right for japanese texts, but it is wrong if the main/surrounding 
language is not japanese (and thus no additional space between characters is 
wanted).

What is an easy way to avoid this? 
\definestartstop [Japaned] [commands={\language[jp]\DoNotSpace}]??

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example.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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[NTG-context] \doifolderversionelse

2012-05-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi,

I tried to handle some version changes with \doifolderversionelse.
Sadly it does not work here.

Example:

\starttext
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{1010.10.10} {OLDER} {OKAY}% = OLDER
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{2020.20.20} {OLDER} {OKAY}% = OKAY
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{2020}   {OLDER} {OKAY}% = OKAY
\stoptext


Tested with ConTeXt version

2011.11.08 and 2012.05.08

Result is always older.


Regards,  Peter
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[NTG-context] bug? margens with duplex

2012-05-10 Thread Peter Schorsch
Hi,

I am using \ininner and \inouter to set text into the margins. As soon
I also use duplex the margins are messed up at every second page.
Unluckily the [stack=continue] option does not help.

I put an example incl. pictures of the results on my user talk page on
the wiki:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User_talk:Tralalas
That way my problem might be easier to understand.

Any help is welcome as this problem became a major issue for me.

Thanks
P.

(this is a follow up of the discussion: empty lines messing with
margins (in duplex mode) from end of last year)

mtx-context | current version: 2012.04.26 22:27

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Re: [NTG-context] \doifolderversionelse

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 12:00, Peter Rolf wrote:

Hi,

I tried to handle some version changes with \doifolderversionelse.
Sadly it does not work here.

Example:

\starttext
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{1010.10.10} {OLDER} {OKAY}% =  OLDER
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{2020.20.20} {OLDER} {OKAY}% =  OKAY
\doifolderversionelse\contextversion{2020}   {OLDER} {OKAY}% =  OKAY
\stoptext


Tested with ConTeXt version

2011.11.08 and 2012.05.08

Result is always older.


fixed in next beta


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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical alignment in nested itemizations

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 10:57, Marco wrote:

On 2012-05-10 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.l...@pontex.cz  wrote:


- seems OK with my not-so-recent MkIV - see the attachment.


That also shows the misalignment. It's more visible when you use
\showboxes. Give it a run as it is and then add “Foo” after
\starttext and give it a second run and compare both.


it depends on stretch and shrink on a page ... possible fix in next beta


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[NTG-context] standard for bibliographies

2012-05-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
There used to be discussions about some common standard for storing
bibliographies.

I'm testing
http://www.mendeley.com/
and would like to export to ConTeXt-friendly database (bibtex export
is supported). It seems that for that one would have to use
http://citationstyles.org/
so I will try to figure out if The Citation Style Language can be
used to export data to what is currently required by ConTeXt. But if
you are thinking about xml-based format for the future, it might be
worth taking a look at the second website.

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Re: [NTG-context] standard for bibliographies

2012-05-10 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/10/2012 01:29 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

There used to be discussions about some common standard for storing
bibliographies.

I'm testing
 http://www.mendeley.com/
and would like to export to ConTeXt-friendly database (bibtex export
is supported). It seems that for that one would have to use
 http://citationstyles.org/
so I will try to figure out if The Citation Style Language can be
used to export data to what is currently required by ConTeXt. But if
you are thinking about xml-based format for the future, it might be
worth taking a look at the second website.


Just a very quick note: CSL has been developed by Bruce D'Arcus, who 
used to be pretty active on the context list a couple of years ago, so 
you might be able to get some help there. I tried using zotero for a 
while and also looked at CSL, but in the end, I gave up. It is based on 
xml, but I couldn't get my head around it and was just hitting too many 
limitations. But that may have been me, maybe you have more success!


All best

Thomas
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[NTG-context] Error using Asana Math

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
I get the following error:

Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set

Example:

\starttypescript  [myfonts]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [rm] [serif] [pagella]   [default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [ss] [sans]  [heros] [default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [tt] [mono]  [cursor][default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asanamath] [default]
% modern math works
%\definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [modern]   [default]
\stoptypescript

\setupbodyfont [myfonts]

\starttext
A \math{x}
\stoptext

The error is related with the selection of Asana as math font.

Asana Math Version 000.947

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] standard for bibliographies

2012-05-10 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/10/2012 01:35 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

but I couldn't get my head around it and was just hitting too many
limitations


And a short follow-up (because Mojca's question made me google this 
again): one glaring omission to me was the lack of support for 
cross-references within bibliographical lists (e.g., you have a chapter 
in a book and want to refer back to item X in your list). This has been 
asked again and again on the zotero forums. Answer 2007: yes, this is 
coming real soon now. 2008: Well, it needs support from CSL, and may be 
a bit longer. 2009-2011: more requests, no reply. 2012, one of the 
developers: not any time soon... This makes CSL worthless to me, I'm 
afraid. Reference (there are more threads): 
http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/3031/book-section-link-to-book-entered-once/


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Re: [NTG-context] Error using Asana Math

2012-05-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater

On 05/10/2012 01:45 PM, Marco wrote:

I get the following error:

Math error: parameter \Umathquad\displaystyle is not set

Example:

\starttypescript  [myfonts]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [rm] [serif] [pagella]   [default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [ss] [sans]  [heros] [default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [tt] [mono]  [cursor][default]
\definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asanamath] [default]


Try this:

\definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asana] [default]

works for me.
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Re: [NTG-context] Error using Asana Math

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
On 2012-05-10 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:

 Try this:
 
   \definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asana] [default]

That gives:

fontsdefining  unable to define asanamath as 
[myfonts-12pt-mm-mb--1]
! Missing font identifier.

system   tex  error on line 10 in file t.tex: Missing font identifier 
...

 1 \starttypescript  [myfonts]
 2  \definetypeface [myfonts] [rm] [serif] [pagella]   [default]
 3  \definetypeface [myfonts] [ss] [sans]  [heros] [default]
 4  \definetypeface [myfonts] [tt] [mono]  [cursor][default]
 5  \definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asana] [default]
 6  % modern math works
 7  %\definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [modern]   [default]
 8 \stoptypescript
 9 
10   \setupbodyfont [myfonts]
11 
12 \starttext
13  A \math{x}
14 \stoptext

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Error using Asana Math

2012-05-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Marco net...@lavabit.com wrote:
 On 2012-05-10 Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:

 Try this:

       \definetypeface [myfonts] [mm] [math]  [asana] [default]

 That gives:

 fonts            defining  unable to define asanamath as 
 [myfonts-12pt-mm-mb--1]
 ! Missing font identifier.

 system           tex  error on line 10 in file t.tex: Missing font 
 identifier ...

Are you sure that you have the font installed? (./first-setup.sh
--fonts=Asana-Math or the appropriate package in TL)

Mojca
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[NTG-context] \mapsto + SimpleSlides

2012-05-10 Thread Weber, Matthias

Dear all,

I don't get \mapsto to display using SimpleSlides and MkIV.
It shows in normal MkIV documents, and works in MKII

Example below.

Thanks for any advice.

Matthias

\usemodule[simpleslides]
 [style=BottomSquares,
 color=blue]


\starttext

\SlideTitle{Help!}
\startformula
\text{Mk II}\mapsto \text{Mk IV}
\stopformula
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Error using Asana Math

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
On 2012-05-10 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you sure that you have the font installed?

No it's not, the font is in the working directory, where it
apparently is not recognized.

 (./first-setup.sh  --fonts=Asana-Math)

I didn't know that switch. It works now, sorry for the noise and
thanks to both of you.

Marco


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[NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Ian Lawrence
I read on the wiki that now svg is natively supported. Hmm.

I am missing a trick here:

I try

___
\starttext

Hello world
\externalfigure[ChangingField_ILUC.pdf

\stoptext
__

And all goes as expected: I get output with the expected graphic in place

But if I try

___

\starttext

Hello world
\externalfigure[ChangingField_ILUC.svg]

\stoptext

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I get :

!LuaTeX error: cannot find image file 'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf'
 == Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

Is it time to update context? From the date of the wiki revision it
seems not, since I am on ConTeXt  ver: 2011.11.29 23:11 MKIV

FWIW, I cannot find the intermediate file
'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf' on my disk either…both graphics files
are in the same location, both exist, both are named correctly….

Thanks

Ian
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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 10 May 2012, Ian Lawrence wrote:


I read on the wiki that now svg is natively supported. Hmm.


No. You need to have inkscape installed (and in your PATH) for svg to pdf 
conversion to work.



FWIW, I cannot find the intermediate file
'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf' on my disk either…both graphics files
are in the same location, both exist, both are named correctly….


@Hans, could we change the conversion so that it checks for inkscape and 
gives a more sensible warning if inkscape is absent?


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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 16:59, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2012, Ian Lawrence wrote:


I read on the wiki that now svg is natively supported. Hmm.


No. You need to have inkscape installed (and in your PATH) for svg to
pdf conversion to work.


FWIW, I cannot find the intermediate file
'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf' on my disk either…both graphics files
are in the same location, both exist, both are named correctly….


@Hans, could we change the conversion so that it checks for inkscape and
gives a more sensible warning if inkscape is absent?


so what is a robust check ...


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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
On 2012-05-10 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

  @Hans, could we change the conversion so that it checks for inkscape and
  gives a more sensible warning if inkscape is absent?
 
 so what is a robust check ...

I don't know about robustness, but “which inkscape” seems to be the
candidate from my point of view for POSIX systems. The windows
equivalent would be “WHERE inkscape” according to google (untested).

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:59:41AM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Thu, 10 May 2012, Ian Lawrence wrote:
 
 I read on the wiki that now svg is natively supported. Hmm.
 
 No. You need to have inkscape installed (and in your PATH) for svg
 to pdf conversion to work.
 
 FWIW, I cannot find the intermediate file
 'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf' on my disk either…both graphics files
 are in the same location, both exist, both are named correctly….
 
 @Hans, could we change the conversion so that it checks for inkscape
 and gives a more sensible warning if inkscape is absent?

There is also rsvg-convert (from LibRSVG[1]) which can be faster (but in
some corner cases, as accurate as Inkscape).

[1] http://live.gnome.org/LibRsvg

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Re: [NTG-context] bug? margens with duplex

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 12:15, Peter Schorsch wrote:

Hi,

I am using \ininner and \inouter to set text into the margins. As soon
I also use duplex the margins are messed up at every second page.
Unluckily the [stack=continue] option does not help.

I put an example incl. pictures of the results on my user talk page on
the wiki:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User_talk:Tralalas
That way my problem might be easier to understand.

Any help is welcome as this problem became a major issue for me.

Thanks
P.

(this is a follow up of the discussion: empty lines messing with
margins (in duplex mode) from end of last year)


I uploaded a beta that might do a better job but as well could introduce 
other problems, so testing is needed.


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Re: [NTG-context] \mapsto + SimpleSlides

2012-05-10 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/10/2012 03:37 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote:

Dear all,

I don't get \mapsto to display using SimpleSlides and MkIV.
It shows in normal MkIV documents, and works in MKII

Example below.

Thanks for any advice.

Matthias

\usemodule[simpleslides]
  [style=BottomSquares,
  color=blue]


\starttext

\SlideTitle{Help!}
\startformula
\text{Mk II}\mapsto \text{Mk IV}
\stopformula
\stoptext


Works for me, I get normal output from your example. What version are 
you using?


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Re: [NTG-context] mapsto + SimpleSlides

2012-05-10 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/10/2012 05:53 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote:

Is that too old?:

ConTeXt  ver: 2011.05.18 18:04 MKIV  fmt: 2012.5.5  int: english/english

Matthias


Depends. Mkiv is moving quite fast, so if you really need to use mkiv, 
this is way too old. Be warned though: things have changed pretty 
dramatically over the past 6 months or so, so if this is for something 
with a tight deadline, I wouldn't just simply update. Install an 
additional context tree somewhere and see if your documents still compile.


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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 10 May 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:


On 10-5-2012 16:59, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Thu, 10 May 2012, Ian Lawrence wrote:


I read on the wiki that now svg is natively supported. Hmm.


No. You need to have inkscape installed (and in your PATH) for svg to
pdf conversion to work.


FWIW, I cannot find the intermediate file
'm_k_i_v_ChangingField_ILUC.pdf' on my disk either…both graphics files
are in the same location, both exist, both are named correctly….


@Hans, could we change the conversion so that it checks for inkscape and
gives a more sensible warning if inkscape is absent?


so what is a robust check ...


How about just implementing the unix which command in lua?

(untested code)

function which(string file)
  local path = os.getenv(PATH)
  local splitter = lpeg.splitat(io.fileseparator)
  local directories = lpeg.match(splitter, path)

  for dir in directories
if io.exists(file.join(dir,file)) then
  return true
end
  end

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Re: [NTG-context] mapsto + SimpleSlides

2012-05-10 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/10/2012 06:38 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote:

Hmm, TeXShop reports in the console that I am executing

luatex
--fmt=/Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en
--lua=/Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en.lui
--backend=pdf ./test.tex

which points to the ConTeXt installation I did a few days ago, following
the wiki. However, then it continues with

system  cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system  beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
etc etc

which points to my TeXlive installation, which shouldn't be used at all???

Did I mess up the path variable?

$Path is

/Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/texbin:/usr/X11/bin


Thanks for any help -

Matthias


Please keep messages on the list, don't send them to me in private.

I haven't used texshop in at least seven years. There's a section on the 
wiki on it, have you followed it?


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone/Mac_Installation

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Re: [NTG-context] mapsto + SimpleSlides

2012-05-10 Thread Matthias Weber
Yes, that's exactly what I did...

Matthias
On May 10, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 On 05/10/2012 06:38 PM, Weber, Matthias wrote:
 Hmm, TeXShop reports in the console that I am executing
 
 luatex
 --fmt=/Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en
 --lua=/Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/210a96fef5fbab446fd11afa77acb026/formats/cont-en.lui
 --backend=pdf ./test.tex
 
 which points to the ConTeXt installation I did a few days ago, following
 the wiki. However, then it continues with
 
 system  cont-new.mkiv loaded
 (/usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
 system  beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
 etc etc
 
 which points to my TeXlive installation, which shouldn't be used at all???
 
 Did I mess up the path variable?
 
 $Path is
 
 /Applications/ConTeXtStandalone/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/texbin:/usr/X11/bin
 
 
 Thanks for any help -
 
 Matthias
 
 Please keep messages on the list, don't send them to me in private.
 
 I haven't used texshop in at least seven years. There's a section on the wiki 
 on it, have you followed it?
 
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone/Mac_Installation
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Units or px

2012-05-10 Thread Kip Warner
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 09:55 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 10-5-2012 00:39, Kip Warner wrote:
  Hey list,
 
  ConTeXt 2012.05.08 13:45 reports that the units module is deprecated and
  to use the px module in its place. Is it telling the truth or is this a
 
 px? the message is:
 
 The units module is obsolete because functionality is built into the core.
 
  harmless warning?
 
 rather harmless indeed, just a warning
 
 Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] standard for bibliographies

2012-05-10 Thread Pontus Lurcock
On Thu 10 May 2012, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

  one glaring omission to me was the lack of support for
 cross-references within bibliographical lists (e.g., you have a
 chapter in a book and want to refer back to item X in your list).
 This has been asked again and again on the zotero forums. Answer
 2007: yes, this is coming real soon now. 2008: Well, it needs
 support from CSL, and may be a bit longer. 2009-2011: more requests,
 no reply. 2012, one of the developers: not any time soon... This
 makes CSL worthless to me, I'm afraid.

This is certainly a limitation for Zotero (I noticed it as well when I
tried it out a little while ago) but I'm not sure that it's a problem
for CSL. As I understand it, CSL defines formatting for typeset
citations and bibliography entries. It's not meant to handle tasks
such as cross-referencing chapter entries to their book entries --
that should be the job of the software (Zotero, Mendeley, etc.) which
is using CSL for its formatting. My experience with CSL is limited,
though, so I could be wrong about this.

At any rate, CSL seems to be achieving a critical mass of usage and
support, and there's a huge number of predefined, publicly available
styles ( https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki ).

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Re: [NTG-context] Simple rings with svg

2012-05-10 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, May 10 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:

 so what is a robust check ...

Perhaps just the exit code of the inkscape call?

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[NTG-context] Markdown subitems fail

2012-05-10 Thread Marco
Subitems in markdown behave buggy. Example:

\usemodule [markdown]
\starttext
\startmarkdown
- Some item
- Another item
- Subitem one
- Subitem two
\stopmarkdown
\stoptext

Result:

• Some item
• Another item
  startmarkdownitemize[packed]
  startitem Subitem one stopitem stopmarkdownitemize

Using pandoc works fine. I assume the markdown module uses a custom
lua parser internally.

Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] Markdown subitems fail

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 20:56, Marco wrote:

Subitems in markdown behave buggy. Example:

\usemodule [markdown]
\starttext
\startmarkdown
- Some item
- Another item
 - Subitem one
 - Subitem two
\stopmarkdown
\stoptext

Result:

• Some item
• Another item
   startmarkdownitemize[packed]
   startitem Subitem one stopitem stopmarkdownitemize

Using pandoc works fine. I assume the markdown module uses a custom
lua parser internally.


indeed, and I need to update it (some ay)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] standard for bibliographies

2012-05-10 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-5-2012 19:25, Pontus Lurcock wrote:

On Thu 10 May 2012, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


  one glaring omission to me was the lack of support for
cross-references within bibliographical lists (e.g., you have a
chapter in a book and want to refer back to item X in your list).
This has been asked again and again on the zotero forums. Answer
2007: yes, this is coming real soon now. 2008: Well, it needs
support from CSL, and may be a bit longer. 2009-2011: more requests,
no reply. 2012, one of the developers: not any time soon... This
makes CSL worthless to me, I'm afraid.


This is certainly a limitation for Zotero (I noticed it as well when I
tried it out a little while ago) but I'm not sure that it's a problem
for CSL. As I understand it, CSL defines formatting for typeset
citations and bibliography entries. It's not meant to handle tasks
such as cross-referencing chapter entries to their book entries --
that should be the job of the software (Zotero, Mendeley, etc.) which
is using CSL for its formatting. My experience with CSL is limited,
though, so I could be wrong about this.

At any rate, CSL seems to be achieving a critical mass of usage and
support, and there's a huge number of predefined, publicly available
styles ( https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/wiki ).


It should not be that hard to support it if only I had a reason to spend 
time on it (as I never need to use citations etc).


Hans


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