Re: [NTG-context] mptopdf problem: he is broken and asking for fix
On 03/26/2013 11:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3/26/2013 10:07 PM, Martin Bruchanov wrote: Hi, I'm using: MPtoPDF 1.4.1 : running 'mpost --mem=mpost linejoin.mp' This is MetaPost, version 1.800 (kpathsea version 6.1.1dev) Attached sources give following error: This is MetaPost, version 1.800 (kpathsea version 6.1.1dev) 26 MAR 2013 22:04 **linejoin.mp (mpost.mp (/mnt/data/tex/texmf/metapost/base/plain.mp Preloading the plain mem file, version 1.004) ) (./linejoin.mp (./line_makro.mp) [1 ! This can't happen (degenerate spec). endfig-scantokens.extra_endfig;shipit; endgroup l.24 endfig ; I'm broken. Please show this to someone who can fix can fix So I hope, there is someone who can fix :) Next time, try to make a small example (i lack the time to zoom in to the smallest problem). Taco, Can this be a bug in mplib? Looks that way, yes. Investigating right now. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] userpagenumber
On 03/26/2013 06:07 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 1. \setuppagenumber is a synonym for \setupuserpagenumber 2. The “number=XX” setting doesn’t work in MkIV and you have to use \setupcounter. Thank you for your words of wisdom, Wolfgang. Wouldn't it make sense to have backwards compatibility? Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setuphead [bodypartlabel=]
Hi Wolfgang, nice feature. However when applying it, the numbering of the chapters is not correct. - See attached minimal example Willi \starttext \completecontent \startchapter[title=Chapter in list] \stopchapter \startchapter[title=Chapter not in list, saveinlist=no] \stopchapter \startchapter[title=Chapter in list] \stopchapter \stoptext On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 26.03.2013 um 19:54 schrieb Alan BRASLAU alan.bras...@cea.fr: All of this does not take care of handling NOchapter in marking, bookmarks, contents, etc. Consider: \setupheadertexts [chapter] \placebookmarks [chapter,section] [chapter] \definecombinedlist [content] [chapter,section,subsection] TOC entries can be suppressed with “saveinlist=no”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] userpagenumber
On 3/27/2013 9:21 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On 03/26/2013 06:07 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 1. \setuppagenumber is a synonym for \setupuserpagenumber 2. The “number=XX” setting doesn’t work in MkIV and you have to use \setupcounter. Thank you for your words of wisdom, Wolfgang. Wouldn't it make sense to have backwards compatibility? yes and no .. the original setup commands date from the time (previous century) that there were less such commands so we ended up with combining features in one command that should have been split. The same is true for footnotes, where we now split in the note handler itself and the rendering (in fact, setting up doublesided should be in setuplayout but i'll keep that one) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] userpagenumber
On 2013–03–27 Hans Hagen wrote: (in fact, setting up doublesided should be in setuplayout but i'll keep that one) Perhaps both locations could be supported for some time. \setuppagenumbering is indeed an awkward place to set up the layout. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mptopdf problem: he is broken and asking for fix
On 03/27/2013 09:17 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: On 03/26/2013 11:13 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: On 3/26/2013 10:07 PM, Martin Bruchanov wrote: Hi, ! This can't happen (degenerate spec). So I hope, there is someone who can fix :) Can this be a bug in mplib? Looks that way, yes. Investigating right now. Found, should be fixed in the next release. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new manual
Hi, I uploaded a work-in-progress manual: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] userpagenumber
On 3/27/2013 12:09 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: On 2013–03–27 Hans Hagen wrote: (in fact, setting up doublesided should be in setuplayout but i'll keep that one) Perhaps both locations could be supported for some time. \setuppagenumbering is indeed an awkward place to set up the layout. maybe after the current is made (which happens sometime within the next two weeks) best make sure that we have no serious bugs (experimental features apart) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
Hi Hans,
maybe after the current is made (which happens sometime within the
next two weeks)
best make sure that we have no serious bugs (experimental features apart)
I think it's better to start a new thread for this issue.
I maintain a small list of bugs and quirks which I would like to
share. I don't know if the issues are considered bugs or not. I
posted most of them to the mailing list at some point, but AFAIK
they have not been fixed for whatever reason. Usually there are
simple workarounds or I have some code which fixes the issue. Others
are still unresolved. Act upon as you see fit.
%
%% Wrong spacing in \unit when no number is given
\starttext
\starttabulate
\NC wrong spacing \EQ (\unit{micro mol}) \NC\NR
\NC spacing OK\EQ (µmol) \NC\NR
\NC spacing OK\EQ (3\,µmol)\NC\NR
\NC spacing OK\EQ (3 \unit{micro mol}) \NC\NR
\NC spacing OK\EQ (\unit{3 micro mol}) \NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
%
%% Newline after \placelegend fails
\starttext
\startplacelegend
\startcontent
Foo
\stopcontent
\startcaption
Bar
\stopcaption
\stopplacelegend
\stoptext
%
%% way setting does not work in \setupcaptions
%% The way setting cannot be applied globally to all floats using
%% \setupcaptions. For the prefix value it works.
\setupblackrules
[width=4cm, height=1cm]
%% prefix is applied, way is not
\setupcaptions
[prefix=no,
way=bytext]
%% prefix and way are applied
%% \setupcaption
%% [figure, table]
%% [prefix=no,
%%way=bytext]
\starttext
\dorecurse{2}{%
\startchapter [title=Chapter]
\dorecurse{2}{%
\startplacefigure
\blackrule
\stopplacefigure
\startplacetable
\blackrule
\stopplacetable}
\stopchapter}
\stoptext
%
%% Wide descriptions protruding into the margin
\definedescription
[description]
[alternative=hanging,
width=broad]
\starttext
\startdescription{conclusion that}
\input knuth
\stopdescription
\startdescription{conclusion that the designer of a new system must not only be
literally}
\input knuth
\stopdescription
\stoptext
%
%% interaction mode focus=current does not work for footnotes and floats
\setupinteraction
[state=start,focus=standard]
\starttext
\in{figure}[foo]
\startplacefigure [reference=foo]
\stopplacefigure
\stoptext
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%% the \stop… line of database module environment must not be indented,
%% spurious line otherwise
\usemodule [database]
\defineseparatedlist
[CSV]
[before=\bTABLE, after=\eTABLE,
first=\bTR, last=\eTR,
left=\bTD, right=\eTD]
\starttext
%% indentation with spaces works
\startCSV
alpha, 10
beta, 20
gamma, 30
\stopCSV
%% indentation with tabs produces spurious extra line
\startCSV
alpha, 10
beta, 20
gamma, 30
\stopCSV
%% some weird indentation works, but looks awkward
\startplacetable
\startCSV
alpha, 10
beta, 20
gamma, 30
\stopCSV
\stopplacetable
\stoptext
%
%% MetaPost Location throws error
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
%% works
%% fill Field[Header][Text];
%% error
fill Area[Header][Text] shifted Location[Header][Text];
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\useMPgraphic{foo}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] new manual
Hi,
Le 27/03/2013 13:38, Hans Hagen a écrit :
I uploaded a work-in-progress manual:
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf
There seems to be a problem with the typesetting of primes (on page 104)
regarding multiple primes, more exactly regarding \utfchar{0x...}
Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
On 3/27/2013 7:55 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: Hi Hans, maybe after the current is made (which happens sometime within the next two weeks) best make sure that we have no serious bugs (experimental features apart) I think it's better to start a new thread for this issue. I maintain a small list of bugs and quirks which I would like to share. I don't know if the issues are considered bugs or not. I posted most of them to the mailing list at some point, but AFAIK they have not been fixed for whatever reason. Usually there are simple workarounds or I have some code which fixes the issue. Others are still unresolved. Act upon as you see fit. well, if something really crashes due to some 'programming' error it's indeed a bug (i tend to add such tests then to the test suite so that it gets checked) other cases depend a bit on how complex it is to deal with it given the tex language, take this one: % %% Newline after \placelegend fails \starttext \startplacelegend \startcontent Foo \stopcontent \startcaption Bar \stopcaption \stopplacelegend \stoptext If you want that, you also want \starttext \startplacelegend \startcontent Foo Bar \stopcontent \startcaption Bar Foo \stopcaption \stopplacelegend \stoptext That's actually a side effect of how such a mechanism is implemented but in this case it can be catched (at the cost of a bit less efficiency). The problem then is that after a while one wonders why the particular lines of code were there. (you can test / look into the zip on the ftp server) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new manual
Dnia 2013-03-27, o godz. 13:38:50 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl napisał(a): Hi, I uploaded a work-in-progress manual: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf I have to say that I am *very* impressed. 1. Aesthetically, this seems to be the most beautiful of ConTeXt manuals. 2. I've only read half a page, but the style also seems to be very nice - the introduction was just great. 3. From the number of pages and the table of contents I assume that I'll be able to learn a lot about fonts from this - and that's great! Now the file has been sent to my Kindle, and the only thing I'm afraid of is the reading experience on 6... Hans, I know that you don't like (today's) ebook readers, but what about preparing a version with larger fonts/smaller margins for us Kindle users? Given the typographical quality of most Kindle ebooks, you may assume that when we read on a Kindle, we don't care too much about aesthetics (which, btw, is incomprehensible for me: the technology to typeset text automatically in an (at least) decent way (including hyphenation) has been around for some 30 years, and yet they didn't manage to do it right...), so you might just change a few things in \setuplayout etc. and throw it into the net... Hans Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
On 3/27/2013 7:55 PM, Marco Patzer wrote: % %% the \stop… line of database module environment must not be indented, %% spurious line otherwise \usemodule [database] \defineseparatedlist [CSV] [before=\bTABLE, after=\eTABLE, first=\bTR, last=\eTR, left=\bTD, right=\eTD] \starttext %% indentation with spaces works \startCSV alpha, 10 beta, 20 gamma, 30 \stopCSV %% indentation with tabs produces spurious extra line \startCSV alpha, 10 beta, 20 gamma, 30 \stopCSV %% some weird indentation works, but looks awkward \startplacetable \startCSV alpha, 10 beta, 20 gamma, 30 \stopCSV \stopplacetable \stoptext tricky given the meaning of spaces ... I've sent you something to test (keep in mind that in these example there are leading spaces but they happen to be gobbled by tex; the new strip option wil front/back strip spaces) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
On 3/27/2013 7:55 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
I maintain a small list of bugs and quirks which I would like to
share. I don't know if the issues are considered bugs or not. I
%
%% MetaPost Location throws error
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
%% works
%% fill Field[Header][Text];
%% error
fill Area[Header][Text] shifted Location[Header][Text];
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\useMPgraphic{foo}
\stoptext
ok, that's a real bug, it should be
pair Location[][] ; % second [] was lost
in mp-page.mpiv
the initialization of those variables was made delayed when i found out
that mp needed 4 seconds instead of 1 on a manual; in th emeantime
mp's mem management has been improved much but i'll keep the delayed
code as it's more efficient anyway - but also a bit more complex
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] new manual
On 3/27/2013 9:15 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Now the file has been sent to my Kindle, and the only thing I'm afraid of is the reading experience on 6... Hans, I know that you don't like (today's) ebook readers, but what about preparing a version with larger fonts/smaller margins for us Kindle users? Given the typographical quality of most Kindle ebooks, you may assume that when we read on a Kindle, we don't care too much about aesthetics (which, btw, is incomprehensible for me: the technology to typeset text automatically in an (at least) decent way (including hyphenation) has been around for some 30 years, and yet they didn't manage to do it right...), so you might just change a few things in \setuplayout etc. and throw it into the net... i fear that the resolution is not good enough for the examples ... we would need real narrow tt and very small examples (i did consider an electronic version but lack time now) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
On 3/27/2013 7:55 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
%% Wide descriptions protruding into the margin
\definedescription
[description]
[alternative=hanging,
width=broad]
\starttext
\startdescription{conclusion that}
\input knuth
\stopdescription
\startdescription{conclusion that the designer of a new system must not only be
literally}
\input knuth
\stopdescription
\stoptext
A potentially incompatible change ... upto you and wolfgang to check it
\unprotect
\startsetups[\??constructionrenderings:\v!hanging]
% tricky: leftskipadaption is somewhat unpredictable
\let\\=\crlf
\noindent
\advance\leftskip-\leftskipadaption\relax
\ifdim\leftskipadaption=\zeropoint
\leftskipadaption1.5\emwidth\relax % just some default
\ifnum\c_strc_constructions_nested_state=\plusone
\ifdim\leftskip\zeropoint \relax
\leftskipadaption\leftskip
\fi
\fi
\fi
\ifnum\c_strc_constructions_nested_state\zerocount % was
\ifnum\c_strc_constructions_nested_state=\plusone
\advance\leftskip\leftskipadaption % but we're already further on
\fi
\hskip-\leftskipadaption\relax
\ifhbox\constructionheadbox \unhbox\else\box\fi\constructionheadbox
\ifconditional\c_strc_constructions_distance_none \else
% we used to have just a kern, but long lines look bad then
\scratchdistance\ifdim\constructionsheaddistance=\zeropoint
.75\emwidth\else\constructionsheaddistance\fi
\hskip \scratchdistance
\s!plus .25\scratchdistance
\s!minus.25\scratchdistance
\fi
\allowbreak % new
\useconstructionstyleandcolor\c!style\c!color
\ignorespaces
\stopsetups
\protect
\definedescription
[description]
[alternative=hanging,
width=broad]
\starttext
\dorecurse{15}{
\startdescription{\dorecurse{#1}{test }}
\input knuth
\stopdescription
}
\stoptext
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] List of bugs and quirks
On 2013–03–27 Hans Hagen wrote: A potentially incompatible change It's already the second time you warn me about this. Should I be concerned? ... upto you and wolfgang to check it Actually I used a patched version for months in several projects without issues. I replaced the kern with an hskip. That said, it's unlikely that *I* will run into issues. And I'm curious about an example where this fails and yields unacceptable results (like the unpatched version does). Thanks Hans for taking the time to look into that. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new manual
On 3/27/2013 8:54 PM, Mikael Morin wrote:
Hi,
Le 27/03/2013 13:38, Hans Hagen a écrit :
I uploaded a work-in-progress manual:
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/fonts-mkiv.pdf
There seems to be a problem with the typesetting of primes (on page 104)
regarding multiple primes, more exactly regarding \utfchar{0x...}
fixed in next upload ... somehow spacing is suboptimal in xits (it looks
better in cambria, lm and pagella)
Hns
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