Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:24:50 +0200
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
you use the wrong command and there is also the scope parameter
\setupnotes[footnote][split=verystrict,scope=page]
Can you clarify this? The syntax is confusing, probably because it has
evolved.
Currently, I use:
\setupnotation [footnote] [way=bypage,numberconversion=set 2]
for example, but maybe this is no longer the recommended syntax?
Also, in order to restore gobbled space following,%
\startfootnote
\stopfootnote
I use the following setup:
\setupnote [footnote] [next={ }]
So \setupnotation, \setupnote, \setupnotes is confusing.
Of course, there is
strc-not.mkvi:\let\setupnotes\setupnote
so \setupnotes is just a synonym for \setupnote.
And then there is also:
strc-not.mkvi:\let\setupnotations\setupnotation
From what I understand, footnotes can be handled using different
mechanisms, and this is why it gets confusing for users.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
On 2013–07–24 Alan BRASLAU wrote: From what I understand, footnotes can be handled using different mechanisms, and this is why it gets confusing for users. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Unexpected_behavior#Footnotes:_The_Difference_between_.5Csetupnotation_and_.5Csetupnote Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] No indentation after macro
I have defined the following macro:
\def\Qur[#1][#2][#3][#4]{\placeongrid{\blank[4pt]\testpage[4]
\setupindenting[no]
\startalignment[right]\setupalign[r2l]\setupinterlinespace[line=3.7ex]\amiri
#1 \stopalignment
\blank[4pt]
{\bf #2} \wordright{\tfx (Heiliger Qur'an #3:#4)}
\blank[3pt]}
}
How can I setup, that paragraphs after this above block will not be
indented?
Thanks!
Huseyin
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Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Unexpected_behavior#Footnotes:_The_Difference_between_.5Csetupnotation_and_.5Csetupnote I wasn't aware of this page - thanks a lot, this is VERY useful! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
Thanks to all for drawing my attention to the wiki page on \setupnotation vs \setupnote and thanks to Hans for introducing the scope key. In the original example, only scope=page gets the footnote calls and the footnotes on the same page. So what is the difference between the split and scope keys and what does scope=text do? Alan On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Schmitz Thomas A. thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Unexpected_behavior#Footnotes:_The_Difference_between_.5Csetupnotation_and_.5Csetupnote I wasn't aware of this page - thanks a lot, this is VERY useful! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
On 7/24/2013 1:34 PM, Alan Bowen wrote: Thanks to all for drawing my attention to the wiki page on \setupnotation vs \setupnote and thanks to Hans for introducing the scope key. not so much introducing ... the key was already there In the original example, only scope=page gets the footnote calls and the footnotes on the same page. So what is the difference between the split and scope keys and what does scope=text do? being even more strict (using different control mechanism) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] footnotes on wrong page
On 7/24/2013 12:23 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. wrote: On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com wrote: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Unexpected_behavior#Footnotes:_The_Difference_between_.5Csetupnotation_and_.5Csetupnote I wasn't aware of this page - thanks a lot, this is VERY useful! a nice page indeed! - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] No indentation after macro
Am 24.07.2013 um 12:23 schrieb H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de:
I have defined the following macro:
\def\Qur[#1][#2][#3][#4]{\placeongrid{\blank[4pt]\testpage[4]
\setupindenting[no]
\startalignment[right]\setupalign[r2l]\setupinterlinespace[line=3.7ex]\amiri
#1 \stopalignment
\blank[4pt]
{\bf #2} \wordright{\tfx (Heiliger Qur'an #3:#4)}
\blank[3pt]}
}
How can I setup, that paragraphs after this above block will not be indented?
You can add \noindentation at the end of your code. You can also use the
annotation
environment to create a new command for your text where you can set text with
keys.
\usemodule[annotation]
\defineannotation
[Qur]
[alternative=Qur,
spacebefore=3pt,
paragraph=yes,
align=r2l,
%before={\testpage[4]},
indentnext=no,
%style=amari,
interlinespace=3.7ex]
\defineannotationalternative[Qur][renderingsetup=annotation:Qur,alternative=vertical]
\startsetups[annotation:Qur]
\currentannotationcontent
\blank[4pt]
{\bf\annotationparameter{one}}\wordright{\tfx (Heiliger Qur'an
\annotationparameter{two}:\annotationparameter{three})}
\stopsetups
\setupindenting[yes,medium]
\starttext
\input knuth
\startQur[one=A,two=B,three=C]
\input knuth
\stopQur
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Opening quotes problem with context.
john Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com writes:
Did a fresh install of context etc. from the context site. I used this
test file:
---
\starttext
``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.''
\stoptext
%\bye
-
The resulting pdf shows two left tick marks for opening quotes but the
closing quotes are proper curly quotes.
If I modify the file as follows:
---
%\starttext
``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.''
%\stoptext
\bye
---
and use luatex or pdftex from texlive the quotes are OK.
I got similar results from context in texlive 2012 and texlive 2013.
What is the proper code for opening quotes in context?
The truly proper code is \quotation{Hello world.} - that style is
guaranteed to work. (And, for instance, if you change context's language
to French, then \quotation{Bonjour monde.} will automatically give you
the correct style of French quotation marks without having to look up
how to type them; likewise for other languages.)
I think the problem of the two left tick marks may come from web browser
copy-and-paste. Special marks, especially the quotation marks,
apostrophes, and tick marks, are often mangled when converting to and
from HTML. When copying any program's code from a web page, watch out
for those marks, they've probably been mis-transcribed by the too-clever
HTML rendering.
--
David R
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Re: [NTG-context] Opening quotes problem with context.
Am 24.07.2013 um 16:58 schrieb David Rogers davidandrewrog...@gmail.com:
john Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com writes:
Did a fresh install of context etc. from the context site. I used this
test file:
---
\starttext
``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.''
\stoptext
%\bye
-
The resulting pdf shows two left tick marks for opening quotes but the
closing quotes are proper curly quotes.
If I modify the file as follows:
---
%\starttext
``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.''
%\stoptext
\bye
---
and use luatex or pdftex from texlive the quotes are OK.
I got similar results from context in texlive 2012 and texlive 2013.
What is the proper code for opening quotes in context?
The truly proper code is \quotation{Hello world.} - that style is
guaranteed to work. (And, for instance, if you change context's language
to French, then \quotation{Bonjour monde.} will automatically give you
the correct style of French quotation marks without having to look up
how to type them; likewise for other languages.)
There is nothing wrong by using „ “ ” « » etc. for quotations. When you
use \quotation etc. you don’t have to bother about the correct marks
for your language (you can also change them) but the code is easier to
read when you use the real signs.
I think the problem of the two left tick marks may come from web browser
copy-and-paste. Special marks, especially the quotation marks,
apostrophes, and tick marks, are often mangled when converting to and
from HTML. When copying any program's code from a web page, watch out
for those marks, they've probably been mis-transcribed by the too-clever
HTML rendering.
What John wrote is valid in plain TeX where fonts replaced `` and ''
with the proper characters in MkIV this feature was dropped because
you can use \quotation or write the characters in your text.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
Thanks, Marco. That seems to work with final hyphens.
Why this does not work instead?: \setpenalties\brokenpenalties{1}{1}
I have tried both, but your solution works better.
Andrés Conrado Montoya
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Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
Am 24.07.2013 um 20:22 schrieb Andres Conrado Montoya andresconr...@gmail.com:
Thanks, Marco. That seems to work with final hyphens.
Why this does not work instead?: \setpenalties\brokenpenalties{1}{1}
I have tried both, but your solution works better.
How about a example for us!
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
On 2013–07–24 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
How about a example for us!
\starttext
%% \brokenpenalty1\relax
\setpenalties\brokenpenalties{1}{1}
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth}
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod
tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. At
vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod
tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua.
Atvero eosetaccusam etjustoduodolores etearebum.
Stetclita kasdgubergren, noseatakimatasanctusest.
\stoptext
Apparently \brokenpenalty is not supposed to be used with
\setpenalties, see spac-ver.mkiv :
\setpenalties\widowpenalties\plustwo\maxdimen
\setpenalties\clubpenalties \plustwo\maxdimen
\brokenpenalty \maxdimen
Actually I don't yet know what's the deal with the \setpenalties
command and why it's used for some penalties and not for others.
Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
Am 24.07.2013 um 20:54 schrieb Marco Patzer home...@lavabit.com: Apparently \brokenpenalty is not supposed to be used with \setpenalties, see spac-ver.mkiv : \setpenalties\widowpenalties\plustwo\maxdimen \setpenalties\clubpenalties \plustwo\maxdimen \brokenpenalty \maxdimen Actually I don't yet know what's the deal with the \setpenalties command and why it's used for some penalties and not for others. You have to differ between the \…penalty command which come from Knuths TeX and \…penalties which are introduced with etex. While Knuths command accept only a single value (e.g. \widowpenlty=1000) the new commands accepts multiple values which are taken for individual lines of a paragraph (e.g. \widowpenalties 3 3000 4500 9000). The \setpenalties command simplifies the setups of the new commands. The reason why \widowpenalties doesn’t work with \setpenalties is that no command with this names exist (I never checked this for my example in the past). A penalties command wouldn’t even make sense because the penalty prevents only the page break after a hyphen. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
On 2013–07–24 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Apparently \brokenpenalty is not supposed to be used with \setpenalties, see spac-ver.mkiv : \setpenalties\widowpenalties\plustwo\maxdimen \setpenalties\clubpenalties \plustwo\maxdimen \brokenpenalty \maxdimen Actually I don't yet know what's the deal with the \setpenalties command and why it's used for some penalties and not for others. You have to differ between the \…penalty command which come from Knuths TeX and \…penalties which are introduced with etex. While Knuths command accept only a single value (e.g. \widowpenlty=1000) the new commands accepts multiple values which are taken for individual lines of a paragraph (e.g. \widowpenalties 3 3000 4500 9000). I learned something new today. The \setpenalties command simplifies the setups of the new commands. Combined with the aforementioned new knowledge, this totally makes sense. The reason why \widowpenalties doesn’t work with \setpenalties is that no command with this names exist (I never checked this for my example in the past). I couldn't find the definition neither in the TeXbook, nor the ConTeXt sources. That's why. Thanks for the explanation. Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] About Hyphenation
So, it seems that this configuration worked (more or less), to avoid:
Widows, Orphans, 3 or more consecutive hyphens, and final hyphens.
\startsetups[grid][correcto]
\setups[*reset]
\setpenalties\widowpenalties{1}{1}
\setpenalties\clubpenalties{1}{1}
\stopsetups
\doublehyphendemerits=3
\finalhyphendemerits=3
\adjdemerits=1
\brokenpenalty1\relax
Thank you all for your time.
Andrés Conrado Montoya
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