Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta (2017.08.02 18:59)

2017-08-03 Thread Hans Hagen 

On 8/3/2017 7:49 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 08/03/2017 07:13 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:

On 08/02/2017 11:08 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

ok i uploaded a new beta (but with some experimental font stuff so who
knows what happens now)


I’m afraid I get a new crash with the same source (the log contains it):
[...]
lua error   > lua error on line 1 in file tex-bug.tex:

...eta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/node-nut.lua:965: You
cannot set field glue_sign in a node of type glue_spec
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'setfield'
...eta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/node-nut.lua:965: in
function 'setboxglue'
...eta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/pack-rul.lua:131: in
function <...eta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/pack-rul.lua:64>

1 >>  \setupnote[footnote]
2 [align={hanging}]


Hans,

since it seems you don’t reproduce the bug, I wonder whether this might
be caused by Linux 32bit luatex binaries being version 1.0.5 and Windows
64bt has version 1.0.6.x.
no, it's more that i always have a newer luatex so older stuff has to be 
simulated


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Cambria official typescript (mis)behavior

2017-08-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm 
Am 2017-08-02 um 23:46 schrieb Aditya Mahajan :

> I occasionally experience a similar issue (after an update wrong fontface is 
> used, especially with math fonts) and reloading the fonts database with 
> --force always fixes the issue for me. So, I have never bothered to 
> investigate why the issue comes up in the first place.

Hm, is the general problem with ttc fonts fixed? Some leftover of that?


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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

2017-08-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange 
Hi Pablo,

Dealing with the sample you has given to Mikael I find a difficulty on page 2 : 
if you replace 'Foo' and 'Bar' (three letters), by 'Introduction' and 
'section', see what happen to 'section', page 2.

Here is your MWE :


 \showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]

\defineheadalternative
[margintext:chapter]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:chapter]

\definemargindata[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]

\defineheadalternative
[margintext:section]
[margintext]
[margintext=margintext:section]

\setuphead[chapter]
[alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
\setuphead[section]
[alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]

\starttext

\chapter{Introduction}
\dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}

\stoptext

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De: "Mikael P. Sundqvist" 
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Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Août 2017 22:33:16
Objet: Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:
> Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :
>
>> I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.
>>
>> I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in
>> the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it
>> for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.
>
> I guess this is a case for setups.
>
> \startsetups[chapterpage]
> \setupheadertexts[][][][]
> \stopsetups
>
> \setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]
>
> Something like this, I didn’t check.
>
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Thank you for your answer, Henning.

I am sorry, but it does not work. The problem is that I don't have the
marking text in the header, but in overlays in the margins. I tried to
replace your

\setupheadertexts[][][][]

inside the setup with

\setupbackgrounds[text][rightmargin][background=]

but with no luck. But maybe you are right that one should use setups.

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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

2017-08-03 Thread Hans Hagen 

On 8/3/2017 10:35 AM, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote:

Hi Pablo,

Dealing with the sample you has given to Mikael I find a difficulty on page 2 : 
if you replace 'Foo' and 'Bar' (three letters), by 'Introduction' and 
'section', see what happen to 'section', page 2.

Here is your MWE :


  \showframe
 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

 \definemargindata[margintext:chapter]
 [margintext]
 [width=\rightmarginwidth, location=outer, align=flushleft]

 \defineheadalternative
 [margintext:chapter]
 [margintext]
 [margintext=margintext:chapter]

 \definemargindata[margintext:section]
 [margintext]
 [width=\leftmarginwidth, location=inner]

 \defineheadalternative
 [margintext:section]
 [margintext]
 [margintext=margintext:section]

 \setuphead[chapter]
 [alternative=margintext:chapter, style=\tf, number=no]
 \setuphead[section]
 [alternative=margintext, style=\tf, number=no]

 \starttext

 \chapter{Introduction}
 \dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}

 \stoptext

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De: "Mikael P. Sundqvist" 
À: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" 
Envoyé: Mercredi 2 Août 2017 22:33:16
Objet: Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm  wrote:

Am 2017-08-02 um 19:28 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist :


I do not want to change the output of the chapters/sections themself.

I want to have a "running header", but in the margin rather than in
the header. I get that with the code I gave, but I want to disable it
for new chapters _on the page where the chapter begins_.


I guess this is a case for setups.

\startsetups[chapterpage]
\setupheadertexts[][][][]
\stopsetups

\setuphead[chapter][setup=chapterpage]

Something like this, I didn’t check.


\showframe

\setuplayout
  [backspace=3cm,
   margin=2cm,
   width=middle]

\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided]

\definemargindata
  [margintext:chapter]
  [margintext]
  [width=\outermarginwidth,
   location=outer,
   align=flushouter]

\defineheadalternative
  [margintext:chapter]
  [margintext]
  [margintext=margintext:chapter]

\definemargindata[margintext:section]
  [margintext]
  [width=\innermarginwidth,
   location=inner,
   align=flushinner]

\defineheadalternative
  [margintext:section]
  [margintext]
  [margintext=margintext:section]

\setuphead
  [chapter]
  [alternative=margintext:chapter,
   style=\tf,
   number=no]

\setuphead
  [section]
  [alternative=margintext,
   style=\tf,
   number=no]

\starttext

\chapter{Introduction}

\dorecurse{15}{\section{Section}\input ward\par}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

2017-08-03 Thread Pablo Rodriguez 
On 08/03/2017 06:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> [...]
> \definemargindata
>[margintext:chapter]
>[margintext]
>[width=\outermarginwidth,
> location=outer,
> align=flushouter]
> [...]
> \definemargindata[margintext:section]
>[margintext]
>[width=\innermarginwidth,
> location=inner,
> align=flushinner]

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

I didn’t know that these margin widths and aligments even existed.

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Re: [NTG-context] TwoColumns in two different languages, with alternate text on even and odd page.

2017-08-03 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange 
Hi again Marcello,

I was somehow busy and forgot that I made a promise to give you a better answer 
than I did about bilingual texts on two columns. If you need only to print some 
simple texts on two columns, there is no major issues. Problems occur when you 
want to print two texts in different languages, with a complex criticus 
apparatus.

But I've forgotten that (when I first began to work with ConTeXt, under the 
Pablo Rodriguez's eye), I was looking for a mechanism which allow to print 
greek/latin original text on the left column with a translation within the 
right column and a few series of footnotes in the footer. Notes dealing with 
the original text and different notes for the translation, given that if the 
original text was on the even page (left), a commentary might be print on the 
right page. The situation is clear : an even page with original language and 
translation (on two separate columns), and criticus apparatus in  the footer; 
an odd page which contains some material like a commentary. It is without 
saying that the translation has to follow the original text line by line, not 
in a strictly way, but almost, when the odd page may be much more flexible. I 
know there are some technical ways under LaTeX (Maieul Rouquette made some work 
on that), and with non-free software but I had forgotten that Wolfgang made a 
simple proposal with the Stream mechanism. I have to work on that, but I am 
currently working on other jobs.

See what Wolfgang wrote in the end of 2016 here on the wiki : 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Streams

There are two non-free softwares, just as CET (Critical Edition Typesetter) : 
http://karas.ch/cet/cetinfo.htm

or Classical Text Editor :
http://cte.oeaw.ac.at/

JP


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Envoyé: Jeudi 27 Juillet 2017 12:11:05
Objet: Re: [NTG-context] TwoColumns in two different languages, with alternate 
text on even and odd page.

Hi Marcello,

As you say "this feature could be really interesting", but as far as I know, 
there are many issues to deal with, in order to print 2 columns on the same 
page with different languages (say : greek and latin). This is not only because 
of two languages (say : english and russian, or greek and german), but because 
such work needs some editing datas, like footnotes, or more complex type of 
single line footnotes. I'll give some samples in a few hours. I've written once 
to Maieul Rouquette (author of (xe)LaTeX and in charge or reledpar 
(http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/mirrors/ctan/macros/latex/contrib/reledmac/reledpar.pdf)
 and reledmac 
(ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/reledmac/reledmac.pdf) 
LaTeX packages for asking him about complex "criticus apparatus" in edition 
issues for Classics. Pablo Rodriguez has a better knowledfge as me on these 
topics. 
In fact, there is currently no strictly satisfying way to deal with different 
texts with ConTeXt on even and odd page (or on the same page with two columns), 
except if there is no need of footnotes (or criticus apparatus), because some 
mismatches between texts with the second page. But, there is possibly some 
solutions with XML and CTX (which I didn't try) ?

JP



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Objet: Re: [NTG-context] TwoColumns in two different languages, with alternate 
text on even and odd page.


Dear Hans, 
I am also intersted in this issue. 
In the last years I am dealing with a multi-language technical lexicon. 
Hence, different languages refer to different columns, and if the languages are 
three or four, then it is better to go with two pages side-by-side. 
Nevertheless this seems a problem also in LaTeX redelpar (multiple columns are 
not supported). 
I tried to manage it with \linetable but without success ( 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/380923/synchronise-data-spanning-over-two-side-by-side-pages-in-context
 ) 
I think this feature could be really interesting because, according to my 
knowledge, ConTeXt is at present the best way to manage the publishing of XML 
data. 
Hence, this could be a useful tool to publish large sets of data. 
Thank you in advance 







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Re: [NTG-context] Disable overlay on chapter pages

2017-08-03 Thread Mikael P. Sundqvist 
On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Pablo Rodriguez  wrote:
> On 08/03/2017 06:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> [...]
>> \definemargindata
>>[margintext:chapter]
>>[margintext]
>>[width=\outermarginwidth,
>> location=outer,
>> align=flushouter]
>> [...]
>> \definemargindata[margintext:section]
>>[margintext]
>>[width=\innermarginwidth,
>> location=inner,
>> align=flushinner]
>
> Many thanks for your reply, Hans.
>
> I didn’t know that these margin widths and aligments even existed.
>
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Hi,

that solves the other problem that appeared. What about the one I
originally posted in this thread? Is it possible to pause backgrounds
on chapter pages?

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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest beta (2017.08.02 18:59)

2017-08-03 Thread Pablo Rodriguez 
On 08/03/2017 08:50 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 8/3/2017 7:49 AM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> since it seems you don’t reproduce the bug, I wonder whether this might
>> be caused by Linux 32bit luatex binaries being version 1.0.5 and Windows
>> 64bt has version 1.0.6.x.
> no, it's more that i always have a newer luatex so older stuff has to be 
> simulated

Many thanks for the explanation and for the fix, Hans.

Beta from 2017.08.03 11:02 works perfectly fine with the two texts I
checked.

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: [NTG-context] source code and result side by side

2017-08-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm 
Am 2017-07-31 um 03:26 schrieb Aditya Mahajan :

> You can't do that with buffers. If you need to define your own macros that 
> behave like buffers, you need to use \grabbufferdata (see buff-ini.mkiv). But 
> in this case, there is a simpler solution:

Thank you very much, I can work with that.

A related question:
How can I use commands like \chapter{} in an example without affecting my main 
structure?

I’d like to show a few examples für head setups.


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Re: [NTG-context] source code and result side by side

2017-08-03 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm 
Am 2017-07-31 um 03:26 schrieb Aditya Mahajan :

> You can't do that with buffers. If you need to define your own macros that 
> behave like buffers, you need to use \grabbufferdata (see buff-ini.mkiv). But 
> in this case, there is a simpler solution:
> 
> \defineframed
>  [CodeExampleFramed]
>  [
>frame=off,
>width=0.5\textwidth,
>align=normal,
>  ]
> 
> \definebuffer
>[CodeExample]
> 
> \define\stopCodeExample
>{\placesidebyside
>   {\CodeExampleFramed{\typeCodeExample}}
>   {\CodeExampleFramed{\getCodeExample}}}

Oh, I overlooked something:
Can I get pretty printing back, like in \startTEX ... \stopTEX?

I couldn’t find any suitable setup options.

This doesn’t work:
\setupbuffer[CodeExampleB][before={\startTEX},after={\stopTEX}]


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[NTG-context] methods for numbered paragraphs

2017-08-03 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 

Dear syndicate,

Not sure if there is a canonical way to do numbered paragraphs. In the
following, I use subsections to mimic numbered paragraphs:

===section-intext.tex===
\setuphead[section][style=\bfa,after={\blank[big]},before={\blank[big,medium]},color=walayahblue]
\setuphead[subsection][style=\bf,after={\blank[big]},before={\blank[big,medium]},color=walayahgreen,alternative=text,distance=0.28em]
\setuphead[subsubsection][style=\tf,after={\blank[big]},before={\blank[big,medium]},color=walayahred,alternative=text,distance=0.28em]

\starttext
\startsection[title=Section 1]
\startsubsection
\input ward
\stopsubsection

\startsubsection[title=Paragraph 2]
\input ward
\stopsubsection

\startsubsection
\startparagraph
\input ward
\stopparagraph
\stopsubsection
\stopsection
\stoptext
==

See attached output.

In paragraphs 1 and 2, there is too much distance between the subsection
number (subsection number + title in paragraph 2) and between the text.
The distance parameter is not appropriate here, it is the distance *after*
the section head that needs adjustment (even if the text portion of the
head (i.e., the section title) is empty).

Question 1: How do we fix the post-head distance?

Paragraph three shows that one apparently cannot mix this sectioning
approach with the \start-stopparagraph mechanism.

Question 2: Is there a way to mix \start-stopparagraph with the above
subsection approach to par numbering?

I suppose that as long as I maintain exactly one paragraph per subsection,
then structured output  (xml etc.) should look ok.

Question 3: Is there a wiser way to handle this kind of par numbering in
mkiv?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [NTG-context] Cambria official typescript (mis)behavior

2017-08-03 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 
On Thu, 03 Aug 2017 01:41:42 -0600, Henning Hraban Ramm   
wrote:



Am 2017-08-02 um 23:46 schrieb Aditya Mahajan :

I occasionally experience a similar issue (after an update wrong  
fontface is used, especially with math fonts) and reloading the fonts  
database with --force always fixes the issue for me. So, I have never  
bothered to investigate why the issue comes up in the first place.


Hm, is the general problem with ttc fonts fixed? Some leftover of that?


In the current project, occasionally a change in layout will cause cambria  
regular to change to italic.


mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force

fixes it again, but I have not been able to isolate the issue to a simple  
test file. E.g., on one occasion commenting


% \showframe

turned the document italic, but then after reloading it turned regular  
again and I couldn't repeat the error. So there seems to be a bug  
somewhere, perhaps ttc-related indeed...


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