Re: [NTG-context] Questions about \starttext

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/3/2018 12:02 AM, John Culleton wrote:
A reasonable approach to a Context file includes preliminary information 
before the first printed page. My basic master file looks like this :

>
> ...

in the distribution there are a lot of manuals of which the setup 
demonstrates ways to organize ... one probably not known to all is


\startdocument[settings] ... \stopdocument

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Re: [NTG-context] define xml entity

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/3/2018 9:00 AM, dr. Hans van der Meer wrote:

How do I define an xml entity like ?
Is there an \xml-operation for defining an entity?
Such that I can say \xml{ABC}{an alphabet} for using  so that it 
produces “an alphabet”, for example.

You can find some in the test suite but it boils down to ...

\xmlsetentity{one}  {...}
\xmltexentity{sim}  {...}

or defining them in the preamble section of the xml file itself.

Entities are tricky. When they are used as abstraction you often want 
them roundtrip while otherwise you might want them expanded. YOu can 
have double escaped entities (which can result from import/export in 
half clever or inconsistent databases).  There's all kinds of control in 
context.


Another tricky thing is that because tex doesn't like # etc we need to 
have our own 'escapes' as well, so that runs in parallel of the 
subsystem that carries (unexpanded) entities around.


It's a conceptual mess deel down ... (well, you can read/understand lua 
so ...).


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[NTG-context] define xml entity

[dr. Hans van der Meer]

How do I define an xml entity like ? 
Is there an \xml-operation for defining an entity? 
Such that I can say \xml{ABC}{an alphabet} for using  so that it produces 
“an alphabet”, for example.

dr. Hans van der Meer


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Re: [NTG-context] entity substitution

[Wolfgang Schuster]

ConTeXt has a list of predefined entities like  which can be used 
without the use of \xmlsetentity.


Wolfgang

dr. Hans van der Meer 
3. April 2018 um 16:22
Does ConText always process DOCTYPE definitions? Because in the next 
example the defined XXX entity is substituted in one case but not in 
the other.


In a directory I have the following files:

doctype.tex =
\startxmlsetups demo:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{root}{demo:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{demo}{demo:setups}
\startxmlsetups demo:root
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[demo]

]>

See XXX; for .

\stopbuffer
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{demo}{demo}{}
\stoptext

Produces as output a subtituted entity


But

doctype-public.tex =
\startxmlsetups demo:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{root}{demo:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{demo}{demo:setups}
\startxmlsetups demo:root
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[demo]


See XXX; for .

\stopbuffer
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{demo}{demo}{}
\stoptext

namen.dtd =


The last two do not output a substituted entity. /Why is this not 
working? What I am doing wrong?/




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[NTG-context] entity substitution

[dr . Hans van der Meer]

Does ConText always process DOCTYPE definitions? Because in the next example 
the defined XXX entity is substituted in one case but not in the other.

In a directory I have the following files:

doctype.tex =
\startxmlsetups demo:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{root}{demo:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{demo}{demo:setups}
\startxmlsetups demo:root
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[demo]

]>

See XXX; for .

\stopbuffer
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{demo}{demo}{}
\stoptext

Produces as output a subtituted entity



But

doctype-public.tex = 
\startxmlsetups demo:setups
\xmlsetsetup{#1}{root}{demo:*}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{demo}{demo:setups}
\startxmlsetups demo:root
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startbuffer[demo]


See XXX; for .

\stopbuffer
\starttext
\xmlprocessbuffer{demo}{demo}{}
\stoptext

namen.dtd = 


The last two do not output a substituted entity. Why is this not working? What 
I am doing wrong?



dr. Hans van der Meer


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[NTG-context] margin of left/right floats

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hello again,

this should be a simple question, but I didn’t find anything (or probably 
didn’t look at the right places):

How can I setup/change the margin beside a float (image) that is placed left or 
right?

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Re: [NTG-context] margin of left/right floats

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/3/2018 6:56 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Hello again,

this should be a simple question, but I didn’t find anything (or probably 
didn’t look at the right places):

How can I setup/change the margin beside a float (image) that is placed left or 
right?

\setupfloats[margin=3cm]

\placefigure[left]{}{}

\input ward \input ward

\definefloat[myleft]

\setupfloat
  [myleft]
  [default=left,
   leftmargindistance=1cm]

\placefloat
  [myleft]{}{}

\input ward \input ward

\setupfloat
  [myleft]
  [default=left,
   margin=1cm,
   leftmargindistance=1cm]

\placefloat
  [myleft]{}{}

\input ward \input ward


for historical reasons margin is only set global but I'll change that to 
instance related too (so that the last example works without globally 
setting margin)


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[NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[Rik Kabel]

MWE from page 4 of mkiv-publications (same example found at in the 
Garden ) produces:


with an empty bibliography.

I get similar results with other documents that processed cleanly in the 
past.


Has the documentation (including the sample code) simply failed to keep 
up with recent changes?


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Re: [NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[Rik Kabel]

On 4/3/2018 15:49, Alan Braslau wrote:

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:52:49 -0400
Rik Kabel  wrote:


MWE from page 4 of mkiv-publications (same example found at in the
Garden ) produces:

with an empty bibliography.

I get similar results with other documents that processed cleanly in
the past.

Has the documentation (including the sample code) simply failed to
keep up with recent changes?


$CONTEXTROOT/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex

processes as intended using the latest Standalone.

Alan


Hmmm. Not here. Log attached. Puzzling lines:

└─► grep "^publications" publications-quick-example.log
publications    > adding bib data to set 'default' from source 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/mkiv-publications.bib'
publications    > duplicates > tag 'article' is present multiple times: 
default:1, assigning hashtag 'article-1'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'title' is ignored for 
tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'editor' is ignored for 
tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'author' is ignored for 
tag 'selfpublished' in dataset 'default'

publications    > error in database, invalid value 'selfpublished'
publications    > analyzing previous publication run for 'default'
publications    > no entry 'article,book' found in dataset 'default'
publications    > list > collecting entries using method 'global' and 
sort order 'default'


This is on W10P x64. I noticed a few update cycles ago that LuaTeX had 
reverted in the latest builds to 1.07.0 from 1.08.0. This is the first 
time I have gone back to btx stuff since then. Could it be related?


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resolvers   > trees > analyzing 'home:texmf'

open source > level 1, order 1, name 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2018.04.02 15:43 MKIV beta  fmt: 2018.4.3  int: 
english/english
system  > 
system  > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
open source > level 2, order 2, name 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
close source> level 2, order 2, name 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system  > files > jobname 'publications-quick-example', input 
'C:\\ConTeXt\\tex\\texmf-context\\doc\\context\\sources\\general\\manuals\\publications\\publications-quick-example',
 result 'publications-quick-example'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 2, order 3, name 
'C://ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex'
publications> adding bib data to set 'default' from source 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/mkiv-publications.bib'
publications> duplicates > tag 'article' is present multiple times: 
default:1, assigning hashtag 'article-1'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'title' is ignored for tag 
'book' in dataset 'default'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'editor' is ignored for tag 
'book' in dataset 'default'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'author' is ignored for tag 
'selfpublished' in dataset 'default'
publications> error in database, invalid value 'selfpublished'
fonts   > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts   > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
structures  > begin of sectionblock 'bodypart'
publications> analyzing previous publication run for 'default'
publications> no entry 'article,book' found in dataset 'default'
structures  > end of sectionblock 'bodypart'
backend > xmp > using file 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pdx.xml'
pages   > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
structures  > begin of sectionblock 'backpart'
structure   > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 0.1 -> Bibliography
publications> list > collecting entries using method 'global' and sort 
order 'default'
structures  > end of sectionblock 'backpart'
pages   > flushing realpage 2, userpage 2
close source> level 2, order 3, name 
'C://ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex'
close source> level 1, order 3, name 
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'

system  > start used files

system  > text: publications-quick-example

system  > stop used files


system  > start used files

system  >1: filename=char-prv.lua filetype=tex format=tex 
foundname=C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/char-prv.lua 

Re: [NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[Alan Braslau]

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:07:52 -0400
Rik Kabel  wrote:

> Hmmm. Not here. Log attached. Puzzling lines:
> 
> └─► grep "^publications" publications-quick-example.log
> publications    > adding bib data to set 'default' from source 
> 'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/mkiv-publications.bib'
> publications    > duplicates > tag 'article' is present multiple
> times: default:1, assigning hashtag 'article-1'
> publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'title' is ignored for 
> tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
> publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'editor' is ignored
> for tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
> publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'author' is ignored
> for tag 'selfpublished' in dataset 'default'
> publications    > error in database, invalid value 'selfpublished'
> publications    > analyzing previous publication run for 'default'
> publications    > no entry 'article,book' found in dataset 'default'
> publications    > list > collecting entries using method 'global' and 
> sort order 'default'
> 
> This is on W10P x64. I noticed a few update cycles ago that LuaTeX
> had reverted in the latest builds to 1.07.0 from 1.08.0. This is the
> first time I have gone back to btx stuff since then. Could it be
> related?

Nothing puzzling - these "duplicates" are contained in the .bib example
as a robustness test.

You are using Windows, which indeed has luatex 1.08 (which includes
lua 5.3). The rest of the world has 1.07 (and lua 5.2) while we await
TeXlive freeze.

However, I just tested using a freshly compiled luatex binary (still
1.07) and a freshly, freshly downloaded context, and reproduce empty
references and an empty bibliography (see attached). So, something is
indeed *broken*, and very recently (for I had updated my Standalone just
yesterday, I believe, which worked). Hans, please note.

Alan
open source > level 1, order 1, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system  > 
system  > ConTeXt  ver: 2018.04.03 22:22 MKIV beta  fmt: 2018.4.3  int: english/english
system  > 
system  > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
open source > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
close source> level 2, order 2, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system  > files > jobname 'publications-quick-example', input './publications-quick-example', result 'publications-quick-example'
fonts   > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages   > language 'en' is active
open source > level 2, order 3, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex'
publications> adding bib data to set 'default' from source 'mkiv-publications.bib'
publications> duplicates > tag 'article' is present multiple times: default:1, assigning hashtag 'article-1'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'title' is ignored for tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'editor' is ignored for tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications> duplicates > redundant field 'author' is ignored for tag 'selfpublished' in dataset 'default'
publications> error in database, invalid value 'selfpublished'
fonts   > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts   > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
structures  > begin of sectionblock 'bodypart'
publications> analyzing previous publication run for 'default'
publications> no entry 'article,book' found in dataset 'default'
structures  > end of sectionblock 'bodypart'
backend > xmp > using file '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/lpdf-pdx.xml'
pages   > flushing realpage 1, userpage 1, subpage 1
structures  > begin of sectionblock 'backpart'
structure   > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 0.1 -> Bibliography
publications> list > collecting entries using method 'global' and sort order 'default'
structures  > end of sectionblock 'backpart'
pages   > flushing realpage 2, userpage 2
close source> level 2, order 3, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex'
close source> level 1, order 3, name '/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'

system  > start used files

system  > text: publications-quick-example

system  > stop used files


system  > start used files

system  >1: filename=char-prv.lua filetype=tex format=tex foundname=/usr/home/braslau/context/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/char-prv.lua 

Re: [NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[Alan Braslau]

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 14:52:49 -0400
Rik Kabel  wrote:

> MWE from page 4 of mkiv-publications (same example found at in the 
> Garden ) produces:
> 
> with an empty bibliography.
> 
> I get similar results with other documents that processed cleanly in
> the past.
> 
> Has the documentation (including the sample code) simply failed to
> keep up with recent changes?
> 

$CONTEXTROOT/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/publications-quick-example.tex

processes as intended using the latest Standalone.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[Rik Kabel]

On 4/3/2018 16:56, Alan Braslau wrote:

On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:07:52 -0400
Rik Kabel  wrote:


Hmmm. Not here. Log attached. Puzzling lines:

└─► grep "^publications" publications-quick-example.log
publications    > adding bib data to set 'default' from source
'C:/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/publications/mkiv-publications.bib'
publications    > duplicates > tag 'article' is present multiple
times: default:1, assigning hashtag 'article-1'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'title' is ignored for
tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'editor' is ignored
for tag 'book' in dataset 'default'
publications    > duplicates > redundant field 'author' is ignored
for tag 'selfpublished' in dataset 'default'
publications    > error in database, invalid value 'selfpublished'
publications    > analyzing previous publication run for 'default'
publications    > no entry 'article,book' found in dataset 'default'
publications    > list > collecting entries using method 'global' and
sort order 'default'

This is on W10P x64. I noticed a few update cycles ago that LuaTeX
had reverted in the latest builds to 1.07.0 from 1.08.0. This is the
first time I have gone back to btx stuff since then. Could it be
related?

Nothing puzzling - these "duplicates" are contained in the .bib example
as a robustness test.

You are using Windows, which indeed has luatex 1.08 (which includes
lua 5.3). The rest of the world has 1.07 (and lua 5.2) while we await
TeXlive freeze.

However, I just tested using a freshly compiled luatex binary (still
1.07) and a freshly, freshly downloaded context, and reproduce empty
references and an empty bibliography (see attached). So, something is
indeed *broken*, and very recently (for I had updated my Standalone just
yesterday, I believe, which worked). Hans, please note.

Alan


Thank you, Alan, for the confirmation. I guess we will have to wait for 
a new beta or revert.


BTW, Windows beta is back to 1.07.0. It /had/ 1.08.0 for a while. The 
reversion happened sometime last week, I think.


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Re: [NTG-context] BTX subsystem fubar, borked, failing with current (2018-04-02) beta

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 10:56 PM, Alan Braslau 
wrote:

> indeed *broken*, and very recently (for I had updated my Standalone just
> yesterday, I believe, which worked). Hans, please note.
>

we are  looking into it.


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Re: [NTG-context] Strange behaviour of \start/stopplacefigure

[Hans Hagen]

On 4/3/2018 12:38 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Mon, 2 Apr 2018, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

The problem is that float with the “bottom” or “auto” positions don’t 
indent the paragraph

which appears after the float while “top” does it.


 begin example
\setupindenting[yes,6cm]
\setupfloat[figure][indentnext=yes]

\starttext

\setupbodyfont[modern]

{\bf NONE:} \input lorem

\placefigure[here]{HERE}{\blackrule[width=6cm,height=2cm]}

{\bf HERE:} \input lorem

\placefigure[top]{TOP}{\blackrule[width=6cm,height=2cm]}

{\bf TOP:} \input lorem

\placefigure[bottom]{BOTTOM}{\blackrule[width=6cm,height=2cm]}

{\bf BOTTOM:} \input lorem

\placefigure[auto]{AUTO}{\blackrule[width=6cm,height=2cm]}

{\bf AUTO:} \input lorem

\stoptext
 end example


The reason for this are these line in page-one.mkiv:

\def\page_one_place_float_auto   {\page_one_place_float_otherwise}
\def\page_one_place_float_top 
{\page_one_place_float_otherwise\nonoindentation}

\def\page_one_place_float_bottom {\page_one_place_float_otherwise}


Older discussion on the same topic:

https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg83098.html


the question is: do we accept an incompatibility when we do that


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