Re: [NTG-context] Automatic thousands separation in \unit

2019-02-09 Thread Marco Patzer
On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 12:22:29 +0100
Marco Patzer  wrote:

> Is there a way to hook the \spaceddigits into \unit somehow?

I tried to add \spaceddigits to the \unit command, but it didn't
work. If someone has an idea how to do that, I'd greatly appreciate.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] \date behaving strange

2019-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/9/2019 2:39 PM, martin wrote:
I'm getting a bit confused. The \date function doesn't result in a 
formatted date. That goes for some files that are a few weeks old.


What am I missing?

\starttext
\date[d=2,m=3,y= 2018]
\stoptext

results in:

d=2m=3y= 2018


An optional formatting parameter has no effect

\date[d=1, m=4, y=2018][weekday, {\\}, dd,{-}, mm,-, year]

line 446 of core-con.mkiv should be:

 {#2}{\currentdatespecification}{\labellanguage}%


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Re: [NTG-context] Bad names

2019-02-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/9/2019 12:15 AM, Alan Braslau wrote:

On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 23:26:21 +0100
Hans Hagen  wrote:


On 2/8/2019 10:22 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:


What is a bad name for context? Does it have any consequences if badly named
files are used? Just being curious.

Bad names are names that can result i a miss when looked up on a case
sensitive system. When you have a workflow where images come from e.g.
graphic designers don't be surprised to get names with inconsistent
casing, one of more spaces in a row, multiple suffixes (or wrong ones),
etc etc ... now when images are referred to e.g. from xml files that
also come from someplace it can get pretty hard to find where something
goes miss. So, here we always normalize (az09-).

In a tex tree files with the same name can lead to wrong lookups
depending on the order of configured paths. There context alway has had
case insensitive lookups.


Because people use brain-dead file systems
we get to use brain-dead file names, case-insensitive, etc., etc.

This can be a bit frustrating for those used to working with real file systems
and real (arbitrary) file names, but it gives better results
for the least common denominator, i.e. Windows... :-(
very subjective ... when program shave to deal with names Foo FoO FOO 
foo ... a pain esp when users don't care, are inconistent, dont' see a 
difference between one or two (proportionally displayed) spaces


imo windows is quite ok: in permits mixed case but also has a normalized 
name .. it's for the tex runs on unixes that we always need to deal with 
inconsistent naming


the problem is nor that much related to operatign systems but to graphic 
editors using a gui, moving files around without typing, constructing 
names from cur and pasted sentences describing the image (and mouse 
moves give worse names than keypresses). Fwiw: most images that we deal 
with come from illustrator on the mac.


Hans

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[NTG-context] \date behaving strange

2019-02-09 Thread martin
I'm getting a bit confused. The \date function doesn't result in a 
formatted date. That goes for some files that are a few weeks old.


What am I missing?

\starttext
\date[d=2,m=3,y= 2018]
\stoptext

results in:

d=2m=3y= 2018


An optional formatting parameter has no effect

\date[d=1, m=4, y=2018][weekday, {\\}, dd,{-}, mm,-, year]

using:
mtx-context | current version: 2019.02.07 18:46
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Re: [NTG-context] Bad names

2019-02-09 Thread Marco Patzer
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 23:26:21 +0100
Hans Hagen  wrote:

> On 2/8/2019 10:22 PM, Marco Patzer wrote:
> 
> > What is a bad name for context? Does it have any consequences if
> > badly named files are used? Just being curious.  
> Bad names are names that can result i a miss when looked up on a case 
> sensitive system. When you have a workflow where images come from
> e.g. graphic designers don't be surprised to get names with
> inconsistent casing, one of more spaces in a row, multiple suffixes
> (or wrong ones)

That's so true. I'm not surprised about anything when dealing with
people. People are really bad at being precise and consistent. You
can wish they were, but they just aren't.

> ... now when images are referred to e.g.
> from xml files that also come from someplace it can get pretty hard
> to find where something goes miss. So, here we always normalize
> (az09-).

So every file name containing something else than lowercase, digits
and a dash is “bad” (and dots obviously)? Doesn't seem to be true:

  a.1.png  %% bad name

Names are read from a database in this case, in case you're
wondering.

Marco
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