[NTG-context] announcement

2019-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

Nearly 20 years into the new millennium, we have decided to freeze the 
development of ConTeXt MkIV as well as luatex and are undertaking today 
a new project. A core team will as of today be working on the next 
version: luatex 2.0, a streamlined flavor of your favorite tool. Stay 
tuned for further information.


Hans & Alan


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Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Joseph Wright

On 01/04/2019 15:55, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi all,

After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a 
new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to 
be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset three 
years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: welcome to 
lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex and mkiv, if 
you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a simple evolution.


The average user will probably not notice many differences but 
nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try:


  http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm

Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure that 
there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, you can 
blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and luatex). Of 
course with the proper mwe's (tex, metapost, lua, or a combination of 
these) we will try to solve them all, we have been testing. In due time 
more about this project will be revealed.


Hans Hagen & Alan Braslau


Hi Hans,

Thanks for the link to the code. A quick install suggests that a 'hello 
world' is working nicely from ConTeXt. However, if I try what you might 
expect from me


luametatex --ini latex.ltx

things go a bit wrong:

This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.00.0  (INITEX)
! error:  (system): missing find_write_file callback

(I also notice there is no plain-like format for testing, or at least 
that just "luametatex" yields an error.)


Clearly things work for ConTeXt, so there must be some early Lua magic 
or similar required. Any thoughts? (I don't get a .log or any other output.)


Joseph

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[NTG-context] follow up

2019-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased 
to present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. 
Same good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex 
and ConTeXt LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can 
now stand on our own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as 
MkII) will continue to coexist and be maintained. However, now you will 
be able to run ConTeXt lmtx on your smart thermostat or on your 
refrigerator for the Internet of Things - the dawn of a new era!


Stay tuned,

Alan and Hans


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[NTG-context] [Wiki] list of editors

2019-04-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Ahoi!

I reworked https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_Editors

The split into "ConTeXt aware" and other editors didn’t make sense since they 
got mixed, editors that are Unicode-disabled we should just ignore, and the 
table had too many columns.

If you know one of these applications better, please add the missing features.

Additional features that *I* look for in an editor are e.g. project management 
(at least a directory tree view) and git client. But maybe that’s out of focus 
for that table.


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Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:55:11PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless,
> when you are in for something new, you can give it a try:
> 
>  http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm

  Fantastic!  I’m pleased to report the first issue: on Mac OS Mojave
(10.14.3) and the font Pagella, the letter ‘u’ isn’t displayed with
Apple Preview -- we can’t see anything at all.  Copypasting does work,
though.  This is more likely to be an issue with the font or Preview
since the document is displayed correctly with Acrobat Reader, I just
thought I’d report it :-)

Best,

Arthur
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
u
\stoptext


issue.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/1/2019 5:36 PM, Joseph Wright wrote:

On 01/04/2019 15:55, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi all,

After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a 
new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to 
be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset 
three years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: 
welcome to lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex 
and mkiv, if you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a 
simple evolution.


The average user will probably not notice many differences but 
nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try:


  http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm

Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure 
that there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, 
you can blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and 
luatex). Of course with the proper mwe's (tex, metapost, lua, or a 
combination of these) we will try to solve them all, we have been 
testing. In due time more about this project will be revealed.


Hans Hagen & Alan Braslau


Hi Hans,

Thanks for the link to the code. A quick install suggests that a 'hello 
world' is working nicely from ConTeXt. However, if I try what you might 
expect from me


     luametatex --ini latex.ltx

things go a bit wrong:

     This is LuaMetaTeX, Version 2.00.0  (INITEX)
     ! error:  (system): missing find_write_file callback

(I also notice there is no plain-like format for testing, or at least 
that just "luametatex" yields an error.)


i might cook up something plain but it has a very low priority, after 
all, plain works with luatex


Clearly things work for ConTeXt, so there must be some early Lua magic 
or similar required. Any thoughts? (I don't get a .log or any other 
output.)
it's a stripped down "lean and mean" engine so it's very unlikely to 
work with plain and latex or other macro packages out of the box


a manual will come available around the context meeting, articles will 
be published the coming months and reveal a bit more


(all this involved over half a year of development and exploration, 
which itself is documented which will also surface around the ctx 
meeting or when i feel the need)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 4/1/2019 8:35 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:55:11PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless,
when you are in for something new, you can give it a try:

  http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm


   Fantastic!  I’m pleased to report the first issue: on Mac OS Mojave
(10.14.3) and the font Pagella, the letter ‘u’ isn’t displayed with
Apple Preview -- we can’t see anything at all.  Copypasting does work,
though.  This is more likely to be an issue with the font or Preview
since the document is displayed correctly with Acrobat Reader, I just
thought I’d report it :-)
The question is why. In a pdf glyphs are referred to by index in a font 
so basically there should be no issue with viewing unless a viewer does 
something magic. If the document views ok in another viewer .. does the 
page print?


For those curious ... there is a new pdf backend in place in lmtx.

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] announcement

2019-04-01 Thread Otared Kavian
Thanks for the announcement, but is it April Fool's Day 2.0?

> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:34, Hans Hagen  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Nearly 20 years into the new millennium, we have decided to freeze the 
> development of ConTeXt MkIV as well as luatex and are undertaking today a new 
> project. A core team will as of today be working on the next version: luatex 
> 2.0, a streamlined flavor of your favorite tool. Stay tuned for further 
> information.
> 
> Hans & Alan
> 
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] follow up

2019-04-01 Thread Floris van Manen
H.

> We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to 
> present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same 
> good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and ConTeXt 
> LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now stand on our 
> own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) will continue to 
> coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able to run ConTeXt lmtx 
> on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for the Internet of Things - 
> the dawn of a new era!

That sound like a very good thing indeed !
Is it available for download already?

.F



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[NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi all,

After more than a decade of mkiv and luatex it's time to move on to a 
new stage. After all, nowadays a ten-year old program is considered to 
be really old, especially for those who consider a manual typeset three 
years ago as an indication of lack of progress. Therefore: welcome to 
lua(meta)tex 2.00 and context lmtx, the follow up on luatex and mkiv, if 
you dare. It has many deep-down changes but aims to be a simple evolution.


The average user will probably not notice many differences but 
nevertheless, when you are in for something new, you can give it a try:


 http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm

Of course you should keep your current installation too. We're sure that 
there will be issues so when you run into unexpected surprises, you can 
blame us (and fall-back on the current Context beta and luatex). Of 
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Re: [NTG-context] follow up

2019-04-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 15:19, Floris van Manen wrote:
>
> H.
>
> > We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to 
> > present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same 
> > good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and 
> > ConTeXt LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now 
> > stand on our own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) 
> > will continue to coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able 
> > to run ConTeXt lmtx on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for 
> > the Internet of Things - the dawn of a new era!
>
> That sound like a very good thing indeed !
> Is it available for download already?

I would have already published the link on the server in Slovenia, but
it seems that there was a bug on the thermostat in the server room (I
was apparently too exhausted yesterday to properly test before I fell
in bed) which lead to some hardware failures. You'll probably need to
wait for another server to be set up. I hope the delay won't be too
long. (I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] follow up

2019-04-01 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2019-04-01 um 14:56 schrieb Hans Hagen :

> We have worked furiously all day kicking-out extra code, and are pleased to 
> present a lean-and-mean version of luatex with your favorite ConTeXt. Same 
> good taste but only half the calories and a new name: luametatex and ConTeXt 
> LMTX. No more Mk-whatever, no more dependencies for we can now stand on our 
> own. Of course, good-old luatex and MkIV (as well as MkII) will continue to 
> coexist and be maintained. However, now you will be able to run ConTeXt lmtx 
> on your smart thermostat or on your refrigerator for the Internet of Things - 
> the dawn of a new era!

I hacked into Hans’ home automation server via the SpiritInTheSky interface of 
my dead badger, running Vüdü Linux 6.66, and borrowed the latest omega version. 
I thought I got it to run, but now the badger is moonstruck and my documents 
are full of moon phase symbols and fnords. I wouldn’t recommend to try this 
early version without vaccinating your hardware first. I guess it’s just too 
meta.


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