[NTG-context] Answer too obvious?

2003-09-04 Thread Höppner, Dierk
Hello,

after some more experimenting I still dont't get what I want. Could someone
please answer with at least an RTFM _and_ a page number?

Thank you and many greetings.

Dierk Höppner

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 Von: Höppner, Dierk 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. August 2003 09:47
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 Betreff: Newbie: referencing and Page numbers
 
 
 Hello all,
 
 a basic question: I have a document with three parts. The 
 pagenumbers display correctly like 1-2, 2-2, 3-2 etc. But 
 referencing Chapter 2 from Part 1 in Part 3 with 
 
 See \in{chapter}[colours] on \at{page}[colors] ...
 
 results in
 
 See chapter 2 on page 3 ...
 
 I want: See chapter 2 on page 1-3 ...
 
 How to achieve this?
 
 Thanks and greetings
 
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[NTG-context] Re: Answer too obvious?

2003-09-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Höppner, Dierk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello,

 after some more experimenting I still dont't get what I want. Could someone
 please answer with at least an RTFM _and_ a page number?

could you provide a minimal file?

Patrick
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AW: [NTG-context] Re: Answer too obvious?

2003-09-04 Thread Höppner, Dierk
Patrick,

I hope so, too. Thank's for looking into it.

Dierk

 
 It seems as if there is no way [1] to setup this kind of reference
 easily. 
 
 
 [1] this is probably wrong. I just can't find any obvious solution.
 Perhaps Hans sees this message and looks into his bag full of ConTeXt
 magic and reveals the magic spell.
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[NTG-context] texfont / typescripts

2003-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Ahoi!

Hans, texfont seems to have a little bug:

If one installs TrueType fonts, it complains about missing pfb
(I can ignore that), but the map file maps only to pfb, not ttf.
My install-font script fixes that, but I suppose it's no
problem to fix that in texfont.
I didn't try OpenType yet, but guess the same problem.

And I'd suggest to let texfont write a sample typescript,
as my script does. (Then I could drop it.)
BTW: There's now a typescript for Microsoft's standard TT
fonts in my collection.
(http://www.ramm.ch/fiee/texnique/material/typescripts.zip)
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: [NTG-context] spacing in heads

2003-09-04 Thread Peter Rolf
% interface=en output=pdftex
\starttext
\showmakeup
\showstruts
\setuphead[section][textcommand=\framed,before=]
\hbox{\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=none]%,strut=no]
 {\section{Hello}
   why is there so much space above the word hello??}}
\stoptext
Hello Patrick,

this one works for me (strut=no is an alternative).
You should give 'Visual Debugging in TeX' (art-visi.pdf) a try. It's 
pure gold to get control
of the hole layout ;)

Greetings,

  Peter



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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML and verbatim

2003-09-04 Thread Pawel Jackowski na Onet
Hi!

 On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:49:40PM +0200, Simon Pepping wrote:
  
   Meybe someone knowns how to 'translate' verbatim environments for XML
code?
   I mean how to define environment which I can use in this way [..]

  There are no verbatim environments in XML, and you cannot get literal
  content. Instead, you can have tags, like your verbatim above, that
  request line-oriented layout. programlisting is such a tag in Docbook.

 That's correct with respect to elements--since XML deliberately avoids
 defining semantics for any element.  But you seem to be overlooking
 CDATA sections, which are more-or-less verbatim environments. The XML
 spec doesn't directly address the question of formatting in CDATA
 sections, but all characters are supposed to be output literally, and
 AFAIK that includes white space--hence all formatting should be
 preserved.

 But I don't know if ConTeXt can handle CDATA sections. Can it?

Good question! As far as I'm concerned (but I'm not concerned far...)
ConTeXt can handle some 'metadata'
like !ENTITY But I don't know exaclty which levels of XML syntax is
handled with ConTeXt core.
I hope Hans will provide some workshops :)


Regards, Pawel


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Re: [NTG-context] spacing in heads

2003-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen
At 20:34 04/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
% interface=en output=pdftex
\starttext
\showmakeup
\showstruts
\setuphead[section][textcommand=\framed,before=]
\hbox{\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=none]%,strut=no]
 {\section{Hello}
   why is there so much space above the word hello??}}
\stoptext
Hello Patrick,

this one works for me (strut=no is an alternative).
You should give 'Visual Debugging in TeX' (art-visi.pdf) a try. It's pure 
gold to get control
of the hole layout ;)
if you wanna see some more:

\showbaselinecorrection
\showgridsnapping
\showstruts
\showgrid
\showbreaks
\tracegridsnappingtrue
\tracepositionstrue
\tracelayerstrue
\tracecolumnsettrue
\tracesidefloatstrue
\traceboxplacementtrue
for much more tracing, grep on show and trace -)

Hans

PS. I bet that context is one of the first apps that uses acrobat layers in 
some fashion:

\showlayoutcomponents
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML and verbatim -- thanks

2003-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen
At 08:49 04/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hello!

 There are no verbatim environments in XML, and you cannot get literal
 content. Instead, you can have tags, like your verbatim above, that
 request line-oriented layout. programlisting is such a tag in Docbook.

 This is how docbook in context does it:

 \def\XMLDBstartlineorientedlayout
{\bgroup
 \frenchspacing \obeyspaces \obeytabs \obeylines
 \parindent=0pt%
 \setupwhitespace[none]
 \def\obeyedline{\par\def\obeyedline{\strut\par}}%
 \def\obeyedspace{\strut\space}%
 \blank[medium]}
 \def\XMLDBstoplineorientedlayout{\blank[medium]\egroup}

 \defineXMLenvironment[programlisting]
{\XMLDBstartlineorientedlayout
 \tt\XMLsimpleentitiestrue}%
{\XMLDBstoplineorientedlayout}
Thanks Simon! Such line-oriented environment is also a solution.


Pawel,

you can learns a few tricks from x-contml and other x-* modules

Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: spacing in heads

2003-09-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hello Peter,

thanks for the answer, I was actually using the visual debugger, but I
wasn't able to tell what the small sqare was for.

So one other question: 
%%
\showmakeup
\starttext
\setuphead[section][textcommand=\framed,before=]
\hbox{\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=0pt]{%
offset=0pt hp\section{Hello}
why is there so much space above the word hello??}
\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=none]{%
offset=none hp\section{Hello}
why is there so much space above the word hello??}}
\stoptext
%%

what is the difference between offset=0pt and offset=none? I thought
that it would only insert a strut, but then again I thought that a
strut has the height and the depth of the font. This is clearly not
the case here, since the f (or h) should be the highest char and p pretty
deep. But compared to the right example there is some space above the
f and below the p. 

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: \digits

2003-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen
At 13:01 01/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
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 \def\scandigits#1%

[...]

 Not that tested -)

Looks fine.

Is there a way to increase the length of the dash in

123,--

Now it looks like a simple -, I'd like to be able to choose between
-, -- and perhaps ---.
you can tweak:

\def\zeroamount{-}
\def\positive  {+}
\def\negative  {-}
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt project structure?

2003-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen
At 17:55 03/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:

 I am looking for a third (...) way as well

what direction?

(i'm thinking of a database option)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XML and verbatim

2003-09-04 Thread Hans Hagen
At 21:09 04/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:

Good question! As far as I'm concerned (but I'm not concerned far...)
ConTeXt can handle some 'metadata'
like !ENTITY But I don't know exaclty which levels of XML syntax is
handled with ConTeXt core.
I hope Hans will provide some workshops :)
well, arrange one at bachotek -)

Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: MetaPost error

2003-09-04 Thread ^Nitram^
Hello

Some more information would be useful:
do ConTeXt files (without metapost stuff) work correctly?

 Yes - thank You for Your time - now everything looks good.
 I fixed it by following:
 -install miktex (large version but I will experimental with
  small version) 
 -unzip new version of ConTeXt
 -remove cont-en.efmt file if exists
 -generate format en
 -generate specific language format
 -update and refresh MikTeX database
 -generate metafun format
 -copy mem file from fmt folder (where is stored after generate) to
  /mem/ folder(s)
 -update and refresh MikTeX database

 And everything looks good ;)

 I had some problems with generate metafun format - there
 I couldn't find mem file on hard disk. Maybe first time I
 forgot  '-update and refresh MikTeX database' ;)

 This the point for new users: after each operation do it ! ;)

 I used:
 This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.3)
 (preloaded format=cont-en 2003.9.4)  4 SEP 2003 23:12
 and:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2003.8.21  fmt: 2003.9.4  int: english  mes: english

 Best regards
 Martin

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