Re: [NTG-context] Simple plain presentation style

2004-06-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Shivkumar Chandrasekaran wrote:
Does anybody have a simple presentation style module that has no fancy 
border/frame graphics or buttons? I need all the real-estate of the 
screen for a presentation that has images that are tall and formulas 
that are wide.
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setuplayout[backspace=12pt,topspace=12pt,width=middle,height=middle,header=0pt,footer=0pt]
\starttext 

... \page ... \page ... \page 

\stoptext 


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Re: [NTG-context] metafun

2004-06-24 Thread Hans Hagen
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I have made
texexec --make metafun
to generate metafun format. And it said it generated it.
But...
I always get these messages
kpathsea: Running mktexfmt metafun.mem
 

fmtutil: no info for format `metafun'.
 

texexec ---make --alone metafun
move the mem file to the path reported by 'kpsewhich cont-en.efmt'
Hans 

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[NTG-context] updating context in cygwin by hand

2004-06-24 Thread jimarin
Hi there,

after some investigation concluded I did not really installed the latest
version of ConTeXt properly. This being the cause of many of my previous
messages that Patrick, Hans and others (thanks to all !) so kindly
replied.

What I have here is a cygwin distro that comes with a texfm distro, in
this distro there is ConTeXt, but an older version from what I want
installed.

So in the texmf tree I put context files. So far so good.

But...this cygwin has a texexec shell script in /usr/bin that makes the
system to launch a texexec it has in: texfm/context/perltk.

I put there the new version of texexec copying into that directory all the
texmf/scripts/perl directory that comes in the new version of ConTeXt.

Now the new texexec is summoned. Great.

I even manage to pass to him the path where to put the en nl and metafun
formats (texfm/web2c) and so it does when I asked it:

texexec --make --alone en nl metafun

But...

when trying to do

texexec --pdf dummy

in /cygdrive/c/documents/versions (a cygwin alias to
C:\documents\versions, place where dummy.tex can be found)

it says:

 TeXExec 4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

executable : pdfetex
format : /cygdrive/c/cygwin/usr/share/texmf/web2c/cont-en
 inputfile : pvm
output : pdftex
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

pdfetex: unrecognized option `-fmt=cont-en'
Try `pdfetex --help' for more information.

   return code : 256
  run time : 0 seconds

total run time : 1 seconds
make: *** [pvm.pdf] Error 1




I suspect the pdfetex executable...


any ideas?

thanks !

Jose

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[NTG-context] command definition

2004-06-24 Thread jimarin
is it possible anything like the following ?

\def\MySomeTable#1%
{
\startbuffer
#1
\stopbuffer
}

\MySomeTable{
\starttable
blah blah blah...
\stoptable
}

I find it difficult...


Jose
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[NTG-context] Re: updating context in cygwin by hand

2004-06-24 Thread Patrick Gundlach

[...]

 pdfetex: unrecognized option `-fmt=cont-en'
 Try `pdfetex --help' for more information.

known bug... see a message from me in thread installation problem

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/15443

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: ConTeXt-Wiki

2004-06-24 Thread Maurice Diamantini
Le 23 juin 04, à 16:54, Patrick Gundlach a écrit :
Hi Maurice,
texshow-web:  http://members.ping.de:8061
ConTeXt wiki: http://members.ping.de:8062
Not accessible!
Perhaps because I'm behind a firewall? I should try at home.
I just double checked that the services both run ok. If there is any
problem that could be on my side, please tell me.
It does work from home,
So I cried to our system administaters, and now it does work
at work too :-)
Thank you very much.

OK, It is open source
But about the documentation.
The easiest way to finf this file is by looking for
mreadme.pdf pragma
in google!
I did 'locate mreadme'.
Yes, but I think the top 10 documents should
directly be accessible from the reference url.
and mreadme.pdf is one of these files
*before* installing context !
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: updating context in cygwin by hand

2004-06-24 Thread jimarin
I think I am almost there...

followed instructions at levana.de/context/

it seems to be searching first the things at my place as:

mktexlsr: Updating /cygdrive/c/ConTeXt/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /usr/share/texmf/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Updating /var/cache/fonts/ls-R...

my place goes first

then I invoke texexec.pl with fullpath and --tex=pdfetex
and copied all scripts in myPLace/texfm/scripts/perl into
/usr/share/texmf/perltk (the place intermediate scripts are being called)

but...

eventually get:

---
   return code : 0
  run time : 2 seconds
   generating graphics : metaposting mpgraph.mp

 TeXExec 4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004

  metapost : mpgraph
format : metafun
metafun: not found

total run time : 1 seconds
  sorting and checking : running texutil
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.4.5)
**
! End of file on the terminal... why?


I am stuck even reading the previous posts...


 [...]

 pdfetex: unrecognized option `-fmt=cont-en'
 Try `pdfetex --help' for more information.

 known bug... see a message from me in thread installation problem

 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/15443

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[NTG-context] correction

2004-06-24 Thread dr. Hans van der Meer
re: might be an error in ConTeXt file prop-mis.tex
I had some difficulty with typesetting backgrounds.
It seems there is an error in file prop-mis.tex (version 2004-06-21):
	token \popsplitnegativeproperty is never defined but 
\popsplitoverprintproperty is twice.
I think the second one should be \popsplitnegativeproperty, because 
then the sequence
	\startbackground
	some text
	\stopbackground
does typeset after regenerating the formats.

Hope this helps.
Hans van der Meer
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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 24.06.2004 um 16:13 schrieb Maurice Diamantini:
A ConTeXt reference book would be much like an uptodate
cont-eni.pdf manual. It would be comparable to the couple
LaTeX Lamport + Latex Compagnon
Would be, should be, yes.
But the reference cont-eni.pdf doesn't talk about math nor biblio.
Both are extensions from my point of view.
Even if math is typical for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt.
I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX.
ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout.
I seldom need any formula - TeX/ConTeXt is for me simply the
system of choice for big documents (books), presentations and
everything scriptable.
(For most of my work I use InDesign.)
Also there is several means to do tables, and it seams
that the two main context reference documents (gettingStart and
cont-eni.pdf) doesn't talk about the same table system.
Morever, neither of them talk about the last most supported
table system which seams to be enattab.pdf!!
Yes, that's confusing.
I made an overview in my german docs, will transfer it to the Wiki soon.
And every latex package has its own docs that you should read - some
are books itself (e.g. komascript).
Doen't know about it, doen't need it, so I'm glab it is not in
the latex manuals :-)
The KOMA classes are an enhanced replacement for the standard LaTeX 
classes
my Markus Kohm. If you use LaTeX it's a pity if you don't know them!

I think the simplest thing to do is a to make a lite introduction
documentation for use as a guide about which docs should be seen
as reference (which table to use, how to to biblio, ...)
Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic.
But I'm no scientific user.
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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-24 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:12:34 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic.
But I'm no scientific user.
Actually, I think bibliographies are VERY basic. I edit an academic 
journal; each article has to have its own bib and m-bib can only be used 
once per document, and the (old) version I use has a few bugs (will try 
the latest version after some mission-critical stuff is out; I've 
(amateurishly) hacked the old version so that it at least does what I want 
for now).

But ConTeXt really needs a full-fledged bibliography solution as part of 
the basic package I think.

Question: in what context (no pun intended) do you use InDesign? Where is 
ConTeXt not so applicable?

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-24 Thread William D. Neumann
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

 Even if math is typical for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt.

 I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX.
 ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout.

And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take.  I would love to use
ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much
easier, not just layout and design.  Unfortunately, it's inability to play
like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, means
that I have to constantly turn back to LaTeX whenever I need to write
something for work or school.

 Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic.
 But I'm no scientific user.

And for those of us who are, bibliographies are *crucial* and should be
considered a basic part of any tpesetting program that wants to be taken
seriously.  And while m-bib is usually sufficient, it too has enough
quirks that it's just not worth the time to even bother if you want to
submit a paper that has a special format requirement for the
bibliographies.

William D. Neumann

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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 24.06.2004 um 21:34 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid:
Question: in what context (no pun intended) do you use InDesign? Where 
is ConTeXt not so applicable?
My main work (at home) is a bimonthly magazine (unitarische blätter
for german unitarian religious fellowship); I know Hans (and perhaps
some others) could do it with ConTeXt, but not me; I prefer to work
visible if I use a lot of pictures and a non-scriptable layout.
Further I use it as text processor for letters etc., but therefore
I ever wanted to make a ConTeXt environment.
At work (a daily newspaper) we use InDesign for all the ads - that is,
I work there as a programmer and sysadmin, so I don't really work with
InDesign but only test its PostScript code or PDFs. (Today I recognized
that it always writes OPI comments for TIFFs and never for EPS,
independent from your output options; further it can't separate duplex
EPS from PhotoShop, only DCS...)
Sorry for being OT.
At work I use ConTeXt for presentations (e.g. Acrobat tutorial) and
flowcharts. At home for books, my address book, my ConTeXt tutorial
and some small stuff.
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