Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-25 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:34:20 -0600
Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, I think bibliographies are VERY basic. I edit an academic 
 journal; each article has to have its own bib and m-bib can only be used 
 once per document, and the (old) version I use has a few bugs (will try 
 the latest version after some mission-critical stuff is out; I've 
 (amateurishly) hacked the old version so that it at least does what I want 
 for now).

Hello Idris,

If you tell me what you want from the bib package, chances are that it
will be added (if you don't, it won't be). 

Generally, without feature requests there will never be any new features,
and without bug reports bugs will never get fixed. So: if anybody has 
requests for the bib package, let me know.

Greetings, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: filename

2004-06-25 Thread Thomas Lohmann
Many thanks,

Greetings

Thomas Lohmann
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[NTG-context] Re: Installation problem

2004-06-25 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Matt Gushee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 texexec --make en de nl

 Yes, I knew about that, and had already created the en and nl formats
 (since I don't work with German documents at all, I don't need de, do
 I?).

No, you don't need de. Even when you want to typeset german
documents, you don't need de. (Trust me, I typeset german documents,
but never create the german format file :)

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Re: [NTG-context] correction

2004-06-25 Thread Hans Hagen
dr. Hans van der Meer wrote:
re: might be an error in ConTeXt file prop-mis.tex
I had some difficulty with typesetting backgrounds.
It seems there is an error in file prop-mis.tex (version 2004-06-21):
token \popsplitnegativeproperty is never defined but 
\popsplitoverprintproperty is twice.
I think the second one should be \popsplitnegativeproperty, because 
then the sequence
\startbackground
some text
\stopbackground
does typeset after regenerating the formats.
ah, clever, thanks for pointing this out; 

btw, there is a better background mechanism (see details manual) using some context-metapost magic 

Hans 

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[NTG-context] math in ConTeXt

2004-06-25 Thread jimarin
is ConTeXt prepared for math?

I mean...can I do...

$\sum_{i=1}^{n}{x_{i}}$

as I used to in LaTeX ?

I don't make the \Sigma to be under and over characterised by i=1 and n.

Jose
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Re: [NTG-context] math in ConTeXt

2004-06-25 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hello,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is ConTeXt prepared for math?
 

With regard to mathematics ConTeXt can do all things which plain TeX can.
I mean...can I do...
$\sum_{i=1}^{n}{x_{i}}$
as I used to in LaTeX?
 

Yes. For displaymath you can use plain TeX's $$\sum$$ or better
\placeformula
\startformula
\stopfromula
(LaTeX's \[ ... \] doesn't work.)
I don't make the \Sigma to be under and over characterised by i=1 and n.
In inline math you need \limits\sum if you want to have the i=1 below 
and the n above the sum sign. If I'm not mistaken, LaTeX does the same.

Regards,
Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: updating context in cygwin by hand

2004-06-25 Thread jimarin
the blue thing was a mistake of mine...it is solved now !

will see what is failing with the update of texexec.pl...if I find the
reason I will report it

I like ConTeXt !!

thanks

Jose



 [...]

 but I cannot place a blue thing in the background...I have some overlay
 with a blue strip I wan to put in the background and it won't come up,
 another overlay in the normal text area goes fine...

 You might think of posting the not-working file, so we could see what
 is going wrong.

 this morning some message saying something about the background was
 issued but I deleted it (-gasp-)

 You know about URL:news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context?

 when new distributions come into place...is there anything like an
 standard (automatic) battery of tests (making some documents...or so...)
 which is performed?

 Good question. I have problems generating the manual documentation
 once in a while, so I guess these aren't used for the test :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-25 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 08:21:03 +0200, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hello Idris,
If you tell me what you want from the bib package, chances are that it
will be added (if you don't, it won't be).
Thnx, Taco, u r right of course; I am just waiting till I can test the 
latest version of m-bib before I submit a report (since u may have already 
fixed things). After I get some mission-critical stuff to the printer I'll 
be in a better position to do that.

Best
Idris
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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] math in ConTeXt

2004-06-25 Thread Otared Kavian
is ConTeXt prepared for math?
I mean...can I do...
$\sum_{i=1}^{n}{x_{i}}$
as I used to in LaTeX ?
I don't make the \Sigma to be under and over characterised by i=1 and n.
Jose
Hi Jose,
Indeed ConTeXt contains all the plain TeX commands and you can use 
them (in this case \sum). So these formulas give what you want
$\sum_{i=1}^n x_i$ (for the summation)
$\prod_{i=1}^{i=n} (1+x_i)$ (for the product), and so on.

For the displayed version you can use either
$$\sum_{i=1}^n x_i$$
or
\startformula
\sum_{i=1}^n x_i
\stopformula
Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-25 Thread Hans Hagen
William D. Neumann wrote:
And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take.  I would love to use
ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much
easier, not just layout and design.  Unfortunately, it's inability to play
like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, mean
eh .. what's wrong with the footnotes?
Hans
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[NTG-context] new typeface toy

2004-06-25 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hey Patrick, all,

I like the wiki a lot. Thanks for getting it going! It's a nice, quick
way to get hints out there. 

As a result, I wrote up a little font-usage hack that wasn't quite big
enough for a MyWay, but that I wanted to share with folks:

http://members.ping.de:8062/context/show/FlexiFace

But enough of the self-promotion ;) There's a lot of good stuff up there.

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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-25 Thread William D. Neumann
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Hans Hagen wrote:

 William D. Neumann wrote:

 And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take.  I would love to use
 ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much
 easier, not just layout and design.  Unfortunately, it's inability to play
 like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, mean
 
 eh .. what's wrong with the footnotes?

Set a page in two column with footnotes set to span just the column where
the mark is placed (I forget the full commands to do this... I could look
them up, but you probably know what they are...).  Now, place a footnote.

In LaTeX, you get something that looks like:

text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text[1]   texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
-- text text text text
[1] footnote foot  text text text text
footnote footnote  text text text text
footnote footnote  text text text text



In ConTeXt you get something like:

text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text[1]   texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
--
[1] footnote foot
footnote footnote
footnote footnote

That is, the other column doesn't flow around the footnote in the other
column, wasting space and looking ugly.  I asked at least twice on this
list how to fix this and received no fixes.  If you have a fix, I would
be *very* pleased to hear about it...

William D. Neumann

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Can \note repeat its footnote?

2004-06-25 Thread Hans Hagen
Stefan Wachter wrote:
Hi Hans,
thanks for your reply. Unfortunately your solution does not work 
correctly. The following example produces one footnote at the first 
page  but no footnote on the second page.

\starttext
funny\myfootnote[funny]{funny} funny\mynote[funny]
\page
funny\mynote[funny] funny\mynote[funny]
\stoptext
--Stefan
PS: Would it be possible to use the same footnote mark again when a 
footnote is repeated?
sure but this needs some thought (for instance clashing numbers/symbols)
\def\myfootnote[#1]#2% let's guess that #2 is without catcode problems
 {\setgvalue{note:t:#1}%
{\setxvalue{note:l:#1}{\getvalue{note:n:#1}}%
 \footnote[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]{#2}}%
  \setgvalue{note:n:#1}%
{1}%
  \getvalue{note:t:#1}}%
\def\mynote[#1]%
 {\removeunwantedspaces
  \scratchcounter\getvalue{note:n:#1}\relax
  \edef\NoteNumber{\the\scratchcounter}%
  \doglobal\incrementvalue{note:n:#1}\relax
  \doifreferencefoundelse{note:a:#1:1}
{\edef\NotePageA{\number\currentrealreference}%
 \doifreferencefoundelse{note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}}
   {\edef\NotePageB{\number\currentrealreference}%
\doifreferencefoundelse{note:a:#1:\NoteNumber}
  {\ifnum\currentrealreference=\NotePageB\relax
 \pagereference[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}]%
 \note[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]%
   \else\ifnum\NotePageA=\NotePageB\relax
 \pagereference[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}]%
 \note[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]%
   \else
 \getvalue{note:t:#1}%
   \fi\fi}
  {\ifnum\NotePageA=\NotePageB\relax
 \pagereference[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}]%
 \note[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]%
   \else
 \getvalue{note:t:#1}%
   \fi}}
   {\pagereference[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}]%
\note[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]}}
{\pagereference[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:n:#1}]%
 \note[note:a:#1:\getvalue{note:l:#1}]}}
\starttext
% test \myfootnote[funny]{first occurence} test\mynote[funny]
% test \myfootnote[again]{first occurence} \page test \mynote[again]
funny \myfootnote[funny]{funny} funny \mynote[funny] \page
funny \mynote[funny] funny \mynote[funny] funny \mynote[funny] \page
funny \mynote[funny] funny \mynote[funny] \page
funny \mynote[funny] funny \mynote[funny] funny \mynote[funny] \page
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] docs

2004-06-25 Thread Hans Hagen
William D. Neumann wrote:
In LaTeX, you get something that looks like:
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text[1]   texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
-- text text text text
[1] footnote foot  text text text text
footnote footnote  text text text text
footnote footnote  text text text text

In ConTeXt you get something like:
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text[1]   texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
text text text texttext text text text
--
[1] footnote foot
footnote footnote
footnote footnote
That is, the other column doesn't flow around the footnote in the other
column, wasting space and looking ugly.  I asked at least twice on this
list how to fix this and received no fixes.  If you have a fix, I would
be *very* pleased to hear about it...
 

there is \setupfootnotes[location=columns] but i just found out that 
that is broken (i have to adapt that to the new multiple footnotes 
mechanism); will do that

btw, in that case footnotes are placed in the last column  (the reason 
why footnotes by default end up on the page is that there can be mixed 
multi-single column usage

Hans
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