[NTG-context] Re: Some proposed improvements for t-amsl.tex.
Hello Moses (uh ... I hope that's the name and Brooks is the surname ... :)), thank you very much for your email; it's very detailed and useful, which is why I've only replied this late (well, also because vacation-style RL popped in, but I digress :)) I'll address a couple of points replying under the relevant text. Monday, August 2, 2004 Brooks Moses wrote: > This inconvenience happens to show up in t-amsl.tex's "align" and "gather" > implementations, which is one place where I really need that compatibility > function. However, it turns out that there's a simple way to rewrite the > implementation so to avoid needing \grabuntil. > Mostly, this works on the fact that the definition of Plain TeX's \eqalign > function can be split apart into a before and after part, as follows: > \def\starteqalign{\null\,\vcenter\bgroup >\openup\jot {\mathsurround=0pt}% >\ialign\bgroup > > \strut\hfil$\displaystyle{##}$&$\displaystyle{{}##}$\hfil >\crcr} > \def\stopeqalign{\crcr\egroup\egroup\,} > (This, aside from the \bgroup's and \egroup's, is copied directly from > Appendix B of The TeXbook.) Thus, we could expand the instances of > \eqalign in the \startalign and \startgather definitions, shuffle things > around appropriately, and obtain the following: > \def\startalign{\startformula > \let\\\cr > \starteqalign} > \def\stopalign{\crcr\stopeqalign\stopformula} > \def\startgather{\startformula > \def\\{\cr&}% > \starteqalign&} > \def\stopgather{\crcr\stopeqalign\stopformula} > This exactly duplicates the existing functionality in the t-amsl.tex > package. Stop #1. I *enormously* love this idea. Have you been running test cases with this code instead of the one in t-amsl? If so, then I'll put it in the official t-amsl instantly. > However, that functionality could be improved to be a better > match to what's provided in amsmath.tex; in particular, align should accept > multiple columns of equations, and gather should center its lines. Thus, I > propose that the following redefinitions be included in t-amsl: > \def\startalign{\startformula >\let\\\cr >\null\vcenter\bgroup >\openup\jot {\mathsurround=0pt}% >\everycr={}\tabskip=4pt plus1fil \halign to \displaywidth\bgroup >\strut\hfil$\displaystyle{##}$% >\tabskip=0pt &$\displaystyle{{}##}$\hfil% >\tabskip=4pt plus1fil &&\hfil$\displaystyle{##}$% >\tabskip=0pt &$\displaystyle{{}##}$\hfil% >\tabskip=4pt plus1fil \crcr} > \def\stopalign{\crcr\crcr\egroup\egroup\stopformula} > \def\startgather{\startformula >\let\\\cr >\null\,\vcenter\bgroup >\openup\jot {\mathsurround=0pt}% >\ialign\bgroup >\strut\hfil$\displaystyle{##}$\hfil >\crcr} > \def\stopgather{\crcr\crcr\egroup\egroup\,\stopformula} I like it. The only thing I would fix is that instead of the fixed 0pt and 4pt I would set up some \dimens (\intersomethingspacing or so). What do you think? And again, if you have actually been using this code instead of the one in t-amsl, I'll be happy to add it. > Also, a similar method can be used to replicate the split environment > (which, unlike the above, should go inside an explicit \startformula and > \stopformula pair). I propose the following definition be added as well: > \def\startsplit{% >\let\\\cr >\null\,\vcenter\bgroup >\openup\jot {\mathsurround=0pt}% >\ialign\bgroup > > \strut\hfil$\displaystyle{##}$&$\displaystyle{{}##}$\hfil >\crcr} > \def\stopsplit{\crcr\egroup\egroup\,} > This still doesn't address the fact that the lines in the align and gather > environments are not given individual equation numbers as they should be, > but I think that is a project for another day. Yeah, equation numbering in ConTeXt is something which I left "for another day" myself (I need it for the nath package as well). > P.S. A question: is it intentional that the array environment in t-amsl > produces notably different spacing than LaTeX's array environment? No, it's simply due to the fact that I haven't even bother to check if it were or not, because I didn't care either way :) The parameters are there. We'd only have to check how to use it within the ConTeXt spacing framework. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)
Am 25.08.2004 um 22:40 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: that's also what I experienced: the code works with very small footnotes. I am working now on a thesis with kind of normal equipment: Some hundred pages, about 900 footnotes with lots of them quite long (seems to be normal nowadays for art-historians). So what to do? How do you imagine to fit that large footnotes into the margin? Is your margin wider than your text area? Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] nath problems and patches
Friday, August 13, 2004 Christopher Creutzig wrote: > Giuseppe, > you may or may not know about these problems already, so I decided to > simply send them all. I'm using t-nath.tex 2003.12.08, updated five > minutes ago from www.tug.org, ConTeXt 2004.6.26, and pdfeTeX > 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5). > nath seems to have trouble with $$...$$-formulas. This file won't compile: > \usemodule[nath] > \starttext > \placeformula > $$a$$ > \stoptext > Error message: > Runaway argument? > \@@dollar {\to \asciiB \ExpandBothAfter \doifincsnameelse \asciiA > \asciiB \ETC. > ! File ended while scanning use of \convertargument. > Replacing $$...$$ by \startformula...\stopformula fixes this, That's because nath recatcodes the $ signs and the original definition of \placeformula doesn't work when they are active. (Hans, can we look into this together, please?) Don't use $$ ... $$ with \placeformula (they should work ok for numberless formulas though). Actually, you've hit on one of the most strange bugs in the nath module: it didn't support use of \startformula ... \stopformula either! It *seemed* to work, but it didn't really act properly. You may want to try your examples with \[ ... \] instead of \startformula ... \stopformula, and see if you still have the problems. In the mean time, I will upload a new version of nath which should also allow use of \startformula. > Another bug: t-nath.tex defines \savecatcode and > \restorecatcode, but these names have already been used in > verb-ini.tex. I have locally replaced these with > \nath!savecatcode and \nath!restorecatcode, seems to work. Thanks for spotting it! -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Re: Re: nath catcode issues
Sunday, August 8, 2004 Nikolai Weibull wrote: > * Giuseppe Bilotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Aug 08, 2004 16:30]: >> ConTeXt ver: 2004.6.30 fmt: 2004.7.27 int: english mes: english > Me too. >> [Example] > Argh, that doesn't happen here... >> This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-rc4-2.1 (MiKTeX 2.4) > pdfeTeX (Web2C 7.4.5) 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 > I run latest tetex. > I don't remember what busted, but it looks good. It works for my > thesis, which is weird because you misspelled a \let (\lext) and it > still worked fine. That part doesn't get reached by your thesis, evidently :) > Furthermore, nested parentheses and stuff that produces implicit > parentheses don't scale correctly. In fact, \left and \right don't seem > to work either: > \usemodule[nath] > \starttext > \[ (\frac{a}{b})^2 \] > versus > \[ \left(\frac{a}{b}\right)^2 \] > \stoptext This works here :\ Ok, looks like my version of nath and yours are more different than I thought at first. I'll try to upload a new version in the next days. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)
Hi Willi, that's also what I experienced: the code works with very small footnotes. I am working now on a thesis with kind of normal equipment: Some hundred pages, about 900 footnotes with lots of them quite long (seems to be normal nowadays for art-historians). So what to do? Steffen Willi Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Steffen, > > I tried your code and indeed I am getting also half-empty pages. > > I tried then the following: > I replaced the dorecurse by > > \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} > \blank[1cm] > \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} > \blank[1cm] > \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} > \blank[1cm] > \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \page > > This fills pages and the \mynotes are placed in the margin. > > However I played also with text in one of the \mynotes. As long as the > text is short i.e. not longer than one width of the margin everything is > o.k. Once the text becomes longer, the page on which the \mynote is > placed shortens increasing with the length of the \mynote. > > So there must be a reason which is beyond my knowledge for this behaviour. > > Willi > > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > > Hans, > > > > I don't know what crazy stuff Idris is using this footnotes for, > > but for my case it went absolutely horrible: Almost every page gets half empty!! > > > > It looks like the footnotes are just moved to the margin - leaving empty space, > > without the body text comes flush bottom again. I'm sure my publisher won't be > > amused about all this empty paper... > > > > It tried to send a minimal example and changed just the text between \starttext > > and \stoptext. > > > > Maybe there is something that could be changed in order to get the main text in > > flush bottom shape again AND keep the corresponding footnotes in the margin? > > > > > > Steffen > > (Sorry Hans, but I tried for three hours now to understand and change the source > > without any chance...) > > > > > > > > \showframe > > > > \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] > > > > \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] > > > > \setuptexttexts > > [margin] > > [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] > > [] > > > > \starttext > > > > \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par \input tufte \mynote{\input knuth \par}\par} > > > > \stoptext > > > > > > > > > > > > Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > >> > >> > >>>does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but > >>>not below the body text? > >>>A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no > >>>"\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]" > >>>and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow. > >>> > >>>Does anybody know a working solution? > >>> > >>> > >> > >>Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -) > >> > >>\showframe > >> > >>\definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] > >> > >>\setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] > >> > >>\setuptexttexts > >> [margin] > >> [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] > >> [] > >> > >>\starttext > >> > >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > >>test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > >> > >>\stoptext > >> > >>or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable): > >> > >>\setuptexttexts > >> [margin] > >> [\setups{flushmynotes}] > >> [] > >> > >>\startsetups flushmynotes > >> > >> \vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill} > >> > >>\stopsetups > >> > >>So, it's up to you to feed this in the wiki -) > >> > >>Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)
Hi Steffen, I tried your code and indeed I am getting also half-empty pages. I tried then the following: I replaced the dorecurse by \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \page This fills pages and the \mynotes are placed in the margin. However I played also with text in one of the \mynotes. As long as the text is short i.e. not longer than one width of the margin everything is o.k. Once the text becomes longer, the page on which the \mynote is placed shortens increasing with the length of the \mynote. So there must be a reason which is beyond my knowledge for this behaviour. Willi Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hans, I don't know what crazy stuff Idris is using this footnotes for, but for my case it went absolutely horrible: Almost every page gets half empty!! It looks like the footnotes are just moved to the margin - leaving empty space, without the body text comes flush bottom again. I'm sure my publisher won't be amused about all this empty paper... It tried to send a minimal example and changed just the text between \starttext and \stoptext. Maybe there is something that could be changed in order to get the main text in flush bottom shape again AND keep the corresponding footnotes in the margin? Steffen (Sorry Hans, but I tried for three hours now to understand and change the source without any chance...) \showframe \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] \setuptexttexts [margin] [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] [] \starttext \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par \input tufte \mynote{\input knuth \par}\par} \stoptext Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Steffen Wolfrum wrote: does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but not below the body text? A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no "\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]" and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow. Does anybody know a working solution? Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -) \showframe \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] \setuptexttexts [margin] [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] [] \starttext test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page \stoptext or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable): \setuptexttexts [margin] [\setups{flushmynotes}] [] \startsetups flushmynotes \vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill} \stopsetups So, it's up to you to feed this in the wiki -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)
Hans, I don't know what crazy stuff Idris is using this footnotes for, but for my case it went absolutely horrible: Almost every page gets half empty!! It looks like the footnotes are just moved to the margin - leaving empty space, without the body text comes flush bottom again. I'm sure my publisher won't be amused about all this empty paper... It tried to send a minimal example and changed just the text between \starttext and \stoptext. Maybe there is something that could be changed in order to get the main text in flush bottom shape again AND keep the corresponding footnotes in the margin? Steffen (Sorry Hans, but I tried for three hours now to understand and change the source without any chance...) \showframe \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] \setuptexttexts [margin] [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] [] \starttext \dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par \input tufte \mynote{\input knuth \par}\par} \stoptext Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > >does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but not > >below the body text? > >A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no > >"\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]" > >and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow. > > > >Does anybody know a working solution? > > > > > Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -) > > \showframe > > \definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=] > > \setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle] > > \setuptexttexts > [margin] > [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] > [] > > \starttext > > test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page > > \stoptext > > or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable): > > \setuptexttexts > [margin] > [\setups{flushmynotes}] > [] > > \startsetups flushmynotes > > \vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill} > > \stopsetups > > So, it's up to you to feed this in the wiki -) > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > > ___ > ntg-context mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new ConTeXt versions
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: I just used Taco's new script (which I find wonderful, thanks so much!), and this made me realize a problem: the latest version of ConTeXt should have updated texexec to version 4.4 -- and it did, sort of. When I checked, it still said "texexec : TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004." I then realized that the new versions of the scripts sit in texmf/scripts/context, while the old versions (that are still being called by the binary texexec) reside in texmf/context/perltk. For the time being, I just copied them over (one could also put softlinks in there, I suppose), but I wonder if this behavior can be modified -- I coulnd't find anything in texexec.rme. My system is tetex on Mac OS X. Anyone else have the same problems? Welcome to the changes in tds and distributions. When you also update the binaries, you can use: textools --fixtexmftrees The scripts are loaded by so called stubs. If you want to play safe, use texmfstart instead: texmfstart texexec.pl . The indirect way permits me to adapt things to changes in the tree (unfortunately those changes are not always downward compatible, but in texmfstart i can at least try to hide this) (see texmfstart manual for more features) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] [Fwd: how to typeset Russian font in ConTeXt]
-- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - --- Begin Message --- Please tell me how to typeset Russian font (Cyrillic) font in ConTeXt. Best, H. -- -* Hong Feng| Publisher, Free Software Magazine| Chairman, Chinese TeX User Group | [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rons.net.cn/hongfeng.html | -* --- End Message --- ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] new ConTeXt versions
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 01:00:03PM +0200, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: > I just used Taco's new script (which I find wonderful, thanks so > much!), and this made me realize a problem: the latest version of > ConTeXt should have updated texexec to version 4.4 -- and it did, sort > of. When I checked, it still said "texexec : TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / > PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004." I then realized that the new versions of the > scripts sit in texmf/scripts/context, while the old versions (that are > still being called by the binary texexec) reside in > texmf/context/perltk. For the time being, I just copied them over (one > could also put softlinks in there, I suppose), but I wonder if this > behavior can be modified -- I coulnd't find anything in texexec.rme. My > system is tetex on Mac OS X. Anyone else have the same problems? Here is what I do to be sure that always my own (up-to-date) context is being used instead of any (almost certainly older) one from a tex distribution, on all machines I have to use. - I have context in my private texmf tree in $HOME. By default, this should be the first texmf being searched. - I have links to texmf/scripts/context/xxx.pl etc in $HOME/bin (without suffix pl). $HOME/bin comes first in the search path for executables. To be sure to notice changes like the new location of the scripts, I usually remove an existing context before installing a newer one. Regards, Eckhart ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] new ConTeXt versions
I just used Taco's new script (which I find wonderful, thanks so much!), and this made me realize a problem: the latest version of ConTeXt should have updated texexec to version 4.4 -- and it did, sort of. When I checked, it still said "texexec : TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004." I then realized that the new versions of the scripts sit in texmf/scripts/context, while the old versions (that are still being called by the binary texexec) reside in texmf/context/perltk. For the time being, I just copied them over (one could also put softlinks in there, I suppose), but I wonder if this behavior can be modified -- I coulnd't find anything in texexec.rme. My system is tetex on Mac OS X. Anyone else have the same problems? Best Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Announcing a new script: TeXVersion
Le 25 août 04, à 09:28, Taco Hoekwater a écrit : Running it will generate output like this: TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004 texexec : TeXExec 4.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 texutil : TeXUtil 7.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2002 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) context : ver: 2004.8.15 cont-en : ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2004.6.19 mes: english ... This functionality will eventually become part of texexec. Great script! thanks you Taco, Just a suggestion: options for: - putting the full path of the executables, - some other informations for finding frequently source of problems (metapost not operationnal...) Thanks again, -- Maurice Diamantini ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Footnotes in margin (again)
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Hi, as the dust has settled over the ancient greeks I would like to re-ask a posting that is about another quite crucial question: How to place footnotes in the margin? Every time I turn on \showframe I think that the margin is such a beautiful place for placing footnotes (per page, flushbottom). There must be a way! Isn't there a way, Hans? i posted something, didn't i? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Announcing a new script: TeXVersion
Hi, Sometimes I find it quite hard to discover what version of TeX + ConTeXt I am actually running. As an aid in debugging problems, I have created a Perl script that attempts to collect all relevant version information and prints it to the screen in an organized manner. Running it will generate output like this: TeXVersion 0.1 / Taco Hoekwater 2004 texexec : TeXExec 4.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2004 texutil : TeXUtil 7.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2002 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.14159-1.10b-2.1 (Web2C 7.4.5) context : ver: 2004.8.15 cont-en : ver: 2003.1.31 fmt: 2004.6.19 mes: english If you are interested, you can download the script from http://tex.aanhet.net/context/scripts/ This functionality will eventually become part of texexec. -- groeten, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context