[NTG-context] using fonts -- installation

2004-12-07 Thread r . ermers
Dear Contexers,

I'm logging in through webmail, so right now I cannot try your suggestions but 
I will as soon as I get home. I already thank everybody for responding.

I am puzzled by this line which Hans wrote:

\definetypeface[johanna][rm][serif][palatino][default]

Hans further writes that [serif][palatino] is the main typescript filter and 
that [rm] is mapped on to [serif][palatino]

I don't quite grasp this.

- Why exactly do I have to refer to [serif][palatino]?
- Do you mean that palatino serves as a default which has to be remapped when a 
new font is installed?
- Where is this status of palatino registered? 
- And why did you chose palatino, rather than another typeface?

Thanks again,

Robert


 Rob Ermers wrote:
 
 
 The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown
 variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my cyrillic
 font working under context...
 
 that message is an indication that you didn't define it as bodyfont
 
 for instance:
 
 \definetypeface[johanna][rm][serif][palatino][default]
 
 
 will provide
 
 \setupbodyfont[johanna,10pt,rm]
 
 
 the combination [serif] [palatino] is the main typescript filter, while
 [rm] is
 what it gets mapped onto; [default] concerns the size
 
 Hans
 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Adam Lindsay
Patrick Gundlach said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:09:54 +0100:

 Good question. I'll throw it open to the list:
 Metrics for the urw clone 35 used to be commonly found everywhere. Where
 have they gone?

Do you have psnfss for LaTeX installed?

I guess I don't. gwTeX doesn't seem to throw it in there. (I reinstalled
prompted by your earlier Q.)

So where (e.g., on CTAN) would you point this person to?

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Re: [NTG-context] Black generation in cmyk output

2004-12-07 Thread Tobias Hilbricht
Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Taco Hoekwater um 11:10:
 Just curious: why do you need a cmyk pdf document?

Of course you can leave colour space conversion and colour separation to
the printer (provided the printer has the means to do so). However, for
full control over the print colours it is better to have a calibrated
monitor and a document in the CMYK colourspace - then you see what the
colours a likely to look like, and dependency on the printer is reduced.
Agencies, which prepare graphics for advertisements, pay thousands of
Euros to be able to control the correct outcome of corporate colours or
skin colours, for example.

Yours sincerely

Tobias Hilbricht

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[NTG-context] Re: using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick Gundlach

[...]

Do you have psnfss for LaTeX installed?

 I guess I don't. gwTeX doesn't seem to throw it in there. (I reinstalled
 prompted by your earlier Q.)

 So where (e.g., on CTAN) would you point this person to?

Good question, I just looked at CTAN. The sources are in
fonts/psfonts/psnfss-source, but have to be generated by a makefile,
wich needs some modification on my linux box.

Would it make sense to create the metrics and put the online?

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Wolfgang Zillig
I got some info from the miktex forum:
the font: uplr8t is a replacement for the adobe font. The Adobe font is called 
pplr8t.tfm

So I still not for sure where the error comes from
- false font names
- missing font names
What do you think?
Wolfgang
Patrick Gundlach wrote:
[...]

Do you have psnfss for LaTeX installed?
I guess I don't. gwTeX doesn't seem to throw it in there. (I reinstalled
prompted by your earlier Q.)
So where (e.g., on CTAN) would you point this person to?

Good question, I just looked at CTAN. The sources are in
fonts/psfonts/psnfss-source, but have to be generated by a makefile,
wich needs some modification on my linux box.
Would it make sense to create the metrics and put the online?
Patrick
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[NTG-context] New context Release notes

2004-12-07 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi there,

For those of you who are interested, Hans has released a new ConTeXt last 
week, and I've created a release notes pages for it here:

http://contextgarden.net/Context_2004.12.06

Highlights:
* texfont.pl is now version 2.2.1. From now on, it uses internal filename 
  globbing (using a new switch: --pattern=wildcard) instead of the shell 
  wildcard expansion. 
  Obviously, this means that the commandline has changed.

* most other changes are bugfixes, follow the link for those.

Greetings, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] Black generation in cmyk output

2004-12-07 Thread Siep Kroonenberg
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 10:40:35AM +0100, Tobias Hilbricht wrote:
 Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Taco Hoekwater um 11:10:
  Just curious: why do you need a cmyk pdf document?
 
 Of course you can leave colour space conversion and colour separation to
 the printer (provided the printer has the means to do so). However, for
 full control over the print colours it is better to have a calibrated
 monitor and a document in the CMYK colourspace - then you see what the
 colours a likely to look like, and dependency on the printer is reduced.
 Agencies, which prepare graphics for advertisements, pay thousands of
 Euros to be able to control the correct outcome of corporate colours or
 skin colours, for example.
 
 Yours sincerely
 
 Tobias Hilbricht

CMYK is considered a device-dependent colorspace, which takes
press conditions into account. So you are more, not less dependent
on your printer by going for CMYK. At least, this is the theory.

Anyhow, it is a good idea to discuss color with your printshop if
color fidelity is an issue.

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Re: [NTG-context] New context Release notes

2004-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi there,
For those of you who are interested, Hans has released a new ConTeXt last 
week, and I've created a release notes pages for it here:

http://contextgarden.net/Context_2004.12.06
Highlights:
* texfont.pl is now version 2.2.1. From now on, it uses internal filename 
  globbing (using a new switch: --pattern=wildcard) instead of the shell 
  wildcard expansion. 
  Obviously, this means that the commandline has changed.
this extension is downward compatible; i added the --pattern option because on 
unix wildcards in type-*.dat runs can give funny side effects because they may 
get expanded at the shell level (depending on place and time)

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:18:43 +0100:

Adam Lindsay wrote:

But before that, TeX needs uplr8t.tfm to know how wide characters are so
it can put boxes in the right place.
but where do I get the tfm or how to create them?

Good question. I'll throw it open to the list:
Metrics for the urw clone 35 used to be commonly found everywhere. Where
have they gone?
one time they were under urw, then under urw35, now back under urw if i'm 
right
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Wolfgang Zillig
with miktex there is a path C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\urw with some subfolders, but all 
of them are empty. For example Helvetica is located 
C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\adobe\helvetic and all files starting with p.

I think that was the problem with selecting fonts on my system.
Wolfgang
Hans Hagen wrote:
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:18:43 +0100:

Adam Lindsay wrote:

But before that, TeX needs uplr8t.tfm to know how wide characters 
are so
it can put boxes in the right place.

but where do I get the tfm or how to create them?

Good question. I'll throw it open to the list:
Metrics for the urw clone 35 used to be commonly found everywhere. Where
have they gone?

one time they were under urw, then under urw35, now back under urw if 
i'm right

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Adam Lindsay
Wolfgang Zillig said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 13:15:42 +0100:

with miktex there is a path C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\urw with some subfolders,
but all 
of them are empty. For example Helvetica is located 
C:\texmf\fonts\tfm\adobe\helvetic and all files starting with p.

I think that was the problem with selecting fonts on my system.

Sigh. me too.
This is a recent change in my distro, I think.
try adding this line:
\usetypescript[adobekb][ec]

This causes the mapping from ec-uplr8a:
\starttypescript [adobekb] [ec]
 \definefontsynonym [ec-uplr8a] [pplr8t]  [encoding=ec]

...which you should have on your system.

Sorry (especially to Patrick!) for being misleading earlier. My head was
still in TeXLive mode.
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[NTG-context] recent font problems

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello out there,

OK, I am having a bad day, but that doesn't stop me posting ... 

if you (Wolfgang) have font problems: please run the code that I
mentioned in all my recent posts:

Something like:
--
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding] 
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
  
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
--

If this goes wrong: post the relevant pieces of your logfile. This is
the only way I can help. Please do not make assumptions about strange
file names and please do not send me strange typescripts that I have
never seen before (at least I forgot about them). Just run the code
and post your results. After that we can try to find the rest of the
problems.


Thanks,

Patrick
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Re: [NTG-context] New context Release notes

2004-12-07 Thread sebastian . rooks
Hello,

In http://contextgarden.net/Context_2004.12.06 :
ctxtools.rb: no understands a new option, --jeditinterface (generates syntax
 descriptions for 'jedit')

Great news for a jedit user. How could I use it ?

Thanks,

  Seb

Selon Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi there,

 For those of you who are interested, Hans has released a new ConTeXt last
 week, and I've created a release notes pages for it here:

   http://contextgarden.net/Context_2004.12.06

 Highlights:
 * texfont.pl is now version 2.2.1. From now on, it uses internal filename
   globbing (using a new switch: --pattern=wildcard) instead of the shell
   wildcard expansion.
   Obviously, this means that the commandline has changed.

 * most other changes are bugfixes, follow the link for those.

 Greetings, Taco

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Re: [NTG-context] recent font problems

2004-12-07 Thread Wolfgang Zillig
sorry if I got nerving!
the output is attached.
Regards
Wolfgang

Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hello out there,
OK, I am having a bad day, but that doesn't stop me posting ... 

if you (Wolfgang) have font problems: please run the code that I
mentioned in all my recent posts:
Something like:
--
\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding] 
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
  
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
--

If this goes wrong: post the relevant pieces of your logfile. This is
the only way I can help. Please do not make assumptions about strange
file names and please do not send me strange typescripts that I have
never seen before (at least I forgot about them). Just run the code
and post your results. After that we can try to find the rest of the
problems.
Thanks,
Patrick
(and sorry again for the bad sound of this mail)

\usetypescript [adobekb][\defaultencoding]
\usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]

\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext


cont.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: recent font problems

2004-12-07 Thread Wolfgang Zillig
Hello Patric,
So what is your next wish?
Oh,
I think I need one night to sleep over all of the font encodings,...
I hope to get the font changing now without the dirty tricks.
Best regards
Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Re: using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Adam,

[...]

 Sorry (especially to Patrick!) for being misleading earlier. My head was
 still in TeXLive mode.

Well, my head *is* in TeXLive mode. But TL 2003 (home). On garden I
use current tetex (garden). Both work fine with the adobekb
typescript. 


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: using fonts

2004-12-07 Thread Adam Lindsay
Patrick Gundlach said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:09:25 +0100:

 Sorry (especially to Patrick!) for being misleading earlier. My head was
 still in TeXLive mode.

Well, my head *is* in TeXLive mode. But TL 2003 (home). On garden I
use current tetex (garden). Both work fine with the adobekb
typescript. 

Yeah, it was TL2003, I think, where I had all the urw tfms, which was
nice. I had my focus on the berry typescripts back then, not your
excellent adobekb work.
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[NTG-context] Update ConTeXt 2004-12-06 for teTeX 2.99.4-beta: map files

2004-12-07 Thread VnPenguin
Hi all,
I have a running tetex-2.99.4-beta. Now I would like to update ConTeXt
to version 2004-12-06.
After comparing directory structures I see there is difference:

1. In ConTeXt all map files are in fonts/map/pdftex/context/*.map
2. In teTeX amm map files are in fonts/map/dvips/context/*.map

So my question is how I could update ConTeXt safely ? Which directory
structure I have to follow ? teTeX will continue to work if map files
installed in ConTeXt's structure ?

Thank you in advance,

Regards,

Quy NGUYEN-DAI
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[NTG-context] Re: Update ConTeXt 2004-12-06 for teTeX 2.99.4-beta: map files

2004-12-07 Thread VnPenguin
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 21:29:04 +0100, Thomas Esser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 So, I suggest that you
 
   unpack cont-tmf.zip in a temp directory
   rm -rf  fonts/map/pdftex/context
   rm -rf tex/latex
   cp -a * /to/your/texmf-dist

It works well !
Thank you so much for your very quick reply!
Regards,

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[NTG-context] fonts installation

2004-12-07 Thread r . ermers
Dear friends,

I ran the tests exactly as you suggested. There is something wrong with a tmf 
font but I don't understand the message.

I also looked in the file cont-sys.tex and added the line 
\autoloadmapfilestrue. It does not make any difference.

Attached the test file and the log file.

Thanks again!

Kind regards,

Robert

testhuds-con.tex
Description: TeX document


testhuds-con.log
Description: Binary data
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[NTG-context] Re: fonts installation

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Robert,

 I ran the tests exactly as you suggested. There is something wrong with a tmf 
 font but I don't understand the message.

! Font \*hudson12ptrmtf*:=ec-uplr8a at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric
  (TFM) file not found. 

The message should be clear: TeX cannot find the metric file. There
are two reasons: either the name is incorrect or TeX's internal
database has not been updated after installing the tfm files.

There is something entirely wrong here. hudson12... should not get
mapped to palatino. How does your typescripts look like? 


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[NTG-context] pdfetex can't find map files

2004-12-07 Thread Matt Gushee
Aargh!
Font problems again: after not using ConTeXt for a while, I installed 
the December 6 package today, generated formats, copied cont-sys.rme and 
texexec.rme, and so on. Since I recently upgraded my teTeX installation, 
I also edited pdftex.cfg, adding a bunch of

  map +foo
lines--though I guess that's not strictly necessary, since I have
  \autoloadmapfilestrue
in cont-sys.tex.
All my fonts and typescripts are in the same places they were before, 
and it seems they are being found; however, pdfetex seems to be unable 
to use regular TeX fonts (e.g. Computer Modern) because it can't find 
the map files installed by ConTeXt. There are a number error messages 
that look like this (representing all the ConTeXt map files, I think):

  Warning: pdfetex (file original-public-vnr.map): \
cannot open font map file
The files exist and are world-readable, so the above must mean that 
pdfetex just can't find them.

Now, I did one important thing differently from before: I installed 
ConTeXt under $TEXMFLOCAL, which on my system is /usr/local/share/texmf. 
So the map files in question are in

  /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/
And I *think* my texmf.cnf is set up correctly:
  TEXMFLOCAL = /usr/local/share/texmf
  TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
  TEXFONTMAPS = .;$TEXMF/fontname;$TEXMF/fonts/map//
% also TEXFONTMAPS.pdftex and TEXFONTMAPS.pdfetex w/ same values
  TEXINPUTS.pdftex   = .;$TEXMF/{pdftex,tex}/{plain,generic,context,}//
  TEXINPUTS.pdfetex   = \
.;$TEXMF/{pdfetex,pdftex,etex,tex}/{plain,generic,context,}//
  TEXINPUTS.context = \
.;$TEXMF/{pdftex,etex,tex}/{context,plain,generic,}//
... and so on.
So, anyone have an idea what I might have missed?
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