Re: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: Hi Taco, Thnx for working on this! I am confused about a couple of things though... There is one bbl per article, but only one (global) list of references & publications, so, for now, your bbl files need to define bib items with unique keys. I hope this is workable for now? In the examples I sent there was no global list. Are you saying that I need to > Is this right or am I not getting it?-) What I meant to say is that there is a single 'pubs' list that is shared by all the articles. This list is built up from the separate .bbl files, one per article, as before. The typesetting of the publicationlist now has \setuppublicationlist[criterium=local] and that is what ensures that only the citations within the current product are actually typeset. The one thing you have to watch out for is that when the different .bbl files define different entries that use identically named keys, then you are in trouble. Hmm, I have been treating each issue of the journal as a distinct project in itself. Maybe for the next volume I'll try the more abstract approach. But I don't understand how this issue affects the bib issue. You can simply not use project files at all, just products and components, and it will work (almost?) like it does now. Btw, if you use bibtex, then you can do \setupbibtex[sort=title] because then bibtex does the sorting for me. :-) Do I have to go back to bibtex syntax? Yes, and that's why it is not the best of ideas. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: = Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = I have uploaded a new beta for you. http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip "Not Found The requested URL /bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip was not found on this server." oops .. wrong url. http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051007.zip just run the files you sent me, and you will see what I meant That's assuming I have the url right this time :-/ Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] D R A F T on pages
Perhaps a bit simpler:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\defineoverlay[Draft][{\lightgray
\scale[factor=max]{\rotate[rotation=60]{~DRAFT~}}}]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=Draft]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
It works! Thank You :-)
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RE: [NTG-context] D R A F T on pages
>= Original Message From Peter Münster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Perhaps a bit simpler:
>
>\setupcolors[state=start]
>\defineoverlay[Draft][{\lightgray
> \scale[factor=max]{\rotate[rotation=60]{~DRAFT~}}}]
>\setupbackgrounds[page][background=Draft]
>\starttext
>\input tufte
>\stoptext
Indeed! Wonderful!!
Best
Idris
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] D R A F T on pages
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> You'll need to do 2 things:
>
> in your texmf.cnf, you have to set shellescape to "t" (don't ask me
> where that is located on a windows system, I have no idea).
>
> In cont-sys.tex, uncomment these two lines:
>
> \runMPgraphicstrue
> \runMPTEXgraphicstrue
Perhaps a bit simpler:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\defineoverlay[Draft][{\lightgray
\scale[factor=max]{\rotate[rotation=60]{~DRAFT~}}}]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=Draft]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] bib module: interaction (wish)
Hello all, and Taco in particular, I'm a great fan of interaction, and I was wondering about what kind of interaction the BibTeX module could support. I'm thinking of two of them in particular. One of them is the obvious link to list of references on click. However, I'm also a great fan of balloons, so I was thinking of something like a popup-on-hover showing the full reference, thus sparing the need to go back-and-forth through the document. (Can these things be optimized so that the popup is only stored once in the PDF?) A potential problem would be with compressed citations, but I guess that in this case making only the displayed numbers active is the right solution. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] D R A F T on pages
You'll need to do 2 things: in your texmf.cnf, you have to set shellescape to "t" (don't ask me where that is located on a windows system, I have no idea). In cont-sys.tex, uncomment these two lines: \runMPgraphicstrue \runMPTEXgraphicstrue Good luck Thomas On Oct 7, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Jilani Khaldi wrote: As you can see, the PDF file has been normaly created, but without any "DRAFT". Ciao! ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
>= Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >I have uploaded a new beta for you. > > http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip "Not Found The requested URL /bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip was not found on this server." -) Best Idris Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
RE: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
Hi Taco, Thnx for working on this! I am confused about a couple of things though... >= Original Message From Taco Hoekwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >There is one bbl per article, but only one (global) list >of references & publications, so, for now, your bbl files >need to define bib items with unique keys. I hope this is >workable for now? In the examples I sent there was no global list. Are you saying that I need to 1. move my multiple bbl files into one global bbl file; 2. if one reference is used in more than one article, then that reference must be duplicated in the global bbl file but with a different key each time. That is, if [afghani60] is used in two articles, then I must do something like \startpublication[k=afghani60-i,... \startpublication[k=afghani60-ii,... in the global file. Is this right or am I not getting it?-) >On the project structure: I believe a project file should be >pure virtual, so that: the components are the articles, the >product is the journal issue, and the project is the journals >entire lifespan. Hmm, I have been treating each issue of the journal as a distinct project in itself. Maybe for the next volume I'll try the more abstract approach. But I don't understand how this issue affects the bib issue. >Such a structure would need a different solution from the one >I have implemented now, so we may have to revisit this part >of the module in a few weeks. Is that ok? Ok, I appreciate all u've done up to now... >> 2. Can t-bib extract the references and place them in alphabetical order, or >> do I have to still organize my bbl files alphabetically by hand (I really hope >> not->)? Automatic alphabetizing bbl file data in the output has been one of my >> major wishes for t-bib. > >The current module cannot do this, because it is unfeasible to do >sorting in TeX macros. I will investigate sorting through texutil >or something similiar, but that will need more than a few days/weeks >to implement, so definately will not be ready before tuesday. That's ok, I have to work on the next issue right after the immediate (late) issue-) >Btw, if you use bibtex, then you can do > > \setupbibtex[sort=title] > >because then bibtex does the sorting for me. :-) Does this mean that I have to create a global .bib file instead of a global .bbl file? Do I have to go back to bibtex syntax? I have have been creating bbl files by hand upto now... By the way: I have been using mswincontext.zip as my stand-alone TeX installation, and no longer update fpTeX, etc. Since t-bib is a part of ConTeXt now, does it not make sense that BibTeX also be included, at least until it is no longer needed? I'll test things shortly: Thnx for all your help! Best Idris Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] A particular form of index (register) coupling
Hello,
I have a register where all the entries appear once (and
only once) in a particular form (\index[def::]{entry}) but can appear any
number of times in the standard form (\index{entry}).
I would like the particular coupling to make all standard
form entries clickable and linking to the one and only
\index[def::]{entry}.
This could be of course generalized to some kind of
couplingcommand=\command#1#2 that is user-defineable ...
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[NTG-context] \setupregister -> \setupindex
I just noticed that \setupindex is not exactly the same as \setupregister[index]; indeed, \setupindex does not allow the syntax \setupindex[form][options=values] whereas \setupregister[index][form][options=values] is valid. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] "Smart" \in
Hello all,
I have a document which is split into separate \parts. I
would like the \in command (& friends) to automatically add
the "part" reference when cross-referencing across parts.
Example:
"""
\part[part:one]{Part one}
\chapter[ch:one]{Chapter one}
\chapter[ch:two]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
\part[part:two]{Part two}
\chater[ch:2-1]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
"""
The first \in would say chapter~1, the second chapter~1,
part~1.
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[NTG-context] Automatic next indent
Hello all, and Hans in particular: Some time ago http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01744.html I had proposed a patch that added the "auto" value to some commmon indentnext options. I would *really* this to be taken into consideration. Rationale: things like formulas, itemgroups and the like (basically, everything that allows indentnext) are "displays". "Displays" are parts of the document that are embedded in a paragraph but are "put in display" by appropriate indenting & other tricks. Now, there are cases in which the paragraph continues after the display, and cases when it doesn't. So for example """ Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing and a continuation of the same paragraph with some more text and other text """ would be different from """ Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing In a separate pragraph, we have some other text """ Note that the two cases should be handled separately: in the first case, I *don't* want any indentation nor any blank line; in the second case, I might want either or both. indentnext=auto would NOT put an indent in cases like this: """ some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial still same paragraph """ but WOULD put an indent here """ some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial Different paragraph """ Hans, can you please consider it for inclusion? The patch is somewhat out of date, given the age, but the principle should be obvious. -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] bib module: author-date macros
Hi,
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
\def\citeauthoryear[#1]{%
{\setupcite[authoryears][right={)},inbetween={ }]%
\cite[authoryears][#1]%
}%
}
The beta allows:
\def\citeauthoryear[#1]{%
\cite[alternative=authoryears,right={)},inbetween={ }][#1]%
}
\def\citeauthoryearpage[#1][#2]{%
\cite[alternative=authoryears,extras={, #2}][#1]%
}
etc.
And, especially now that the syntax is that much cleaner, I don't
really want to add such convenience macros to the module.
Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order
Hi Idris, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: 1. Does t-bib now support multiple bibliographies? For past issues of the journal, I had to define a new bib-env file for each article that required a bibliography, otherwise the bibliography of, say, article two would include the bibliography for article one. Is there a general solution for this? I have uploaded a new beta for you. http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta/20051007.zip This beta should work with the example files you sent me, except that you have to delete the \input articleX.bbl lines. I'm not sure that your use of the project structure is correct, so I'm equally unsure that a definitive version should use the same solution as this beta, but for now it should be more or less ok. There is one bbl per article, but only one (global) list of references & publications, so, for now, your bbl files need to define bib items with unique keys. I hope this is workable for now? On the project structure: I believe a project file should be pure virtual, so that: the components are the articles, the product is the journal issue, and the project is the journals entire lifespan. Such a structure would need a different solution from the one I have implemented now, so we may have to revisit this part of the module in a few weeks. Is that ok? 2. Can t-bib extract the references and place them in alphabetical order, or do I have to still organize my bbl files alphabetically by hand (I really hope not->)? Automatic alphabetizing bbl file data in the output has been one of my major wishes for t-bib. The current module cannot do this, because it is unfeasible to do sorting in TeX macros. I will investigate sorting through texutil or something similiar, but that will need more than a few days/weeks to implement, so definately will not be ready before tuesday. Btw, if you use bibtex, then you can do \setupbibtex[sort=title] because then bibtex does the sorting for me. :-) If the above two are solved I can use a single master bbl file for the entire journal instead of multiple files, thus streamlinig much of my workflow. In the new beta, also removed some spurious spaces in bibl-apa.tex that sometimes created blank lines, and I've added that definition of \noopsort for Giuseppe. Cheers, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Bib-module: crossreferences
Hi Roelof,
Roelof Langman wrote:
Hi Taco,
Are crossreferences supposed to work in the new bib module? According to the
No, this doesn't work, but I believe there is a workaround by putting
\setbox\scratchbox={\hbox{\placepublications}}
just before the normal \placepublications or \completepublications.
(This works because it explicitly executes the embedded \crossref
outside of the actual publication list)
If that doesn't work or has undesired side-effects, you can do
\setbox\scratchbox={\cite[lawrence:1979]}
but that solution requires you to know the used cross references
that appear in the bib file, whereas the first solution doesn't.
I'll try to fix this in a week of so. You have to wait until
after Idris' problems are solved, because I do not enough time
right now to fix everything.
Latex companion pp. 404ff. a crossreference can be made in an @inbook to a
You do know that, generally speaking, the latex companion doesn't
apply to the bib module, right? There are rumours about ConTeXt
actually being LaTeX3, but I can assure you those are untrue :-)
In the new bibtex-module for Context, the crossreferences are resolved
properly, I think, but the crossreferenced entry is not yet included in the
reference list.
Yes, but it happens too late to allow inclusion in the list.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort
Friday, October 7, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> Hello Taco,
>>
>> would it be possible for your module to support the
>> \noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
> Sure, will do (new beta later today).
THanks.
>> For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
>> my document.
> That's wrong, I think. Should be \def\noopsort#1{}, yes?
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Re: [NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello Taco,
would it be possible for your module to support the
\noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
Sure, will do (new beta later today).
For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
my document.
That's wrong, I think. Should be \def\noopsort#1{}, yes?
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[NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort
Hello Taco,
would it be possible for your module to support the
\noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
Basically, a key like
key = {\noopsort{value1}}value2
will print as value2 but be sorted under value1 (details in
the bibtex references?
For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
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Re: [NTG-context] getvariable
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Peter, I appreciate your helping me. And I have no clue what's going
> wrong.
> On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:08 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
>
>>>
>> I'm just guessing (taken from my own pile of mistakes).
>> Hmm, is it a problem of setting the variable, or it's interpretation?
>> Can you find out, if the variable is set correctly in your \setupcrop
>> macro? Just add
>>
>> \writestatus{[CROP]}{crop mark is: \getvariable{Crop}{mark}}%
>
>
> For debugging, I've narrowed the module down to 8 lines:
>
> \def\setupcrop{\setvariables[Crop]}
>
Is that all \setupcrop does? :)
It's a bit hard for me to debug your code from parts, without seeing
all. But anyway, here is the way I would handle such stuff. Not tested!
...
% trigger for printing crop info
\newconditional\CropInfo
\def\SetupCrop{\dosingleempty\doSetupCrop}
\def\doSetupCrop[#1]{%
\iffirstargument
[EMAIL PROTECTED],info=},#1]%
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
camera=>{\setvariables[Crop][mark=camera]
\def\PageBackground{\CameraMarks}},
cross=>{\setvariables[Crop][mark=cross]
\def\PageBackground{\CrossMarks}},
default=>{\setvariables[Crop][mark=]
\def\PageBackground{}},
unknown=>{\setvariables[Crop][mark=]
\def\PageBackground{}}]%
% no need to store this into a variable
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
no=>\setfalse\CropInfo,
default=>\settrue\CropInfo,
unknown=>\settrue\CropInfo]%
\else
% \SetupCrop is called without parameters
\setvariables[Crop][mark=]
\setfalse\CropInfo
\def\PageBackground{}%
\fi
% just to give the idea...
\ifconditional\CropInfo
\setlayer[markings][x=.5\paperwidth, y=20mm, location=c]%
{\tt \txx "\jobname" - \currentdate [y,/,mm,/,dd]\ - \currenttime\ -
\realfolio\ of \lastpage}
% \else
\fi
% for debugging only
\writestatus{[CROP]}{crop mark is: \getvariable{Crop}{mark}}%
\writestatus{}{crop info is \ifconditional\CropInfo\ enabled\else\
disabled}%
}
\SetupCrop % initialisation (or \setups[namespace:reset])
...
I have no experience with the namespace mechanism Hans mentioned (will
give it a try/ add it to the wiki).
HTH,
Peter
> \setvariables[Crop][mark=cross,info=yes]
>
> \processaction[\getvariable{Crop}{mark}][
> camera =>\def\PageBackground{\CameraMarks},
> cross =>\def\PageBackground{\CrossMarks},
> default=>\def\PageBackground{},
> unknown=>\def\PageBackground{}]%
>
> \writestatus{[CROP]}{crop mark is: \getvariable{Crop}{mark}}
>
> my testfile:
>
> \usemodule[t-crop]
> \setupcrop[mark=camera,info=yes]
>
> \starttext
>
> Hello!
>
> \stoptext
>
> Output in log:
>
> (/Users/tas/Library/texmf/tex/t-crop.tex
> [CROP] : crop mark is: cross
>
> If second line of module is commented out, I get:
>
> [CROP] : crop mark is:
>
> So it's a problem of actually setting the variable.
>
>>
>>
>> The error can't hide forever ;)
>>
> Maybe it can't hide forever, but it looks like it can run...
>
> Thanks for your help. I'll be away tomorrow and will try more on the
> weekend.
>
> Best
>
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0 named destinations out of 30
5 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536
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C:\texmf\fonts\type1\bluesky\cm\cmmi12.pfb>{ec-lm.enc}
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As you can see, the PDF file has been normaly created, but without any
"DRAFT".
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// Jilani KHALDI
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[NTG-context] ASCII art inclusion
Hi to all, I'm including in a set of slides some ASCII ART. Actually I'm using start-stoptyping. E.g. \starttyping || knight || | | + \ \\.G_.*=. `(H'/.\| .>' (_--. _=/d ,^\ ~~ \)-' ' / | ' ' a:f \stoptyping Works fine, but obviously text remains text (--> large figures are splitted among different pages). I'd like to treat the ascii text lines as a unique block, just like a figure. What's the best way? Thanks a lot Best -a- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
