Re: [NTG-context] Recapitulating
Pepe Barbe wrote: After jumping through hoops, with some help I managed to get XeTeX running and using TTF fonts directly with pdfTeX. But before I go any further I would like to know what is your opinion in using one or the other. When researching a bit on XeTeX I read there were several caveates vs. using pdfTeX with LaTeX. Is this the same? In ConTeXt. What can I expect to work and what not? If TTF can be used with pdfTeX (with some effort) what is the advantage of using XeTeX with ConTeXt? by the end of the year / begin next year, pdftex will support open type natively xetex uses libraries and hooks into platform font support; pdftex will stay independent of libraries and focus on extendibility and configurability (think of scripts that demand complex solutions and different ones as well, like arab); of course the question is if in the end it makes much difference for the average user concerning context and these two ... we may end up with a common core and different subsystems and levels of support; graphics for instance can be dealt with in a way hidden from the user, as can input encodings; fonts and font features may differ but i'll try to offer a kind of generic interface to for instance open type features since the definition and control of fonts will differ per engine of course it also depends on what i use (most) and what users demand -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Recapitulating
Mojca Miklavec wrote: Apart from that the only thing that comes to my mind is the usage of (math) fonts in general. XeTeX has not been around for such a long time as pdfTeX, so if you want to set up your own font for math or whatever, you might need slightly more patience. (Latin Modern hasn't been set up yet to work in the same was as it does in pdfTeX for example.) And if you want to use the old TeX fonts, you might come accross some problems with accented letters (XeTeX doesn't know that a certain font is ec-encoded) ... etc. math is a different story - more that 16 families - unicode access 64K (where math is located) - additional (and alternative) symbol definitions - new (!) math features built into the engine pdftex and xetex are currently more or less the same; things may become different when open type math fonts show up i also expect pdftex 2 (aka luatex aka metatex) to provide new functionality, but much of that is hidden for the user and aimed at better output so, when you use pdftex and xetex mixed, you must keep in mind that the same text may be typeset diffferently due to different font handling and features To conclude it in two sentences: concentrate on content instead. You would have to think twice if you would have to decide between LaTeX and ConTeXt. The difference between documents in pdfTeX and XeTeX is only a matter of a couple of lines in setup, nothing more. yet -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and \placefigure
Jeff Smith wrote: On 8/24/06, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - You need to install ImageMagic if you don't have it yet. - My files didn't want to compile either. I deleted everything and installed ConTeXt from scratch (mswintex.zip, justtex.zip, XeTeX from W32TeX + ctxtools --update + remake formats for XeTeX). Don't ask me why it didn't work before (complained as in your case) - now it works perfectly. I've followed this thread with interest What about the windows stand-alone distribution, here? Would it be any different? I installed ImageMagick and enabled the shell-escape, but I still get the dummy boxes. hm, i only test xetex on windows (two broken macs now) and it works ok; is rlxtools called ? if not you can try rlxtools --ident somefile.jpg to see what happens btw, make sure that you use texexec --xtx somefile i.e. use dvipdfmx and not the other one Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Problem with \placefloatcaption
Hi all,
\placefigure
[none]
{}
{\startcombination
{\externalfigure[hylos]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Hylos}}
{\externalfigure[shrimp]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Shrimp III}}
\stopcombination}
returns
./src/images/hylos.jpg
figures : dimensions of ./src/images/hylos.jpg loaded from
figurefile i
tself
(./prd_phd.tuo)
! Undefined control sequence.
argument \preparednumber
\preparefullnumber #1#2#3-\analyzenumber {#1}#2#3
\ifx \numberseparator
\emp...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...e [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\doattributes {\??kj
figur...
\doplacefloatcaption ...placefloatcaptiontext [#1]
\placefloatcaptionreferenc...
l.107 ...hylos]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Hylos}
}
?
Is there a bug or a misuse of \placefloatcaption ?
Renaud
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Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX and \placefigure
Huh...lo and behold! This morning, it works. But I have done nothing?! That's really strange... but I sure won't complain. :-) One thing... But what exactly do you mean by I enabled the shell-escape? Isn't it enabled by default already (contrary to other distributions such as MikTeXt)? Yes, well... actually I just wanted to say that I had _checked_ if it were enabled, but somehow it got worded very poorly. Sorry! Anyway thanks again all, you're very helpful. Jeff Smith ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Strange math error (bug ??)
Hello,
The following is quit strange, in the first formula the [{Q}, {R} ] on the
left hand side of the \rightarrow is not processed but on the right hand
side of
the \rightarrow it is processed (?)
\starttext
The left side with $[Q,R]$ does not show, but the
right side with $[Q,R]$ does show, what is happening here ???
\startformula
[ {Q} , {R} ] \rightarrow \frac{1}{i \hslash} [ {Q} , {R} ]
\stopformula
\stoptext
Kind regards
Wim
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange math error (bug ??)
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, WN wrote:
Hello,
The following is quit strange, in the first formula the [{Q}, {R} ] on the
left hand side of the \rightarrow is not processed but on the right hand
side of
the \rightarrow it is processed (?)
\starttext
The left side with $[Q,R]$ does not show, but the
right side with $[Q,R]$ does show, what is happening here ???
\startformula
\relax
[ {Q} , {R} ] \rightarrow \frac{1}{i \hslash} [ {Q} , {R} ]
\stopformula
\stoptext
\startformula, like most commands in context, accepts an optional
argument, so [...] immediately after \startformula is gobbled. Just
add a \relax after \startformula and you should be fine.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange math error (bug ??)
On 8/25/06, WN wrote:
Hello,
The following is quit strange, in the first formula the [{Q}, {R} ] on the
left hand side of the \rightarrow is not processed but on the right hand
side of
the \rightarrow it is processed (?)
\starttext
The left side with $[Q,R]$ does not show, but the
right side with $[Q,R]$ does show, what is happening here ???
\startformula
[ {Q} , {R} ] \rightarrow \frac{1}{i \hslash} [ {Q} , {R} ]
\stopformula
\stoptext
Not a bug, but a price that you have to pay for having optional
parameters. Adding \relax after \startformula solves the problem.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with \placefloatcaption
Renaud AUBIN a crit:
Hi all,
\placefigure
[none]
{}
{\startcombination
{\externalfigure[hylos]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Hylos}}
{\externalfigure[shrimp]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Shrimp III}}
\stopcombination}
returns
./src/images/hylos.jpg
figures : dimensions of ./src/images/hylos.jpg loaded from
figurefile i
tself
(./prd_phd.tuo)
! Undefined control sequence.
argument \preparednumber
\preparefullnumber #1#2#3-\analyzenumber {#1}#2#3
\ifx \numberseparator
\emp...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...e [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\doattributes {\??kj
figur...
\doplacefloatcaption ...placefloatcaptiontext [#1]
\placefloatcaptionreferenc...
l.107 ...hylos]}{\placefloatcaption[figure]{Hylos}
}
?
Is there a bug or a misuse of \placefloatcaption ?
Renaud
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Problem solved in the beta release
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange math error (bug ??)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, WN wrote:
Hello,
The following is quit strange, in the first formula the [{Q}, {R} ] on the
left hand side of the \rightarrow is not processed but on the right hand
side of
the \rightarrow it is processed (?)
\starttext
The left side with $[Q,R]$ does not show, but the
right side with $[Q,R]$ does show, what is happening here ???
\startformula
\relax
[ {Q} , {R} ] \rightarrow \frac{1}{i \hslash} [ {Q} , {R} ]
\stopformula
\stoptext
Should have seen this coming. Thanks.
\startformula, like most commands in context, accepts an optional
argument, so [...] immediately after \startformula is gobbled. Just
add a \relax after \startformula and you should be fine.
Aditya
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[NTG-context] Mixed Case Abbreviations
Hello, Is it possible to have different cases in an abbreviation? For example mRNA. Thanks, Pepe ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] \definesomething?
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Pepe Barbe wrote:
In the ConTeXt manuales there is a reference to \definesomething as a
way to create new commands(?)/variables(?). The truth is that I
haven't bee able to truly understand if this is a generic example or I
can define my own commands with this and how the syntax would be used.
I would appreciate if anyone can clarify this to me.
You can use if for almost anything you want. This is how \define is
defined :)
\def\define#1%
{\ifx#1\undefined
\expandafter\def
\else
\message{[\noexpand#1is already defined]}%
\expandafter\def\expandafter\gobbleddefinition
\fi#1}
Which basically means that
\define\mymacro#1 is equivalent to
\def\mymacro#1 but also checks if mymacro has already been defined.
In general, it is a good idea to use \define for all your private
macros to make sure that you do not redefine one of context's internal
macros. Another way to ensure the same thing is to use CAPS for all
your private macros. If you really want to redefine a macro that is
already defined, you should use
\redefine\macro
you can also use \def\macro but \redefine gives you a warning
message.
Aditya
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