Re: [NTG-context] [ot] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
luigi scarso wrote:
 Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
 Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .

Congratulations!

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] [ot] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Oliver Buerschaper
Congratulations, Luigi!

Oliver



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[NTG-context] luatex wiki

2007-08-10 Thread luigi scarso
Just to propagate informations:

Yannis Haralambous, Ph.D.  Professor
(http://omega.enstb.org/yannis )

has created this wiki for luatex :

http://luatex.bluwiki.com/


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[NTG-context] also install problems (luatex)

2007-08-10 Thread WolfgangZ

Hi,

I also don't manage to install luatex. I've downloaded the mswincontext 
and unzipped it to c:\context

1. I run setuptex
2. texexec --make --all --luatex
(no output on the command line)
3. luatools --generate
the output is attached below
4. luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en
the logfile is attached as well

when I now try to compile a file texexec --verbose --luatex 
demo-tex.tex gives no output to the command line and also no pdf.


What do I miss? Any help is welcome.

Wolfgang





output of luatools --generate:

LuaTools | loading C:/context/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | preparing configuration in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4

d29da09b61573facbe2412d6/trees/7dbf38777f3ccb5b0aa565d63d610cba.tma
LuaTools | saving configuration in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29

da09b61573facbe2412d6/trees/7dbf38777f3ccb5b0aa565d63d610cba.tma
LuaTools | compiling configuration to 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4

d29da09b61573facbe2412d6/trees/7dbf38777f3ccb5b0aa565d63d610cba.tmc
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf-mswin
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf-project
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | locating list of C:/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | scanning path C:/context/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | 532 files found on 45 directories
LuaTools | scanning path C:/context/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | 1475 files found on 138 directories
LuaTools | scanning path C:/context/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | 19 files found on 17 directories
LuaTools | scanning path C:/context/tex/texmf
LuaTools | 5167 files found on 197 directories
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/2158914af1375d1927bd588f60e574a9.tma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b615

73facbe2412d6/trees/2158914af1375d1927bd588f60e574a9.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/2158914af1375d1927bd588f60e574a9.tmc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/fdf3b5ef3615ec0d3748717b3083bf70.tma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b615

73facbe2412d6/trees/fdf3b5ef3615ec0d3748717b3083bf70.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/fdf3b5ef3615ec0d3748717b3083bf70.tmc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/5034ac9f9b8a3a15480b7c504459c7b2.tma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b615

73facbe2412d6/trees/5034ac9f9b8a3a15480b7c504459c7b2.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/5034ac9f9b8a3a15480b7c504459c7b2.tmc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/b3d332474d5e937802e53719e5cfa153.tma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b615

73facbe2412d6/trees/b3d332474d5e937802e53719e5cfa153.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/temp/luatex-cache/context/a713a4d4d29da09b

61573facbe2412d6/trees/b3d332474d5e937802e53719e5cfa153.tmc
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 1.792 seconds
This is luaTeX, Version 3.141592-beta-0.10.1-2007080810 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX)  
9 AUG 2007 11:00
**C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex \dump
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-pln.tex
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\hideskip=\skip10
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\interdisplaylinepenalty=\count23
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\normallineskiplimit=\dimen13
\jot=\dimen14
\mscount=\count25
\tabs=\box11
\tabsyet=\box12
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(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/luat-env.tex) 
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(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-cat.tex 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-cat.mkiv)) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-etx.tex) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-pdt.tex) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-omg.tex) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-xtx.tex) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-mtx.tex) 
(C:/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/base/syst-gen.tex
loading : Context System Macros / General
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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.
 
 \starttext
 
 \dorecurse{10}
 {
 \input tufte
 \startformula
   E = mc^2
 \stopformula
 \par
 }
 
 \stoptext

i have to look into it (i remember that there was a problem with display 
(more nodes dus to directional stuff)

anyhow, the whole spacing model will be redone in mkiv (framework is 
there already)

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Re: [NTG-context] obtaining luatex

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
  The link http://www.luatex.org/binaries/osx-mixed/luatex.tar.bz2;
 
   By the way, I really think you should call this binary “universal”:

ok, done, but it does not make the link more valid -)

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:47:21 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mtxrun.cmd bin:Acrobat.lnk --pattern=show*.pdf

Ok, now I get 2 different messages from Acrobat; the previous one plus a  
second:

The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect

I also tried


 mtxrun.cmd bin:pdfopen.exe --file showcase.pdf
pdfopen: non existent file showcase.pdf
pdfopen: mandatory `--file' argument not found.


So the tree is certainly not being searched by mtxrun.cmd bin:

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote:
 Hans Hagen schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,

 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a

 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

 So maybe you have the same problem?

 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

 stupid me. this is otf :)

 http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html
 the lm 12 file says ...

   [design_size]=0,
   [familyname]=LMRoman12,
   [fontname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
   [fullname]=LMRoman12-Regular,

 so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

 i see. which format is used for design_size? i tried 12, but i still
 get 10pt. 12pt gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use
 texluac, right? :D
 
 also: why are the t1 variants used in math mode (E =mc2)? italic (all
 but equal sign) and roman (=).

dunno, math modes uses tfm files; also, there have been some fixes to 
tfm/vf loading in mkiv as well as luatex itself .. best check after an 
update

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote:
 Hans Hagen schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,

 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a

 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

 So maybe you have the same problem?

 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

 stupid me. this is otf :)

 http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html
 the lm 12 file says ...

   [design_size]=0,
   [familyname]=LMRoman12,
   [fontname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
   [fullname]=LMRoman12-Regular,

 so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

 i see. which format is used for design_size? i tried 12, but i still
 get 10pt. 12pt gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use
 texluac, right? :D

120

but there's also a problem in the loader (in font-otf)


 local designsize = data.designsize or data.design_size or 100
 if designsize == 0 then
 designsize = 100
 end
 tfm.designsize = (designsize/10)*65536




i'll upload a new zip later

i made a mechanism that can 'repair fonts' so lm is fixed (well, the 
error is intercepted

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
 dunno, i suppose that you can mtxrun bin:cow.lnk cow.pdf but i didn't
 test that (no links and need for links here)

Mixed results:


mtxrun.cmd bin:Acrobat.lnk file:showcase.pdf


This opens Acrobat correctly (yay!)

But...

... This file cannot be found

so mtx is not searching the entire tree for the file?

Also:


texmfstart  bin:scite file:context.tex


does nothing. No error message, just returns the prompt. Also:


mtxrun.cmd  bin:scite file:context.tex
 'scite' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


So maybe these commands are not searching the tree?

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:46:57 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well, if it's part of the tree ...


 But what if it's not part of the tree? For example

 Acrobat.lnk  cow.pdf

 Now you will say, Why not use texmfstart --file=showcase.pdf
 --program=context

 Answer: Because texmfstart always resizes the acrobat window, and I want
 to keep the relative positions of my editor and viewer the same at all
 times. (of course showcase.pdf is full screen-mode but the restore
 position is still resized). This is also why I don't use the --autopdf
 option.

 If one opens Acrobat with a link file this does not happen: the relative
 position generally stays the same as when it was last closed. If I make
 LNK executable in System Properties then I can use the following batch  
 file

 Acrobat.lnk %*

 which will start its argument without resizing the window. So what I
 need is a batch file such that, from a console, I can say

 Acrobat.bat cow.pdf

 and C:\context will be searched for the file.

 How can I do this?

 I hope this is clearer. I wrote the question more abstractly because
 there could be many programs one may want to operate on the context  
 tree.


 mtxrun --launch cow.pdf

===
mtxrun --launch cow.pdf
Error in lua file loading: C:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:3055:
attempt to index local 'filename' (a nil value)
===

Also, I don't see how this relates to the resizing issue. Is there an  
option to mtxrun that, say, launches the pdf through the LNK shortcut  
instead of the EXE.? I saw the following lines in conedt.ini:


Acrobat Reader
  Acrobat Reader
%P
%$('AcroRead'); %P\%N.pdf
Acrobat Reader
%P\%N.pdf


Is this where texmfstart gets its launch information for --autopdf etc? Or  
am I supposed to leave these alone?

Best
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[NTG-context] Batch files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Adrian Drury
I read the list in digest form - sorry my response won't be threaded in
properly!

How about this for your question, Idris? Pure DOS batch file stuff. I tested
it with notepad instead of Acrobat, but I assume it should be close to
working as shown here.


@ echo off

IF %1== GOTO NOARG

for /R C:\context %%n IN (.) DO IF EXIST %%n\%1 (
Echo Found %%n\%1
start Acrobat.lnk %%n\%1
GOTO END
)

:NOTFOUND
echo Couldn't find %1
GOTO END

:NOARG
echo Specify a file name to find

:END
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Re: [NTG-context] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Münster
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

 Here is what I can offer to the community :-)
 
 http://fun.contextgarden.net/patrick_konrad.jpg
 
 (will go away soon)

You could also add it to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Future_ConTeXt_Users
;-)

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
 the lm 12 file says ...

   [design_size]=0,
 
   Huh huh, same here. Actually all my cached fonts have design_size = 0
 (I have most of the LM fonts, a couple of Gyre families and Adobe Caslon).

that's bad, normally we default to 10pt, which is ok, but for lm ...

i'll cook up a trick

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 the lm 12 file says ...
 
   [design_size]=0,

  Huh huh, same here. Actually all my cached fonts have design_size = 0
(I have most of the LM fonts, a couple of Gyre families and Adobe Caslon).
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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Hamid Kamrani wrote:
 That is a pretty interesting ConTeXt question. I mean it makes a
 laudable effort to bring ConTeXt into its context!!
 
 On 8/9/07, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear gang,

 To all you expert script writers and batch wizards on Windows, I have a
 question:

 I want to create a batch file to open a program so that it will search the
 contents of C:\ConTeXt, which contains my entire system, including
 subdirectories. For example, if foo.tex is a file in C:\ConTeXt, and
 goo.exe is some program, then for

 goo.bat foo.tex
 I want goo to seach C:\ConTeXt for foo.tex. Is there a straightforward way
 to edit the following to get this effect?

 
 rem batch file

 goo %
 

 Any pointers will be appreciated.

well, if it's part of the tree ...

texmfstart  bin:scite file:context.tex

or

texmfstart --edit file:texmf.cnf

or
mtxrun 

or

.

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Aditya,

Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
to date). Using your example, I now get a

12pt text font with pdftex and
10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

So maybe you have the same problem?

If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
Type: Type1 (CID)
Encoding: Identity-H

Strange. Maybe only some messy font setup on my system.

Peter

 \starttext
 
 \dorecurse{10}
 {
 \input tufte
 \startformula
   E = mc^2
 \stopformula
 \par
 }
 
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV

2007-08-10 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Wednesday, August 8, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
 
 has to do with unix where the shebang line will only work with texlua
 since luatex --luaonly cannot be given, but there it's a symlink
 
 Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as
 shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work
 on most modern installations.

Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and
tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations.

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Re: [NTG-context] [ot] relax

2007-08-10 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Quoting luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
 Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .
 luigi

Congratulations.

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Re: [NTG-context] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Luigi!

 Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
 Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .

Congrats! Another future ConTeXt user! Nice pic! Lots of hair. 

Here is what I can offer to the community :-)

http://fun.contextgarden.net/patrick_konrad.jpg

(will go away soon)

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Re: [NTG-context] tikz

2007-08-10 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 8/9/07, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 Dear gang,

 The tikz module does not work in MKIV: Moving

 \tex\latex\xkeyval

 to

 \tex\context\pgf\latex\xkeyval

 seems to solve the problem.

I'm sorry. That has been reported long ago, but I forgot to upload
the new version. TikZ on the garden is now fixed and at the latest
version (1.18).

Mojca

PS: xkeyval is under tex/generic, which has been recently fixed in
TeXLive repository as well. And thanks for the wishes :)
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Re: [NTG-context] setting up mswincontext pathes for external use

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
 Hello,
 
From itegrated SciTe everything in Windows stand-alone context distribution 
works OK. 
 
 But I want to run binaries using an external shell, and use another editor. 
 
 I lack path settings. Hans told me that setuptex.bat take care about pathes, 
 but after I run it nothing happens -- even texexec is not in path. The help 
 inside is in unknown language :) How to setup the paths?

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,
 
 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a
 
 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).
 
 So maybe you have the same problem?
 
 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:
 
 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

stupid me. this is otf :)

http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

 Strange. Maybe only some messy font setup on my system.
 
 Peter
 
 \starttext

 \dorecurse{10}
 {
 \input tufte
 \startformula
   E = mc^2
 \stopformula
 \par
 }

 \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 dunno, i suppose that you can mtxrun bin:cow.lnk cow.pdf but i didn't
 test that (no links and need for links here)
 
 Mixed results:
 
 
 mtxrun.cmd bin:Acrobat.lnk file:showcase.pdf
 
 
 This opens Acrobat correctly (yay!)
 
 But...
 
 ... This file cannot be found
 
 so mtx is not searching the entire tree for the file?

it should it if it's in the tree

mtxrun.cmd bin:Acrobat.lnk --pattern=show*.pdf


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Re: [NTG-context] [ot] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, August 10, 2007 luigi scarso wrote:

 Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
 Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .

Congratulazioni! :) Ora comincia il bello ...

Congratulations! :) Now the fun starts ...

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote:
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,

 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a

 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

 So maybe you have the same problem?

 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

 stupid me. this is otf :)
 
 http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html

the lm 12 file says ...

  [design_size]=0,
  [familyname]=LMRoman12,
  [fontname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
  [fullname]=LMRoman12-Regular,

so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,

 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a

 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

 So maybe you have the same problem?

 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

 stupid me. this is otf :)

 http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html
 
 the lm 12 file says ...
 
   [design_size]=0,
   [familyname]=LMRoman12,
   [fontname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
   [fullname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
 
 so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

i see. which format is used for design_size? i tried 12, but i still
get 10pt. 12pt gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use
texluac, right? :D

also: why are the t1 variants used in math mode (E =mc2)? italic (all
but equal sign) and roman (=).


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Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKIV and MKII

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
 Hans Hagen schrieb:
 Peter Rolf wrote:
 Peter Rolf schrieb:
 Hi Aditya,

 Aditya Mahajan schrieb:
 Quoting Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Hi,

 I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks)
 while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create
 minimal example exhibiting such problems?
 indeed
 Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more.

 in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up
 to date). Using your example, I now get a

 12pt text font with pdftex and
 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode).

 So maybe you have the same problem?

 If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my
 prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is
 used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex:

 lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset)
 Type: Type1 (CID)
 Encoding: Identity-H

 stupid me. this is otf :)

 http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html
 the lm 12 file says ...

   [design_size]=0,
   [familyname]=LMRoman12,
   [fontname]=LMRoman12-Regular,
   [fullname]=LMRoman12-Regular,

 so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt

 i see. which format is used for design_size? i tried 12, but i still
 get 10pt. 12pt gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use
 texluac, right? :D
 
 120

makes sense

 but there's also a problem in the loader (in font-otf)
 
 
  local designsize = data.designsize or data.design_size or 100

it took me a minute to see, that the 'or 100' is not obsolete. lua is
tricky and a bit nuts.

  if designsize == 0 then
  designsize = 100
  end
  tfm.designsize = (designsize/10)*65536

 
 
 
 i'll upload a new zip later

ok. i'll retest the example then.

 i made a mechanism that can 'repair fonts' so lm is fixed (well, the 
 error is intercepted

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:54:14 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to create a batch file to open a program so that it will search  
 the
 contents of C:\ConTeXt, which contains my entire system, including
 subdirectories. For example, if foo.tex is a file in C:\ConTeXt, and
 goo.exe is some program, then for

 goo.bat foo.tex
 I want goo to seach C:\ConTeXt for foo.tex. Is there a straightforward  
 way
 to edit the following to get this effect?

 
 rem batch file

 goo %
 

 Any pointers will be appreciated.

 well, if it's part of the tree ...


But what if it's not part of the tree? For example

 Acrobat.lnk  cow.pdf

Now you will say, Why not use texmfstart --file=showcase.pdf  
--program=context

Answer: Because texmfstart always resizes the acrobat window, and I want  
to keep the relative positions of my editor and viewer the same at all  
times. (of course showcase.pdf is full screen-mode but the restore  
position is still resized). This is also why I don't use the --autopdf  
option.

If one opens Acrobat with a link file this does not happen: the relative  
position generally stays the same as when it was last closed. If I make  
LNK executable in System Properties then I can use the following batch file

Acrobat.lnk %*

which will start its argument without resizing the window. So what I need  
is a batch file such that, from a console, I can say

Acrobat.bat cow.pdf

and C:\context will be searched for the file.

How can I do this?

I hope this is clearer. I wrote the question more abstractly because there  
could be many programs one may want to operate on the context tree.

Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in ConTeXt

2007-08-10 Thread Pascal de Bruijn
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 16:36 -0400, John R. Culleton wrote:
 On Tuesday 07 August 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
  Hans van der Meer wrote:
   On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:16, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
   Does LuaTeX already support OpenType things like
   SmallCaps, Old Style Figures, Alternates, Ligatures, etc?
  
   Yes. Best read the magazine has mentioned, and lookup
   \definefontfeature.
  
  http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0012.pdf
  
   I seem not to be able to reach/allowed on this link.
   Nor did I find it in the download/magazine section of the pragma
   site. How do I get this?
 
  it's really there
 
  Hans
 
 I should mention that when I (involuntarily) changed Cable ISPs I lost 
 the ability to transmit mail directly to this list.  ntg.nl is 
 apparently not in their DNS server.  So I must transmit posts here 
 via my wexfordpress.com mail server maintained by doteasy.com, a 
 Canadian company.  Perhaps the other person is having a similar 
 difficulty basd on domain name servers. 

This means your ISPs DNS servers are broken. Not having a domain is just
not possible, without something being very broken, or being
intentionally (mis)configured.

You should complain at your ISP...

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Re: [NTG-context] Batch Files and texmf

2007-08-10 Thread Hans Hagen
Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:54:14 -0600, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I want to create a batch file to open a program so that it will 
 search the
 contents of C:\ConTeXt, which contains my entire system, including
 subdirectories. For example, if foo.tex is a file in C:\ConTeXt, and
 goo.exe is some program, then for

 goo.bat foo.tex
 I want goo to seach C:\ConTeXt for foo.tex. Is there a 
 straightforward way
 to edit the following to get this effect?

 
 rem batch file

 goo %
 

 Any pointers will be appreciated.

 well, if it's part of the tree ...
 
 
 But what if it's not part of the tree? For example
 
 Acrobat.lnk  cow.pdf
 
 Now you will say, Why not use texmfstart --file=showcase.pdf 
 --program=context
 
 Answer: Because texmfstart always resizes the acrobat window, and I want 
 to keep the relative positions of my editor and viewer the same at all 
 times. (of course showcase.pdf is full screen-mode but the restore 
 position is still resized). This is also why I don't use the --autopdf 
 option.
 
 If one opens Acrobat with a link file this does not happen: the relative 
 position generally stays the same as when it was last closed. If I make 
 LNK executable in System Properties then I can use the following batch file
 
 Acrobat.lnk %*
 
 which will start its argument without resizing the window. So what I 
 need is a batch file such that, from a console, I can say
 
 Acrobat.bat cow.pdf
 
 and C:\context will be searched for the file.
 
 How can I do this?
 
 I hope this is clearer. I wrote the question more abstractly because 
 there could be many programs one may want to operate on the context tree.


mtxrun --launch cow.pdf


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