Re: [NTG-context] em = slanted?

2007-08-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic?
> (I found this while  setting up my own typescript for luatex.)

I don't know the reason for difference in defaults, but it can be 
changed:

\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]

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Re: [NTG-context] em = slanted?

2007-08-11 Thread luigi scarso
On 8/12/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic?
hmm, try
\starttext
aXX {\it aXX {\em aXX}} \em aXX
\stoptext

Do you see the difference between first \em and second \em ?
\em stands for emphasize, so if surrounding texts is italic \em switch to roman.
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[NTG-context] mimimal typescripting

2007-08-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello,

I'm wondering why before defining a typeface I must define a synonym for it. 
For example, my minimal working definition for Vladimir Script fontface is

\starttypescript [serif] [vladimirscript]
\definefontsynonym [Serif][name:vladimir][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [vladimirscript]
\definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [vladimirscript] [default]
\stoptypescript

Being XeTeX-adherent, it is a pain for me write that all for every font I use. 
Why I cannot specify it as simply as

\starttypescript [vladimirscript]
\definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default]
\stoptypescript

or better just

\definetypeface [vladimirscript] [rm] [serif] [name:vladimir] [default]

without any synonyms?

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[NTG-context] em = slanted?

2007-08-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hello,

Just a question for my curiousity: why \em switches to Slanted, not Italic?
(I found this while  setting up my own typescript for luatex.)

Best,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in ConTeXt

2007-08-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi Pascal,

> I adjusted it to my own situation (AGaramondPro, not the Premier
> version). And I ran it succesfully. However, I can't see where the files
> have gone?

They end up in a directory called texmf in the local directory, unless
you have given the command line to change this directory (see --help)

>  Compiling my .tex file also doesn't change anything.

See the file example.tex in the texmf directory.

> Besides this I also noticed the script didn't support Semibold, which to
> me is very essential. The Bold version of AGaramondPro doesn't have any
> small caps, and Semibold just looks beter.

Well, semibold is not supported, unless you drop bold and
use semibold instead. If you insist, I will have a look at this.

> And if I understand the script correctly, the font in converted into
> static versions supporting OsF and Sc, right?

Right.

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Re: [NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread zs
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:58:43 +0200
"luigi scarso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/11/07, zs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I've updated context by way recommended in mag-0012.
> > I've set env. variables  (env | grep TEX):
> > TEXMFCACHE=/tmp
> > TEXMF={/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf}
> hmm, it seems a mixed with an official texlive. I had bad experience
> with this mix.
> I prefear separation, something like
> 1) mkdir /usr/local/contextMKiv
> 2) unzip  justtex.zip and linuxtex.zip from pragma site under
> /usr/local/contextMKiv
> 3) set TMP inside setuptex (eg. TMP=~./contextMKiv)
> 4) cd /usr/local/contextMKiv/tex && . setuptex
> 5) mktexlsr && luatools --generate && texmfstart texexec --make --all
> --luatex I have compiled luatex from source , in my linux box there
> was a floating error you must have lua5.1 already installed, of course

You are right, it is mixed. Installation you recommends seems to work.

I've also compiled luatex and lua from source. After some experiments
with new context installation I'll try to replace binaries by compiled
ones.

Thanks

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Re: [NTG-context] Booktabs equivalent in Context

2007-08-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

>> Is there something like \arraystretch(?) which is a factor that every
>> vertical whitespace in a table is multiplied with? 

> If you are happy with an integer scaling, [...]

cool, this is very nice!

Thanks,

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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in ConTeXt

2007-08-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello Wolfgang,

> The otftotfm documentation is exemplary!

It is, indeed.

> I would like to volunteer to help writing such docs for texfont or
> otfinstall. But it is very difficult to get the information. Not all 
> of us are able to read sourcecode in perl and ruby and lua.

Well, as propably many tools around, otfinstall is a tool which arose
for my personal needs. As soon as it worked, I stopped putting
time into it. If I can see any demand, I will pick it up again. But
there is luatex/mkiv waiting behind the corner. Then all this will be
obsolete anyway. So in my (and a some other people's elses) opinion,
putting any non-trivial effort in pdftex/mkii based solutions is a
waste of time. Better install luatex and write a font guide for
luatex.


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Re: [NTG-context] Booktabs equivalent in Context

2007-08-11 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hi,

> Here is another attempt, which I feel is the cleanest way to go about
> this whole thing. Right now the skip between the columns is not
> configurable, but it should be possible to use the get the value of
> the skip.

I'd love to see a cmidrule from column n to column m where n + 1 > m
and then trimmed right.

I know, I know, I am demanding, but since we're at it :-)

Perhaps Hans has a solution in his magic bag.

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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in ConTeXt

2007-08-11 Thread Hans Hagen
John R. Culleton wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 August 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>> well, i still use texfont for type 1 fonts, but for open type
>> i use luatex anyway which can handle it directly (actually,
>> mkiv also usese afm files instead of tfm when available, so
>> texfont is not needed any more)
> How stable/reliable is LuaTeX for general use?
 Well, "not at all" is the wisest answer I can give.
>>> Is it possible to run both (mkiv/LuaTeX and mkii/pdfTeX) in
>>> parallel?
>> Certainly. In the past year, I have been happy running all of these
>> at the same time:
>>
>>  texexec  | texexec --pdftex  % engine=pdftex
>>  texexec --aleph  % engine=aleph
>>  texexec --luatex % engine=luatex
>>  texexec --xetex  % engine=xetex
> 
> Is there a phrase or a sentence that will describe the distinguishing 
> characteristcs and/or status of each of these choices?  Well, we know 
> about the first one :<) I am bewildered by the rapid changes. 

pdftex : traditional tex engine, extended with some functionality
aleph  : wide font multidirectional tex engine with input parsing
xetex  : unicode tex engine with open type support based on libs
luatex : unicode tex engine with embedded scripting machinery

luatex has pdftex and aleph as starting point and depends on lua code 
for advanced font (etc) support

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Re: [NTG-context] Use of standard font engines on Linux

2007-08-11 Thread Hans Hagen
John R. Culleton wrote:
> Linux distros have been emphasizing the use of the fonts in fc-cache 
> across applications. TeX always did its own thing, with tfm files, 
> mapping files  etc.   I note that some of the newer TeX products are 
> using  pfb + afm instead of pfb + tfm.  Does this presage the 
> availablity of all the fonts described in the fc-cache files or will 
> TeX continue to have its own set of fonts?

i never looked into fc-cache things (mostly working on windows)

pdftex does not use databases, xetex does, and in luatex one can build 
any kind of font database support; currently in mkiv i just build a 
database based on osfontdir plus the usual paths; i can support other 
'font resources as well' if needed

tfm files are very special to tex and not relevant for other apps (apart 
from the fact that there can be tens of thousands of those metric files)

in mkiv there is support for otf/ttf/ttc, afm/pfb (i will implement an 
alternative loader, the current one is afm driven, but we can also have 
a pfb driven one) as well as ofm/tfm/ovf/vf metric files

there will always be tfm files but new fonts will be open type (lm, 
gyre, etc)

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Re: [NTG-context] \relax

2007-08-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 8/10/07, luigi scarso wrote:
> Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
> Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .
> luigi

On 8/11/07, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> [ ... and at the same time, on the other side of the Alps ... ]
>
> Pius was born on thursday, August 09 2007 (09/08/07) -- at 18:36h.
>
> Oh, happy day!
>
> The same here, Mum and baby are alright, daddy busy with handling
> Rosa (5 years) and Floris (3 years)
> [thus no photo yet, sorry].

On 8/10/07, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
> > Here is what I can offer to the community :-)
> >
> > http://fun.contextgarden.net/patrick_konrad.jpg
> >
> > (will go away soon)
>
> You could also add it to http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Future_ConTeXt_Users
> ;-)
>
> Cheers, Peter

Congratulations to all the happy fathers and mothers!

So for the (Alpine) ConTeXt meeting next year (hopefully with a better
weather than this year):
 kindergarten reservations for 20-25th August will be collected on
 contextgarden then :)

Just let me know in advance :)

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Use of standard font engines on Linux

2007-08-11 Thread John R. Culleton
Linux distros have been emphasizing the use of the fonts in fc-cache 
across applications. TeX always did its own thing, with tfm files, 
mapping files  etc.   I note that some of the newer TeX products are 
using  pfb + afm instead of pfb + tfm.  Does this presage the 
availablity of all the fonts described in the fc-cache files or will 
TeX continue to have its own set of fonts?
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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in ConTeXt

2007-08-11 Thread John R. Culleton
On Wednesday 08 August 2007, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
>  well, i still use texfont for type 1 fonts, but for open type
>  i use luatex anyway which can handle it directly (actually,
>  mkiv also usese afm files instead of tfm when available, so
>  texfont is not needed any more)
> >>>
> >>> How stable/reliable is LuaTeX for general use?
> >>
> >> Well, "not at all" is the wisest answer I can give.
> >
> > Is it possible to run both (mkiv/LuaTeX and mkii/pdfTeX) in
> > parallel?
>
> Certainly. In the past year, I have been happy running all of these
> at the same time:
>
>   texexec  | texexec --pdftex  % engine=pdftex
>   texexec --aleph  % engine=aleph
>   texexec --luatex % engine=luatex
>   texexec --xetex  % engine=xetex

Is there a phrase or a sentence that will describe the distinguishing 
characteristcs and/or status of each of these choices?  Well, we know 
about the first one :<) I am bewildered by the rapid changes. 

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Re: [NTG-context] Again: [ot] \relax

2007-08-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> [ ... and at the same time, on the other side of the Alps ... ]
> 
> 
> Pius was born on thursday, August 09 2007 (09/08/07) -- at 18:36h.

Congratulations for you as well!

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[NTG-context] Again: [ot] \relax

2007-08-11 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
[ ... and at the same time, on the other side of the Alps ... ]


Pius was born on thursday, August 09 2007 (09/08/07) -- at 18:36h.

Oh, happy day!

The same here, Mum and baby are alright, daddy busy with handling  
Rosa (5 years) and Floris (3 years)
[thus no photo yet, sorry].



All the best to you Luigi  and your family!!!

It's nice to know that we ConTeXters share even these wonderful  
experiences.


Love,
Steffen



Am 10.08.2007 um 06:16 schrieb luigi scarso:

> Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
> Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .
> luigi
> 

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Re: [NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread luigi scarso
On 8/11/07, zs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I've updated context by way recommended in mag-0012.
> I've set env. variables  (env | grep TEX):
> TEXMFCACHE=/tmp
> TEXMF={/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf}
hmm, it seems a mixed with an official texlive. I had bad experience
with this mix.
I prefear separation, something like
1) mkdir /usr/local/contextMKiv
2) unzip  justtex.zip and linuxtex.zip from pragma site under
/usr/local/contextMKiv
3) set TMP inside setuptex (eg. TMP=~./contextMKiv)
4) cd /usr/local/contextMKiv/tex && . setuptex
5) mktexlsr && luatools --generate && texmfstart texexec --make --all --luatex
I have compiled luatex from source , in my linux box there was a floating error
you must have lua5.1 already installed, of course
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Re: [NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
zs wrote:
> Hi all.

> This is luaTeX, Version 3.141592-snapshot-2007080810 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> (INITEX) (/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex !
> I can't find file `context.tex'. l.16 \input context.tex
> 
> Can anybody help me to sort this out.

Like you said, this is a bit weird since luatools has no trouble finding
the file. How did you create the luatex binary? (my current guess is
that it is based on outdated sources, as the banner line should have
included 'beta-0.10' in the version string)

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread zs
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:28:17 +0200
"luigi scarso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> try
> mktexlsr
> luatools --generate


... has no effect. Result of "luatools --ini --compile --verbose
cont-en" is the same.

It is strange that "luatools context.tex" can find it.


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Re: [NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread luigi scarso
try
mktexlsr
luatools --generate
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[NTG-context] can't find file `context.tex'

2007-08-11 Thread zs
Hi all.

I've updated context by way recommended in mag-0012.
I've set env. variables  (env | grep TEX):
TEXMFCACHE=/tmp
TEXMF={/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf}
TEXMFCNF={/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/web2c,/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c}

If I run:
luatools context.tex
I get:
/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/context.tex

The command:
luatools --ini --compile --verbose cont-en
ends with error message:

LuaTools | version 1.1.1 - 2006+ - PRAGMA ADE / CONTEXT 

LuaTools | skipping configuration
for /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/web2c
from 
/tmp/luatex-cache/context/892bdbf68d574f1472c0c2a0dcccac69/trees/45016b2bec096137ef905785b0b02d6a
LuaTools | loading configuration
for /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c
from 
/tmp/luatex-cache/context/892bdbf68d574f1472c0c2a0dcccac69/trees/6da32d2ec193ac6d2428d020ce069374
LuaTools | locating list of /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local LuaTools |
locating list of /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf LuaTools | locating list
of /usr/local/texlive/2007 LuaTools | loading files
for /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local
from 
/tmp/luatex-cache/context/892bdbf68d574f1472c0c2a0dcccac69/trees/1f08e3a96247a4bd25d903ca1cb00c0e
LuaTools | loading files for /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf
from 
/tmp/luatex-cache/context/892bdbf68d574f1472c0c2a0dcccac69/trees/2adb941cffe60c990191225deee5cf98
LuaTools | creating initialization file cont-en LuaTools | using
library path : /usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base LuaTools
| using lua libraries: l-string.lua l-table.lua l-boolean.lua
l-number.lua l-unicode.lua l-md5.lua l-os.lua l-io.lua l-file.lua
l-dir.lua l-utils.lua l-tex.lua luat-lib.lua luat-inp.lua luat-tmp.lua
luat-zip.lua luat-tex.lua LuaTools | using compiled initialization file
cont-en.luc LuaTools | using lua initialization file cont-en.luc
LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini --lua="cont-en.luc"
"/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex" \dump
This is luaTeX, Version 3.141592-snapshot-2007080810 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(INITEX) (/usr/local/texlive/texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-en.tex !
I can't find file `context.tex'. l.16 \input context.tex



Can anybody help me to sort this out.


ZS
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Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV

2007-08-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, August 10, 2007 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>
>> Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as
>> shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work
>> on most modern installations.

> Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and
> tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations.

Oh right, env. Well, it works on my system even with env,
but I know, I'm just lucky :)

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