Re: [NTG-context] on block quotes
Dear Wolfgang, Thank you for your improvements and corrections. I always appreciate your lessons! Best wishes Idris I think this is a goog idea but your definition is a little bit to long. \definedelimitedtext [blockquote][quote] \startvariables all blockquote: blockquote \stopvariables \definedelimitedtext [\v!blockquote][\v!quotation] \setupdelimitedtext [blockquote] [location=margin, left=, right=, leftmargin=standard, ] \setupdelimitedtext [\v!blockquote] [\c!left=, \c!right=] location=margin is a default value and set with \definedelimitedtext and leftmargin=standard is taken from quotation. I'm working on a context utility that I want to distribute when done and we need a standard, quotes-empty blockquote mechanism. This way we can leave \quote and \quotation alone. Best wishes Idris Wolfgang -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] doc at minimals
On 11/8/07, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Just discovered http://minimals.contextgarden.net/doc Those man pages are taken from TeX Live. Sanjoy has updated them for TeX Live 2007, so that's not anything new. (But manpages are still missing, at least for luatools and mktxrun. Volunteers welcome :) That's not possible, it doesn't exist ... I also wonder how you managed to discover them almost after they have been removed :) I doubt they were there for more than half an hour :) Someone is trying to make us explore the minimals directory structure in detail. I think that this directory has moved to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/bin/man/man/ Not to explore, but everything there is still more or less experimental (already usable, but not even approved by Hans yet), so if you have any suggestions about the structure, you're welcome to tell us your opinion. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Easy way to start working with cyrillic?
On Nov 8, 2007 8:28 AM, Klaus Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am entirely new to Tex and Context. I installed the stand alone mswin context distro and manage to typeset Dutch texts without any problems, using the manuals. I also need to typeset Russian texts, however, and I was wondering if there exists a painless, 'out of the box', way to make Context understand Russian (and not transliterating everything), or is it necessary to install additional fonts? The wikipage on the contextgarden site on Russian doesn't really give any positive results, and browsing the mailinglist archives neither. I think it's possible (at least I've already typeset some russian text from XML utf-8 encoded) Do you have a comprensive and short example ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Easy way to start working with cyrillic?
Hi Klaus, try this: --- % engine=xetex \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][TeX Gyre Pagella] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,10pt] \starttext \midaligned{\tfb\bf Arkadi und Boris Strugazki} \blank \midaligned{\tfb\bf Аркадий и Борис Стругацкие} \blank[7*big] \midaligned{\tfc\bf Milliarden Jahre vor dem Weltuntergang} \blank \midaligned{\tfc\bf За миллиард лет до конца света} \blank[5*big] \midaligned{\tfa\bf Eine unter seltsamen Umständen aufgefundene Handschrift} \stoptext --- if this doesn't work, you can mail me directly. Greetings Lutz 2007/11/8, Klaus Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am entirely new to Tex and Context. I installed the stand alone mswin context distro and manage to typeset Dutch texts without any problems, using the manuals. I also need to typeset Russian texts, however, and I was wondering if there exists a painless, 'out of the box', way to make Context understand Russian (and not transliterating everything), or is it necessary to install additional fonts? The wikipage on the contextgarden site on Russian doesn't really give any positive results, and browsing the mailinglist archives neither. Thanks, Klaus Gena ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Easy way to start working with cyrillic?
Klaus Gena wrote: Hi, I am entirely new to Tex and Context. I installed the stand alone mswin context distro and manage to typeset Dutch texts without any problems, using the manuals. I also need to typeset Russian texts, however, and I was wondering if there exists a painless, 'out of the box', way to make Context understand Russian (and not transliterating everything), or is it necessary to install additional fonts? The wikipage on the contextgarden site on Russian doesn't really give any positive results, and browsing the mailinglist archives neither. just use context with xetex or luatex Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: Flow charts forgetting text
I tried to send the files off line to Aditya, I could not get the message through, so it comes to the list ... Wili Begin forwarded message: From: Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 8, 2007 8:28:01 PM GMT+01:00 To: Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Flow charts forgetting text Hi Aditya, sorry for the late reply! Please find attached the pdf and sorce (I added another \FLOWchart [test] I do hope, that the problem can be fixed. Kr Willi On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi Willi, On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Willi Egger wrote: Your code compiles correctly here. Well with the following version of Context ConTeXt ver: 2007.10.03 12:52 MKII fmt: 2007.10.4 int: english/ english Thank you for checking this. Can you send me the pdf file off- list? I do not get a X_t in the second flowchart, either on my machine (MKII 09.28) or on contextgarden. Aditya _ __ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net _ __ Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Font sizes using Chinese module
2007/11/7, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/7/07, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: Btw: Is there any reason for not using XeTeX (or LuaTeX in the future) for Chinese? (To be honest: I have absolutely no idea whether it works and how good it works if at all, but I would expect less problems there.) i bet that duncan uses it in some workflow that has to be stable i.e. no moving targets like xetex or luatex (yet) That's certainly true for LuaTeX, but XeTeX is really not *so unstable*. I agree, font support has been (and still is a bit) broken until recently (and Leopard users report serious problems with xdvipdfmx), but the rest of problems seems approximately equally buggy/problematic to me as the rest of ConTeXt :) :) :) :) Only as a suggestion: could someone who has managed to install Chinese fonts and map files successfully, upload the needed files to http://modules.contextgarden.net/, so that it would be easier for other users to take ready-to-start-using module rather than having to read dozens of pages of how to get started? In that case, supporting Chinese on the garden could be done right away if needed (perhaps we need to enable third party modules on the garden, which is really not so difficult to do). Mojca I put two files to files to the wiki to write chinese, the contain the tfm, enc and map files to use the fonts. The first file [1] provides support for the fonts from the wiki page for chinese [3], the only thing you have to do is to unzip my file in a local TeX tree and to place the fonts files in the truetype directory. The second file [2] has support for the cwTeX fonts (cwTeX is a chinese TeX distribution), they look a little bit different and you have to download the fonts from their site [4].To use the fonts unzip my archiv from the module section in your TeX tree and put the truetype fonts in the corresponding folder. You can choose between fonts with centered punctuation or punctuation at the baseline, use only one of them because both have the same files names. After you have installed the fonts on your system refresh the database with texhash and and you try my attached example file (the text is taken from Hans mkii/iv manual). Wolfgang [1] http://modules.contextgarden.net/chinese [2] http://modules.contextgarden.net/cwTeX [3] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Chinese [4] ftp://ftp.ctex.org/pub/tex/fonts/cwTeX/ chinese.tex Description: TeX document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Easy way to start working with cyrillic? (Hans Hagen)
Thanks a lot for your help ! I managed to get xetex talking with the help of the Texlive DVD and Lutz's tips. I'm a happy ConText user now. Klaus Klaus Gena wrote: Hi, I am entirely new to Tex and Context. I installed the stand alone mswin context distro and manage to typeset Dutch texts without any problems, using the manuals. I also need to typeset Russian texts, however, and I was wondering if there exists a painless, 'out of the box', way to make Context understand Russian (and not transliterating everything), or is it necessary to install additional fonts? The wikipage on the contextgarden site on Russian doesn't really give any positive results, and browsing the mailinglist archives neither. just use context with xetex or luatex Hans -- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 13:18:33 +0100 From: Lutz Haseloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Easy way to start working with cyrillic? To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Klaus, try this: --- % engine=xetex \definetypeface[MyFace][rm][Xserif][TeX Gyre Pagella] \setupbodyfont[MyFace,10pt] \starttext \midaligned{\tfb\bf Arkadi und Boris Strugazki} \blank \midaligned{\tfb\bf ??? ? ? ??} \blank[7*big] \midaligned{\tfc\bf Milliarden Jahre vor dem Weltuntergang} \blank \midaligned{\tfc\bf ?? ??? ?? ? ?} \blank[5*big] \midaligned{\tfa\bf Eine unter seltsamen Umst?nden aufgefundene Handschrift} \stoptext --- if this doesn't work, you can mail me directly. Greetings Lutz ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT]UK TeX FAQ, v3.17, released
From http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes What is ConTeXt? ConTeXt is a macro package developed by Hans Hagen of Pragma-Ade. ConTeXt is a document-production system based, like LaTeX, on the TeX typesetting system. Whereas LaTeX insulates the writer from typographical details, ConTeXt takes a complementary approach by providing structured interfaces for handling typography, including extensive support for colors, backgrounds, hyperlinks, presentations, figure-text integration, and conditional compilation. It gives the user extensive control over formatting while making it easy to create new layouts and styles without learning the TeX macro language. ConTeXt's unified design avoids the package clashes that can happen with LaTeX. ConTeXt also integrates MetaFun, a superset of MetaPost and a powerful system for vector graphics. MetaFun can be used as a stand-alone system to produce figures, but its strength lies in enhancing ConTeXt documents with accurate graphic elements. ConTeXt allows the users to specify formatting commands in English, Dutch, German, French, or Italian, and to use different typesetting engines (PDFTeX, XeTeX, Aleph, and soon LuaTeX) without changing the user interface. ConTeXt is developed rapidly, often in response to requests from the user community. *ConTeXt doesn't yet have quite such a large developer community as does LaTeX, but those developers who are active seem to have prodigious energy.*Support is available via a WIKI site and via the mailing list. * * (my bold-italic) Thank you very much , Mr. Fairbairns -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] rotate bug?
Hi, This morning I used \rotate to correct some slightly sloped graphics and noticed a weird behavior. In case of the rotation angle interval (-1,0) the negative sign is simply ignored, so the rotation goes to the opposite direction. Donno if negative values for the rotation angle are allowed (they normally work). But it's easier to handle it this way (sign for direction of rotation). @Wolfgang: as workaround, only use positive values or add -360 ;) (and sorry for my wrong interpretation of your table mail) @Taco: are you still collecting the ConTeXt bugs? Best wishes, Peter \setuplayout[grid=yes] \starttext \showgrid \def\Foobar{\blackrule[width=\textwidth,height=0.5\lineheight]} \framed{\rotate[rotation=-0.5]{\Foobar}} % -0.x is not working (sign is ignored) \snaptogrid\hbox\bgroup \framed{\rotate[rotation=359.5]{\Foobar}} % ok \egroup \snaptogrid\hbox\bgroup \framed{\rotate[rotation=0.5]{\Foobar}} % ok \egroup \snaptogrid\hbox\bgroup \framed{\rotate[rotation=-359.5]{\Foobar}} % ok \egroup \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] table layout
2007/11/7, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: Hi Peter, your solution would be really a option but I hope the real bugs will be fixed, I see :) So things could be worse. You have - a workaround (?) - a complete minimal description/example of the problem (as starting point for Hans) - some good hints/solution for fixing If you add some patience this all looks quite promising. ;) Best wishes, Peter Hi Peter, most of the are also possible with the tabulate environment and I was able to get a nearly perfect result (a few minor spacing problems) with it. \unprotect \newconditional\tabulaterepeatfoot \settrue\tabulaterepeatfoot %\setfalse\tabulaterepeatfoot \def\dosplittabulatebox#1% {\resettsplit \def\tsplitminimumfreelines{2}% \def\tsplitminimumfreespace{0pt}% \setbox\tsplitcontent\box#1% \ifcase\tabulaterepeathead\or \setbox\tsplithead\vsplit\tsplitcontent to \lineheight \setbox\tsplithead\vbox{\unvbox\tsplithead}% \or \setbox\tsplithead\vbox{\hbox{\strut\tabulateparameter\c!title}}% \fi \ifcase\tabulaterepeatfoot \setbox\tsplittail\vsplit\tsplitcontent to \lineheight \setbox\tsplittail\vbox{\vskip-\strutht\unvbox\tsplittail}% \fi \handletsplit} \def\fulltabulatecontent {\tabulateheadcontent \ifcase\tabulaterepeatfoot \tabulatetailcontent \tabulatecontent \else \tabulatecontent \tabulatetailcontent \fi \removefunnytabulateline} \protect \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \setuptabulate [split=no, header=repeat, rulecolor=red] \starttabulatehead %\TABLEnoalign{\dotabulaterule\nobreak\vskip-\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak} \TABLEnoalign{\dotabulaterule\nobreak} \NC Head \NC Head \NC\NR %\TABLEnoalign{\nobreak\vskip-\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak\dotabulaterule} \TABLEnoalign{\nobreak\vskip-2\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak\dotabulaterule} \stoptabulatehead \starttabulatetail \TABLEnoalign{\allowbreak\dotabulaterule\allowbreak} \stoptabulatetail \starttabulate[|l|l|] \dorecurse{100}{\expanded{\NC Row \hfill\recurselevel \NC Row \hfill\recurselevel \NC\NR}}% %\NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] table layout
Hi Wolfgang, nice patch. I just looked at the comparison of the table type (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tables_Overview). There it says: tabulate problems: very limited Add some more stuff and we can change this to 'limited' ;) Best wishes, Peter Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: 2007/11/7, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: Hi Peter, your solution would be really a option but I hope the real bugs will be fixed, I see :) So things could be worse. You have - a workaround (?) - a complete minimal description/example of the problem (as starting point for Hans) - some good hints/solution for fixing If you add some patience this all looks quite promising. ;) Best wishes, Peter Hi Peter, most of the are also possible with the tabulate environment and I was able to get a nearly perfect result (a few minor spacing problems) with it. \unprotect \newconditional\tabulaterepeatfoot \settrue\tabulaterepeatfoot %\setfalse\tabulaterepeatfoot \def\dosplittabulatebox#1% {\resettsplit \def\tsplitminimumfreelines{2}% \def\tsplitminimumfreespace{0pt}% \setbox\tsplitcontent\box#1% \ifcase\tabulaterepeathead\or \setbox\tsplithead\vsplit\tsplitcontent to \lineheight \setbox\tsplithead\vbox{\unvbox\tsplithead}% \or \setbox\tsplithead\vbox{\hbox{\strut\tabulateparameter\c!title}}% \fi \ifcase\tabulaterepeatfoot \setbox\tsplittail\vsplit\tsplitcontent to \lineheight \setbox\tsplittail\vbox{\vskip-\strutht\unvbox\tsplittail}% \fi \handletsplit} \def\fulltabulatecontent {\tabulateheadcontent \ifcase\tabulaterepeatfoot \tabulatetailcontent \tabulatecontent \else \tabulatecontent \tabulatetailcontent \fi \removefunnytabulateline} \protect \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \setuptabulate [split=no, header=repeat, rulecolor=red] \starttabulatehead %\TABLEnoalign{\dotabulaterule\nobreak\vskip-\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak} \TABLEnoalign{\dotabulaterule\nobreak} \NC Head \NC Head \NC\NR %\TABLEnoalign{\nobreak\vskip-\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak\dotabulaterule} \TABLEnoalign{\nobreak\vskip-2\tabulateparameter{rulethickness}\nobreak\dotabulaterule} \stoptabulatehead \starttabulatetail \TABLEnoalign{\allowbreak\dotabulaterule\allowbreak} \stoptabulatetail \starttabulate[|l|l|] \dorecurse{100}{\expanded{\NC Row \hfill\recurselevel \NC Row \hfill\recurselevel \NC\NR}}% %\NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT]UK TeX FAQ, v3.17, released
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, luigi scarso wrote: From http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes What is ConTeXt? ConTeXt is a macro package developed by Hans Hagen of Pragma-Ade. ConTeXt is a document-production system based, like LaTeX, on the TeX typesetting system. Whereas LaTeX insulates the writer from typographical details, ConTeXt takes a complementary approach by providing structured interfaces for handling typography, including extensive support for colors, backgrounds, hyperlinks, presentations, figure-text integration, and conditional compilation. It gives the user extensive control over formatting while making it easy to create new layouts and styles without learning the TeX macro language. ConTeXt's unified design avoids the package clashes that can happen with LaTeX. ConTeXt also integrates MetaFun, a superset of MetaPost and a powerful system for vector graphics. MetaFun can be used as a stand-alone system to produce figures, but its strength lies in enhancing ConTeXt documents with accurate graphic elements. ConTeXt allows the users to specify formatting commands in English, Dutch, German, French, or Italian, and to use different typesetting engines (PDFTeX, XeTeX, Aleph, and soon LuaTeX) without changing the user interface. ConTeXt is developed rapidly, often in response to requests from the user community. *ConTeXt doesn't yet have quite such a large developer community as does LaTeX, but those developers who are active seem to have prodigious energy.*Support is available via a WIKI site and via the mailing list. * * (my bold-italic) Thank you very much , Mr. Fairbairns I had sent this updated writeup on ConTeXt to Robin, I think, almost a year ago when there was a discussion on the mailing list about the writeup for Debian. IIRC, most of it was written by Idrid and Sanjoy. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Flow charts forgetting text
Willi, I did receive your message. I am travelling so am not able to check mail frequently. Hans and you do get X_t when the flowchart is reused. I do not get it on my machine. Since I have moved to a new computer recently, there can be a configuration problem. I will try to test it and see what is happening. But the thing that troubles me is that I get the same (wrong) output on the garden. Can you also send me the log files of your run (with a \loggingall place in the front), so that I can check why I get different output. Thanks for your efforts. Aditya On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Willi Egger wrote: I tried to send the files off line to Aditya, I could not get the message through, so it comes to the list ... Wili Begin forwarded message: From: Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 8, 2007 8:28:01 PM GMT+01:00 To: Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Flow charts forgetting text Hi Aditya, sorry for the late reply! Please find attached the pdf and sorce (I added another \FLOWchart [test] I do hope, that the problem can be fixed. Kr Willi On Nov 5, 2007, at 6:44 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi Willi, On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Willi Egger wrote: Your code compiles correctly here. Well with the following version of Context ConTeXt ver: 2007.10.03 12:52 MKII fmt: 2007.10.4 int: english/ english Thank you for checking this. Can you send me the pdf file off- list? I do not get a X_t in the second flowchart, either on my machine (MKII 09.28) or on contextgarden. Aditya _ __ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net _ __ Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Willi Egger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] table layout
On Nov 9, 2007 10:50 AM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/11/7, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: What about this ? tabulate spec \def\PRETABRULE{% %\vrule width1pt height \strutht depth \strutdp% \ifnum\tabulatecolumn=0% \rlap{\raise\strutht\hbox{\color[lightgray]{\vrule width \textwidth height 0.5pt}}}% \fi% } \def\POSTTABRULE{% %\vrule width1pt height \strutht depth \strutdp %\ifnum\tabulatecolumn=3% % \ifnum\numexpr(\totalnoftabulatelines -1-\noftabulatelines)=0% %\rlap{\lower\strutdp\hbox{\color[lightgray]{\vrule width 3cm height 0.5pt}}}% % \fi% %\fi% } \let\pretabrule \PRETABRULE \let\posttabrule\POSTTABRULE %\let\posttabrule\donothing -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Columnsets and footnote placement
Hi, Is there a way to place footnotes when using columnsets, so that they [the footnotes] span across the bottom of the page, like they do when using \startcolumn? TIA, Elliot ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT]UK TeX FAQ, v3.17, released
On Nov 9, 2007 4:18 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had sent this updated writeup on ConTeXt to Robin, I think, almost a year ago when there was a discussion on the mailing list about the writeup for Debian. IIRC, most of it was written by Idrid and Sanjoy. Aditya * ConTeXt doesn't yet have quite such a large developer community as does LaTeX, but those developers who are active seem to have prodigious energy ** * and in particularly Aditya,Idris and Sanjoy. :))) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some update woes on Linux
Hi again, Sorry for the delay, I was taken with real life worries for a bit. So, I realized I did have some leftovers from an earlier installation attempt. I cleaned everything and reinstalled TeXLive from the CD, from scratch. I will wait a bit before updating ConTeXt again, because right now I just want to access my system fonts (I'm on Linux) with XeTeX and I can't seem to manage to do that anymore. Everything else works. Now I just can't remember what I did back on Ubuntu Edgy/Feisty. When I run: fc-list I do see my fonts listed (after a fc-cache -f). What do I need more? Thanks for all the help! Jeff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT]UK TeX FAQ, v3.17, released
I had sent this updated writeup on ConTeXt to Robin, I think, almost a year ago when there was a discussion on the mailing list about the writeup for Debian. IIRC, most of it was written by Idrid and Sanjoy. Aditya * ConTeXt doesn't yet have quite such a large developer community as does LaTeX, but those developers who are active seem to have prodigious energy ** * and in particularly Aditya,Idris and Sanjoy. :))) and mojca (sorry sorry sorry sorry...) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Hi to all (Idris, in particular, as we are always dealing with the same problems... ), I just want to share some thoughts about the ol' damn' problem of converting to ConTeXt from Word et al. As I told Andrea: For relatively simple documents (like the kind we use in academic journals) it seems we can now 1) convert doc to odt using OOo 2) convert odt to markdown using As suggest by Idris, I subscribed to the pandoc list, but I have to say that the activity is not exactly like the one on ConTeXt list... So the actual support for ConTeXt conversion is not convincing. More, it's always better to put the hands on your machine... My problem is to convert a series of academic journals in ConTeXt. They come form the Humanities so little structure (basically, mainly body and footnotes). Far from me the idea of automatically doing all the stuff, I'd like to be faster and more accurate in conversion. (No particular interest in figures, they are few, not so much in references: they tends to be typographically inconsistent if done in a WYSISYG environment, so difficult to parse). More, as the journal has already being published we need to work with final pdfs. After wasting my time with an awful pdf to html converter by Acrobat, I discovered this, you may all know: http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/ The html conversion is very very good in resulting rendering and also in sources, but after some tweakings I got interested in the xml conversion it allows. The xml format substantially encodes the infos related to page, typically each line is an element. Plus, there are bold and italics marked easily as b and i I'm still struggling to understand something really operative of XML processing in ConTeXt, so I switched back to Python. I used an incremental sax parser with some replacement. This is today's draft. Original: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02%20imp.pdf Recomposed (no setup at all, only \enableregime[utf]): http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02imp.pdf pdf -- pdftoxml -- xml -- python script -- tex -- pdf I recovered par, bold, em, footnotes, stripping dashes and reassembling the text with footnote references. Not bad as a first step. I guess that you xml gurus could probably do much easier and cleaner. So, I mean -just for my very specific needs, I con probably take word sources, convert to pdf and then finally reach ConTeXt as discussed. Just some ideas to share with the list Best -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Hi Andrea, On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:30:36 -0700, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi to all (Idris, in particular, as we are always dealing with the same problems... ), I just want to share some thoughts about the ol' damn' problem of converting to ConTeXt from Word et al. As I told Andrea: For relatively simple documents (like the kind we use in academic journals) it seems we can now 1) convert doc to odt using OOo 2) convert odt to markdown using http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Odt2txt.py 3) use the pandoc utility to convert markdown to ConTeXt. [you left this out] As suggest by Idris, I subscribed to the pandoc list, but I have to say that the activity is not exactly like the one on ConTeXt list... So the actual support for ConTeXt conversion is not convincing. More, it's always better to put the hands on your machine... Did you try the markdown-to-ConTeXt conversion? The doc-odt-markdown-context workflow seems pretty useful as is. See also http://code.google.com/p/pandoc/wiki/ConTeXtImprovements I'm working on something else related to this issue that I hope to say more about in the coming weeks ;-) Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:30:36 -0700, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After wasting my time with an awful pdf to html converter by Acrobat, I discovered this, you may all know: http://pdftohtml.sourceforge.net/ Looks impressive... The html conversion is very very good in resulting rendering and also in sources, but after some tweakings I got interested in the xml conversion it allows. The xml format substantially encodes the infos related to page, typically each line is an element. Plus, there are bold and italics marked easily as b and i I'm still struggling to understand something really operative of XML processing in ConTeXt, so I switched back to Python. I used an incremental sax parser with some replacement. This is today's draft. Original: http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02%20imp.pdf Recomposed (no setup at all, only \enableregime[utf]): http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea/membrana/02imp.pdf Looks VERY impressive... Tell me, how did you set up the cropmarks etc.? pdf -- pdftoxml -- xml -- python script -- tex -- pdf I recovered par, bold, em, footnotes, stripping dashes and reassembling the text with footnote references. Not bad as a first step. Did you also try pdftohtml -- html -- context? I guess that you xml gurus could probably do much easier and cleaner. So, I mean -just for my very specific needs, I con probably take word sources, convert to pdf and then finally reach ConTeXt as discussed. Again, very nice stuff! Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Doc to ConTeXt [was Re: HTML to ConTeXt]
Hi Andrea, I face a similar issue while organizing large-scale documents prepared by members of my group (many folks are not conversant with TeX here and write documents with WORD). My solution was to take their input through a wiki and convert the HTML to context markup using filters written with ruby (also see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/HTML_and_ConTeXt). Converting HTML syntax to ConTeXt syntax is very do-able. If it is of any use, I attach the ruby filters I use for my purpose. BTW, I use a ruby library called hpricot to ease some of these conversions. saji ... def scrape_the_page(pagePath,oFile,hFile) items_to_remove = [ #menus,#menus notice div.markedup, div.navigation, head, #table of contents hr ] doc=Hpricot(open(pagePath)) # this may not be applicable to your case # this removes some unnecessary markup from the Wiki pages @article = (doc/#container).each do |content| #remove unnecessary content and edit links items_to_remove.each { |x| (content/x).remove } end # Write HTML content to file hFile.write @article.inner_html # How to replace various syntactic elements using Hpricot # replace p/b element with \bf (@article/p/*/b).each do |pb| pb.swap({\\bf #{pb.inner_html}}) end # replace p/b element with \bf (@article/p/b).each do |pb| pb.swap({\\bf #{pb.inner_html}}) end # replace strong element with \bf (@article/strong).each do |ps| ps.swap({\\bf #{ps.inner_html}}) end # replace h1 element with section (@article/h1).each do |h1| h1.swap(\\section{#{h1.inner_html}}) end # replace h2 element with subsection (@article/h2).each do |h2| h2.swap(\\subsection{#{h2.inner_html}}) end # replace h3 element with subsection (@article/h3).each do |h3| h3.swap(\\subsubsection{#{h3.inner_html}}) end # replace h4 element with subsection (@article/h4).each do |h4| h4.swap(\\subsubsubsection{#{h4.inner_html}}) end # replace h5 element with subsection (@article/h5).each do |h5| h5.swap(\\subsubsubsubsection{#{h5.inner_html}}) end # replace precode by equivalent command in context (@article/pre).each do |pre| pre.swap(\\startcode \n #{pre.at(code).inner_html} \n \\stopcode) end # when we encounter a reference to a figure inside the html # we replace it with a ConTeXt reference (@article/a).each do |a| a.swap(\\in[#{a.inner_html}]) end # remove 'alt' attribute inside img element # replace pimg by equivalent command in context (@article/p/img).each do |img| img_attrs=img.attributes['alt'].split(,) # separate the file name from the extension # have to take of file names that have a . embedded in them img_src=img.attributes['src'].reverse.sub(/\w+\./,).reverse # puts img_src # see if position of figure is indicated img_pos=force img_attrs.each do |arr| img_pos=arr.gsub(position=,) if arr.match(position=) end img_attrs.delete(position=#{img_pos}) unless img_pos==force # see if the array img_attrs contains an referral key word if img_attrs.first.match(/\w+[=]\w+/) img_id= else img_id=img_attrs.first img_attrs.delete_at(0) end if img_pos==force if img.attributes['title'] img.swap( \\placefigure\n [#{img_pos}][#{img_id}] \n {#{img.attributes['title']}} \n {\\externalfigure[#{img_src}][#{img_attrs.join(,)}]} \n ) else img.swap( \\placefigure\n [#{img_pos}] \n {none} \n {\\externalfigure[#{img_src}][#{img_attrs.join(,)}]} ) end else if img.attributes['title'] img.swap( \\placefigure\n [#{img_pos}][#{img_id}] \n {#{img.attributes['title']}} \n {\\externalfigure[#{img_src}][#{img_attrs.join(,)}]} \n ) else img.swap( \\placefigure\n [#{img_pos}] \n {none} \n {\\externalfigure[#{img_src}][#{img_attrs.join(,)}]} \n ) end end end # end of converting inside (@article/p/img) # why not search for table and if we find caption, keep it ; if not add an empty # Styling options: Here I catch the div element called Col2 and # format the tex document in 2 columns # Tables : placing them # replace pimg by equivalent command in context (@article/table).each do |tab| if tab.at(caption) tab.swap( \\placetable[split]{#{tab.at(caption).inner_html}}\n {\\bTABLE \n #{tab.inner_html} \\eTABLE} ) else tab.swap( \\placetable[split]{}\n {\\bTABLE \n #{tab.inner_html} \\eTABLE} \n ) end end # Tables: remove the caption (@article/caption).each do |cap| cap.swap(\n) end # Now we transfer the syntactically altered html to a string Object # and manipulate that object further [EMAIL PROTECTED] # remove empty space in the beginning newdoc.gsub!(/^\s+/,) # remove all elements we don't need. newdoc.gsub!(/^div.*/,) newdoc.gsub!(/^\/div.*/,) newdoc.gsub!(/^form.*/,) newdoc.gsub!(/^\/form.*/,) newdoc.gsub!(/p/,\n) newdoc.gsub!(/\/p/,\n)