Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz

On Dec 12, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

 I vote against too.

 The only mappings, that make sense to me:
 -- and --- since it's difficult to distinguish them from - in a
 text-editor
 and ~ since it's difficult to distinguish the utf unbreakable  
 space from
 normal space in a text-editor.

Another German, and I agree, too, with every point Peter makes. As an  
addition: I would vote for keeping ` and '. I know that  
\quotation{ } is better and have been using it for a while now, but I  
also know that many older documents still have the old quotes, and  
when I began using TeX, they were considered standard. I think it's  
better to gently convince users to switch to the better style, not  
force them by breaking their documents.

My two cents, best wishes

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi Wolfgang,


Am 08.12.2007 um 10:18 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 2007/12/8, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I think he mean the old methods write for example umlauts and other
 accents. You write a to get ä, s to get ß ...

 The last user how needed this suport for german was Steffen Wolfrum


Did I? I use utf-8 (or at least texnansi) encoded documents as  
input ... so no need for a to get ä, s to get ß at all!!!


 but the active characters are disabled by default and ConTeXt has it's
 commands to allow hyphens before compund words.


... or do you mean something else (hyphens? compound words?)?


Steffen

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 12.12.2007 um 07:50 schrieb Peter Münster:

 I'm german, and I don't see any reason for keeping those mappings.

 I would vote against supporting them (a, o, u) in LuaTeX, but  
 it's
 not up to me.

 nobody voted in favor so far ...

 I vote against too.

Same for me.


 The only mappings, that make sense to me:
 -- and --- since it's difficult to distinguish them from - in a
 text-editor
 and ~ since it's difficult to distinguish the utf unbreakable  
 space from
 normal space in a text-editor.

That's exactly my experience too.
These mappings are used and still needed.

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 11.12.2007 um 16:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 I guess German is famous for its monstrous compound words ;o(

 So I have a manually collected lists of hyphenation patterns (like
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}).
 This I'd like to keep as a two separate files: on for usage with the
 body-text set in \mainlanguage[deo] and one for \mainlanguage[de].

 Is there a handy way to automatically assign and include one of these
 files (HyPold and HyPnew) to the usage of the respective  
 \mainlanguage
 [deo] and [de] ?

 you can copy them to lang-de.hyp

 of just :


 \mainlangage[de] \input yourfile.tex


is there [with mkii] a better / more economical way to write those  
yourfile.tex collections than

\hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}
\hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tun-gen}
\hyphenation{Be-triebs-prü-fung}
\hyphenation{Be-triebs-prü-fun-gen}
\hyphenation{Teil-as-pek-te}
\hyphenation{Teil-as-pek-ten}


??


Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 
 is there [with mkii] a better / more economical way to write those  
 yourfile.tex collections than
 
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tun-gen}
 \hyphenation{Be-triebs-prü-fung}
 \hyphenation{Be-triebs-prü-fun-gen}
 \hyphenation{Teil-as-pek-te}
 \hyphenation{Teil-as-pek-ten}

You can delete 5 of the commands and 10 of the braces can be replaced
by 5 spaces, but that's it.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Context 2007/12/10 beta

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/11, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Santy, Michael wrote:
  There seems to be a problem introduced in the 2007/12/10 beta related to 
  tables with rowspans.  The following doesn't compile:
 
  \starttext
  \setupTABLE[split=repeat]
  \bTABLE
  \bTABLEbody
  \bTR
  \bTC A \eTC
  \bTC B \eTC
  \eTR
  \bTR
  \bTC[nc=2]
  blah
  \eTC
  \eTR
  \eTABLEbody
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext

 new beta

 for those using natural tables ... they are much faster now (two times,
 especially large tables)

 Hans

sounds like you can now support more offset parameters for framed because
it is usefull to set different offset patameters for the left and
right side of table
cells at the margins.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Heading styles

2007-12-12 Thread Zeus Gómez Marmolejo
Hi all,

Two questions concerning heading styles:

 1) How can I control vertical spacing of section headings. I'm doing it 
now with:

 \setuphead
  [subsection]
  [before=\vskip -7pt,
   after=\vskip -20pt]

But I think this is quite clumsy, because I'm adding a negative spacing. 
I only want to remove the default spacing...

 2) I want to use a complete different font for headings. My mainface 
family is iwona but I want subsection titles in Palatino. How can I make 
this?

Thanks,

Zeus.
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Re: [NTG-context] Unwanted information in PDF files

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/12, Maurí­cio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 After generating a PDF from a .tex file,
 I changed the name of the resulting PDF to
 something else. But when I open that file in
 'evince', it still shows the old file name.

 I opened that file in emacs in saw that I lot
 of info is stored in the PDF file: original file
 name, creation date, generated by Context etc.

 That can be a problem sometimes. For instance,
 someone wouldn't want to write a file like
 'I_hate_my_job.tex' and then change the result
 to 'report_to_boss.pdf', just to see his manager
 opening the file and reading the first name. Or,
 in my situation, write a file with special
 Unicode characters and see evince show the file
 name as bogus characters.

 How can I instruct Context not to write anything
 inside the PDF file that I have not asked for?

 Thanks,
 Maurício

\setupinteraction[title=...]

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Heading styles

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/12, Zeus Gómez Marmolejo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 Two questions concerning heading styles:

  1) How can I control vertical spacing of section headings. I'm doing it
 now with:

  \setuphead
   [subsection]
   [before=\vskip -7pt,
after=\vskip -20pt]

 But I think this is quite clumsy, because I'm adding a negative spacing.
 I only want to remove the default spacing...

  2) I want to use a complete different font for headings. My mainface
 family is iwona but I want subsection titles in Palatino. How can I make
 this?

 Thanks,

 Zeus.

\usetypescript[palatino,iwona]
\setupbodyfont[iwona]
\starttext
\setuphead[section,subsection][style={\switchtotypeface[palatino]}]
\setuphead[subsection][before=,after=]
%\setuphead[subsection][before=\nowhitespace,after=\nowhitespace]
\section{Knuth}
\input knuth
\subsection{Zapf}
\input zapf
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 11.12.2007 um 16:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 I guess German is famous for its monstrous compound words ;o(

 So I have a manually collected lists of hyphenation patterns (like
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}).
 This I'd like to keep as a two separate files: on for usage with the
 body-text set in \mainlanguage[deo] and one for \mainlanguage[de].

 Is there a handy way to automatically assign and include one of these
 files (HyPold and HyPnew) to the usage of the respective  
 \mainlanguage
 [deo] and [de] ?

 you can copy them to lang-de.hyp

 of just :


 \mainlangage[de] \input yourfile.tex


Thanks Taco...

\hyphenation{
Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung
Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tun-gen
Be-triebs-prü-fung
Be-triebs-prü-fun-gen
Teil-as-pek-te
Teil-as-pek-ten
}


... but this works only when included in a specific component but  
not for an entire project.
When \hyphenation{...} is written in the environment file it doesn't  
work (same for writing \mainlangage[de] \input MyCompound.tex in the  
environment file).

???

Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Unwanted information in PDF files

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Rolf
Maurí­cio schrieb:
 Hi,
 
 After generating a PDF from a .tex file,
 I changed the name of the resulting PDF to
 something else. But when I open that file in
 'evince', it still shows the old file name.
 
 I opened that file in emacs in saw that I lot
 of info is stored in the PDF file: original file
 name, creation date, generated by Context etc.

Hit Ctrl-D in Acrobat (while viewing the document),
tabs Description and Custom...

 That can be a problem sometimes. For instance,
 someone wouldn't want to write a file like
 'I_hate_my_job.tex' and then change the result
 to 'report_to_boss.pdf', just to see his manager
 opening the file and reading the first name. Or,
 in my situation, write a file with special
 Unicode characters and see evince show the file
 name as bogus characters.

Not the best example, but in general I agree. In my special case I don't
want the overhead for smaler standalone metapost graphics (for inclusion
only).

 How can I instruct Context not to write anything
 inside the PDF file that I have not asked for?

There is currently no interface for this. But you are free (with the
risk of breaking things now or in the future) to change the code for
your needs.


Add this to a standalone file (reporttoboss.tex?) for inclusion and
comment the info you don't want:

\unprotect
% code taken from spec-fdf.tex

\def\doPDFsetupidentity#1#2#3#4#5#6%
  {\bgroup
   \enablePDFdocencoding
   \edef\!!stringa{#5}%
   \ifx\!!stringa\empty \ifx\pdfdate\undefined\else
 \edef\!!stringa{D:\pdfdate}%
   \fi \fi
   \expanded{\doPDFaddtoinfo
 {/Title (#1)
  /Subject (#2)
  /Author (#3)
  /Creator (#4)
  /ModDate (\!!stringa)
%%  /ID (\jobname.\!!stringa) % needed for pdf/x
  /Keywords (#6)}}%
   \egroup}


\def\addPDFdocumentinfo
  {\doPDFaddtocatalog{\currentPDFpagemode\currentPDFviewerprefs}%
   \doPDFaddtocatalog{/Version \ifdim\PDFversion00\points100\points
1.\fi\PDFversion}%
   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/Trapped /False}% !leave unchanged!
   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Version (\contextversion)}%
   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Time
(\number\normalyear.\twodigits\normalmonth.\twodigits\normalday\space
\twodigits\currenthour:\twodigits\currentminute)}%
%%   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Jobname (\jobname)}%
   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Url (www.pragma-ade.com)}}

\protect
\endinput

See the pdf reference manual for more details. And better check from
time to time if things have changed. This is ConTeXt ;)


Regards, Peter


 Thanks,
 Maurício
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Context 2007/12/10 beta

2007-12-12 Thread Michael Santy
Hans,

The two table-related problems that I reported against the 12/10 beta
appear to be fixed in the 12/11 beta.  I'll hammer on it some more.

Cheers,
Mike

On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 19:01 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Santy, Michael wrote:
  There seems to be a problem introduced in the 2007/12/10 beta related to 
  tables with rowspans.  The following doesn't compile:
  
  \starttext
  \setupTABLE[split=repeat]
  \bTABLE
  \bTABLEbody
  \bTR
  \bTC A \eTC
  \bTC B \eTC
  \eTR
  \bTR
  \bTC[nc=2]
  blah
  \eTC
  \eTR
  \eTABLEbody
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext
 
 new beta
 
 for those using natural tables ... they are much faster now (two times, 
 especially large tables)
 
 Hans
 
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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 11.12.2007 um 16:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 I guess German is famous for its monstrous compound words ;o(

 So I have a manually collected lists of hyphenation patterns (like
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}).
 This I'd like to keep as a two separate files: on for usage with the
 body-text set in \mainlanguage[deo] and one for \mainlanguage[de].

 Is there a handy way to automatically assign and include one of these
 files (HyPold and HyPnew) to the usage of the respective  
 \mainlanguage
 [deo] and [de] ?

 you can copy them to lang-de.hyp


this looks like a clean way (assigns automatically with the chosen  
\mainlanguage).

by default lang-de.hyp is empty ... does this indicate that it is  
actually meant for user entries?


Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Bookmarks on unnumbered subjects/titles etc

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Has anyone managed to get ConTeXt to generate PDF bookmarks for
 the unnumbered headings such as \title, \subject, etc?

 I saw the examples on the wiki page but unfortunately they
 did nothing.

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_Bookmarks_and_Headers

 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 \placebookmarks[chapter]
 \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
 \starttext
 \chapter{some chapter}
 \bookmark{a title}
 some text
 \stoptext

 The above example correctly generates bookmarks in the PDF.

 I can't, however, get the same thing to work when using
 \subject. Even explicitly placing bookmarks with \bookmark
 doesn't work:

 \setupinteraction[state=start]
 \placebookmarks[chapter] % didn't add subject here as the wiki
  % says it doesn't work, and it's correct
 \setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
 \starttext
 \subject{some chapter}
 \bookmark{a title}
 some text
 \stoptext

You can to play with the following code, I don't know why it produce multiple
bookmark entries and even more with text between the headers but it's funny.

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\def\sectionbookmark#1{\bookmark[section]{#1}#1}
\def\subjectbookmark#1{\bookmark[subject]{#1}#1}
\setuphead[section][deeptextcommand=\sectionbookmark]
\setuphead[subject][deeptextcommand=\subjectbookmark]
\placebookmarks[chapter,section,subject]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]
\starttext
\chapter{Chapter}
\section{Section}
\subject{Subject}
\section{Another section}
\chapter{Second Chapter}
text
\section{First section in second chapter}
text
\subject{Another Subject}
text
\section{Last section}
text
\stoptext

 The wiki page also has this:

 \definehead[Title][Chapter]
 \setuphead[Title][number=no]

 But that doesn't make the slightest difference.

 Anybody got any ideas how to get this to work? I'm using:

 pdfeTeX 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
 TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
 tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
 context : ver: 2005.01.31
 cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31 fmt: 2007.5.21 mes: english

You ConTeXt is ancient and you should update to the current version.

 Apologies if my replies to this list are apparently nonexistent.
 So far it seems as if most of them have bounced with a strange
 unrouteable address error.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Unwanted information in PDF files

2007-12-12 Thread Martin Schröder
2007/12/12, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
\doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Version (\contextversion)}%
\doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Time
 (\number\normalyear.\twodigits\normalmonth.\twodigits\normalday\space
 \twodigits\currenthour:\twodigits\currentminute)}%
 %%   \doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Jobname (\jobname)}%
\doPDFaddtoinfo{/ConTeXt.Url (www.pragma-ade.com)}}

While this is a nice idea, prefixes for additional keys in the info
dict should be registered with Adobe to avoid name clashes; see
appendix E of the PDF reference.

Best
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[NTG-context] installing latest beta

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Bowen
I have been unable to install the latest ConTeXt beta—both
sudo texhash
sudo
fail (stall) when updating  /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/ls-R...

The last beta worked as expected and, so far as I know, there have  
been no changes in my installation.

Any suggestions?

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Am 11.12.2007 um 16:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:
 
 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,

 I guess German is famous for its monstrous compound words ;o(

 So I have a manually collected lists of hyphenation patterns (like
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}).
 This I'd like to keep as a two separate files: on for usage with the
 body-text set in \mainlanguage[deo] and one for \mainlanguage[de].

 Is there a handy way to automatically assign and include one of these
 files (HyPold and HyPnew) to the usage of the respective  
 \mainlanguage
 [deo] and [de] ?
 you can copy them to lang-de.hyp
 
 
 this looks like a clean way (assigns automatically with the chosen  
 \mainlanguage).
 
 by default lang-de.hyp is empty ... does this indicate that it is  
 actually meant for user entries?

no, it means that the german patterns are perfect -)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] installing latest beta

2007-12-12 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Alan Bowen wrote:
 I have been unable to install the latest ConTeXt beta—both
 sudo texhash
 sudo
 fail (stall) when updating  /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/ls-R...
 
 The last beta worked as expected and, so far as I know, there have  
 been no changes in my installation.
 
 Any suggestions?

* disk full perhaps ?
* download failure or problems during unzip of cont-tmf.zip ?
* ls-R write permission error (maybe network access) ?


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Re: [NTG-context] installing latest beta

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Bowen

I did some basic housecleaning of caches and so forth and tried again.

sudo texhash now works, though it took 10 minutes (as opposed to the  
usual 30 seconds). No idea why.

sudo texexec --make --all ran as expected.

Anyway all I needed was patience. Sorry to impose on yours.

A.


On Dec 12, 2007, at 09;14,24 , Alan Bowen wrote:


I have been unable to install the latest ConTeXt beta—both
sudo texhash
sudo
fail (stall) when updating  /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/ls-R...

The last beta worked as expected and, so far as I know, there have
been no changes in my installation.

Any suggestions?

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Ulrich Dirr
 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Am 11.12.2007 um 16:16 schrieb Hans Hagen:
 
 Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I guess German is famous for its monstrous compound words ;o(
 
 So I have a manually collected lists of hyphenation patterns (like
 \hyphenation{Selbst-kon-troll-ein-rich-tung}).
 This I'd like to keep as a two separate files: on for usage with
 the body-text set in \mainlanguage[deo] and one for
 \mainlanguage[de]. 
 
 Is there a handy way to automatically assign and include one of
 these files (HyPold and HyPnew) to the usage of the respective
 \mainlanguage [deo] and [de] ?
 you can copy them to lang-de.hyp
 
 
 this looks like a clean way (assigns automatically with the chosen
 \mainlanguage). 
 
 by default lang-de.hyp is empty ... does this indicate that it is
 actually meant for user entries?
 
 no, it means that the german patterns are perfect -)
 
 Hans

Will luatex go the standard TeX hyphenation way or will you try to do it
better? Especially for german the hyphenation based on those patterns
does not work very well (btw the same is true for british english). My
dream would be to see a solution where we have main/prefered break
points and optional break points (of course we will never find a
solution for everything, like semantically different words but with same
orthography) ...

btw another question: will luatex interpret ligature rules which are
language specific? At least from otf fonts?

Ulrich

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Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
2007/12/11, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  2007/12/11, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
  I run LuaTeX on a songle core pentium M with 1.7 GHz and 512 MB ram,
  I made now a smell test file and the problem the speed with this file is 
  not
  so bad, the compile time increases with every \switchtobodyfont in my
  document and not every of them can be replaced.
  It seems to generate pages at an acceptable rate, it is just the
  font loading that is slow. Do you agree?
 
  Best wishes,
  Taco
 
  Yes, only the font loading takes very long, the document processing
  is a little bit slower than normal but it is ok. Only the font embedding
  or whatever happens at the end of the documents takes more time
  than normal but this could be related to the font size.

 most probably a memory problem

 btw, are you sure that you copied luatex.exe to texluac.exe? otherwise
 you don't get compiled font tables (if not, then copy and delete the cache)

Yes I did this and I changed my font settings for the title page to
\definedfont in my document takes now 80 seconds for a single run
but it spends most of the time for font loading.

But you can beat the process time of plain TeX which can be used
in simple documents where you can reduce the time with a few tricks.
My process time for vocabulary cards from a xml file is below 1 second
and I have more than 4.000 pages ;-) Doing the same thing woth ConTeXt's
old xml interface and XeTeX takes 30 seconds and I won't talk about mkiv.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] LaTeX float pages in ConTeXt

2007-12-12 Thread Santy, Michael
I've been playing around with the float placement options in ConTeXt, but I 
could find no way to enable float pages.  If you're not familiar with float 
pages, here's a quick blurb:

If there are too many floats to fit on a page, LaTeX pushes them on to the 
next page, and the next; eventually, floats may end up at the end of the 
document. If the [p] option has been provided to individual figures and tables, 
they may be pushed together onto a “float page” that has no text. - 
http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/floats.html

I'm not interested in using \setupfloat[figure][default=page].  It forces all 
figures to a float page with one picture per page.  In latex, the behavior that 
I desire can be specified with:

\begin{figure}[htbp]
  \includegraphics[width=5.0in, height=3.0in]{myfile.jpg}
  \caption{Blah}
\end{figure}

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX float pages in ConTeXt

2007-12-12 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Santy, Michael wrote:

 I've been playing around with the float placement options in ConTeXt, 
 but I could find no way to enable float pages.  If you're not familiar 
 with float pages, here's a quick blurb:

 If there are too many floats to fit on a page, LaTeX pushes them on to 
 the next page, and the next; eventually, floats may end up at the end of 
 the document. If the [p] option has been provided to individual figures 
 and tables, they may be pushed together onto a ?float page? that has no 
 text. - http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/GF/bibliog/latex/floats.html

 I'm not interested in using \setupfloat[figure][default=page].  It 
 forces all figures to a float page with one picture per page.  In latex, 
 the behavior that I desire can be specified with:

 \begin{figure}[htbp]
  \includegraphics[width=5.0in, height=3.0in]{myfile.jpg}
  \caption{Blah}
 \end{figure}

IIUC, ConTeXt float mechanism if significantly different from LaTeX's. In 
particular it has no qualms about placing floats on a page of their own. 
For example

\def\test{
\input knuth \endgraf
\dorecurse{20}{
\placefigure{Random figure}{}}
\input knuth \endgraf}

\starttext
\title{Here} \setupfloat[figure][default=here] \test
% Multiple figures get placed on a page of their own

\title{Top} \setupfloat[figure][default=top] \test
% A long standing misfeature that top forces floats to
% float on top of a title.

\title{Bottom} \setupfloat[figure][default=bottom] \test
% Again we can have multiple floats placed on a page of their own.

\title{Page} \setupfloat[figure][default=page] \test
% Only a single float per page

\title{All} \setupfloat[figure][default=here,top,bottom,page] \test
% If this makes you feel any better.

\stoptext

Aditya
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[NTG-context] FLOWchart clipping or offset

2007-12-12 Thread Johan Sandblom
Consider this example. As it stands, the cells in the flow chart are
clipped on the horizontal extremes. On the other hand if the offset is
uncommented, a vertical offset is introduced which makes the bottom of
the chart depart from the page (or at least it does in the real world
use from which this is drawn). I remember horoffset from some context
but it does not work here. Is there a solution I am missing?

Johan

\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\usemodule[chart]

\starttext

\setupFLOWcharts[dx=-17mm, dy=2mm, width=60mm,
  height=16mm,
  %% offset=17mm, % ---Uncomment this
  ]
\startFLOWchart[pa-er-cycle]
\startFLOWcell
  \name  {omgivning}
  \location  {3,1}
  \shape {action}
  \text  {Omgivning}
  \connection[lt]{sinnen}
\stopFLOWcell
\startFLOWcell
  \name  {sinnen}
  \location  {1,2}
  \shape {action}
  \text  {Sinnesintryck}
  \connection[blp]{informationsbearbetning}
\stopFLOWcell
\startFLOWcell
  \name  {informationsbearbetning}
  \location  {3,3}
  \shape {action}
  \text  {Informationsbearbetning}
  \connection[prb]{motor}
  \connection[nrt]{inkodning}
\stopFLOWcell
\stopFLOWchart

\framed{\FLOWchart[pa-er-cycle]}

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 12/12/07, Ulrich Dirr wrote:
 btw another question: will luatex interpret ligature rules which are
 language specific? At least from otf fonts?

LuaTeX (MK IV, not plain LuaTeX) will pass the language to the font
automatically (lang=DEU for \mainlanguage[de] for example).
Unfortunately most fonts are too stupid to make use of that
information, but the general answer is yes, I guess.

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Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX float pages in ConTeXt

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Michael,

maybe this is a help

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20070221.092820.718b7eb5.en.html

untested, as I have no time..


Best wishes, Peter

Santy, Michael schrieb:
 Thanks, Aditya.  However, I'm don't think that
 \setupfloat[figure][default=here,top,bottom,page] addresses my need for
 float pages.  If you compile the document below, you'll notice that the
 figures at the end of the first section are floated throughout sections
 2-4.  I would like the rendering of the floats to catch up by placing
 the floats on float pages, before moving on to other text.  Is this
 possible in ConTeXt?
 
 \setupfloat[figure][default=here,top,bottom,page]
 
 \def\ipsum{%
 \par Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do
 eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad
 minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip
 ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in
 voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur
 sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt
 mollit anim id est laborum. }
 
 \starttext
 
 \section{First Section}
 
 \ipsum
 
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=5.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 \placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
 
 \section{Second Section}
 \ipsum
 \ipsum
 \ipsum
 
 \section{Third Section}
 \ipsum
 \ipsum
 
 \section{Third Section}
 \ipsum
 \ipsum
 
 \stoptext
 
 
 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX float pages in ConTeXt

2007-12-12 Thread Santy, Michael
Thanks, Aditya.  However, I'm don't think that 
\setupfloat[figure][default=here,top,bottom,page] addresses my need for float 
pages.  If you compile the document below, you'll notice that the figures at 
the end of the first section are floated throughout sections 2-4.  I would like 
the rendering of the floats to catch up by placing the floats on float pages, 
before moving on to other text.  Is this possible in ConTeXt?

\setupfloat[figure][default=here,top,bottom,page]

\def\ipsum{%
\par Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit, sed do eiusmod 
tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, 
quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo 
consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse 
cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non 
proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum. }

\starttext

\section{First Section}

\ipsum

\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=5.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}
\placefigure {Blah} {\externalfigure[figurename][width=5.0in, height=3.0in]}

\section{Second Section}
\ipsum
\ipsum
\ipsum

\section{Third Section}
\ipsum
\ipsum

\section{Third Section}
\ipsum
\ipsum

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:26:08AM +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
 
 Another German, and I agree, too, with every point Peter makes. As an  
 addition: I would vote for keeping ` and '. I know that  
 \quotation{ } is better and have been using it for a while now, but I  
 also know that many older documents still have the old quotes, and  
 when I began using TeX, they were considered standard. I think it's  
 better to gently convince users to switch to the better style, not  
 force them by breaking their documents.

Hello,

In general, I vote against keeping such features just for some old
documents, because:
- recompiling an old document with a recent ConTeXt-version, will give you
  problems in almost every case anyway, since ConTeXt is evolving
  constantly, old bug get fixed, new bugs come, workarounds have to be
  adapted
- it's easy to translate old documents with tools like sed
- it's easy to burn a CD-ROM with an old distribution to recompile old
  documents
- it's easy to keep the pdf somewhere (that's what I do)


Just to give you an example: my brother's thesis compiles fine with version
2007.01.12, but when I try it today, it stops with

! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again 
   \def 
\dohandlemathpunctuation #1#2-\def 
\next {\csname \ifx \space \nexttoken #2...
argument \??fs chemic,
bib,typearea,chromato
\ifundefined #1-\unless \ifcsname #1
 \endcsname 
\truefilename #1-\ifundefined {\??fs #1}
 #1\else \truefilename {\csname \??f...
to be read again ...hemic,bib,typearea,chromato}
  .}
...
l.55 


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[NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Münster
Hello,

With the latest ConTeXt-versions (current and beta), the compilation of
the following test-files hangs with 100% cpu-usage:

% engine=luatex
\starttext
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

No problem with nc=2.

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Re: [NTG-context] What's the ps_name of AdobeMingStd-Light?

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 Yes I did this and I changed my font settings for the title page to
 \definedfont in my document takes now 80 seconds for a single run
 but it spends most of the time for font loading.

much overhead is related to things like setting up math, synchronizing 
encodings, mappings, (and hz, protruding if enabled) .. keep in mind 
that we're talking of font systems, not one font

 But you can beat the process time of plain TeX which can be used
 in simple documents where you can reduce the time with a few tricks.
 My process time for vocabulary cards from a xml file is below 1 second
 and I have more than 4.000 pages ;-) Doing the same thing woth ConTeXt's
 old xml interface and XeTeX takes 30 seconds and I won't talk about mkiv.

it all depends on what functionality is needed (take pagebody 
construction, which in plain is hardly present, backgrounds, color, etc 
etc) and in the case of xml it also depends on what 'defineXML' commands 
are used; things like namespaces (fallbacks), attributes etc etc ... 
many things play a role and i'm pretty sure that the critical parts of 
context are quite optimized; for sure many (simple) docs can be 
processed using plain tex but as soon as you need a bit more ...

(btw, xml in mkiv is quite different, since it operates on trees)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] extended dictionary / hyphenation patterns

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Ulrich Dirr wrote:

 btw another question: will luatex interpret ligature rules which are
 language specific? At least from otf fonts?

is already supported

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:

 ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
 to be read again 
\def 
 \dohandlemathpunctuation #1#2-\def 

could be a bug, or a changed definition of something math ..

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 12/12/07, Peter Münster wrote:
 Hello,

 In general, I vote against keeping such features just for some old
 documents, because:

Also, if one decides to use LuaTeX/XeTeX instead of pdfTeX (s)he must
have some reason and might be willing to do some minor changes to the
document if needed.

(Disabling regimes would be an interesting experiment too :-) :-) :-)
Not that I was the one who has forced their support :-)

 - it's easy to burn a CD-ROM with an old distribution to recompile old
   documents

Not necessary, since you might also need older binaries and fonts.

 - it's easy to keep the pdf somewhere (that's what I do)

[not to be taken too seriously:]

The bad news is that PDFs are usually kept exactly at the place where
a new version of the document (even if it cannot be compiled at all)
overwrites the old one (that's what I usually do/what TeX does for me
:). And once ConTeXt starts complaining, it's already too late (the
file has gone). :) :) :)

But yes - before recompiling an old document, a backup is not a bad idea at all.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 (Disabling regimes would be an interesting experiment too :-) :-) :-)
 Not that I was the one who has forced their support :-)

you mean in mkiv? the price is not that big there (also, it's of by 
default)

 But yes - before recompiling an old document, a backup is not a bad idea at 
 all.

also keep in mind that context is just part of a bigger thing ... fonts 
(under development, names change, places change, metrics change), 
patterns, auxiliary files (map files etc) ...

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
 Hello,
 
 With the latest ConTeXt-versions (current and beta), the compilation of
 the following test-files hangs with 100% cpu-usage:
 
 % engine=luatex
 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext
 
 No problem with nc=2.

latest beta does this ok

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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
On Dec 12, 2007 9:34 PM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 With the latest ConTeXt-versions (current and beta), the compilation of
 the following test-files hangs with 100% cpu-usage:

 % engine=luatex
 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext

 No problem with nc=2.

 Cheers, Peter

frozen here too

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(./test0010.tex
ConTeXt  ver: 2007.12.07 19:14 MKIV  fmt: 2007.12.12  int: english/english



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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote:
 On Dec 12, 2007 9:34 PM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 With the latest ConTeXt-versions (current and beta), the compilation of
 the following test-files hangs with 100% cpu-usage:

 % engine=luatex
 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext

 No problem with nc=2.

 Cheers, Peter
 
 frozen here too
 
 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007120806 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 (./test0010.tex
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.12.07 19:14 MKIV  fmt: 2007.12.12  int: english/english

can you try todays binary?

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[NTG-context] MkIV on Ubuntu

2007-12-12 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi,

I am trying to install mkiv on ubuntu. I installed luatex from Norbert 
Preinin's  Debian sources and used ctxtools --update to get the latest 
version of ConTeXt. In order to get luatools --generate to work, I needed 
to TEXMFCACHE and SELFAUTOPARENT environmental variables. After that, 
format creation seemed to work.

ctxtools --contextversion gives
CtxTools | context version: 2007.12.11 22:14 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex)
CtxTools | context version: 2007.12.11 22:14 
(/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex)

luatools lmr10.afm gives

/usr/share/texmf/fonts/afm/public/lm/lmr10.afm

(which is ok, expcept that there is an extra new line).

However, mtxrun --script fonts --list --pattern=pagella gives
MtxRun | unknown script: fonts

When I try to compile a simple \starttext hello world \stoptext 
document with luatex, I get.

TeXExec | processing document 'test.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file test.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 691
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en

This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007121112 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(./test.tex
! LuaTeX error cannot open : No such file or directory.
inserted text ...stance,luat-env.lua,tex)) }
   \ctxlua {if not 
lua.byteda...
everyjob \the \everyloadluacode
   \the \everyfinalizeluacode \the 
\everyjob
l.1
 \starttext


This is strange. Because locate luat-env.lua gives
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua

and kpsewhich luat-env.lua gives
/usr/local/share/texmf/tex/context/base/luat-env.lua

I do not undestand what is happening. Any suggestions?

Aditya
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[NTG-context] Combining eps figures into a single document

2007-12-12 Thread Dave
Hi all,

I am not sure if there is an easy way to do this with a generic
ConTeXt document but I thought I'd ask anyways.  I have a folder full
of identically sized data plots saved as eps/pdf files and I was
wondering if there was a quick way to shrink and tile them into a
multi-page document so that I get 15 plots per page (5 rows x 3
colums)?  I have scripts that generate these plots and I literally
have hundreds of them that I need to combine and print.  Any ideas?

Many thanks,
Dave
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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
 % engine=luatex
 \starttext
 \bTABLE
 \bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
 \eTABLE
 \stoptext


 can you try todays binary?

hmm, frozen  again.

I have download nove last context release:
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007120806 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(./test0010.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.12.07 19:14 MKIV  fmt: 2007.12.13  int: english/english


What binary do you mean ?


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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
On Dec 13, 2007 12:22 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 luigi scarso wrote:
  On Dec 12, 2007 9:34 PM, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  With the latest ConTeXt-versions (current and beta), the compilation of
  the following test-files hangs with 100% cpu-usage:
 
  % engine=luatex
  \starttext
  \bTABLE
  \bTR \bTD[nc=3] x\eTD\eTR
  \eTABLE
  \stoptext
 
  No problem with nc=2.
 
  Cheers, Peter
 
  frozen here too
 
  This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007120806 (Web2C 7.5.6)
  (./test0010.tex
  ConTeXt  ver: 2007.12.07 19:14 MKIV  fmt: 2007.12.12  int: english/english

 can you try todays binary?
Ah, ok;
now compilation is ok, and pdf too .

This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007121216 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(format=cont-en 2007.12.13)  13 DEC 2007 06:30
**test0010.tex
(./test0010.tex

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[NTG-context] [OT] Merry_Christmas_2007

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
ok,
until the end of this year
I will be a bit.. ahem, ..well , hard to say, busy around the world
expecially in between 24 and 25 dec.,
It's a temporary job, only for this year, and I have no experience at all
because it's my first time;
so any comments and suggestions to improve the service
would be appreciate.

Please mail (not email, sorry) to
Christmas_2007
Exactly_in_the_centre_of_North_Pole
North_Pole


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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
(repost --sorry --)
 can you try todays binary?
Also ok
 with trunk from svn

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Re: [NTG-context] hanging with \bTD[nc=3]

2007-12-12 Thread luigi scarso
 can you try todays binary?
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.20.1-2007121306 (Web2C 7.5.6)
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**test0010.tex
(./test0010.tex

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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2007-12-12 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:39:50PM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 
 (Disabling regimes would be an interesting experiment too :-) :-) :-)
 Not that I was the one who has forced their support :-)

Indeed, since now we're living in an utf-world!

  - it's easy to burn a CD-ROM with an old distribution to recompile old
documents
 
 Not necessary, since you might also need older binaries and fonts.

More precisely: TeX-distribution (not ConTeXt-distribution)

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