Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > Adobe like AdobeSongStd don't have a "hang" script at all anyway. Do > you know fonts that have? btw, the same is true for japanese and korean ... i like these glyphs and playing with them but i need input from users on how to organize things, i.e. script/lang combin

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> You need the hang script, it takes care about the linebreak. > > What do you mean? How does it take care about the linebreak? And how > can it be relevant for Chinese characters? Default Chinese fonts from > Adobe like AdobeSongStd don't have a "hang" script at al

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> This is wrong, fon-otf contains a few lua macros about linebreaking > and char-def has information about the character width (full width, > half width ...) > and other information like opening punctuation, parenthesis but none > of them is finished. OK, I thought line breaking would be managed

[NTG-context] update

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, i uploaded a fix for the reported problems; the uploaded version also uses lua for locating files that have to be included; this should work with the mkiv xml too (i forgot who asked for that but i needed it myself too) -- -

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >>> You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). >> Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the >> platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). > > Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the > platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32 & akira's windows > b

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> i'm not going to waste time on protruding in mkiv, later this year we > will have proper font related protruding and hz tables and then i will > pick up that thread Anyway, if you read Yue's reply, he says the glyphs should not protrude in Chinese anyway ;-) But I'm pretty sure they can in

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> Do you mean simply closer to the margin, or in the margin itself >> (protruding)? Protruding is already possible in pdfTeX; I believe it is >> available in LuaTeX as well, although it might be broken for the moment >> (Taco?). > > Protrusion

Re: [NTG-context] header to register

2008-01-28 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-01-28 um 09:16 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: >>> You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use >>> deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame. >> >> Thank you, I always forge

Re: [NTG-context] \placeregister[index][compress=yes] BROKEN ??

2008-01-28 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 28.01.2008 um 18:45 schrieb Taco Hoekwater: > Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> Hi, >> >> please have a look at following minimal: > > I can confirm that it is indeed broken, but because of the > mkii/mkiv split, it is hard for me to track the exact cause. > Do you happen to know when the last moment

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 1:36 AM, Mojca Miklavec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > > You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). > > Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the > platforms I have a

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Jan 28, 2008 6:43 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > >> You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). > > > > Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the > > platforms I ha

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But luatools should be patched as well. Passing an argument completely > coverd in quotes is not right, even if it accidentally does work with > the latest binary. That's what I thought, too. Thanks for confirming it. Arthur ___

Re: [NTG-context] \placeregister[index][compress=yes] BROKEN ??

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > Hi, > > please have a look at following minimal: I can confirm that it is indeed broken, but because of the mkii/mkiv split, it is hard for me to track the exact cause. Do you happen to know when the last moment (i.e. context release) was that it *did* work? Best wishes,

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). > > Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the > platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32 & akira's windows > b

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Jan 28, 2008 5:02 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). Should I update binaries to the latest SVN version of LuaTeX? (for the platforms I have access to, i.e. mac intel, linux 32 & akira's windows bin) Mojca __

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Jikes, I am afraid luatools is too new now: this needs the luatex > trunk, > not beta-0.20.0 :-( > Well, I can confirm that things work with a fresh svn checkout and the latest current. Funny, Taco and Hans racing each other :-) All best

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
Thank you very much for your mail! On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Arthur Reutenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is > no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf > seem to use t

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> actually, there is code in there but you need to specify chinese as feature > > \definefontfeature >[chinese-traditional] >[mode=node,script=hang,lang=zht] > \definefontfeature >[chinese-simple] >[mode=node,script=hang,lang=zhs] OK, but "hang" should still be replaced by "hani

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > > Do you mean simply closer to the margin, or in the margin itself > (protruding)? Protruding is already possible in pdfTeX; I believe it is > available in LuaTeX as well, although it might be broken for the moment > (Taco?). Protrusion should be available in luatex

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Yue Wang wrote: > LuaTools | running command: luatex --ini "--lua=cont-en.luc" Jikes, I am afraid luatools is too new now: this needs the luatex trunk, not beta-0.20.0 :-( ___ If your question is of interest to othe

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 28, 2008 3:17 AM, Arthur Reutenauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is > no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf > seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. This is wro

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 28, 2008 1:11 PM, Yue Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. > As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and > download the file, unzip it and run. > after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv for

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is > no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf > seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. > > I would like to answer more completely, but don't have much time for

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
You need a very recent luatex from the SVN trunk (revision >= 979). Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: > Hi, > > I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. > As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and > download the file, unzip it and run. > after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) > I run Debian

Re: [NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: > Hi, > > I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. > As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and > download the file, unzip it and run. > after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) > I run Debian

Re: [NTG-context] MKIV Chinese typesetting

2008-01-28 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hello, Thanks for this comprehensive review. If I'm not mistaken, there is no specific code for CJKV typesetting in Mark IV; the examples in mk.pdf seem to use the generic font loading mechanism. I would like to answer more completely, but don't have much time for the moment. About

[NTG-context] the new minimal is broken

2008-01-28 Thread Yue Wang
Hi, I see the Jan 26 version of context so I just want to upgrade my system. As what I did before, go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ and download the file, unzip it and run. after rsync, it cannot generate the mkiv format (other formats are fine) I run Debian on x86 intel machine. I had d

Re: [NTG-context] header to register

2008-01-28 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Jan 23, 2008 10:04 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2008-01-22 um 11:31 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: > > You could try to write \expanded{index{#1}} and use > > deeptextcommand=\TitleFrame. > > Thank you, I always forget about \expanded, and I didn't know about > deeptextcom