Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is a new version of luatex and mkiv. You need to update them together. The best place to get them is the contextgarden (which will probably have the new versions pretty soon). This

Re: [NTG-context] new version

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, concerning the mplibrary in mkiv ... - it does not use the metafun mem file; when formats are generated a special mem file is made and put alongside the context format - however, this only happens when a new version is

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luatex + context mkiv is indeed independent [of Ruby] - index sorting takes place in mkiv - job control is done with mtxrun/mtx-context Now that I've been told the idea is at least possible, I've

Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: works ok on my machine using pdftex but luatex gives an unknown

Re: [NTG-context] new version

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, concerning the mplibrary in mkiv ... - it does not use the metafun mem file; when formats are generated a special mem file is made and put

Re: [NTG-context] new version

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: This was something i never understood in the past, the difference between the name setting for buffers and MP graphics. the mp related commands are low level commands, there was never a high level interface to it (using [] etc)

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Maurice Diamantini
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:18, Hans Hagen a écrit : This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is different. What will allow

[NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi, is it possible to produce DVI files with Mark IV. I tried a simple file like \starttext text \stoptext with the command texexec --lua --backend=dvipdfm filename The content from my log file is (./dvi.tex ConTeXt ver: 2008.03.24 23:24 MKIV fmt: 2008.4.8 int: english/english language

[NTG-context] Streams

2008-04-11 Thread Roman Sigg
Hello For a publication project in phonetics and dialectology I'd like to print the phonetic transcription and the dialect text in a two column setup. I would be interested to use context for that (more flexibility than LaTeX), but every new paragraph is printed on a new page (as Henning

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi, is it possible to produce DVI files with Mark IV. I tried a simple file like \starttext text \stoptext with the command texexec --lua --backend=dvipdfm filename no, at quite some places i've hardcoded a pdftex backend at some point i will redo the

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Maurice Diamantini wrote: Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:18, Hans Hagen a écrit : This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. This bring down metapost runtime and conversion to nearly zero. The user interface is the same, but the implementation is

Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure

2008-04-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] staticMPfigure

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: I know. MyWay about \sometxt mentions currentcolor, but it's kind of tricky enough to find the proper manual with the needed information when one is looking for it. Using \sometxt instead of btex ... etex would be much more efficient as well, it has not been a secret,

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo, This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. is there or will der be a documented interface description for mplib. Wolfgang ___ If your question

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: Hallo, This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. is there or will der be a documented interface description for mplib. In the luatex reference manual (for now).

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: Hallo, This release of is rather substantial: no longer is metaposts called, but mplib is used instead. is there or will der be a documented interface description for mplib. it's in the luatex ref manual Hans

Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables, offsets

2008-04-11 Thread Santy, Michael
Wolfgang, Can you use the leftoffset/rightoffset on individual table cells? Thanks, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Wolfgang Schuster Sent: Fri 4/11/2008 8:13 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Natural tables, offsets On Sun,

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luatex + context mkiv is indeed independent [of Ruby] - index sorting takes place in mkiv - job control is done with

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one option is to write a dedicated fetch script, load the minimals for luatex use only (is an option) and then look at the files you need Any clues for how to go about this? i wonder if it's worth the trouble because all

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many other OpenType fonts that get fetched by default as well. And maybe the whole bin/common can be left out in that case (maybe windows still needs some libraries). So there is still some space that could

[NTG-context] Module documentation

2008-04-11 Thread richard . stephens
Hello all, I have been using Context for a while now and have learnt a lot from the manuals and wiki. I now want to start to use features that are not documented. On the wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Official_ConTeXt_Documentation#ConTeXt_Sources) I found the following command for

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread luigi scarso
See my reply to Hans (about five minutes before this message); it's complexity of installation and options, not disc usage, that I'm trying to minimize. A bit off-topic: mayb we can also think a context-live iso img. -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread luigi scarso
at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ? -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: one option is to write a dedicated fetch script, load the minimals for luatex use only (is an option) and then look at the files you need Any clues for how to go about this?

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM, luigi scarso wrote: See my reply to Hans (about five minutes before this message); it's complexity of installation and options, not disc usage, that I'm trying to minimize.

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/11, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xps ? http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2007-April/007112.html Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:32 PM, luigi scarso wrote: See my reply to Hans (about five minutes before this message); it's complexity of installation and options, not disc usage, that I'm trying to minimize. A bit off-topic: mayb we can also think a context-live iso img. I have

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ? mars - Hans

[NTG-context] mplib undefined commands

2008-04-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello Hans, I have modified the gnuplot module a bit, and stumbled upon: 1.) the need for \ifx\savebuffer\undefined \else \savebuffer[...]\fi which has been expected 2.) undefined command \forceMPTEXcheck{put_text} I have now used a wrapper to skip that line in LuaTeX (btw: what's the

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Olivier Guéry
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ? Do you plan some support for the ebooks formats (epub, mobipocket) ?

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/11, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What about an image to run with a virtual machine ? Much better. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Olivier Guéry wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:34 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ? Do you plan some support for the ebooks

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luigi scarso wrote: at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really makes sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future formats xps ? mars A very nice subject to discuss here at

[NTG-context] t-bib and interactivity for url= and doi=

2008-04-11 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi, in principle, I expect that with the following setup I should be able to click on a DOI or on a URL, however, somehow they do not seem to be interactive - and the DOI does not seem to be hyphenated agressively as it sometimes extends beyond the page margin. Any idea? I use the following

Re: [NTG-context] t-bib and interactivity for url= and doi=

2008-04-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Tobias Burnus wrote: Hi, in principle, I expect that with the following setup I should be able to click on a DOI or on a URL, however, somehow they do not seem to be interactive It turns out that only \cite[url] is interactive in the current version of the module. I can fix that pretty

Re: [NTG-context] new version luatex / mkiv

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo, is there or will there be a documented interface description for mplib. In the luatex reference manual (for now). http://foundry.supelec.fr/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/tags/beta-0.25. 2/manual/?root=luatex This manual is not viewable without deleting a html-frame. Or what I am

Re: [NTG-context] Streams

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-11 um 11:45 schrieb Roman Sigg: For a publication project in phonetics and dialectology I'd like to print the phonetic transcription and the dialect text in a two column setup. I would be interested to use context for that (more flexibility than LaTeX), but every new paragraph is

[NTG-context] solution for problem with m-chemic.tex

2008-04-11 Thread Peter Münster
Hello, It's a repost, because version 2008.04.10 still fails: What about the integration of this patch from Wolfgang Schuster into the distribution: - Forwarded message from Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:57:37 +0100 From: Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt ultraminimals (was re: Perl/Ruby dependency)

2008-04-11 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any clues for how to go about this? There are two options: 1.) take a look at first-setup.sh (really stupid script); you can call mtx-update with --engine=luatex As opposed to --engine=all? Sounds good so far.

[NTG-context] mplib

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo, the following compiles ok, but gives me an status 3=fatal error. Can someone please point me to the error? \startlua mp = mplib.new ( { hash_size = 10, main_memory = 200, param_size = 10, } ) if mp then res = mp:execute( beginfig(1) draw (0,0) .. (1,1) ..

[NTG-context] luatexing

2008-04-11 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo, I have a few silly questions about tex.print() To produce $\sqrt{2}=1.4142135623731$ it should be enough to write tex.print($\\sqrt{2}= .. math.sqrt(2) .. $) or better tex.print([[$\sqrt{2}=]] .. math.sqrt(2) .. $) but that's both not working. The following instead does

Re: [NTG-context] MkIV and DVI output

2008-04-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Martin Schröder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/11, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xps ? http://tug.org/mailman/htdig/pdftex/2007-April/007112.html hmm, http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2007/024777.html hans wrote ...i will look into that some time

Re: [NTG-context] Streams

2008-04-11 Thread Bert Trüger
On 4/11/08, Roman Sigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello For a publication project in phonetics and dialectology I'd like to print the phonetic transcription and the dialect text in a two column setup. I would be interested to use context for that (more flexibility than LaTeX), but every new