Re: [NTG-context] new options for \setupinteractionscreen

2008-04-20 Thread Vit Zyka
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Vit Zyka wrote:
 Dear ConTeXters,

 for PDF document one can set /PageLayout. It is a mode in which reader 
 shows us pages (Single, Continous, Facing, ...). in ConTeXt one can set

\setupinteractionscreen[option=doublesided]

 which set layout /TwoColumnRight (understand two facing continuous 
 pages with odd pages on the right side). Since PDF 1.5 there is a 
 possibility to set 3 more layouts:

/TwoColumnLeft
/TwoPageRight
/TwoPageLeft

 I poropose to incorporate next lines of code to sources to enable 
 setting of these layouts

% double=facing, column=continuous, right|left=where odd page
\setupinteractionscreen[
  option=doublecolumnleft,
  option=doublepageright,
  option=doublepageleft,
  option=doublecolumnright, % for compatibility = doublesided
  option=doublecolumn,  % for simplicity = doublecolumnright
  option=doublepage,% for simplicity = doublepageright
]
 
 another option is (less new keywords)
 
 option={doublesided,left,continue} % any order

Much cleverer! But in this case there is a backward incompatibility

   {doublesided,continue} = current {doublesided}
   {doublesided} = would mean NONcontinuous

Actually whenever I wanted to use facing layout, I wanted NONcontinuous. 
So I do not bother with this backward incompatibility. May be somebody 
else do?

Vit

 These names are derrived from curren naming convention (doublesided) 
 and PDF names. May be we can use more intuitive variants:
 option=facingright,
 option=facingleft,
 option=facingcontinuousright,
 option=facingcontinuousleft,

 Sorry I know English and Czech interface only and for FDF driver. May 
 be somebody add more.

 Vit

 Proposal:
 -
 % mult-con.tex
 \startvariablesdutch english
 germanczech
 italian   romanian
 french

  doublecolumnright: doublecolumnright doublecolumnright
 doublecolumnright dvasloupcevpravo
 doublecolumnright doublecolumnright
 doublecolumnright
   doublecolumnleft: doublecolumnleft  doublecolumnleft
 doublecolumnleft  dvasloupcevlevo
 doublecolumnleft  doublecolumnleft
 doublecolumnleft
   doublecolumn: doublecolumn  doublecolumn
 doublecolumn  dvasloupce
 doublecolumn  doublecolumn
 doublecolumn
doublepageright: doublepageright   doublepageright
 doublepageright   dvestrankyvpravo
 doublepageright   doublepageright
 doublepageright
 doublepageleft: doublepageleftdoublepageleft
 doublepageleftdvestrankyvlevo
 doublepageleftdoublepageleft
 doublepageleft
 doublepage: doublepagedoublepage
 doublepagedvestranky
 doublepagedoublepage
 doublepage
 \stopvariables

 % core-int
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumnright}{4} % compatibility
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumnleft}{5}  % new
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepageright}{6}   % new
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepageleft}{7}% new
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublecolumn}{4}  % compatibility
\setvalue{\??sc\c!option\v!doublepage}{6}% compatibility

 % spec-fdf.tex
 \def\doPDFsetupscreen#1#2#3#4#5#6% watch the extra argument
{\bgroup
\xdef\currentPDFpagemode
   {\ifnum#6=4
  /PageLayout /TwoColumnRight
\else\ifnum#6=5
  /PageLayout /TwoColumnLeft
\else\ifnum#6=6
  /PageLayout /TwoPageRight
\else\ifnum#6=7
  /PageLayout /TwoPageLeft
\else
  /PageMode \ifcase#6
  /UseNone\or/FullScreen\or/UseOutlines\else/UseNone\fi
\fi\fi\fi\fi}%
 \xdef\currentPDFviewerprefs % space after #6 needed, else \relax
   {\ifcase#6 \or\or\else /ViewerPreferences  /FitWindow true 
 \fi}%
 \egroup}
 

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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

2008-04-20 Thread luigi scarso
http://www.ink-media.com/index.html


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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

2008-04-20 Thread Robin Kirkham
On 20 April 2008, George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robin Kirkham  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my
  research group, [...]

 I can tell you a few things that don't work!  In our lab we have both
 TeX and Word users.  Many of them had been using a DOS package
 called papyrus, using a special markup that could be translated
 to tex (.bbl) files.  Nothing we found was really satisfactory, so
 we bought EndNote, which could import from papyrus via refer
 format and can export to almost bibtex.  One problem is that
 EndNote uses unicode, so we end up with è, etc. that must
 be translated for some user's versions of bibtex.  The database
 now has a nearly infinite variety of different quote marks:
 `a`, 'a', ``a'', a, etc. depending on how the entry was made
 (many are pasted from online or pdf sources).

 EndNote is really designed for individual users, although sold
 in bulk.  If 2 people open the same database on a shared
 drive they end up with a corrupt database.

 In my view, a bibliographic database needs to store each
 reference in the source or original format, whether bibtex,
 refer, or one of the newer forms, and provide translators
 and version tracking, so each file can have forks for different
 uses (e.g., ascii vs unicode char. sets) and edits can be
 preserved for the next user.  In practice, people just dump
 selected refs to a bib file, make the .bbl file, and fix problems
 there, so fixes rarely make it back to the master database.
 If they did, we would still have accents and quote marks
 being switched back and forth depending on who last used
 the entry.


Thanks George. EndNote is I believe the corporately-approved solution  
here, and similar disasters occur when people try and share its data  
files. For this reason I don't call these sorts of personal-level  
programs databases (any more than I'll call a .bib file a database).

The TeX folk don't fare much better. Multiple personal .bib files are  
common, often with duplicate references but different citation keys,  
leading to rather variable results depending on who run LaTeX/ConTeXt  
on the file. Inconsistency in data entry is also a problem, although  
for us, accents and quotes don't seem to too big a problem.  
(`Authorless', i.e., corporate author documents, like data sheets,  
seems to be more of an issue).

For this reason I'm looking for a proper SQL database solution like  
refdb or refbase (or maybe wikindx, thanks Andreas) with a web front- 
end that will hopefully enforce somewhat more consistent data entry,  
and maybe even auto-generate citation keys. Taco, your remarks  
regarding interchange formats are valuable (both refdb and refbase  
support MODS XML output).

Robin
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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

2008-04-20 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote:
 http://www.ink-media.com/index.html

the via c7 is ok but not enough mem for a decent tex installation and 
tex job; maybe we should define a kind of 'suited for tex' spec

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

2008-04-20 Thread Otared Kavian
How about the MacBook Air?…
It is some 1300 grams (but indeed more expensive).

Best regards: OK

On 19 avr. 08, at 11:42, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 Dear all,

 maybe this is off-topic, but I just wanted to tell you about my
 experiences (and sorry if this sounds like a sales pitch, it isn't!).
 Since I have a fairly long commute to work, I spend a lot of time on
 the train and like/need to do serious work there. When you have to
 schlepp it almost every day, a normal laptop seems pretty heavy after
 a while, that's why I got me one of those eeepc thingies. Its tiny
 screen and small keyboard scream I'm just a mobile device, not a
 replacement for a real computer, and it's not the fastest machine
 around. However, my joy is great whenever I stuff the little thing in
 my bag and lift it.

 I got the 8GB variant. To do work, I always want all my documents with
 me (so I can easily sync my entire Documents directory between work,
 home, and laptop) and, of course, my TeX installation. My texlive-
 texmf tree now is 1.6 G, so I needed a bit more space than the 4G
 model offers (models with larger screens and hard disks will be
 available soonish). It has a SDHC card reader, so I copied my
 Documents and the TeX installation to the internal disk (a SSD) and
 have my linux installation on a card from which I boot. With a shell
 script, I set the $PATH so I can mount the internal disk and run
 ConTeXt off of it. Everything works wonderfully. As I said, it's a
 slow machine, so you don't want to compile very long documents too
 often, but it does run every flavor of ConTeXt. I often prepare my
 presentations on the train, and this works great: I have the
 environment to which I'm used for editing the source files (emacs +
 ConTeXt) and a pdf viewer open in another workspace. This setup is one
 of the reasons why I prefer a texlive installation to a minimal
 ConTeXt tree: that way, I have to maintain it only once and can sync
 it between my computers. So whoever has to travel a lot: I find it
 wonderful to have such a small and light computer on the road.

 All best, have a nice weekend

 Thomas


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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts and other tips for thesis and other academic works

2008-04-20 Thread Suno Ano
 | On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:53:56 +0200,
 | Matija Šuklje
 | who can be reached at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | (whose comments are cited below with  Matija ),
 | had this to say in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | in newsgroups gmane.comp.tex.context
 | concerning the subject of Re: Fonts and other tips for thesis and other 
 academic works
 | (see [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more details)

 Matija Done. I've translated the comments. I hope it's comprehensible
 Matija for non-slovenian users now :)
Yes. thank you :-)

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Re: [NTG-context] maybe OT? ConTeXt on an EEEPC

2008-04-20 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared Kavian wrote:
 How about the MacBook Air?…
 It is some 1300 grams (but indeed more expensive).

indeed much more expensive (my current workhorse is a dell M90); i have 
a 17 in mac sitting dead on a desk for year snow ... too closed 
hard/software to figure out the problem (i could have bought 10 EEEPC's 
for the money)

anyhow, for me the ieee solution sounds like a nice way to carry tex to 
a conference instead of a production machine -)

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

2008-04-20 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Taco Hoekwater taco at elvenkind.com writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 Andreas Wagner wrote:
  Just out of curiosity: What are your reasons for preferring this over TEI:
 
 MODS was a logical choice mostly my background (scientific publishers
 = MARC databases = MODS), and that BruceD'Arcus liked it.  Btw,
 his blog is full of bibliographic articles, if you are interested:
 
http://community.muohio.edu/blogs/darcusb/
 
 (but it looks like he has switched over to RDF now)

Yes, but ...
 
 I am not really set to any particular xml format, and there are
 more mainstream choices (risx comes to mind).

... I'd say for the design of something like mbib v2 I'd advocate an internal
model that abstracts away from any particular more concrete representation. So
think in terms of maybe a standard input driver, but leave room for easy
development of others. 

There's some work going on a Python version of my citeproc effort, for example,
and he's planning input drivers for MODS, RDF, BibTeX, etc.

http://xbiblio.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xbiblio/citeproc-py/citeproc/

This makes is easy for someone to write another input driver for some SQL model.
 
 But the few times I've had to work with TEI stuff I found that you
 can easily get much more than you bargained for. Bibliographic data
 is not easy on its own, and a format that allows (almost promotes)
 extra tags to be embedded also is not helping at all.
 
 Look at this:
 
http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/html/ref-author.html
 
 Just the 'core' module is already pretty complex, but 'namesdates'
 and 'linking' are definately also required for a useful bibliographic
 database.
 
 The nice, consise examples in the TEI docs are misleading because
 
authorLucy Allen Paton/author
 
 is useless, more specifics are needed. We need at least this:
 
author
  persName
forenameLucy/forename
forenameAllen/forename
surnamePaton/surname
  /persName
/author
 
 But with the use of persName, there are suddenly a gazillion
 ways an author can encode the same name  (and it does not
 preclude any of the other ways to encode a name).
 
http://www.tei-c.org/release/doc/tei-p5-doc/html/ND.html#NDPER
 
 Etc. etc. Imagine having to support that in a simple context module.

In the XML citation style language I designed [1] (which *could* serve as the
basis for that internal model I mention above), there's an implicit notion
that any name can have both a sort form and a display form, and that they may
(but in contexts like Eastern Europe or Asia often don't) differ. 

This makes things in many ways both simpler, and more general (works for
organizations, as well as is more international-friendly than traditional
first/last). You just handle the details you note above in the input drive code.

Bruce

[1]
http://xbiblio.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/xbiblio/csl/schema/trunk/csl.rnc?view=markup

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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

2008-04-20 Thread Bruce D\'Arcus
Taco Hoekwater taco at elvenkind.com writes:

[snip]

 But the few times I've had to work with TEI stuff I found that you
 can easily get much more than you bargained for. Bibliographic data
 is not easy on its own, and a format that allows (almost promotes)
 extra tags to be embedded also is not helping at all.

... MODS has some of these issues too. Consider these are both valid:

name type=personal
  namePartJane Doe/namePart
  role
roleTerm type=textcreator/roleTerm
  /role
/name

name type=personal
  namePart type=givenJane/namePart
  namePart type=familyDoe/namePart
  role
roleTerm type=textcreator/roleTerm
  /role
/name

So in many formats there's a balance between flexibility and
brevity/predictability. 

FWIW, I've just settled on RDF for my own data needs between it provides the
formal rigor of relational databases (that XML per se lacks), but much more
flexibility. 

But as I said in the previous note, I don't think the data format has to matter
that much to formatting software (at its core that is).

Bruce

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[NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

2008-04-20 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi all,

how does one get an indention after a formula? The last paragraph shall 
be indented, but it is not. Any idea?

Tobias

\setupindenting[yes,1em,first]
\starttext
We start with a formula,
\placeformula
\startformula
a^2+b^2=c^2,
\stopformula
\noindent which was found by a Greek; it can also be written as
\placeformula
\startformula
a^2+b^2-c^2 = 0.
\stopformula

\indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

2008-04-20 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Sun, 20 Apr 2008, Tobias Burnus wrote:

 Hi all,

 how does one get an indention after a formula? The last paragraph shall
 be indented, but it is not. Any idea?

\setupformulas[indentnext=auto] (also try yes, default is no)

 Tobias

 \setupindenting[yes,1em,first]
 \starttext
 We start with a formula,
 \placeformula
 \startformula
 a^2+b^2=c^2,
 \stopformula
 \noindent which was found by a Greek; it can also be written as
 \placeformula
 \startformula
 a^2+b^2-c^2 = 0.
 \stopformula

 \indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

Use \indentation instead of \indent.

Aditya

 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indention problem after formula

2008-04-20 Thread Peter Münster
On Sun, Apr 20 2008, Tobias Burnus wrote:

 \stopformula
 
 \indent Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

There are at least 3 possibilities:

1.) \indentation Here, a new paragraph shall begin -- indented!

2.) \setupformulae[indentnext=yes]

3.) \setupformulae[indentnext=auto]
(for me the best one)

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

2008-04-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
 Von: Martin Schröder
 Datum: 20. April 2008 16:55:12 GMT+02:00
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
 Antwort an: German Language TeX Users Group Communication List TEX- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Wonderful 60 minutes of the BBC showing Stephen Fry recreating an the
 original Gutenberg printing process.

 http://www.fontblog.de/auf-den-spuren-gutenbergs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91smRXrEPRs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0FKWpNTUc
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souzdLjgrzM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIur4eiOR38
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNCvgSICbc
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWeMK-Q9NMQ

 Best
Martin



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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

2008-04-20 Thread Keith McKay

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Von: Martin Schröder
Datum: 20. April 2008 16:55:12 GMT+02:00
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press
Antwort an: German Language TeX Users Group Communication List TEX- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Wonderful 60 minutes of the BBC showing Stephen Fry recreating an the
original Gutenberg printing process.

http://www.fontblog.de/auf-den-spuren-gutenbergs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91smRXrEPRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0FKWpNTUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souzdLjgrzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIur4eiOR38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgNCvgSICbc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWeMK-Q9NMQ

Best
   Martin





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I'm not sure if this is available to those of you outside of the UK but 
here is the link to the BBC iPlayer for the show


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009wynj.shtml

It was a brilliant presentation.

Best Wishes

Keith McKay
Hamilton, Scotland, UK
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Stephen Fry and the Gutenberg Press

2008-04-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-04-20 um 23:00 schrieb Keith McKay:
 I'm not sure if this is available to those of you outside of the UK  
 but here is the link to the BBC iPlayer for the show

Unfortunately they block it:
http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/download_programmes/outsideuk


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