Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 30.05.2008 um 09:12 schrieb Yue Wang: advanced software, like InDesign Well, ... Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

[NTG-context] Wiki page about emacs-muse updated

2008-05-31 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hi all, The page on the wiki about emacs-muse and ConTeXt has been updated to show how you can use Thomas Schmitz's presentation module within muse: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_and_emacs-muse enjoy! -- Jean

[NTG-context] Buffers and commands with optional arguments

2008-05-31 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans, I got yesterday a bug report for my letter module if the \startletter command takes no arguments. The following example show the problem without the module. \def\startletter {\dosingleempty\dostartletter} \def\dostartletter[#1]% {\dostartbuffer[letter][startletter][stopletter]}

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-05-31 um 04:20 schrieb luigi scarso: There are still some areas where you need a programmable system, even trivia like chapter dependant running titles (in ConTeXt: headertexts). Isn't indesign programmable too ? I know people who use it in an automatic workflow for db publishing

Re: [NTG-context] Buffers and commands with optional arguments

2008-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \doifsomething{#1} {\tmpblockstartedtrue %\immediate\write\tmpblocks{\string#1}}% \immediate\write\tmpblocks{#1}}% i have no problem with the \long but changing the \string ... it's there for a reason so i need to look into it

Re: [NTG-context] split cells ? world lost !

2008-05-31 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, hope the answer to my question is not too obvious: How do I split not only TABLE but cells? Please, have a look at this minimal: \starttext \bTABLE[split=yes,option=stretch] \bTR \bTD \input tufte \input

Re: [NTG-context] Buffers and commands with optional arguments

2008-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi Hans, I got yesterday a bug report for my letter module if the \startletter command takes no arguments. The following example show the problem without the module. \def\startletter {\dosingleempty\dostartletter} \def\dostartletter[#1]%

Re: [NTG-context] Buffers and commands with optional arguments

2008-05-31 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans, On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \doifsomething{#1} {\tmpblockstartedtrue %\immediate\write\tmpblocks{\string#1}}% \immediate\write\tmpblocks{#1}}% i have no problem with the \long but

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread luigi scarso
Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every layout app can: - text flow around other elements (images) \parshape ? - really working multiple-column layout in context columnset with two pass strategy -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread Yue Wang
On 5/31/08, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every layout app can: - text flow around other elements (images) \parshape ? I forword an email to the professor. it discuss some of the points together with some examples.

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread luigi scarso
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Yue Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/31/08, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last night I remembered two more things that TeX can't do, but every layout app can: - text flow around other elements (images) \parshape ? I forword an email to the

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread luigi scarso
- much faster (i.e. I don't need to wait for several TeX runs e.g. if I need to check if some tweak fixed my page breaking) On average true for manual composition, maybe false for automatic workflow - optical (vs. metrical) kerning hz ? - a GUI ;-) and thus layout by let's try how it looks

[NTG-context] InDesign/InCopy vs. TeX and friends

2008-05-31 Thread Charles P. Schaum
I would say that TeX is a way in which a mathematician / theoretical computer scientist that is well-steeped in music, languages, art, literature, and other areas might approach the issue. InDesign is the way in which a large number in the design community might approach the issue. I use mainly

Re: [NTG-context] How could a typesetting system be today?

2008-05-31 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: - optical (vs. metrical) kerning hz ? all those kerning options can lead to rather bad text ... i get the impression that wrongly applied hz (extreme values) and intercharacter spacing and such in general lead to bad text ... i read quite some books and am sometimes