Re: [NTG-context] LuaTeX problems

2008-06-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tomi Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ConTeXt minimals is up and running but I have problems with LuaTeX.
 First the files I assume to be important:

 % Project
 \startproject atkmom

 \environment environ
 \product book

 \stopproject


 % Product
 \startproduct book

 \project atkmom

 \component images

 \startfrontmatter
\environment fmatter
\completecontent
 \stopfrontmatter

 \startbodymatter
\environment body
\component intro
\component osbasics
\component files
\component opera
 \stopbodymatter

 \startbackmatter
\completeindex[title=Hakemisto]
 \stopbackmatter

 \stopproduct


 With texexec my project results in proper .pdf file except the
 additional empty page at the end of it.

 With context the process ends after line \product book (I get a
 proper notice about the end of product book) in project file and i get
 the * prompt. It seems like LuaTeX can't see the \stopproject at
 all and thinks that the file has unexpectedly ended.

 Also with context I get messages that every \at, \in and \about that
 refers to something in component other than the one they're in is an
 unknown reference. They all work fine with texexec.

 Any idea what's wrong?

Both files work for me but I don't have your component or environment
files and there is a problem with the content in one of the files but as
long as you don't give us more information we can't help you.

Instead of sending us all other files you should make a minimal example
where we can reproduce the error.

Regards,
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:

 Perfect, all seems to work

 Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing, please add
 details there.

 So back to the other questions

 - This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx switch?:

 \definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
 \definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
 \definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond]
 \setupbodyfont[Optima]

 - How does font selection work under luatex?

 I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font selection in
 luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this.

I never used the short definition for XeTeX but fonts defined with the longer
form can be used with XeTeX and LuaTeX, you could use the same typescripts.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete.29_Typescript_Example
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080413.111450.d1603396.en.html
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080609.010650.0b8f9e15.en.html

You can find more threads in the list archive.

 - What have I to do to use bibtex?

 Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure
 what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have
 currently :). Now run
$context thesis
 This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them.
 Then run
$bibtex thesis
 This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will
 be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
 file).

 This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate run's in
 mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand.

 Aditya

Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Thanks to all,

Added some stuff here on the things I'm doing.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals

I have to say that I found some reduncy in mac infos (substantially I  
followed Mojca's post)


Obviously, please in case move/change the stuff

Best

-a-





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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle
Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to  
ensure

what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have
currently :). Now run
$context thesis
This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore  
them.

Then run
$bibtex thesis
This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings  
will

be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
file).



So, it's like latex? Have I to specify that I'm using the bib module?
I mean, this:

\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=semiotiche]

Best

-a-



This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate  
run's in

mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand.



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. F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really tasty

(Ken Perlin on noise)





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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Andrea Valle

Many thanks Wolfgang.
The fact is that I'm not understanding what's going on...

Best

-a-

On 27 Jun 2008, at 08:15, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:


Perfect, all seems to work


Great. If you found certain instructions on the wiki confusing,  
please add

details there.


So back to the other questions

- This means I can use something like this if I call the xtx  
switch?:


\definetypeface[Optima][rm][Xserif][Optima]
\definetypeface[Optima][tt][Xmono][LM Typewriter Regular]
\definetypeface[Garamond][rm][Xserif][Garamond]
\setupbodyfont[Optima]

- How does font selection work under luatex?


I don't know font selection in XeTeX, and understand font  
selection in

luatex only marginally, so I'll let someone else answer this.


I never used the short definition for XeTeX but fonts defined with  
the longer
form can be used with XeTeX and LuaTeX, you could use the same  
typescripts.


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Mark_IV#A_.28Complete. 
29_Typescript_Example
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080413.111450.d1603396.en.html
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080609.010650.0b8f9e15.en.html


You can find more threads in the list archive.


- What have I to do to use bibtex?


Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things  
to ensure
what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I  
have

currently :). Now run
   $context thesis
This will create a lot of warnings about missing references,  
ignore them.

Then run
   $bibtex thesis
This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those  
warnings will

be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
file).

This situation is temporary. When Hans implements intermediate  
run's in

mtxrun, you will not need to run bibtex by hand.

Aditya


Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Many thanks Wolfgang.
 The fact is that I'm not understanding what's going on...

You're not alone.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Understanding_how_fonts_work_in_ConTeXt

Ask what do you want to know and we can fill the gaps.

Regards,
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[NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Hi,

- ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
- XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

When using

(1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
title={éèçàù},
subtitle={éèçàù},
author={éèçàù},
keyword={éèçàù}]

the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
document properties fields while in the document itself
all is ok.

Qué passa ?


(2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives

! Undefined control sequence.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
 =5
?
! Emergency stop.
l.31 \pdfminorversion
 =5

What's the alternative ?

Thanks,
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Setting up minimals (saw: Re: distro info)

2008-06-27 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Andrea Valle wrote:

 Suppose your file is called thesis.tex (Ok, I had to test things to ensure
 what I was saying was true, and that is the only test file that I have
 currently :). Now run
  $context thesis
 This will create a lot of warnings about missing references, ignore them.
 Then run
  $bibtex thesis
 This will create tesis.bbl. Now run context, and all those warnings will
 be gone. You only need to run bibtex once (unless you change your bib
 file).
 

 So, it's like latex?

Well, not exactly. Let me explain how bibtex works in latex, and then how 
it works in context.

In latex, you write \cite{ref1}, \cite{ref2}, etc. to cite a document, 
\bibliographystyle{style} to tell the style of the references, and 
\bibliography{bib-file} to tell the name of the bib database. When you run 
latex on this file, for each \cite{ref1} latex writes \citation{ref1} into 
the aux file; for \bibliographystyle{style} it writes \bibstyle{style} and 
for \bibliography{bib-file} it writes \bibdata{bib-file}. Latex aux file 
contains all sort of auxillary information, but bibtex only reconizes the 
about three commands. When you run bibtex, it translates the references 
included in \citation from the bib-file to latex markup, as specified by 
the style file. These are stored in the bbl file.

All these features are hardcoded in bibtex, so it makes it difficult to 
use bibtex with anything other than latex. The bib module exploits a 
feature in bibtex to make it work with context. If you write \cite{*} in 
your latex document, latex writes \citation{*} in the aux file, and bibtex 
translates *all* the enteries in the bib-file to latex markup. So, the bib 
module writes \citation{*} to the aux file. Next, in order to get the 
references in a manner that context can understand, Taco has written a bib 
style file that translates the bib file to \start \stop publication style.
So, in terms of interaction with bibtex, bib module creates a very simple 
aux file

\citation{*}
\bibstyle{cont-no}
\bibdata{bib-file}

When you run bibtex on this, bibtex translates *all* the references in 
your bib file to context markup. On the second run, the bib module reads 
these commands, and stores everything as registers internally and uses 
ConTeXt inbuilt functions for sorting etc.

 Have I to specify that I'm using the bib module?

Usually, you only need to do:

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database=bib-file]
\setuppublications[alternative=ieee] % ieee is my own bib style
  % see documentation for other options

Normally (that is in mkii), context (rather texexec) runs bibtex after the 
first run behind the scenes. In mkiv running is not implemented in 
mtx-context script yet. So you need to run bibtex *once* after the first 
run. This will create the bbl file, which contains *all* your references 
in the bib file, so until you change your bib file, you do not need to run 
bibtex again. Again, this is temporary; once mtx-context allows for 
commands to be executed inbetween context runs, you will not need to run 
bibtex by hand.

 I mean, this:

 \usemodule[bibltx]

Normally you should not need to include the bibltx module. The bibltx 
module reads the bbl files created by bibtex for latex. Suppose you have 
an old latex project, and you only have its bbl file but not the bib file. 
Suppose you want to translate the project to context. 
Then rather than translating all your references back to bib 
format, the bibltx module allows you to use the bbl file created for 
latex. You should not need to do this for new projects.

 \setupbibtex[database=semiotiche]

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Re (1)

Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?

The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?

--- begin code ---

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setupinteraction[
title=ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ,
subtitle=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ,
author=àâæ ÀÂÆ,
keyword=àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ]

\starttext

À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ

à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ

\stoptext

--- end code ---


Thanks on beforehand,
Alan


2008/6/27 Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)

 When using

 (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
 title={éèçàù},
 subtitle={éèçàù},
 author={éèçàù},
 keyword={éèçàù}]

 the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
 document properties fields while in the document itself
 all is ok.

 Qué passa ?


 (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives

 ! Undefined control sequence.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 ?
 ! Emergency stop.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5

 What's the alternative ?

 Thanks,
 Alan

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[NTG-context] texshow-web questions

2008-06-27 Thread richard . stephens
As an eternal optimist, I often refer to texshow-web in the hope that I 
will find a function to help me, or a quick description of one that I 
already know.  In most cases I end up reverting to searching the manuals 
and source code.  I like the idea of texshow-web and I sometimes add notes 
to entries if I find our something interesting.  I would be quite happy to 
add lots more, but I have some questions and suggestions for improvements 
which I think would help.

1) Is there a way of adding a function to the list?  or can it be updated 
to include all the functions from the many macro packages included with 
the context distribution.  For example, in recent discussion group threads 
I have found out about the \digits command and the \filename and 
\hyphenatedfilename commands, none of which is in texshow-web.  I would 
have been happy to add notes on them if I could.

2) If I'm adding notes to a command, is it possible to add a URL link to a 
particular page in one of the manuals?  This would great for looking up a 
command and going straight to the relevant entry in the relevant manual.

Regards,

Richard Stephens 
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Khaled Hosny
I'm getting a bunch of ��ï symbols.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 04:22:14PM +0200, Alan Stone wrote:
 Re (1)
 
 Would somebody please de so kind to compile this minimal example
 with XeTeX and inform me what you see in the pdf's document
 properties for: title, subject, author and keywords ?
 
 The good looking characters or the messed up ones ?
 
 --- begin code ---
 
 \mainlanguage[fr]
 
 \setupinteraction[
 title=Ԍ,
 subtitle=   ,
 author=   ,
 keyword=   ]
 
 \starttext
 
  
 

 
 \stoptext
 
 --- end code ---
 
 
 Thanks on beforehand,
 Alan
 
 
 2008/6/27 Alan Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Hi,
 
 - ConTeXt  ver: 2008.06.22 17:38 MKII  fmt: 2008.6.23 ( ctx minimal)
 - XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.999.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 
 When using
 
 (1) \setupinteraction[state=start,
 title={ },
 subtitle={ },
 author={ },
 keyword={ }]
 
 the accented characters get al scrambled up in the pdf
 document properties fields while in the document itself
 all is ok.
 
 Qu  passa ?
 
 
 (2) \pdfminorversion=5 (or whatever) gives
 
 ! Undefined control sequence.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 ?
 ! Emergency stop.
 l.31 \pdfminorversion
  =5
 
 What's the alternative ?
 
 Thanks,
 Alan
 
 

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[NTG-context] Off-Topic: Down With Helvetica

2008-06-27 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid
Dear gang,

Many of you -- Hello luigi ;-) -- may be interested in this mainstream  
media article on font design:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/technology/personaltech/26basics.html?emex=1214712000en=a2063db595baad4aei=5087%0A

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[NTG-context] how to prevent document resize in acrobat reader when click on an ref object

2008-06-27 Thread Jan-Erik Hägglöf
HI!

I'm often use

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupcolor[state=start]

\starttext

\placesomething[somewhere][ref]{caption}
...
...
So in the text I refer to \in{something}[ref] so I can click on it in
the resulting pdf so I get there.

\stoptext

The question is how to change the default behavior so acrobat not
resizes the document on the screen when I'm clicking on the ref object.
I think it is annoying changing back to the reading size I had before.

Many thanks!

Janneman
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
Thanks Khaled.

In the meantime found
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDF_Bookmarks_and_Headers#PDF_Headers
so...

--- begin code ---

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setupinteraction[
   state=start,
   title={ÀÂÆ ÇÉÈÊË ÎÏÔŒ ÙÜŸ},
   subtitle={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ},
   author={àâæ ÀÂÆ},
   keyword={àâæ çéèêë îïôœ ùûüÿ}]

\starttext

À Â Æ Ç É È Ê Ë Î Ï Ô Œ Ù Ü Ÿ

à â æ ç é è ê ë î ï ô œ ù û ü ÿ

\stoptext

--- end code ---

Still scramled pdf headers.

Looking for an enlightened and enlightening soul...

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Alan Stone
FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message...

Have a good weekend everybody,
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Re: [NTG-context] how to prevent document resize in acrobat reader when click on an ref object

2008-06-27 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Jan-Erik Hägglöf wrote:


HI!

I'm often use

\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupcolor[state=start]

\starttext

\placesomething[somewhere][ref]{caption}
...
...
So in the text I refer to \in{something}[ref] so I can click on it in
the resulting pdf so I get there.

\stoptext

The question is how to change the default behavior so acrobat not
resizes the document on the screen when I'm clicking on the ref object.
I think it is annoying changing back to the reading size I had before.


Yes, I find that annoying too. However, it is easy to change

\setupinteraction[focus=standard]

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Re: [NTG-context] texshow-web questions

2008-06-27 Thread Hans Hagen
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 As an eternal optimist, I often refer to texshow-web in the hope that I 
 will find a function to help me, or a quick description of one that I 
 already know.  In most cases I end up reverting to searching the manuals 
 and source code.  I like the idea of texshow-web and I sometimes add notes 
 to entries if I find our something interesting.  I would be quite happy to 
 add lots more, but I have some questions and suggestions for improvements 
 which I think would help.
 
 1) Is there a way of adding a function to the list?  or can it be updated 
 to include all the functions from the many macro packages included with 
 the context distribution.  For example, in recent discussion group threads 
 I have found out about the \digits command and the \filename and 
 \hyphenatedfilename commands, none of which is in texshow-web.  I would 
 have been happy to add notes on them if I could.
 
 2) If I'm adding notes to a command, is it possible to add a URL link to a 
 particular page in one of the manuals?  This would great for looking up a 
 command and going straight to the relevant entry in the relevant manual.

if someone finda a command that is not in there and send me the correct 
xml definition i can add it

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Re: [NTG-context] pdf bizareness...

2008-06-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 FYI, log file in attachment. There's a ( for me obscure ) warning message...

you mean ...

[1.1]
** WARNING ** Could not open config file dvipdfmx.cfg.
stdin - minifr.pdf
[1]
5366 bytes written

probably harmless

Hans

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[NTG-context] searchable cyrillic in PDF files

2008-06-27 Thread Oleg Kolosov

Hans Hagen wrote:

Oleg Kolosov wrote:
  

Hans Hagen wrote:


Oleg Kolosov wrote:
 
  

Hello!

I'm trying to generate searchable pdf with cyrrillic glyphs with the 
following:


\enableregime[utf]
\mainlanguage[ru]
\setupencoding[default=t2a]
\useencoding[pfr]
\usepdffontresource t2a
\usetypescript[pscyr][\defaultencoding] % type-pscyr is my own 
typescript file

\setupbodyfont[pscyr,14pt]

also tried with:

\startencoding[t2a]
\usepdffontresource t2a
\stopencoding

It seems that \usepdffontresource does nothing. I see pdfr-def loaded 
in log, but not pdfr-t2a. \input pdfr-t2a (or pdfr-ec) says that 
\startpdffontresource is undefined command. I've created pdfr-t2a.tex 
by replacing definitions in pdfr-ec with ones from cmap latex package 
(found in file t2a.cmap). I'm using ConTeXt mkII since mkIV is in 
active development. Tried also with ec as default encoding with the 
same result (pdfr-ec.tex is not loaded).


Please help me create header for minimal file which will generate 
searchable PDF.


pdftex does it itself (i.e. create the vectors) using pdfr-def.tex 
(unless i did something wrong)


Hans

  
  
It's unlikely. I've tested it with minimal file and english text is 
indeed searchable, but cyrillic is not, with copy-paste I get some 
strange symbols. I'm using type1 fonts from PSCyr package with my own 
typescript, does this matter? I've attached  typescript file just in 
case (it's still incomplete but works fine for me). Maybe I miss some 
definition or option? BTW cyrillic in PDF TOC works fine (with inclusion 
of spec-tst.tex).



can you check if the file has the right entris for your font?

pdfr-def.tex

the old mechanism is obsolete so pdfr-t2a will not do anything

Hans

  
Codes seem to be in place but doesn't match actual font in T2A encoding. 
For ex. I have cyrillic capital a in font on 00C1 where in pdfr-def this 
is Aacute. According to enco-utf my 00C1 in font should map to 0410 
position (I hope this is understandable description). Maybe there is 
some switch to enable such mapping? I don't understand these 
encoding/mapping issues enough to create necessary table myself. Maybe 
you can provide some example, so I will be able to help?


P. S. Sorry for late response.

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Oleg Kolosov

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[NTG-context] Web links

2008-06-27 Thread Charles P. Schaum
If anyone is interested in a list of web links that I update roughly
quarterly and use both professionally and personally, s/he is welcome to
visit

http://yoel.info/links.htm

The links have lots of computing and humanities resources, among others.

Charles


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