Re: [NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Tomi Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I wrote a sorter for finish but we should test it before it can be included.

 I'll give it a try later. And just by glancing there's an ordering
 error - 'å' should be before 'ä'. I assume I just add the luacode
 section to my environment, switch locations of 'å' and 'ä' and that's
 it?

Yes, yes and yes.

You have to switch ä and å but I corrected my version.

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Oliver Buerschaper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have you tried what will happen with a enabled backaddress and
 no value for backaddress, fromname and fromaddress are shown
 as backaddress but I don't rely on this feature and change it to
 waht you suggested.


 I've just tried this quickly and this seems even better … then what
 about removing the option backaddress=yes from \setupletterstyle
 and provide a key auto for backaddress in \setupletter? Thus:

 1. No backaddress line

 \setupletter
   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown}]

 2. backaddress line generated from sender information

 \setupletter
   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
backaddress=auto]

 3. Custom backaddress

 \setupletter
   [fromname={Arthur Thor},
fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
backaddress={Thor Inc., Mystery Street 5, 59875 Hidden Town}]

 In this case there would be no need for name=yes etc.

\usemodule[letter]

\starttext

\setupletter
  [list={name,date},
   name={Oliver Buerschaper}]

\startletter
\input knuth
\stopletter

\stoptext

Regards,
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Letter backaddress

2008-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Oliver Buerschaper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I could support name=yes and alike but I can't drop the
 \setupletter[list=...] because you need it to define your own
 reference
 line with personalized elements, e.g. your working in a company
 a put a sign for the letter there plus the number of the office etc.

 I'm sorry, didn't think of that. It makes sense, of course.


 Another possibility would be removing the backaddress=yes switch
 completely. Then if backaddress data is supplied it's printed along
 with the line below and if not, well, then leave out the separator
 line.

 What do you think?

 Have you tried what will happen with a enabled backaddress and
 no value for backaddress, fromname and fromaddress are shown
 as backaddress but I don't rely on this feature and change it to
 waht you suggested.

 I've just tried this quickly and this seems even better … then what
 about removing the option backaddress=yes from \setupletterstyle
 and provide a key auto for backaddress in \setupletter? Thus:

I don't remove backaddress from \setupletterstyle because each layer
has a boolean switch and I don't want a backaddress on my letters.

 1. No backaddress line

 \setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown}]

 2. backaddress line generated from sender information

 \setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress=auto]

 3. Custom backaddress

 \setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress={Thor Inc., Mystery Street 5, 59875 Hidden Town}]

I uploaded a new release with the option yes, auto and no for the
backaddress key, yes and auto use fromname and fromaddress,
no sets no backaddress and you can write a cutomized backaddress
with anything else as content for the backaddress key.

Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Tomi Lindberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/7/3, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I wrote a sorter for finish but we should test it before it can be 
 included.
 I'll give it a try later. And just by glancing there's an ordering
 error - 'å' should be before 'ä'. I assume I just add the luacode
 section to my environment, switch locations of 'å' and 'ä' and that's
 it?
 
 Yes, yes and yes.
 
 You have to switch ä and å but I corrected my version.

i added the vector to sort-lan.lua


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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-04 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi,

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Which modules are needed for TeX Live 2008?
   
Talking about modules: Can the current m-bib be included in cont-tmf and 
thus in TeX Live? I recently updated cont-tmf and had then to update 
m-bib to get bibtex correctly working again.

Another side question: What is with 
http://modules.contextgarden.net/nath ? Clicking the directory link. all 
ConTeXt modules are shown, but I *cannot find* that module. I find two 
files - but only if I click on the CTAN link.

Tobias

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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Tobias Burnus wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 Which modules are needed for TeX Live 2008?
   
 Talking about modules: Can the current m-bib be included in cont-tmf and 
 thus in TeX Live? I recently updated cont-tmf and had then to update 
 m-bib to get bibtex correctly working again.

ok (i need to sync that manually)

 Another side question: What is with 
 http://modules.contextgarden.net/nath ? Clicking the directory link. all 
 ConTeXt modules are shown, but I *cannot find* that module. I find two 
 files - but only if I click on the CTAN link.

at some point aditya needs to look into nath an dgiv ehis opinion; the 
problem is that nath is rather low level hooked into latex's font 
system; it's impressive stuff but i have no idea if it's still 
maintained; also, at some point we will redo that kind of things 
(breaking across lines and so) in lua


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[NTG-context] Switching compression on breaks start/stopregister

2008-07-04 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi,

there seems to be confusion with register entries vs. register ranges.
Please have a look:


\starttext
KNUTH ONE entry \index{Knuth}
\page
\input knuth
KNUTH START\startregister[index][knuthrange1]{Knuth}
\input knuth
KNUTH END\stopregister[index][knuthrange1]
\dorecurse{10}{\input zapf }
KNUTH START\startregister[index][knuthrange2]{Knuth}
\dorecurse{10}{\input knuth }
KNUTH END\stopregister[index][knuthrange2]
%\placeregister[index]% gives 1,2, 4-6
\placeregister[index][compress=yes]% gives 1-2, 4, 6
\stoptext


Switching compression on breaks start/stopregister!


Steffen

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[NTG-context] Problem with usemodule[letter]

2008-07-04 Thread Helmut Schwertner
Hello,

when I try to use the module letter with the following example, I get 
the only this:

:
system  : module letter loaded
(c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/plain/base/letter.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
l.13 \nopagenumbers

I use texlive2007 (latest beta) under windows xp. What ist wrong, what 
can I do?

Greetings,

Helmut




example:

\usemodule[letter]
\starttext


\setupletter
[fromname={Arthur Thor},
 fromaddress={Hidden Street 2\\57895 Mysterytown},
 backaddress={Arthur Thor, Hidden Street 2, 57895 Mysterytown}]

\setupletter
[toname={Mike Willson},
 toaddress={Lindenstreet 12\\78569 TeX City}]

\startletter
[subject={Step by step guide to writing a letter},
 opening={Dear Reader,},
 closing={Greetings from the Author}]

\input knuth

\stopletter
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with usemodule[letter]

2008-07-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Helmut Schwertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 when I try to use the module letter with the following example, I get
 the only this:

 :
 system  : module letter loaded
 (c:/TeXLive2007/texmf-dist/tex/plain/base/letter.tex

The letter file from DEK is loaded and not my own module.

 ! Undefined control sequence.
 l.13 \nopagenumbers

 I use texlive2007 (latest beta) under windows xp. What ist wrong, what
 can I do?

Use \usemodule[t][letter]

Regards,
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Finish register sorting (was LuaTeX problems)

2008-07-04 Thread Tomi Lindberg
That seems to work perfectly. Big thanks to Wolfgang.

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[NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] a note from the XeTeX author

2008-07-04 Thread Martin Schröder
-- Forwarded message --
From: Jonathan Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2008/7/3
Subject: [XeTeX] a note from the XeTeX author
To: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To the XeTeX user community:

This note is to let you know that for personal reasons, I have
submitted my resignation to SIL, where I have worked for a number of
years and where XeTeX development has been hosted. I remain
interested in and supportive of SIL's work with and for many
communities around the world, but with effect from the end of July, I
will no longer be working as a member of the organization.

I intend to continue working on XeTeX, which has always been driven
primarily by my own vision and interests, rather than initiated or
managed by SIL, and on other projects and activities in the TeX
world. So this should not have a major impact on development except
for occasional spells of distraction as I make various transitions
over the coming months. And I expect SIL will continue hosting the
XeTeX subversion repository on scripts.sil.org, at least for the time
being.

As I move on from SIL, I will of course need to find other ways to
earn a living. It's possible that someone among the XeTeX community
knows the perfect role for me... if so, I'd appreciate hearing of it!
You all know something of my interests and experience: TeX-related
software development, typesetting (with an emphasis on unusual
fonts and scripts; that's why XeTeX exists), OpenType and AAT font
engineering, etc. In the immediate future, I hope to work on a couple
of freelance projects in the font development and typesetting fields,
but would also consider a longer-term position if the right
opportunity comes along.

I hope list members will excuse me for posting this personal,
somewhat off-topic note. Feel free to ignore it, of course, but if
anyone has responses or comments for me I'd be glad to hear them. Off-
list replies (directly to me) are fine; let's not clutter everyone's
mailboxes.

Thanks for being such a great community of users and contributors. I
look forward to continuing participation in this group for a long
time to come.

Jonathan
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-07-04 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Hi all,

3 months ago (on Friday, April 4) I asked about an option for luatex to
automatically put ties before one-letter words.  Hans asked me to remind
about it in a few months, so I do it now;).  (I can't answer in that
thread since I delete old mails:( ).

BTW, I guess such a feature might be also useful for other purposes.

Anyway, I didn't read the ConTeXt list lately, but I'll soon start using
it on a more regular basis, so expect many newbie questions...

Thanks in advance:)

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People can be divided into three groups: those who can count and those
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-07-04 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Hi Marcin,

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:54:26 -0600, Marcin Borkowski  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3 months ago (on Friday, April 4) I asked about an option for luatex to
 automatically put ties before one-letter words.  Hans asked me to remind
 about it in a few months, so I do it now;).  (I can't answer in that
 thread since I delete old mails:( ).

 BTW, I guess such a feature might be also useful for other purposes.

Interesting, I was thinking about something similar recently:

A user should be able to define or augment a database such that  
many-to-most ties are done automatically:

a~propos
Dr.~[A-Z]
[1--9]~CE % historical dates
[1--9]~{\sc CE}

This issue is analogous to hyphenation: one could have rules for each  
language etc.

I guess this is a mkiv issue, not a luatex issue per se.

Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-07-04 Thread Olivier
Quoting  Idris Samawi Hamid ?? ??  :
 -- was [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Jul 04, 2008 at 08:23:19AM --

 On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:54:26 -0600, Marcin Borkowski  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  3 months ago (on Friday, April 4) I asked about an option for luatex to
  automatically put ties before one-letter words.  Hans asked me to remind
  about it in a few months, so I do it now;).  (I can't answer in that
  thread since I delete old mails:( ).
 
  BTW, I guess such a feature might be also useful for other purposes.
 
 Interesting, I was thinking about something similar recently:
 
 A user should be able to define or augment a database such that  
 many-to-most ties are done automatically:

I am a bit affraid by such a feature: there are cases where it is hard
to decide (automatically, because it means going down to the grammatical
level) if a tie has to be added or not. Therefore the end user always
have to choose the right thing to do: in one case, he has to add ties
when needed, in the suggested case he has to remove them. It seems to me
that the original problem is transformed into another dual one. 
(Of course, this might prove useful if there are less exceptions in the
end, but I'm a bit sceptical.)

Olivier

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Re: [NTG-context] modules for TeX Live 2008

2008-07-04 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

 Another side question: What is with
 http://modules.contextgarden.net/nath ? Clicking the directory link. all
 ConTeXt modules are shown, but I *cannot find* that module. I find two
 files - but only if I click on the CTAN link.

 at some point aditya needs to look into nath an dgiv ehis opinion; the
 problem is that nath is rather low level hooked into latex's font
 system; it's impressive stuff but i have no idea if it's still
 maintained;

I had tried nath a long time back, but found that it did not work in some 
cases (if I remember correctly, there was some trouble with accents). I 
wrote to the list, and got a reply from Giuseppe that it was a known 
bugs. But, from what I understand, in general it works correctly. So, it 
should be included.

 also, at some point we will redo that kind of things
 (breaking across lines and so) in lua

I have some ideas that I will talk about in the context user metting.

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] luatex feature question/request

2008-07-04 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:01:13 -0600, Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting, I was thinking about something similar recently:

 A user should be able to define or augment a database such that
 many-to-most ties are done automatically:

 I am a bit affraid by such a feature: there are cases where it is hard
 to decide (automatically, because it means going down to the grammatical
 level) if a tie has to be added or not. Therefore the end user always
 have to choose the right thing to do: in one case, he has to add ties
 when needed, in the suggested case he has to remove them. It seems to me
 that the original problem is transformed into another dual one.
 (Of course, this might prove useful if there are less exceptions in the
 end, but I'm a bit sceptical.)

Thus, it should be a completely configurable by the user, then the user  
can manage the exceptions. Based on my experience, it would save time to  
have the option of a general framework -- and deal with the 10%+/- of  
exceptions, than to have to enter every tie manually, and then proofread  
to make sure you got the 90%+/- right.

I'm sure we could come up with a reasonable, flexible framework for this...

Best wishes
Idris

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[NTG-context] Fonts (sorry) weird issue

2008-07-04 Thread Diego Depaoli
Minimals is installed in my $HOME
File to build is located in a partition (/media/disk) shared between
ubuntu and FreeBSD
Now I'm on ubuntu
from my $HOME texexec --xtx /media/disk/file.tex works
from /media/disk texexec --xtx file.tex fails with
! Font \*fontin12ptsstfss*:=Fontin_Sans_R_45b:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;+trep; a
t 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found.
texexec --lua works when launched from both locations.
Something is broken in fonts path detection?

Regards

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P.S. my first booklet has been appreciated. With FontinSans 9pt I well
balanced compactness and readability.
I put Made with ConTeXt in front page.
Thanks to all people who helped me.
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Re: [NTG-context] trouble starting context

2008-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Jesse Alama wrote:
 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Jesse Alama wrote:

 LuaTools | runtime: 6.702 seconds
 Any ideas?
 looks ok to me

 did you update mtxrun.lua - mtxrun(.lua) in your bin path?
 
 No, I didn't mess with that.
 
 Is anyone else testing out the latest TeXLive developer snapshot?  My
 experience has been that LuaTeX is broken.  Perhaps it is premature to
 include LuaTeX in this year's TeXLive.  Or perhaps the binaries and
 scripts that one gets when one downloads the latest TeXLive developer
 snapshot are too old.  Or perhaps LuaTeX requires more (or different)
 configuration than is done in the texmf.cnf that is distributed with
 TeXLive.

you can best take Norberts packages then since they reflect the latest 
state of affairs and can be ahead of tex live (context in tex live is 
already frozen)

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[NTG-context] Context on Miktex

2008-07-04 Thread David Arnold

All,On http://blog.miktex.org/post/2008/05/ConTeXt-support.aspx I read that Miktex version of Context is broken. I also read Mojca's workaround, pasted below. Has anyone tried this and does it work? Any conflicts or difficulties?Second question: Can I get mptopdf to work in the Miktex tree without installing Context?Mojca's workaround:May 31. 2008 00:37  If you still want to run ConTeXt on MikTeX while it has been removed, you may create a file texmfstart.bat in C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\miktex\bin with the content: @echo off ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" "%*" and extract www.pragma-ade.com/context/current/cont-tmf.zip into C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7. Then, update filename database and generate formats, and everything should work again. MojcaMojca David ArnoldCollege of the RedwoodsMathematics DepartmentEureka, CA 95501(707) 476-4222http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/ ___
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Re: [NTG-context] trouble starting context

2008-07-04 Thread Jesse Alama
Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jesse Alama wrote:
 Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Jesse Alama wrote:

 LuaTools | runtime: 6.702 seconds
 Any ideas?
 looks ok to me

 did you update mtxrun.lua - mtxrun(.lua) in your bin path?
 
 No, I didn't mess with that.
 
 Is anyone else testing out the latest TeXLive developer snapshot?  My
 experience has been that LuaTeX is broken.  Perhaps it is premature to
 include LuaTeX in this year's TeXLive.  Or perhaps the binaries and
 scripts that one gets when one downloads the latest TeXLive developer
 snapshot are too old.  Or perhaps LuaTeX requires more (or different)
 configuration than is done in the texmf.cnf that is distributed with
 TeXLive.

 you can best take Norberts packages then since they reflect the latest 
 state of affairs and can be ahead of tex live (context in tex live is 
 already frozen)

I'll try to get Norbert's packages -- thanks for the tip.  As for
TeXLive, it would be a real shame if the TL2008 DVD were shipped with a
busted LuaTeX+MkIV installation.  I for one am quite enthusiastic about
these two projects, so it was disheartening to come across such a basic
problem.  Perhaps I should post to the tex-live mailing list and ask
whether other testers are having similar trouble.

Jesse

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