Re: [NTG-context] Needless empty page at end

2008-09-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Holzminister
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 Hi!

 Is there nobody who knows something about this?

This is normal in doublesided documents.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] nolist still gives textellipsis???

2008-09-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I remember Henning was fighting with this quite a while ... but
 eventually this was solved, wasn't it?
 Shouldn't the following give NO textellipsis in the TOC:

\setuplanguage[de][limittext=]

\mainlanguage[de]

 \starttext


%\setuplist[chapter][limittext={}]

 \completecontent

 \chapter{aaa\nolist{bbb}ccc}

 \stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Breaking/Hyphenating

2008-09-16 Thread Jano Kula
Hi!

Mohamed Bana wrote:
 1.  What must I do to the 3rd paragraph on the first page to get it to space
 properly? It's far too close to the previous one.
 
 1st page, 3rd paragraph; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or 
 http://filebin.ca/dnoqva. Here's a screenshot; 
 http://imagebin.ca/view/5Es-dHG.html
 
 Source; http://pastebin.com/f15e49b5e

Works nicely here with
luaTeX-0.28.0
ConTeXt 2008.09.10 14:01

\setuplayout[grid=yes] might help also.

 2.  On the 1st page the d in praised protrudes to the margin, how do I stop
 this. I should point out that this happens often, and I don't mind if TeX
 creates a page with 1-2 lines as long as nothing protudes into the margin.

Regular Overfull hbox. TeX doesn't know how to break the world (line). 
Whatch log file or set \overfullrule=10pt. Usually you could tell TeX 
where to break the world with \- but in this example it seems compound 
words (||) aren't supposed to be broken at all.



Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenating hyperlinks

2008-09-16 Thread Jano Kula
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Why aren't the the urls broken across the lines on page2-3. I'm pretty sure 
 the
 hyperref package in latex supported this, Am I missing an option somewhere?
 
 Screenshot; http://imagebin.ca/view/VHwQ0w.html.
 
 The code used is; \dorecurse{6}{Download Apache at \from[apache]}
 Full source; http://pastebin.com/m1cf28c3c
 Pdf; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or http://filebin.ca/dnoqva.

Here, TeX can't break the paragraph according to the strict paragraph 
layout settings, urls are broken, but they still form Overfull hbox. 
(And there is no space after urls.)

\setuptolerance[tolerant]

will help.


Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] nolist still gives textellipsis???

2008-09-16 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 16.09.2008 um 08:32 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Steffen Wolfrum [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 Hi,

 I remember Henning was fighting with this quite a while ... but
 eventually this was solved, wasn't it?
 Shouldn't the following give NO textellipsis in the TOC:

 \setuplanguage[de][limittext=]

 \mainlanguage[de]

 \starttext


 %\setuplist[chapter][limittext={}]

 \completecontent

 \chapter{aaa\nolist{bbb}ccc}

 \stoptext


uhh! this is surprising ... but clean and convenient to do it per  
language not per section.

I will correct henning's wiki pages with this issue.

thanks a lot wolfgang!


steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Mkiv hyperlink problem

2008-09-16 Thread Jano Kula
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Could someone please try this out;
 
 1.  This source file; http://pastebin.com/m4dd31559 doesn't work with mkiv, it
 fails with; http://pastebin.com/ma9705be (paste below).
 2.  I don't get an error when I compile with mkii.  Here's the log of the
 succesfull compile; http://pastebin.com/m2c98019d.  

Works here (ConTeXt - 2008.09.10 14:01, pdfTeX-1.40.9, luaTeX-0.28.0) 
both with mkii and mkiv.

Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] mkii colour problem

2008-09-16 Thread Jano Kula
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Hi everbody,
 
 1.  Blank links source; http://pastebin.com/m4dd31559, Doesn't work, but
 strangely enough color=urlcolour (the one below) does.  Log;
 http://pastebin.com/m1034c274
 2.  Colour links source; http://pastebin.com/m70fa91b6.  Log;
 http://pastebin.com/m16be2374
 
 Just compile the and you'll see for yourself.
 
 So if I do use ucolour, the links are shown in black.  I can't compile the
 file with mkiv, see http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/44025.

Not sure what you mean. I see nothing strange: mkii and mkiv give the 
same results. Upgrade should help.

Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenating hyperlinks

2008-09-16 Thread Steffen Wolfrum

Am 16.09.2008 um 08:52 schrieb Jano Kula:

 Mohamed Bana wrote:
 Why aren't the the urls broken across the lines on page2-3. I'm  
 pretty sure the
 hyperref package in latex supported this, Am I missing an option  
 somewhere?

 Screenshot; http://imagebin.ca/view/VHwQ0w.html.

 The code used is; \dorecurse{6}{Download Apache at \from[apache]}
 Full source; http://pastebin.com/m1cf28c3c
 Pdf; http://filebin.ca/dnoqva/test.pdf or http://filebin.ca/dnoqva.

 Here, TeX can't break the paragraph according to the strict paragraph
 layout settings, urls are broken, but they still form Overfull hbox.
 (And there is no space after urls.)

 \setuptolerance[tolerant]

 will help.


 Jano



And there is also \hyphenatedurl{...}


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Re: [NTG-context] Labelling figures

2008-09-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi all,

any new news about my question below.

Wolfgang

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 what is the best method to add labels to a figure; I want them not only on
 the figure but their position should be relative to the figure size.


 I tried start/stopfigure (mentioned as outdated in the source) but the label
 is not shown.

 \setupexternalfigures[location={local,global,default}]

 \starttext

 \startfigure[kuh][cow]
 \referring(1,1)(1,1)[r:horn]
 \stopfigure

 \externalfigure[kuh]

 \stoptext


 After this I tried collector and got with a little extra and a box and to 
 dimens
 what I wanted but it's not very elegant.

 \setupexternalfigures[location={local,global,default}]

 \starttext

 \newbox\labelbox \setbox\labelbox\hbox{\externalfigure[cow]}

 \newdimen\labelwidth  \labelwidth \wd\labelbox
 \newdimen\labelheight \labelheight\ht\labelbox

 \definecollector[label][state=repeat]

 \setcollector[label]{\box\labelbox}

 \setcollector[label][x=.65\labelwidth,y=.75\labelheight]{udder}

 \placefigure
  {A labelled cow}
  {\flushcollector[label]}


 \stoptext


 Figurelabel as described in the label manual [1] seem to be the perfect
 solution but the module isn't finished :-(


 Is there not better way to achieve what I want and do I have to live with
 my second method or could I hope for the future.


 [1] http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mlabels.pdf


 Greetings
 Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Alan Stone
mtxrun --script fonts --list

output...

The 2nd column is the font name.
Tthe 3rd column is the font filename.

To what corresponds the 1st column ?

--
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Re: [NTG-context] Reading modules from zip files

2008-09-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi again,

 is there now a solution for my problem or should ask again in a few months.

 ask gain later, i have no time now to look into it  -)

Do you have now time or should I ask again?

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Eyke Höft
Hi!

I added a font called TypoOrnaments.ttf to my context-tree. Calling
mtxrun --script fonts --list gives the result

typoornamentsTypoOrnaments
TypoOrnaments.ttf
typoornamentsmedium  TypoOrnaments
TypoOrnaments.ttf

Now I want to use it in my document with

\definefontsynonym [typoOrn]  [file:TypoOrnaments.ttf][features=default]
\definefont [typoO] [typoOrn sa *]

- {\typoO test}

But luatex complains that it cannot find the font.

define font | forced type ttf of TypoOrnaments not found
define font | font with name TypoOrnaments is not found
define font | unknown font TypoOrnaments, loading aborted

Same thing with name:

My code works when I change the definition for example to
texgyrebonum-regular.otf.

Any ideas why the other font isn't working?


Thanks in advance,
Eyke
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote:
 mtxrun --script fonts --list
 
 output...
 
 The 2nd column is the font name.
 Tthe 3rd column is the font filename.
 
 To what corresponds the 1st column ?

the (simplified) internal name that is used as lookup, only digits and 
lowercase letters; all requested names are simplified before a lookup

(reason: i don't want to remember upper/lowercase, not funny characters, 
not deal with the usual mess in font (file) names)

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Eyke Höft wrote:
 
 My code works when I change the definition for example to
 texgyrebonum-regular.otf.
 
 Any ideas why the other font isn't working?

luatools --generate may help.

Best wishes,
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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread holzminister
Hi!

Unfortunately that did nothing helpful. I ran first-setup.sh
additionally, but that didn't help either.

Regards,
Eyke


2008/9/16 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Eyke Höft wrote:

 My code works when I change the definition for example to
 texgyrebonum-regular.otf.

 Any ideas why the other font isn't working?

 luatools --generate may help.

 Best wishes,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Alan Stone
(1) the (simplified) internal name that is used as lookup

 so these are names one can use in typescripts instead,
aka  [name:simplified-internal-name] ?

 (2) source: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV#Using_fonts

Context Mark IV can use non-tex fonts (in OpenType, TrueType or Type1
format) directly

What is meant by directly ?

-- 
Best,
Alan


 * ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
* Windows XP Home SP3
 On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Stone wrote:
 mtxrun --script fonts --list

 output...

 The 2nd column is the font name.
 Tthe 3rd column is the font filename.

 To what corresponds the 1st column ?

 the (simplified) internal name that is used as lookup, only digits and
 lowercase letters; all requested names are simplified before a lookup

 (reason: i don't want to remember upper/lowercase, not funny characters,
 not deal with the usual mess in font (file) names)

 Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Alan Stone
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (1) the (simplified) internal name that is used as lookup

 so these are names one can use in typescripts instead,
 aka  [name:simplified-internal-name] ?

 (2) source: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV#Using_fonts

 Context Mark IV can use non-tex fonts (in OpenType, TrueType or Type1
 format) directly

 What is meant by directly ?

You don't need tfm and map files.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] overprint and currentcolorname in mkiv

2008-09-16 Thread Hans Hagen

 \setupcolors[state=start]

 \starttext

 No overprinting.

 \startoverprint
 Overprinting is active.
 \stopoverprint

 \stoptext
 run ok here, but the question is .. what exactly do you expect to see

 
 to be exact: some orange text :)

can you check if the current beta is more in sync with pdftex?


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Re: [NTG-context] Breaking/Hyphenating

2008-09-16 Thread Mohamed Bana
The file seems to typeset almost perfectly with mkii, even without
\setuplayout[grid=yes] \overfullrule=10pt.

Source; http://pastebin.com/m271212a6
Pdf; http://filebin.ca/octdd/test.pdf or http://filebin.ca/octdd


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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Sep 16, 2008, at 2:30 PM, holzminister wrote:

 Hi!

 Unfortunately that did nothing helpful. I ran first-setup.sh
 additionally, but that didn't help either.

 Regards,
 Eyke

So you're using the minimals...

1. Where exactly is TypoOrnaments.ttf?

2. output of
luatools TypoOrnaments.ttf

3. is there a file TypoOrnaments.tma in your texmf-cache/luatex-cache/ 
context//fonts/otf directory?

4. output of luatools --expand-var TEXMF

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Re: [NTG-context] Mkiv hyperlink problem

2008-09-16 Thread Mohamed Bana
Jano Kula jano.kula at tiscali.cz writes:

 
 Mohamed Bana wrote:
  Could someone please try this out;
  
  1.  This source file; http://pastebin.com/m4dd31559 doesn't work with mkiv, 
  it
  fails with; http://pastebin.com/ma9705be (paste below).
  2.  I don't get an error when I compile with mkii.  Here's the log of the
  succesfull compile; http://pastebin.com/m2c98019d.  
 
 Works here (ConTeXt - 2008.09.10 14:01, pdfTeX-1.40.9, luaTeX-0.28.0) 
 both with mkii and mkiv.
 
 Jano
 

Still doesn't work, it fails with (the same message error i think);
http://pastebin.com/m18091197

I ran

 first-setup.bat

 C:\context\tex\setuptex.bat C:\context\tex

 C:\contextcontext --version
MtxRun | main context file:
C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.tex
MtxRun | current version: 2008.09.16 13:34

 C:\contextluatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.29.0-2008072009
...
Copyright 2008 Taco Hoekwater, the LuaTeX Team.

Compiled with libpng 1.2.29; using libpng 1.2.29
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.02pl2


 C:\contextpdftex --version
pdfTeX 3.1415926-1.40.9-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.7)
kpathsea version 3.5.7
...
Compiled with libpng 1.2.31; using libpng 1.2.31
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.02pl2





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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread holzminister
Hmm, that's interesting. I thought it's not relevant where the fonts
are located.

The error appears when I put the font into
context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public. But there are no problems
with the font in context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/truetype. Why?

Cheers,
Eyke


2008/9/16 Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Eyke Höft wrote:

 My code works when I change the definition for example to
 texgyrebonum-regular.otf.

 Any ideas why the other font isn't working?

 luatools --generate may help.

 Best wishes,
 Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Mohamed Bana
Alan Stone software.list.1es9s at gmail.com writes:

 
 mtxrun --script fonts --list
 
 output...
 
 The 2nd column is the font name.
 Tthe 3rd column is the font filename.
 
 To what corresponds the 1st column ?
 

Take a look at; http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#Example.  I
remember the same question.




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Re: [NTG-context] overprint and currentcolorname in mkiv

2008-09-16 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb:
 \setupcolors[state=start]

 \starttext

 No overprinting.

 \startoverprint
 Overprinting is active.
 \stopoverprint

 \stoptext
 run ok here, but the question is .. what exactly do you expect to see

 to be exact: some orange text :)
 
 can you check if the current beta is more in sync with pdftex?
 

orange text *AND* 'OVP 1' mode :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 The error appears when I put the font into
 context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public. But there are no problems
 with the font in context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/truetype. Why?

  The obvious answer would be: because your font has a .ttf extension.
And the obvious answer would be: since it has a .ttf extension, why do
you put it in fonts/opentype?

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Re: [NTG-context] Breaking/Hyphenating

2008-09-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Mohamed Bana wrote:
 The file seems to typeset almost perfectly with mkii, even without
 \setuplayout[grid=yes] \overfullrule=10pt.

a simpler test file is

\showframe \mainlanguage[uk]

\starttext
 \placefigure[left]{}{} \input zapf
\stoptext

there can be several reasons for the difference (btw, uk patterns cannot 
hyphenate widely)

- different fonts i.e. different glyphs dimensions and spacing (lm 
opentype is not the same as lm type1)
- different hyphenation algorithm (mostly the same as traditional tex, 
but some limitations and optimizations removed)

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Re: [NTG-context] Labelling figures

2008-09-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 any new news about my question below.
 
 Wolfgang
 
 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 what is the best method to add labels to a figure; I want them not only on
 the figure but their position should be relative to the figure size.

how about just using a layer ...


 I tried start/stopfigure (mentioned as outdated in the source) but the label
 is not shown.

 \setupexternalfigures[location={local,global,default}]

 \starttext

 \startfigure[kuh][cow]
 \referring(1,1)(1,1)[r:horn]
 \stopfigure

 \externalfigure[kuh]

 \stoptext


 After this I tried collector and got with a little extra and a box and to 
 dimens
 what I wanted but it's not very elegant.

 \setupexternalfigures[location={local,global,default}]

 \starttext

 \newbox\labelbox \setbox\labelbox\hbox{\externalfigure[cow]}

 \newdimen\labelwidth  \labelwidth \wd\labelbox
 \newdimen\labelheight \labelheight\ht\labelbox

 \definecollector[label][state=repeat]

 \setcollector[label]{\box\labelbox}

 \setcollector[label][x=.65\labelwidth,y=.75\labelheight]{udder}

 \placefigure
  {A labelled cow}
  {\flushcollector[label]}


 \stoptext


 Figurelabel as described in the label manual [1] seem to be the perfect
 solution but the module isn't finished :-(


 Is there not better way to achieve what I want and do I have to live with
 my second method or could I hope for the future.


 [1] http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mlabels.pdf


 Greetings
 Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Hans Hagen
holzminister wrote:
 Hmm, that's interesting. I thought it's not relevant where the fonts
 are located.
 
 The error appears when I put the font into
 context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public. But there are no problems
 with the font in context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/truetype. Why?

here i have

texmf-whatever/fonts/data/vendor/collection/somefont.somesuffix

i.e. the whole lot organized by vendor/collection instead of per file type

for that to work, you need to add texmf-whatever/fonts/data// to your 
relevant font paths in texmf.cnf




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Re: [NTG-context] MKIV font name database

2008-09-16 Thread Alan Stone
compiled with

texmfstart texexec --lua test001

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* ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
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Re: [NTG-context] Labelling figures

2008-09-16 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 16:28:45 Hans Hagen wrote:
  what is the best method to add labels to a figure; I want them not only
  on the figure but their position should be relative to the figure size.

 how about just using a layer ...

You might also try pgf/tikz, according to your taste:

\usemodule[tikz]
\starttikzpicture[scale=]
\pgftext{\externalfigure[kuh][width=1cm]};
\draw (x,y) node {label};
\stoptikzpicture
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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread holzminister
I thought that OpenType is quasi an extended TrueType. Wikipedia says:
OpenType Filename extension .otf, .ttf. So it isn't obvious why one
schould not mix the two parts in one directory.

Cheers,
Eyke

2008/9/16 Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The error appears when I put the font into
 context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public. But there are no problems
 with the font in context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/truetype. Why?

  The obvious answer would be: because your font has a .ttf extension.
 And the obvious answer would be: since it has a .ttf extension, why do
 you put it in fonts/opentype?

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Re: [NTG-context] Luatex fails to load a font

2008-09-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-09-16 um 20:29 schrieb holzminister:

 I thought that OpenType is quasi an extended TrueType. Wikipedia says:
 OpenType Filename extension .otf, .ttf. So it isn't obvious why one
 schould not mix the two parts in one directory.

OpenType can internally use TrueType outlines or PostScript outlines  
(different algorithms). OpenType with PS outlines normally use  
the .otf extension; OpenType with TrueType outlines are valid TrueType  
fonts and therefore normally use the .ttf extension. But OpenType  
fonts are never valid PostScript fonts.

By far not every TrueType font is OpenType compatible: OT-TT fonts  
have their characters encoded in Unicode and may use OT features;  
normal TT fonts often use default/custom one-byte encodings.

The ordering in the TeX tree is probably a matter of taste, but you  
would even more confused to find .ttf fonts within the truetype as  
well as opentype folders, for you can't know (without tools) what's  
really in the font's guts. And don't you think it would be  
questionable to draw a line between Unicode encoded TrueType fonts  
with and without OpenType features?


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