Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread luigi scarso
I also like to write programs (I use a really nice language named Haskell). Do you thing I could get what I want if I write or translate typography functions to that language, and then write programs to generate documents? You will reinvent the wheel (TeX) -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] Feature Request: \startitemize[text]

2008-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hans, I have always found the space at the beginning of each item in

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with itemize with arranging pages

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Hi all, itemize won't work with page arrangement. Is this connected with this: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Caveat:_common_troubles ? (In other words: feature, not bug; and resolvable using texexec --arrange?)

Re: [NTG-context] Changing margins mid-page?

2008-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Alexandros Frantzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 08:50:20AM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Rory Molinari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm sorry that the subject isn't clearer. I'm learning ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with itemize with arranging pages

2008-10-21 Thread Mari Voipio
Marcin Borkowski wrote: itemize won't work with page arrangement. Is this connected with this: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Caveat:_common_troubles ? (In other words: feature, not bug; and resolvable using texexec --arrange?) Quite likely - I must say that I didn't notice, but

[NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?

2008-10-21 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans, Taco, Idriss and the mkiv team, Since I have been unable to use mkiv until very recently I am not aware whether the following bug has been addressed or not (Luigi Scarso taught me how to install and use mkiv on Mac OS, last Sunday…). Below is a minimal file which shows that the

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2008-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, at the context meeting it was concluded that there is no reason for mkiv to be fully downward compatible. one thing that i consider removing is the 'background=screen' option from \framed. After all, screens

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:41 AM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, at the context meeting it was concluded that there is no reason for mkiv to be fully downward compatible. one thing that i consider removing is the 'background=screen' option from \framed.

[NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Ruini Xue
It's difficult to understand them from the code. -- ruini ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061

Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoub leargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Ruini Xue
Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes: Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two mandatory arguments? I try this example:

Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Ruini Xue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes: Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two

Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoub leargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Ruini Xue
Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfgang at googlemail.com writes: You need a comment sign at the end of the line. \def\dotest[#1][#2]% All my faults come from the last comment sign! :) Thanks -- ruini ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What's the difference between \dodoubleargument and \dodoubleempty?

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Ruini Xue wrote: Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl writes: Ruini Xue wrote: It's difficult to understand them from the code. the first one issues a warning when no argument is given You mean both of them ask the following \command to take two mandatory arguments? I try this example: we use

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?

2008-10-21 Thread Khaled Hosny
This isn't actually a bug, \textdir TRT will reverse all text, try setting \setupdirection[bidi=global] to enable the experimental auto-bidi support. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Otared Kavian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Hans, Taco, Idriss and the mkiv team, Since I have been unable to

[NTG-context] Persian interface

2008-10-21 Thread Mehdi Omidali
Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my questions are: 1- Am I supposed to just create these two files and then run context --make cont-pe. 2- Can context accept these two files in UTF-8

Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread Mauricio
Thanks. But typography books are not the problem. I've seen many, many, many of them, and each one makes me unhappy because I have nowhere to try what they say. My dad is very good at typesetting, but he can draw very well (everything he writes is manuscript, he don't drust a computer to do

Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Mehdi Omidali wrote: Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my questions are: 1- Am I supposed to just create these two files and then run context --make cont-pe. 2- Can context

Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Mauricio wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work and

[NTG-context] \setuphead and horizontal rules

2008-10-21 Thread Andrew Ho
Hi, Let me prefix this first my saying that I'm new to ConTeXT, so apologies if there is an obvious solution to what I'm trying to do or I'm approaching it in the wrong way. I'm trying to style chapter headings so that they are right justified, with a line before them *on the same line*. In

Re: [NTG-context] mkiv: Bug in Right to Left numerals?

2008-10-21 Thread Otared Kavian
On 21 oct. 08, at 15:13, Khaled Hosny wrote: This isn't actually a bug, \textdir TRT will reverse all text, try setting \setupdirection[bidi=global] to enable the experimental auto-bidi support. Thanks Khaled for your attention, but what I get is: ! Undefined control sequence. l.21

Re: [NTG-context] Feature Request: \startitemize[text]

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hans, can this be included in the core? later, i'd rather not touch code now while i'm in the middle some major mkiv core code rework which will take a couple of weeks so, fro the moment, just collect extension code Hans

[NTG-context] new beta

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related

[NTG-context] new beta

2008-10-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related

[NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Piotr
Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD thesis (in chemistry). I have used Miktex

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Jeff Smith
Hi, I will let the other, more experienced posters answer the bulk of your questions, as they will do better than I. But about Endnote, which I happen to use, alongside my own own doctoral dissertation writing under ConTeXt, I can share some of my experience. Although Endnote can export into

Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread Mauricio
Mauricio wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or luatex? I can try that, but that's going to be hard work

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2008-10-21 um 19:56 schrieb Piotr: 1) Finding the right context For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution - a problem that actually led me to the existence of ConTeXt. I am wondering which latex distribution I should choose in order to work with ConTeXt?

Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
Hi, On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:14:50 -0600, Mauricio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Tex is not an option, since PDF, today's font formats (and Unicode) and many algorithms didn't exist when Knuth decided no features would be added anymore. Maybe I should hack the source code of pdftex or

[NTG-context] Vertically centered title page

2008-10-21 Thread Flavien Lambert
Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand, \framed[location=middle,align=middle] but without

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/10/21 Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Or lets ask the devils advocate the other way around: What is the point of installing context, when latex could do the trick? Apart that I have to re-learn latex anyway.. what is better with Context? - ConTeXt's scripts know how often your

Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page

2008-10-21 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Flavien Lambert wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on

Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page

2008-10-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Flavien Lambert wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand, two \vfill, and, on the other hand,

Re: [NTG-context] Vertically centered title page

2008-10-21 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي ح امد
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:22:08 -0600, Flavien Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I am trying to build a presentation with specific requirements. I would like to have the title of the presentation on the middle (both vertical and horizontal) of the first page. I tried, on one hand,

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 07:56:27PM +0200, Piotr napisa#322;(a): Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Piotr wrote: For now I had quite some difficulties to find that proper Latex distribution You only have MikTeX and TeX Live. (I used to be a big MikTeX fan. Not much difference, but MikTeX is more user friendly for my biased taste; sadly lacking ConTeXt at the

Re: [NTG-context] What should I learn?

2008-10-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Maurí­cio wrote: I also like to write programs (I use a really nice language named Haskell). Do you thing I could get what I want if I write or translate typography functions to that language, and then write programs to generate documents? Where could I find or where could

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Piotr wrote: Hello, I have spent some time with google in order to find an answer to the following questions. Unfortunatly, I was not satisfied with the answers, which I now hope to find here. It is my plan not to use the MS Office suite for the production of my PhD

[NTG-context] emacs (was: Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)

2008-10-21 Thread Peter Münster
On Wed, Oct 22 2008, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Well, my heart is breaking when I type this, but my beloved emacs;) has rather poor ConTeXt support... I use Emacs 22 with AUCTeX 11.84. Well, although it *works*, it is by no means convenient - at least not that convenient as an emacs should

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-21 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I wrote my thesis using nroff... wouldn't want to do that again. Good luck! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /