Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple

Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/08, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mehdi Omidali wrote: Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone! I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is the list of problems I've encountered: 1. No small-caps

Re: [NTG-context] Reference to a subitem

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Diego Depaoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, referencing a subitem I get also the item (1.a, 2.c and so on). Can I split them or get only the subitem? \starttext \startitemize [n] \item [number] one \startitemize [a] \item [letter] letter \stopitemize

Re: [NTG-context] Strange behaviour with colors and figures

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Flavien Lambert wrote: Dear all, as expressed by the title, I have a very strange behaviour between colors and figures. Here is the example : \setupcolors[state=start] \definecolor[gris][r=0.310,g=0.333,b=0.341] \starttext \placefigure{}{\externalfigure[myfigure]} \color[gris]{\tfd

[NTG-context] Can I use \startbuffer in other command?

2008-10-23 Thread Ruini Xue
I have two questions: 1. How to define a start-stop command to accept options? I want to define a start-stop command which can accept options (as \startitemize [packed]), however the \definestartstop does not support this. I found a solution in the list: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-

Re: [NTG-context] Can I use \startbuffer in other command?

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Ruini Xue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two questions: 1. How to define a start-stop command to accept options? I want to define a start-stop command which can accept options (as \startitemize [packed]), however the \definestartstop does not support

[NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv, while on mkii it is fine? So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv? Best regards: OK %% defining swelled ruel, or

Re: [NTG-context] no hyphenation over right page break?

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Jelle Huisman wrote: Hi all, In my project I \input a number of text files into a double-column layout. One of the layout requests is: no hyphenation over right page breaks allowed. I can't think of a way to do this, but I would be happy if someone knew a way to prevent hyphenation of

Re: [NTG-context] Reference to a subitem

2008-10-23 Thread Diego Depaoli
2008/10/23 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wanted result Look at number 1 letter a \def\ItemNumber#1% {\expandafter\doItemNumber#1..\relax} As usual, Wolfgang solved! Mojca, can I have a Context t-shirt customized 'Wolfgang's fan club'? -- Diego Depaoli

Re: [NTG-context] TeXshop

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi Guys, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Wolfgang and Willi, As soon as I saw Wolfgang's message about TeXworks, I tried to install and use it, but without success (I even didn't figure out what Willi says about the libraries and so on). Maybe, in the sense of Mac OS X, it is not yet an

Re: [NTG-context] no hyphenation over right page break?

2008-10-23 Thread Jelle Huisman
Taco Hoekwater wrote: There is only \brokenpenalty : \brokenpenalty 1 \def\defaultbrokenpenalty {1} \def\defaultgridbrokenpenalty {1} This prevents ConTeXt from breaking any page after any line that ends with a hyphen. That is not quite to what you asked, but it is

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Peter Rolf
Otared Kavian schrieb: Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv, while on mkii it is fine? So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv? works ok here. maybe

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otared Kavian schrieb: Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv, while on mkii it is fine? So my question

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Peter Rolf
luigi scarso schrieb: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otared Kavian schrieb: Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf

[NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: \setupcolors[state=start] \startuniqueMPgraphic{fill} StartPage ; fill Page withcolor green ; StopPage ; \stopuniqueMPgraphic \defineoverlay [testfill]

Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You need characters with catcode 11 for the commands and most of the chars outside the ASCII range have catcode 12 which can be used only in commands with the length 1 like your footnote example. hm, maybe the catcode initialization takes place too late Here is a

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Peter Rolf
luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version

Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: This seems to be a duplicate of the other \uniqueMPgraphic problem. Best wishes, Taco

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone! I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is the list of

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone! I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to make

[NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup

2008-10-23 Thread Jelle Huisman
Hi all, Another question, this time about \headers and \footers. On the first page of the chapter I have the page number in the footer and on all other pages they are in the header. This works fine, as expected. However I have to include an \externalfigure *before* the \chapter command and I

Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Jelle Huisman wrote: Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that is not printed after all?) I would put the externalfigure in the before= of the chapter head, maybe wrapped in some form of

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Otared Kavian
On 23 oct. 08, at 14:44, Peter Rolf wrote: luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Peter Rolf
luigi scarso schrieb: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a

Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: This seems to be a duplicate of the other \uniqueMPgraphic problem. Best wishes, Taco Ah OK,

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
currently not the latest beta (no time). MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.08 23:34 (see attached pdf of the first mail) :D Just tested with ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.21 19:42 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.23 int: english/english So, it seems a bug of minimal-beta . -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) It's no a problem, at least for me; I'm collecting test

Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup

2008-10-23 Thread Jelle Huisman
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that is not printed after all?) I would put the externalfigure in the before= of the chapter head, maybe wrapped in some form of

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Otared Kavian
On 23 oct. 08, at 16:13, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) Hi Taco, Thanks for your attention… But there is no worry about such bugs: I

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-23 Thread John Devereux
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Alan BRASLAU wrote: My question to the mailing list: is this task structured? Is this being managed by anyone? Unfortunately, not. Aditya's reply sums it up pretty well. I just want to add a

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone! I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as

Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup

2008-10-23 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Jelle Huisman wrote: Hi all, Another question, this time about \headers and \footers. On the first page of the chapter I have the page number in the footer and on all other pages they are in the header. This works fine, as expected. However I have to include an

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
The version I have is the one from the Garden: […] typeset on October 23, 2008 at 15:57, with mkiv, LuaTeX revision 2, (LuaTeX date stamp 2008102016),, ConTeXt version 2008.10.21 19:42. (From the moonlight gardener) For future reference, the LuaTeX version used on the Garden is written

[NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hi, John Devereux wrote: I myself am very interested in *reading* it - I was delighted to see the new fonts chapter and the new documention project in general. But I am not sure I can contribute much. I am much more of a consumer than a producer, of accurate information. Partly due to lack

[NTG-context] project structure simplification ?

2008-10-23 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Hi, when there is only one product, only one environment-style (but lots of component) in a project, is it necessary to start the files with these respective lines ... \startproject the_project \startproduct the_product \startenvironment the_style ... or is it sufficient for referencing

[NTG-context] beta

2008-10-23 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, i uploaded a beta that can handle \starttext \setinterfacecommand{setuphead}{stelleüberschriftein} \section{Oeps} \stelleüberschriftein[section][style=\bf] \section{Oeps} \defineregister[xüber] test \xüber{oeps} oeps \stoptext now, for a persian interface, one needs to = copy

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:24 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken

[NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
OK, this year latex wins http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/about/awards/pr/vonneupr.html -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: \setupcolors[state=start] \startuniqueMPgraphic{fill} StartPage ; fill Page withcolor green ;

Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.

2008-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
OK, this year latex wins http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/about/awards/pr/vonneupr.html I suppose you know it, but obviously, Lamport got the prize for his contribution to distributed computing, *not* to TeX macros ;-) He used to come to my university as an invited professor quite often, and

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-23 Thread Jeff Smith
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:05, Piotr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, would it be allright for You to publish the source of Your very useful python Endnote-Bibtex conversion program? I don't mind, but I will have to have a look at it again first, if you do not mind the little delay. I actually

Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this year latex wins http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/about/awards/pr/vonneupr.html I suppose you know it, but obviously, Lamport got the prize for his contribution to distributed computing, *not* to TeX

Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.

2008-10-23 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: He used to come to my university as an invited professor quite often, and apparently he didn't really appreciate when young students came to him to talk about LaTeX ... Even about a concurrent TeX? ah, this is not

Re: [NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)

2008-10-23 Thread Rory Molinari
Hi, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, John Devereux wrote: There actually is something you (and everybody else) can do: provide feedback on the current version of the manual(s). For example, it would be nice to know whether there are errors or unclarities in it (or omissions, but that actually

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Oleg Kolosov
Mojca Miklavec wrote: 1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?) I didn't check yet, but it's probably a global problem in mkiv smallcaps support. Tried with MkII and MkIV. No small caps in sans-serif only if text is written in english. In MkIV with gyre smallcaps are

[NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file

2008-10-23 Thread Oleg Kolosov
Hi all, Taco! I was experimenting with bib module and discovered something which looks like a bug. 'texexec' ('texexec bibtest') runs fine but typesets references ('s' key) incorrectly. As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex' manually once ('bibtex bibtest'),

Re: [NTG-context] beta

2008-10-23 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Oct 23 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: \defineregister[xüber] test \xüber{oeps} oeps Great, even \def\höhö{blabla} works! Peter -- http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2008-10-23 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: just move the definition one level up \starttypescript [One] \definetypeface [One] [rm] [serif] [one] [default] [features=mytest] \stoptypescript That doesn't solve the problem. The font feature mytest is still applied to both defined

Re: [NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file

2008-10-23 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Oleg Kolosov wrote: 'texexec' ('texexec bibtest') runs fine but typesets references ('s' key) incorrectly. As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex' manually once ('bibtex bibtest'), then 'context' ('context bibtest') gives 'Invalid UTF-8 sequence' error.

Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt

2008-10-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 04:37:23PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater napisa#322;(a): Hi, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Alan BRASLAU wrote: My question to the mailing list: is this task structured? Is this being managed by anyone? Unfortunately, not. Aditya's reply sums

Re: [NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)

2008-10-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater napisa#322;(a): Hi, John Devereux wrote: I myself am very interested in *reading* it - I was delighted to see the new fonts chapter and the new documention project in general. But I am not sure I can contribute much. I am

Re: [NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file

2008-10-23 Thread Oleg Kolosov
Taco Hoekwater wrote: As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex' manually once ('bibtex bibtest'), then 'context' ('context bibtest') gives 'Invalid UTF-8 sequence' error. This is caused by the fact that bibtex doesn't understand UTF-8 at all (it is only able

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:07:46PM +0400, Oleg Kolosov napisa#322;(a): Attached the resulting type-otf.tex. Maybe this'll save a few minutes for someone. Wow! I don't have the time to test it now with Polish, but I'll do it soon probably. I guess it is usable only in MkIV...? If yes,

Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals

2008-10-23 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:07:46PM +0400, Oleg Kolosov napisa#322;(a): Attached the resulting type-otf.tex. Maybe this'll save a few minutes for someone. Wow! I don't have the time to test it now with Polish, but I'll do it soon