Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related code i rewrote the moveable block code which will be part of the major update later this year. It's not yet 100% functional compatible but faster and more flexible. I'm wondering, are there mkiv users out there who use the block features? I tested the new block code with MkIV and everything is fine except two unnecessary files in my working directory, they are \jobname-texutil0.tmp and texutil.tub. Here is a example: \defineblock[question] \defineblock[answer] \hideblocks[answer] \starttext \beginquestion Question 1 \endquestion \beginanswer Answer 1 \endanswer \beginquestion Question 2 \endquestion \beginanswer Answer 2 \endanswer \useblocks[answer] \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Mehdi Omidali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/21/08, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mehdi Omidali wrote: Hi everyone, I want to be able to use persian interface in context. So I tried to create two files cont-pe.xml and cont-pe.tex for this purpose. Now my questions are: 1- Am I supposed to just create these two files and then run context --make cont-pe. 2- Can context accept these two files in UTF-8 encoding. you need to adapt mult-con and mult-com but at the same time we need to adapt mult-sys, so as an experiment if things work out ok, just play a bit with mult-con/com e.g. replace a few harmless commands in the english interface and see if things work ok for persian footnote: voetnoot footnote fussnote poznamkapodcarou notapdp notasubsol notepdp eventually persian can become the 8th entry footnote: voetnoot somethingpersian fussnote poznamkapodcarou notapdp notasubsol notepdp \somethingpersian then should give you a footnote (we never really tested it with utf8 input so far) (when i have time i will (for luatex) make this mechanism different i.e. just lua tables from which i then can generate the con/com files) Hi Hans and everybody, I did as you said and saw two things. 1- The good news: it is possible to assign another name (even persian) for an option name. For example the word packed which is used as an option in some commands like \setupitemize works well if you substitute it with anything. 2- The bad news: names of commands (I mean words that is used in the input file with a backslash in front of them like footnote or setupsomething) are not well behaved if we change them in mult.con.tex. I tried to change for example the word footnote with a persian word with more than one character and in the running time I got the error that that command is not defined. But I was able to redefine footnote with a just one (persian) character. You need characters with catcode 11 for the commands and most of the chars outside the ASCII range have catcode 12 which can be used only in commands with the length 1 like your footnote example. Here is a example how to use umlauts for the german interface: \catcode`ü=11 \startcommandsdutchenglish german czech italian romanian french definittete setuphead: stelkopinsetuphead stelleüberschriftein nastavnadpis impostatesta seteazatitlu regletete \stopcommands Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone!
I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to
make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is the list
of problems I've encountered:
1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?)
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\def\os{\groupedcommand{\setfontfeature{oldstyle}}{}}
\starttext
0123456789 {\os 0123456789}
\stoptext
Test the other fonts by yourself.
2. adventor have italic but slanted displays as normal (roman)
3. cursor have only roman script (no bold, slanted, etc.)
Is this due to lack of fonts in Gyre package, some omissions in type-otf.tex
or my typescript definitions are not complete?
Here is the test file which I've used (some cyrillic text also):
\starttypescript[mygyre]
% change font last arg according to definitions in type-otf.tex
% pagella, termes, bonum, schola
\definetypeface [mygyre] [rm] [serif] [pagella]
% heros, adventor
\definetypeface [mygyre] [ss] [sans] [adventor]
\definetypeface [mygyre] [tt] [sans] [cursor]
\definetypeface [mygyre] [mm] [math] [palatino]
\stoptypescript
\startbuffer[tests]
\starttabulate
\NC \tf tf \NC \tf Нормальный текст \NC\AR
\NC \bf bf \NC \bf Полужирный текст \NC\AR
\NC \it it \NC \it Курсивный текст \NC\AR
\NC \sl sl \NC \sl Наклонный текст \NC\AR
\NC \bi bi \NC \bi Полужирный курсив\NC\AR
\NC \bs bs \NC \bs Полужирынй наклонный \NC\AR
\NC \sc sc \NC \sc Пробный текст\NC\AR
\stoptabulate
\stopbuffer
\usetypescript[mygyre]
\setupbodyfont[mygyre]
\starttext
\section{roman (rm)}
{\rm \getbuffer[tests]}
\section{sans-serif (ss)}
{\ss \getbuffer[tests]}
\section{teletype (tt)}
{\tt \getbuffer[tests]}
\stoptext
I'll update Russian section in the wiki, once these points are clarified.
--
Regards,
Oleg Kolosov
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Reference to a subitem
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Diego Depaoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
referencing a subitem I get also the item (1.a, 2.c and so on).
Can I split them or get only the subitem?
\starttext
\startitemize [n]
\item [number] one
\startitemize [a]
\item [letter] letter
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
Look at number \in[number] letter \in[letter]
\stoptext
Normal output:
Look at number 1 letter 1.a
Wanted result
Look at number 1 letter a
\def\ItemNumber#1%
{\expandafter\doItemNumber#1..\relax}
\def\doItemNumber#1.#2.#3\relax
{\doifelsenothing{#2}
{#1}
{#2}}
\definereferenceformat[initem][left=\ItemNumber]
\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item[number] one
\startitemize [a]
\item[letter] letter
\stopitemize
\stopitemize
Look at \initem{number}[number] \initem{letter}[letter]
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Strange behaviour with colors and figures
Flavien Lambert wrote:
Dear all, as expressed by the title, I have a very strange behaviour
between colors and figures. Here is the example :
\setupcolors[state=start]
\definecolor[gris][r=0.310,g=0.333,b=0.341]
\starttext
\placefigure{}{\externalfigure[myfigure]}
\color[gris]{\tfd Some text}
\stoptext
If myfigure is a PDF file, everything is ok with MKII, MKIV and XeTeX.
If myfigure is a PNG file with transparency, then the gris color is ok
with MKII but not with MKIV and XeTeX if the resulting document is read
with Adobe Reader on Linux (when read with evince, colors are ok !).
In the latter case, the gris color is very dark close to black and the
green of myfigure becomes flashy...
Quite puzzling !
The MKIV version of this problem is fixed in 0.30.0, it was broken in
luatex 0.29.0.
Best wishes,
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[NTG-context] Can I use \startbuffer in other command?
I have two questions:
1. How to define a start-stop command to accept options?
I want to define a start-stop command which can accept options (as
\startitemize [packed]), however the \definestartstop does not support this.
I found a solution in the list: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-
context/2007/025969.html
Unfortunately, when I use \startbuffer in it, context prints * in the
terminal and waits for input. So it comes to the second question
2. Can \startbuffer be used in other commands?
My code is as following:
\def\startabstract{%
\dosingleempty\dostartabstract}
\long\def\dostartabstract[#1]#2\stopabstract{%
\startbuffer[#1] #2\stopbuffer}
\let\stopabstract\relax
\startabstract [long]
a long abstract
\stopabstract
\startabstract [short]
a short abstract
\stopabstract
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Re: [NTG-context] Can I use \startbuffer in other command?
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Ruini Xue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have two questions:
1. How to define a start-stop command to accept options?
I want to define a start-stop command which can accept options (as
\startitemize [packed]), however the \definestartstop does not support this.
I found a solution in the list: http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-
context/2007/025969.html
Unfortunately, when I use \startbuffer in it, context prints * in the
terminal and waits for input. So it comes to the second question
2. Can \startbuffer be used in other commands?
My code is as following:
\def\startabstract{%
\dosingleempty\dostartabstract}
\long\def\dostartabstract[#1]#2\stopabstract{%
\startbuffer[#1] #2\stopbuffer}
\let\stopabstract\relax
\def\dostartabstract
{\dostartbuffer[abstract][startabstract][stopabstract]}
\startabstract [long]
a long abstract
\stopabstract
\startabstract [short]
a short abstract
\stopabstract
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[NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
Hi everyone,
Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through…
The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv,
while on mkii it is fine?
So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv?
Best regards: OK
%% defining swelled ruel, or English rule...
\setupMPvariables[SwelledRule][height=2pt,breadth=.667\localhsize]
\startuniqueMPgraphic{SwelledRule}{height,breadth}
x1 = 0; x2 = x6 = .333x4; x3 = x5 = .667x4; x4 = \MPvar{breadth};
y1 = y4 = \MPvar{height}/2; y2 = y3 = \MPvar{height}; y5 = y6 = 0;
fill z1--z2--z3--z4--z5--z6--cycle;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic
\def\SwelledRule{\blank%
\setlocalhsize\midaligned{\reuseMPgraphic{SwelledRule}}\blank}
%% end swelled rule
\starttext
This file has been typeset
on \currentdate{}
at \currenttime,
with
\doifmodeelse{mkiv}
{mkiv,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),}
{mkii,
using the command:
\type{texexec basic-test.tex}},
ConTeXt version \contextversion.
% LuaTeX version \luatexversion,
Below should be a swelled rule: it appears with mkii, but not in mkiv
\dots
\SwelledRule
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] no hyphenation over right page break?
Jelle Huisman wrote:
Hi all,
In my project I \input a number of text files into a double-column
layout. One of the layout requests is: no hyphenation over right page
breaks allowed. I can't think of a way to do this, but I would be happy
if someone knew a way to prevent hyphenation of the last word of the
last line in the second column on odd pages. (Yes, I can fix it later,
but I want to prevent it.) (Still on MkII)
There is only \brokenpenalty :
\brokenpenalty 1
\def\defaultbrokenpenalty {1}
\def\defaultgridbrokenpenalty {1}
This prevents ConTeXt from breaking any page after any line that ends
with a hyphen. That is not quite to what you asked, but it is about the
best that can be done automatically because in TeX, there is no direct
interaction between the paragraph breaker and the page breaker.
(well, you can probably patch the output routine in some way so that
this setting is only in effect on odd pages, but in multicolumn mode
the definition of odd page could be problematic).
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Reference to a subitem
2008/10/23 Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Wanted result
Look at number 1 letter a
\def\ItemNumber#1%
{\expandafter\doItemNumber#1..\relax}
As usual, Wolfgang solved!
Mojca, can I have a Context t-shirt customized 'Wolfgang's fan club'?
--
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Re: [NTG-context] TeXshop
Hi Guys, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Wolfgang and Willi, As soon as I saw Wolfgang's message about TeXworks, I tried to install and use it, but without success (I even didn't figure out what Willi says about the libraries and so on). Maybe, in the sense of Mac OS X, it is not yet an application? I am stymmied too… This discussion a bit offtopic for the context list. TeXworks has its own mailing list where questions such as this should be asked, and I am 100% sure that Jonathan will be both happy to hear that people are actually trying to use the program and will be glad to help out anyone that runs into problems. Just go to http://tug.org/texworks/, and follow the mailing list link. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] no hyphenation over right page break?
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
There is only \brokenpenalty :
\brokenpenalty 1
\def\defaultbrokenpenalty {1}
\def\defaultgridbrokenpenalty {1}
This prevents ConTeXt from breaking any page after any line that ends
with a hyphen. That is not quite to what you asked, but it is about the
best that can be done automatically because in TeX, there is no direct
interaction between the paragraph breaker and the page breaker.
Thanks for this tip. I knew it would not work automatically, but this
helps at least to detect 'bad' page breaks.
Thanks,
Jelle
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
Otared Kavian schrieb:
Hi everyone,
Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through…
The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv,
while on mkii it is fine?
So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv?
works ok here. maybe you need an update.
Best wishes, Peter
Best regards: OK
%% defining swelled ruel, or English rule...
\setupMPvariables[SwelledRule][height=2pt,breadth=.667\localhsize]
\startuniqueMPgraphic{SwelledRule}{height,breadth}
x1 = 0; x2 = x6 = .333x4; x3 = x5 = .667x4; x4 = \MPvar{breadth};
y1 = y4 = \MPvar{height}/2; y2 = y3 = \MPvar{height}; y5 = y6 = 0;
fill z1--z2--z3--z4--z5--z6--cycle;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic
\def\SwelledRule{\blank%
\setlocalhsize\midaligned{\reuseMPgraphic{SwelledRule}}\blank}
%% end swelled rule
\starttext
This file has been typeset
on \currentdate{}
at \currenttime,
with
\doifmodeelse{mkiv}
{mkiv,
LuaTeX revision \luatexrevision,
(LuaTeX date stamp \luatexdatestamp),}
{mkii,
using the command:
\type{texexec basic-test.tex}},
ConTeXt version \contextversion.
% LuaTeX version \luatexversion,
Below should be a swelled rule: it appears with mkii, but not in mkiv
\dots
\SwelledRule
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otared Kavian schrieb: Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv, while on mkii it is fine? So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv? works ok here. maybe you need an update. Best wishes, Peter Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 Swelled rule not present -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
luigi scarso schrieb: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otared Kavian schrieb: Hi everyone, Sorry for posting this message again: I am not sure it went through… The following doesn't show the swelled rule defined below in mkiv, while on mkii it is fine? So my question is: is there a new way to define MPgraphic in mkiv? works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) Best wishes, Peter Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 Swelled rule not present -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new beta
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There are changes in the cached font data but this should not affect runs (apart from some fonts being recached). The memory footprint of fonts is slightly smaller, in otf we now handle multiple unicode - one glyph situations. As part of redoing structure related code i rewrote the moveable block code which will be part of the major update later this year. It's not yet 100% functional compatible but faster and more flexible. I'm wondering, are there mkiv users out there who use the block features? I tested the new block code with MkIV and everything is fine except two unnecessary files in my working directory, they are \jobname-texutil0.tmp and texutil.tub. no surprise because the new code is not yet in the beta -) the tub file is there for a second pass (backward refs) and the tmp is just the last block Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds
Hi all,
for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page
background to the second page. Example:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\startuniqueMPgraphic{fill}
StartPage ;
fill Page withcolor green ;
StopPage ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic
\defineoverlay
[testfill]
[\useMPgraphic{fill}]
\setupbackgrounds[page]
[background={testfill}]
\starttext
Hello
\page
World!
\stoptext
All best
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Persian interface
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
You need characters with catcode 11 for the commands and most of the
chars outside the ASCII range have catcode 12 which can be used only
in commands with the length 1 like your footnote example.
hm, maybe the catcode initialization takes place too late
Here is a example how to use umlauts for the german interface:
in the next beta this system is replaced by another one:
- mult-def.lua
this is a table that has all variables, constants, elements and commands
in a hash which then can be extended without the need to adapt the tex code
- mult-en, mult-de, mult-nl ...
these are generated by mtxrun --script interface --contect
- cont-en.xml cum suis
the derived ones are also generated by the previously mentioned command
- stripped down mult-ini.{mkii,mkiv}
the other two files (mult-con and mult-com) are no longer used
taco and i are currently checking the new zip
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102101, build 1568 -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: This seems to be a duplicate of the other \uniqueMPgraphic problem. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone!
I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying to
make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is the list
of problems I've encountered:
1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?)
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\def\os{\groupedcommand{\setfontfeature{oldstyle}}{}}
Shouldn't that be just
\def\os{\setufontfeature{oldstyle}}
Aditya
\starttext
0123456789 {\os 0123456789}
\stoptext
Test the other fonts by yourself.
2. adventor have italic but slanted displays as normal (roman)
3. cursor have only roman script (no bold, slanted, etc.)
Is this due to lack of fonts in Gyre package, some omissions in type-otf.tex
or my typescript definitions are not complete?
Here is the test file which I've used (some cyrillic text also):
\starttypescript[mygyre]
% change font last arg according to definitions in type-otf.tex
% pagella, termes, bonum, schola
\definetypeface [mygyre] [rm] [serif] [pagella]
% heros, adventor
\definetypeface [mygyre] [ss] [sans] [adventor]
\definetypeface [mygyre] [tt] [sans] [cursor]
\definetypeface [mygyre] [mm] [math] [palatino]
\stoptypescript
\startbuffer[tests]
\starttabulate
\NC \tf tf \NC \tf Нормальный текст \NC\AR
\NC \bf bf \NC \bf Полужирный текст \NC\AR
\NC \it it \NC \it Курсивный текст \NC\AR
\NC \sl sl \NC \sl Наклонный текст \NC\AR
\NC \bi bi \NC \bi Полужирный курсив\NC\AR
\NC \bs bs \NC \bs Полужирынй наклонный \NC\AR
\NC \sc sc \NC \sc Пробный текст\NC\AR
\stoptabulate
\stopbuffer
\usetypescript[mygyre]
\setupbodyfont[mygyre]
\starttext
\section{roman (rm)}
{\rm \getbuffer[tests]}
\section{sans-serif (ss)}
{\ss \getbuffer[tests]}
\section{teletype (tt)}
{\tt \getbuffer[tests]}
\stoptext
I'll update Russian section in the wiki, once these points are clarified.
--
Regards,
Oleg Kolosov
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Everyone!
I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently trying
to
make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is the
list
of problems I've encountered:
1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?)
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\def\os{\groupedcommand{\setfontfeature{oldstyle}}{}}
Shouldn't that be just
\def\os{\setufontfeature{oldstyle}}
I don't know what the best method is, I never user them in this way.
Hans suggested this method.
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080920.104922.1b864b2b.en.html
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup
Hi all,
Another question, this time about \headers and \footers. On the first
page of the chapter I have the page number in the footer and on all
other pages they are in the header. This works fine, as expected.
However I have to include an \externalfigure *before* the \chapter
command and I discovered that I have to use \startcombination because
otherwise the \chapter moves to the next page. However, when I use
\startcombination ... etc \chapter is not longer the first thing on the
page and the special header/footer setup is not triggered (apparently
\chapter has to come first for that to happen). See sample code:
% sample
\definetext[mychapter][footer][pagenumber]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high,footer=mychapter]
\showframe
\starttext
%\startcombination[1*1]{\externalfigure}{ % uncomment to see problem
\chapter{first}
%}\stopcombination % uncomment to see problem
\dorecurse{20}{\input tufte \relax}
\chapter{second} \dorecurse{20}{\input tufte \relax} % this works as
expected
\stoptext
% sample
Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command
before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that
is not printed after all?)
Thanks for any help.
Jelle
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Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup
Jelle Huisman wrote: Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that is not printed after all?) I would put the externalfigure in the before= of the chapter head, maybe wrapped in some form of \doifelse. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
On 23 oct. 08, at 14:44, Peter Rolf wrote: luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102101, build 1568 The version I have is the one from the Garden: […] typeset on October 23, 2008 at 15:57, with mkiv, LuaTeX revision 2, (LuaTeX date stamp 2008102016),, ConTeXt version 2008.10.21 19:42. By the way other MetaPost graphics don't show up neither with my mkiv. Thanks for your attention: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
luigi scarso schrieb: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Peter Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: luigi scarso schrieb: works ok here. maybe you need an update. ...maybe you need a downgrade ;) What is your setup ? Not here, with minimals-beta : luatex --version This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.21 19:42 This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102101, build 1568 (I'm on a linux box) hm Context version ? currently not the latest beta (no time). MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.08 23:34 (see attached pdf of the first mail) :D OS is Windows XP SP3 -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds
On Oct 23, 2008, at 3:31 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page background to the second page. Example: This seems to be a duplicate of the other \uniqueMPgraphic problem. Best wishes, Taco Ah OK, sorry for the noise then. Best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
currently not the latest beta (no time). MtxRun | current version: 2008.10.08 23:34 (see attached pdf of the first mail) :D Just tested with ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.21 19:42 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.23 int: english/english So, it seems a bug of minimal-beta . -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) It's no a problem, at least for me; I'm collecting test scripts . As I said more times, minimals-beta works . -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that is not printed after all?) I would put the externalfigure in the before= of the chapter head, maybe wrapped in some form of \doifelse. I managed to get it working, thanks again Taco. (Once this project is finished I'll add stuff like this to the wiki.) Groeten, Jelle ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
On 23 oct. 08, at 16:13, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) Hi Taco, Thanks for your attention… But there is no worry about such bugs: I am just trying under mkiv some of the files already typeset with mkii, to see what is working and what is not. Sorry if I am causing too much noise ;-) Best regards: OK ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Alan BRASLAU wrote: My question to the mailing list: is this task structured? Is this being managed by anyone? Unfortunately, not. Aditya's reply sums it up pretty well. I just want to add a quick note. After at least half a dozen reiterations of this discussion (and it is indeed always exactly the same discussion), I have now reached the point where I no longer feel the slightest need to take any action any more. From where I stand, it seems that the unhappy people just want to complain about, but are not willing to help improve the existing documentation, and that the happy people just want to post pointers but fail to see a real need to improve anything. I myself would be much more willing to spend time on (managing|writing) the manual if there were any people showing an active interest in it. I myself am very interested in *reading* it - I was delighted to see the new fonts chapter and the new documention project in general. But I am not sure I can contribute much. I am much more of a consumer than a producer, of accurate information. Partly due to lack of time, but also lack of knowledge :) -- John Devereux ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Oleg Kolosov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello Everyone!
I've started to experiment with MkIV in ConTeXt minimals recently
trying to
make TeX Gyre fonts work with as few definitions as possible. Here is
the list
of problems I've encountered:
1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?)
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\def\os{\groupedcommand{\setfontfeature{oldstyle}}{}}
Shouldn't that be just
\def\os{\setufontfeature{oldstyle}}
the grouped variant permits \os{123} and {\os 123}
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Re: [NTG-context] picture before \chapter breaking \header \footer setup
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Jelle Huisman wrote:
Hi all,
Another question, this time about \headers and \footers. On the first
page of the chapter I have the page number in the footer and on all
other pages they are in the header. This works fine, as expected.
However I have to include an \externalfigure *before* the \chapter
command and I discovered that I have to use \startcombination because
otherwise the \chapter moves to the next page. However, when I use
\startcombination ... etc \chapter is not longer the first thing on the
page and the special header/footer setup is not triggered (apparently
\chapter has to come first for that to happen). See sample code:
You can try to play around with \setuphead[chapter][command=\something]
and make sure that \something puts a figure where you want. You will need
to specify the figure by other mechanism (define a command, pass two
arguments trough one argument, etc).
Aditya
% sample
\definetext[mychapter][footer][pagenumber]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high,footer=mychapter]
\showframe
\starttext
%\startcombination[1*1]{\externalfigure}{ % uncomment to see problem
\chapter{first}
%}\stopcombination % uncomment to see problem
\dorecurse{20}{\input tufte \relax}
\chapter{second} \dorecurse{20}{\input tufte \relax} % this works as
expected
\stoptext
% sample
Is it possible to make this work? (maybe an extra \chapter command
before the combination that triggers the header-footer setup, but that
is not printed after all?)
Thanks for any help.
Jelle
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
The version I have is the one from the Garden: […] typeset on October 23, 2008 at 15:57, with mkiv, LuaTeX revision 2, (LuaTeX date stamp 2008102016),, ConTeXt version 2008.10.21 19:42. (From the moonlight gardener) For future reference, the LuaTeX version used on the Garden is written below the input form, between brackets, next to LuaTeX in the radiobox (in that case, beta-0.30.2). But listen to the director of the Federal Reserve ... er, Pragma, and don't panic! Your ConTeXt stocks aren't going to lose value any time soon ;-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)
Hi, John Devereux wrote: I myself am very interested in *reading* it - I was delighted to see the new fonts chapter and the new documention project in general. But I am not sure I can contribute much. I am much more of a consumer than a producer, of accurate information. Partly due to lack of time, but also lack of knowledge :) There actually is something you (and everybody else) can do: provide feedback on the current version of the manual(s). For example, it would be nice to know whether there are errors or unclarities in it (or omissions, but that actually does require knowledge). For an easy start, the two pdfs of the typography and fonts chapters are on-line: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf The other chapters are a bit harder to comment on because (currently) you have to be able to compile the manual yourself to read the pdfs. Anyway, in and below the same folder are all needed sources: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en (Maybe someone could put the current full pdf online somewhere?) There also is a mailing list specifically about the new manual: http://lists.foundry.supelec.fr/mailman/listinfo/contextman-reference Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] project structure simplification ?
Hi, when there is only one product, only one environment-style (but lots of component) in a project, is it necessary to start the files with these respective lines ... \startproject the_project \startproduct the_product \startenvironment the_style ... or is it sufficient for referencing to call only the file the_project.tex, the_product, the_style ? [asking for both, MkII and MkIV] Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] beta
Hi,
i uploaded a beta that can handle
\starttext
\setinterfacecommand{setuphead}{stelleüberschriftein}
\section{Oeps}
\stelleüberschriftein[section][style=\bf]
\section{Oeps}
\defineregister[xüber]
test \xüber{oeps} oeps
\stoptext
now, for a persian interface, one needs to
= copy cont-en.tex to cont-xx.tex with xx being persian
= in cont-xx.tex change \defaultinterface to persian
= add the mapping from xx to persian to mult-def.tex
= add the xx entries to mult-def.lua (most work)
= run mtxrun --script interface --context
= make the xx format
= cross fingers and run a test file
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with mkiv and MPgraphic
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:24 PM, luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, This is rumour control. Here are the facts! Yes, there is a bug in the latest beta, and Hans is dealing with it. The situation is well taken care of. ;-) It's no a problem, at least for me; I'm collecting test scripts . As I said more times, minimals-beta works . -- luigi it works now Linux luigicasa-laptop 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknow ConTeXt ver: 2008.10.23 17:32 MKIV fmt: 2008.10.23 int: english/english -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.
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Re: [NTG-context] bug in latest: page backgrounds
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
for some reason, the latest beta defers the application of a page
background to the second page. Example:
\setupcolors[state=start]
\startuniqueMPgraphic{fill}
StartPage ;
fill Page withcolor green ;
StopPage ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic
\defineoverlay
[testfill]
[\useMPgraphic{fill}]
\setupbackgrounds[page]
[background={testfill}]
\starttext
Hello
\page
World!
\stoptext
it works now
minimals-beta
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i686 GNU/Linux
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.30.2-2008102016, build unknown
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.
OK, this year latex wins http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/about/awards/pr/vonneupr.html I suppose you know it, but obviously, Lamport got the prize for his contribution to distributed computing, *not* to TeX macros ;-) He used to come to my university as an invited professor quite often, and apparently he didn't really appreciate when young students came to him to talk about LaTeX ... Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 09:05, Piotr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff, would it be allright for You to publish the source of Your very useful python Endnote-Bibtex conversion program? I don't mind, but I will have to have a look at it again first, if you do not mind the little delay. I actually made it to learn Python, and at the time I struggled with UTF-8 outputs, so it remained incomplete on this and I just manually re-saved my file as such. I'll correct that. Also, now that I remember, my code creates entry keys based on author name and publication year. If I remember well, I also believe the keys didn't work when they were not pure ASCII, so I had this small function getting rid of all accented characters in keys, as my native language is actually French. I will recode it to make it universal. Jeff ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, this year latex wins http://www.ieee.org/portal/pages/about/awards/pr/vonneupr.html I suppose you know it, but obviously, Lamport got the prize for his contribution to distributed computing, *not* to TeX macros ;-) naahh He used to come to my university as an invited professor quite often, and apparently he didn't really appreciate when young students came to him to talk about LaTeX ... apparently. btw next meeting we must study a new strategy.The last wasn't strong enough . Maybe more beer (ok, I was silver medal this year, I can do better) -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [OT] More lobby , please.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: He used to come to my university as an invited professor quite often, and apparently he didn't really appreciate when young students came to him to talk about LaTeX ... Even about a concurrent TeX? ah, this is not impossible with luatex http://lua-users.org/wiki/CoroutinesTutorial -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)
Hi, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, John Devereux wrote: There actually is something you (and everybody else) can do: provide feedback on the current version of the manual(s). For example, it would be nice to know whether there are errors or unclarities in it (or omissions, but that actually does require knowledge). I am very much a ConTeXt beginner and so I don't feel capable of reading the documentation to find ConTeXt-related errors or omissions. However, I would be glad to help by looking for typos, spelling errors, etc. (Actually, I rarely find spelling errors in the documentation but sometimes I see phrasing and grammar that isn't wrong, but sounds funny to a native English speaker.) Due to a long commute on the train I find myself with plenty of time for reading, so I'd be glad to help in any way I can. I am sorry that you have felt unsupported in your efforts to update the documentation; I am one of the users who (silently) wishes for more up to date documents but has done nothing to help. For an easy start, the two pdfs of the typography and fonts chapters are on-line: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf I will start with these. The other chapters are a bit harder to comment on because (currently) you have to be able to compile the manual yourself to read the pdfs. Perhaps someone who is able to compile the manual could upload pdf copies? Best wishes, Taco Thanks for all your work on ConTeXt, Taco (and Hans of course, along with Aditya, Wolfgang, et al.) Rory ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
1. No small-caps in any font (gyre fonts doesn't have that yet?)
I didn't check yet, but it's probably a global problem in mkiv
smallcaps support.
Tried with MkII and MkIV. No small caps in sans-serif only if text is written
in english. In MkIV with gyre smallcaps are available only in normal script.
But with cyrillic no smallcaps in every case.
If you need I can test every combination and make a more detailed report.
2. adventor have italic but slanted displays as normal (roman)
in type-otf.tex at least this is missing:
\starttypescript [sans] [adventor] % and possibly others
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix{n:\typescripttwo}-Regular]
The same is true for mono.
Great! These definitions fixed the most problems. One note: previously
cyrillic should be smallcaps text displayed as roman, now it is missing
completely, but latin works fine. Is there a workaround to remap this somehow?
I didn't learn about typescripts enough yet to do this myself (but working on
it).
3. cursor have only roman script (no bold, slanted, etc.)
\definetypeface [mygyre] [tt] [sans] [cursor]
Try
\definetypeface [mygyre] [tt] [mono] [cursor]
Also, in type-otf.tex one needs to fix
\starttypescript [sans] [cursor] [name]
into
\starttypescript [sans] [mono] [name]
Possibly this should be: \starttypescript [mono] [cursor] [name] ?
(I'm just afraid that you'll find so many problem in the Cyrillic part
of Gyre ...)
Except for missing small-caps (this is not critical at all) and with addition
of your definitions in type-otf.tex TeX Gyre support is enough to write in
Russian language (tested all fonts). I've compiled big documents and not found
any deficiencies so far.
Attached the resulting type-otf.tex. Maybe this'll save a few minutes for
someone.
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%D \module
%D [ file=type-otf,
%Dversion=2007.07.30,
%D title=\CONTEXT\ Typescript Macros,
%D subtitle=Opentype Definitions,
%D author=Hans Hagen,
%D date=\currentdate,
%D copyright={PRAGMA / Hans Hagen \ Ton Otten}]
%C
%C This module is part of the \CONTEXT\ macro||package and is
%C therefore copyrighted by \PRAGMA. See mreadme.pdf for
%C details.
%D Actually, \LUATEX\ does not need all these definitions since it can
%D consult its database. However, here we use the names that we used
%D in good old \TEX, and these may differ a bit. Here we also see
%D some oldstyle definitions which normally are done with features.
\starttypescriptcollection[examples]
\starttypescript [fallback]
\definetypeface [] [rm] [serif] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [] [ss] [sans] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [] [tt] [mono] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [] [mm] [math] [modern] [computer-modern]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [modern]
\definetypeface [modern] [rm] [serif] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [modern] [ss] [sans] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [modern] [tt] [mono] [modern] [computer-modern]
\definetypeface [modern] [mm] [math] [modern] [computer-modern]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [modern-base]
\definetypeface [modern] [rm] [serif] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [modern] [ss] [sans] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [modern] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [modern] [mm] [math] [modern] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [postscript]
\definetypeface [postscript] [rm] [serif] [times] [default]
\definetypeface [postscript] [ss] [sans] [helvetica] [default] [rscale=.9]
\definetypeface [postscript] [tt] [mono] [courier] [default] [rscale=1.1]
\definetypeface [postscript] [mm] [math] [times] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [times]
\definetypeface [times] [rm] [serif] [times] [default]
\definetypeface [times] [ss] [sans] [helvetica] [default] [rscale=0.9]
\definetypeface [times] [tt] [mono] [modern][default] [rscale=1.05]
\definetypeface [times] [mm] [math] [times] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [palatino]
\definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default]
\definetypeface [palatino] [ss] [sans] [modern] [default] [rscale=1.075]
\definetypeface [palatino] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default] [rscale=1.075]
\definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math] [palatino] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [modernvariable]
\definetypeface [modernvariable] [rm] [serif] [simple] [default]
\definetypeface [modernvariable] [ss] [sans] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [modernvariable] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface [modernvariable] [mm] [math] [modern] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
[NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file
Hi all, Taco!
I was experimenting with bib module and discovered something which looks like
a bug.
'texexec' ('texexec bibtest') runs fine but typesets references ('s' key)
incorrectly.
As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex'
manually once ('bibtex bibtest'), then 'context' ('context bibtest') gives
'Invalid UTF-8 sequence' error.
The resulting .bbl is the same in both cases.
It seems that 'author' field and 's' key in bbl file are generated
incorrectly, while others like 'title', 'city', etc. are fine.
See the attached files.
I'm using just updated minimals. t-bib version 2008.04.17.
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\setuppublicationlist[samplesize={ÐÐ02},totalnumber=1]
\startpublication[k=parintro,t=book,
a={{ÐнÑонов}},y=2002,
n=1,s=ÐÐ02]
\author[]{Ð.~С.}[Ð.~Ð.]{}{ÐнÑонов}
\pubyear{2002}
\title{Ðведение в паÑаллелÑнÑе вÑÑиÑлениÑ}
\city{ÐоÑква}
\pubname{ÐÐУ им. ÐомоноÑова}
\stoppublication
\enableregime[utf]
\useregime[utf]
\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database=bibtest.bib]
\starttext
\section Bibmodule test
Cite\cite[parintro].
\placepublications
\stoptext
@book{parintro,
author = Ð. С. ÐнÑонов,
title = Ðведение в паÑаллелÑнÑе вÑÑиÑлениÑ,
type = ÐеÑодиÑеÑкое поÑобие,
pages = 69,
address = ÐоÑква,
publisher = ÐÐУ им. ÐомоноÑова,
year = 2002
}
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Re: [NTG-context] beta
On Thu, Oct 23 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
\defineregister[xüber]
test \xüber{oeps} oeps
Great, even \def\höhö{blabla} works!
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Re: [NTG-context] new beta
On Oct 23, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: just move the definition one level up \starttypescript [One] \definetypeface [One] [rm] [serif] [one] [default] [features=mytest] \stoptypescript That doesn't solve the problem. The font feature mytest is still applied to both defined typefaces (instead of only typeface One). Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file
Oleg Kolosov wrote:
'texexec' ('texexec bibtest') runs fine but typesets references ('s' key)
incorrectly.
As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex'
manually once ('bibtex bibtest'), then 'context' ('context bibtest') gives
'Invalid UTF-8 sequence' error.
This is caused by the fact that bibtex doesn't understand UTF-8 at all
(it is only able to do something useful with byte encodings). I have
no immediate solution for you, the best advice I can offer right now is
for you to manually fix the bbl file after running bibtex.
The whole database is converted in one go, and there is never a need to
re-run bibtex unless when you delete the bbl by accident, so this is
a single (laborious) step (under the assumption that the bib file is
finished already). A long-term solution will depend on a more modern
bib database processor (like J.M. Hufflen's mlbibtex).
Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] PhD Thesis in ConTeXt
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 04:37:23PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater napisa#322;(a): Hi, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Alan BRASLAU wrote: My question to the mailing list: is this task structured? Is this being managed by anyone? Unfortunately, not. Aditya's reply sums it up pretty well. I just want to add a quick note. After at least half a dozen reiterations of this discussion (and it is indeed always exactly the same discussion), I have now reached the point where I no longer feel the slightest need to take any action any more. From where I stand, it seems that the unhappy people just want to complain about, but are not willing to help improve the existing documentation, and that the happy people just want to post pointers but fail to see a real need to improve anything. I'm (relatively) new here (I've been subscribed to the list for a few years, but only recently started to use ConTeXt more seriously), but I'd like to take the risk and add my point of view. I miss a good documentation *a lot*. OTOH, if I were to choose among the uber-community and uber-manual, I'd prefer the first one (maybe that's why people prefer the status quo;)). I would love to help improve the existing docs, though. Having uber-manuals *and* uber-community would smash this poor LaTeX-thing out of the market;P. The question is: what do I do? I post something to the wiki from time to time, but I don't want to engage myself too much - I'm currently involved in at least one *big* project (which is, btw, connected with writing some LaTeX document classes); together with my work (doing and teaching mathematics) this takes *a lot* of time... What's more, I can't really help writing manuals for something I don't completely understand... I myself would be much more willing to spend time on (managing|writing) the manual if there were any people showing an active interest in it. Assume that I finally learn how to use that SVN thing and that I try (in some indefinite time, though) post my remarks on the existing docs, my examples of files so that they could be either introduced into the manuals or deemed non-ConTeXt-esque enough;) or my suggestions of rewriting something: would this help? And a general remark: of course, my point is not to wipe out LaTeX. It has its place. But popularizing ConTeXt would be great (and I'm doing it all the time among my friends!). And good manuals are a *must* then... Obviously, writing a good manual takes really much time (and from some point of view is harder than actually writing code, I guess - it's very similar in maths, when it's way easier to jot down some notes for yourself than to prepare some proof for actual publication...) As I said before (in another post), it's completely obvious for me that neither Hans nor you, Taco, have time for writing a good documentation... Best wishes, Taco Best, -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Documentation (Re: PhD Thesis in ConTeXt)
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 05:38:44PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater napisa#322;(a): Hi, John Devereux wrote: I myself am very interested in *reading* it - I was delighted to see the new fonts chapter and the new documention project in general. But I am not sure I can contribute much. I am much more of a consumer than a producer, of accurate information. Partly due to lack of time, but also lack of knowledge :) There actually is something you (and everybody else) can do: provide feedback on the current version of the manual(s). For example, it would be nice to know whether there are errors or unclarities in it (or omissions, but that actually does require knowledge). For an easy start, the two pdfs of the typography and fonts chapters are on-line: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-typography.pdf http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en/co-fonts.pdf The other chapters are a bit harder to comment on because (currently) you have to be able to compile the manual yourself to read the pdfs. Anyway, in and below the same folder are all needed sources: http://context.aanhet.net/svn/contextman/context-reference/en (Maybe someone could put the current full pdf online somewhere?) There also is a mailing list specifically about the new manual: http://lists.foundry.supelec.fr/mailman/listinfo/contextman-reference Best wishes, Taco Wow! You've answered my questions even before I asked them!!! //TeX hacking is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, ekhm, unnatural.// (Not really a SW fan, but I just couldn't resist;).) -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Invalid UTF-8 sequence in bbl file
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
As MkIV does not run bibtex on input files automatically, I run 'bibtex'
manually once ('bibtex bibtest'), then 'context' ('context bibtest') gives
'Invalid UTF-8 sequence' error.
This is caused by the fact that bibtex doesn't understand UTF-8 at all
(it is only able to do something useful with byte encodings). I have
no immediate solution for you, the best advice I can offer right now is
for you to manually fix the bbl file after running bibtex.
The whole database is converted in one go, and there is never a need to
re-run bibtex unless when you delete the bbl by accident, so this is
a single (laborious) step (under the assumption that the bib file is
finished already). A long-term solution will depend on a more modern
bib database processor (like J.M. Hufflen's mlbibtex).
I didn't think about bibtex as a separate package from old times, was too
carried away by luatex fancies. Thanks for clarifying this out.
I've used the following workaround: write bib file in 8-bit encoding (koi8-r
for example), run bibtex on it once, then convert bbl to UTF-8. This works
perfectly, should have guessed it earlier. I don't change bib files
frequently, so this solution suits me well.
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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:07:46PM +0400, Oleg Kolosov napisa#322;(a): Attached the resulting type-otf.tex. Maybe this'll save a few minutes for someone. Wow! I don't have the time to test it now with Polish, but I'll do it soon probably. I guess it is usable only in MkIV...? If yes, I'll have to switch;). Hans, any chance to have this code included someday soon in the minimals? Regards, Oleg Kolosov Greets -- Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Some questions about TeX Gyre support in minimals
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:53 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Dnia Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 11:07:46PM +0400, Oleg Kolosov napisa#322;(a): Attached the resulting type-otf.tex. Maybe this'll save a few minutes for someone. Wow! I don't have the time to test it now with Polish, but I'll do it soon probably. I guess it is usable only in MkIV...? If yes, I'll have to switch;). If there are problems with mkii, type-gyr.tex should be fixed as well. Just point to the problems. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
