Re: [NTG-context] chapter-like headings with separate numbering

2008-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm experimenting with making a heading that is like a chapter in format but has its own numbering (or lettering). The purpose to have an interlude, or extended example, every few chapters. The following almost-minimal

Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf

2008-11-26 Thread Michail Vidiassov
Dear All, Renaud Aubin wrote: See http://www.nibua-r.org/ConTeXt/devel/ while the macros there are a great improvement from what was posted on the list and look extandable for my purposes (thanks, Renaud), the other question remains - does it make sense to try to implement 3d model embedding in

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:30:51PM -0600, Lars Huttar napisa#322;(a): It makes sense for italicness and serifity to be independently changeable. What's discouraging to me as a entrant to the whole TeX world (but an experienced programmer) is the (apparently undocumented) redefinition of a

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Peter M√ľnster
On Tue, Nov 25 2008, Lars Huttar wrote: If it's designed not to do that in ConTeXt -- i.e. the ConTeXt designers decided to change the semantics of one of the basic control sequences in TeX, rather than merely providing a different one with new semantics -- you would think one would want that

[NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Yue Wang
hi: it seems that mpfigure will be in the wrong position using the xetex engine. here is the sample file: % engine=xetex \starttext \setupcolors [state=start] \startMPpage path p ; color c[] ; p := fullsquare scaled 4cm ; c[0] := transparent(1,.5,red) ; c[1] :=

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.11.2008 um 10:04 schrieb Yue Wang: hi: it seems that mpfigure will be in the wrong position using the xetex engine. here is the sample file: % engine=xetex \starttext \setupcolors [state=start] \startMPpage path p ; color c[] ; p := fullsquare scaled 4cm ; c[0] :=

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread vafa
ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems that ConTeXt has heaps of bugs. LaTeX rocks...! Get a FREE AOL Email account with

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. yes, true. Also LaTeX peaple always have used to say that LaTeX is better than ConTeXt is true I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems that ConTeXt has heaps of bugs. LaTeX rocks...! Anyone who has never made a mistake has never

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:38:59AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. yes, true. Not entirely (see below). Also LaTeX peaple always have used to say

Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf

2008-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Michail Vidiassov [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear All, Renaud Aubin wrote: See http://www.nibua-r.org/ConTeXt/devel/ while the macros there are a great improvement from what was posted on the list and look extandable for my purposes (thanks, Renaud), the

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Marcin Borkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:38:59AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX.

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread vafa
I am on the wrong list because I just said ``LaTeX rocks''? I would like to apologise you and anyone else from the bottom of my heart if I have offended you and others, but honestly I did not mean it. I am just on this list because I want to study ConText (its TeX programming) more deeply.

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/26/2008 2:41 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: Dnia Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:30:51PM -0600, Lars Huttar napisa#322;(a): It makes sense for italicness and serifity to be independently changeable. What's discouraging to me as a entrant to the whole TeX world (but an experienced programmer) is

Re: [NTG-context] chapter-like headings with separate numbering

2008-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.11.2008 um 12:45 schrieb Sanjoy Mahajan: luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seem that interlude is like a section, so it's correct that at every chapter there is a reset of the alphabetical counter I meant the interludes to be long examples based upon the preceding few

[NTG-context] Weighted colors in MkIV

2008-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi, in MkIV there is a problem when I set tints for a color. This is a complete minimal example of my setup: \setupcolors[state=start,rgb=no,cmyk=yes,spot=yes] % rgb= no needed in MkII \setupcolor [hex] \definecolor[PantoneOneEightSeven][h=C40F2F,e=Pantone 187 U] \definespotcolor[dtkred]

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/26/2008 7:43 AM, Lars Huttar wrote: ... and the word regular in typography usually (as far as I can tell... please enlighten) means upright in contrast to italic. I now see that regular (apparently less often) can refer to weight: not bold or light. Still, the point remains. Lars

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Yue Wang
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems that ConTeXt has heaps of bugs. Staying at an older version of ConTeXt (for example, I always use

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Lars Huttar wrote: Except perhaps the documentation. I have yet to find a reference that clearly describes what \rm is to do in ConTeXt. One responder pointed to http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.pdf. The closest thing to a definition of \rm there that I could find is on

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:09:08AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Marcin Borkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:38:59AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Hans Hagen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems that ConTeXt has heaps of bugs. ? for sure the luatex/mkiv (not to be confused with pdftex/mkii) pair has heaps of bugs (which are

Re: [NTG-context] chapter-like headings with separate numbering

2008-11-26 Thread Sanjoy Mahajan
luigi scarso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seem that interlude is like a section, so it's correct that at every chapter there is a reset of the alphabetical counter I meant the interludes to be long examples based upon the preceding few chapters. So I think of interludes as at the same level as

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Yue Wang
moreover, setupinteraction[state=start, focus=normal] and \goto will always point to the wrong position in xetex. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Wolfgang Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 26.11.2008 um 10:04 schrieb Yue Wang: hi: it seems that mpfigure will be in the wrong position

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Yue Wang
Hi: Please, shut up and code: we need to fix these bugs first! Yue Wang On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Marcin Borkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:38:59AM +0100, luigi scarso napisa#322;(a): On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ConTeXt

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Marcin Borkowski wrote: Me not being an experienced programmer, but (some kind) of more or less experienced TeX user, I'd add the following. ... makes a nice 'about tex systems' page for the wiki -

Re: [NTG-context] setup/switchtobodyfont question

2008-11-26 Thread Alan STONE
Same question related to setuplayout. On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Alan STONE [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: The main manual mentions (ch 5 Typography, pg 92): In most cases, the command \setupbodyfont is only used once: in the styledefinition. Fontswitching is done with \switchtobodyfont.

Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf

2008-11-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Michail Vidiassov wrote: Dear All, Renaud Aubin wrote: See http://www.nibua-r.org/ConTeXt/devel/ while the macros there are a great improvement from what was posted on the list and look extandable for my purposes (thanks, Renaud), the other question remains - does it make sense to try

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Hans Hagen
Lars Huttar wrote: Interesting. As a newbie to typesetting, reading the TeXbook, I certainly wondered which axes Knuth meant 'roman' to refer to... he simply describes it as 'normal roman' and gives a visual example. So far, all I'd gathered was that it meant not italic. you should keep in

Re: [NTG-context] bug in mkii xetex: mp figure is not in the right position

2008-11-26 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 04:28:35AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa#322;(a): ConTeXt peaple always have used to say that ConTeXt is better than LaTeX. I have been recieving emails from CoNTeXt list and it seems that ConTeXt has heaps of bugs. LaTeX rocks...! Sorry, but I just can't

Re: [NTG-context] setup/switchtobodyfont question

2008-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.11.2008 um 12:43 schrieb Alan STONE: The main manual mentions (ch 5 Typography, pg 92): In most cases, the command \setupbodyfont is only used once: in the styledefinition. Fontswitching is done with \switchtobodyfont. Don't mix these two up because this may lead to some rather

Re: [NTG-context] columnset running into footer when using \setupheader[state=high]

2008-11-26 Thread Jelle Huisman
Jelle Huisman wrote: % columnset running into footer area \definelayout[1][] \setupheader[state=high] \definetext[footerpagenumber][footer][pagenumber] \setuphead[chapter][page=yes,header=high,footer=footerpagenumber,number=no,align=middle] \definecolumnset[columnl][n=2] \showgrid

[NTG-context] printing tab in lua: print('a\tb') fails

2008-11-26 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hello, Here's a tiny question. The following command complains about undefined control sequence. \starttext \startluacode print('a\tb') \stopluacode hello \stoptext There is a workaround: print(string.format('a\t%s', 'b')) but I find it weird. Even if the line above gets commented out with

Re: [NTG-context] printing tab in lua: print('a\tb') fails

2008-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 26.11.2008 um 20:07 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: Hello, Here's a tiny question. The following command complains about undefined control sequence. \starttext \startluacode print('a\tb') print('a\t b') \stopluacode hello \stoptext There is a workaround:

Re: [NTG-context] End Notes and Minimals

2008-11-26 Thread Bart C. Wise
Hans, What's the chances on getting this fixed? Or is there a stable branch somewhere that I can grab? Thanks! Bart On Tuesday 25 November 2008 11:47:38 am Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 25.11.2008 um 19:39 schrieb Bart C. Wise: Below are four different ways I've tried to get endnotes to