[NTG-context] gtamac symbols and mkiv

2009-11-11 Thread Jörg Hagmann
I have been using symbols (such as Fleuron) from the gtamacfonts in an 
annual publication.
Trying to change to mkiv: what exactly should I do to install them? So 
far, my attempts were not successful. (Attempts meaning: copying the tt 
fonts and the type- and other files that seem to have anything to do 
with it into my minimal installation, reloading the fonts and remaking 
the formats).


Thanks, Jörg

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:38, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 19:10, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 this line:
   { name = rtxmi.tfm, vector = tex-mi, skewchar=0x7F },
 might need to become:
   { name = txmi.tfm, vector = tex-mi, skewchar=0x7F },

 This seems to be using txmi.vf (and .tmf) in mkii (I suspect that, I'm
 not 100% sure).

 I have no idea whether Hans has already implemented reading the
 original vf fonts in ConTeXt. I suspect that we need to figure out how
 exactly those tx fonts work (what slot maps to what glyph in what
 font).

 mkiv will read vf metrics when asked for, but as tx/px is close to default i
 didn't bother looking at it in too much detail

 It is close to default, but it uses some vf fonts with all the glyphs
 on standard places. On the other hand Polish fonts use just normal
 tfm/pfb files.

 if someone wants more complete support .. he/she has to contribute the right
 vectors (in the case of these fonts, i prefer to stay very close to the raw
 font files, i.e. no vf because then we know what we're dealing with)

 No vf is fine, but ... can mkiv (at least in theory) read vf files?

 How does one disassemble vf files otherwise? vftosomething?

r...@john:/opt/TeXLive2008/texlive/2008/bin/i386-linux# ./vftovp --help

Usage: vftovp [OPTION]... VFNAME[.vf] [TFMNAME[.tfm] [VPLFILE[.vpl]]]
  Translate VFNAME and companion TFMNAME to human-readable
  virtual property list file VPLFILE or standard output.
  If TFMNAME is not specified, VFNAME (with `.vf' removed) is used.

-charcode-format=TYPE  output character codes according to TYPE,
   either `octal' or `ascii'; default is ascii for
letters and digits, octal for all else
-help   display this help and exit
-verbose   display progress reports
-version   output version information and exit

Email bug reports to te...@mail.tug.org.

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:38, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 19:10, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


this line:
  { name = rtxmi.tfm, vector = tex-mi, skewchar=0x7F },
might need to become:
  { name = txmi.tfm, vector = tex-mi, skewchar=0x7F },


This seems to be using txmi.vf (and .tmf) in mkii (I suspect that, I'm
not 100% sure).

I have no idea whether Hans has already implemented reading the
original vf fonts in ConTeXt. I suspect that we need to figure out how
exactly those tx fonts work (what slot maps to what glyph in what
font).


mkiv will read vf metrics when asked for, but as tx/px is close to default i
didn't bother looking at it in too much detail


It is close to default, but it uses some vf fonts with all the glyphs
on standard places. On the other hand Polish fonts use just normal
tfm/pfb files.


Since now there are opentype math fonts that compatible with times and 
palatino (xits and asana), can we use them as defaults in mkiv. That will 
make things much simpler.


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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:21, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 Since now there are opentype math fonts that compatible with times and
 palatino (xits and asana), can we use them as defaults in mkiv. That will
 make things much simpler.

This is definitely true (there is also Termes Math planned, I guess),
but then it would be nice to support px properly as well. I'm ready to
fix the vectors, but I need to figure out what's in those virtual
fonts first. (I'll try to test the vftothatweirdformat unless mkiv can
return me something more readable :)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:


No vf is fine, but ... can mkiv (at least in theory) read vf files?


sure, has always been there btw; just grep for vf -)


How does one disassemble vf files otherwise? vftosomething? I have
absolutely no idea what's in there. If mkiv can read vf, I would at
least cheat in such a way that I would read the font with mkiv, print
out the contents (what slot points to what place) and then rearrange
the contents in some more primitive format that mkiv could be
interpreting in the same way as all the other math fonts.


no fun ...

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:37, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 No vf is fine, but ... can mkiv (at least in theory) read vf files?

 sure, has always been there btw; just grep for vf -)

OK.

 How does one disassemble vf files otherwise? vftosomething? I have
 absolutely no idea what's in there. If mkiv can read vf, I would at
 least cheat in such a way that I would read the font with mkiv, print
 out the contents (what slot points to what place) and then rearrange
 the contents in some more primitive format that mkiv could be
 interpreting in the same way as all the other math fonts.

 no fun ...

There are some kerning pairs in that vf file. Do they play any role at
all? (Just testing vftovp.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] gtamac symbols and mkiv

2009-11-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz


On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Jörg Hagmann wrote:

Thanks -- I did expect something of the kind. I need just Fleuron  
and Crown; could you give me a hint as to where I should look for  
an example -- a macro doing the same thing, something that could get  
me going?


Cheers, Jörg


The easies way would be:

\define\Fleuron%
  {\getglyph{name:hoeflertextornaments}{\char61522}}

If you want to know the numbers of the different ornaments: open the  
file hoeflertextornaments.tma, which will be in your luatex-cache,  
under fonts/otf. There's a section unicodes where you'll find all  
the names and the corrresponding values. (There's probably a more  
elegant way of achieving this, but that's what I used.)


If you want more than just a few glyphs, you can also define a  
symbolset from Hoefler Ornaments, see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Symbols


Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:54, Hans Hagen wrote:

 This is definitely true (there is also Termes Math planned, I guess),
 but then it would be nice to support px properly as well. I'm ready to
 fix the vectors, but I need to figure out what's in those virtual
 fonts first. (I'll try to test the vftothatweirdformat unless mkiv can
 return me something more readable :)


 just: \font\test=filename.tfm  \test

 \dorecurse{255}{\recurselevel: \char\recurselevel\par}

With \font\test=txmi.tfm \test I get just empty pages and .vf doesn't
work at all.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.11.2009 um 17:02 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:54, Hans Hagen wrote:
 
 This is definitely true (there is also Termes Math planned, I guess),
 but then it would be nice to support px properly as well. I'm ready to
 fix the vectors, but I need to figure out what's in those virtual
 fonts first. (I'll try to test the vftothatweirdformat unless mkiv can
 return me something more readable :)
 
 just: \font\test=filename.tfm  \test
 
 \dorecurse{255}{\recurselevel: \char\recurselevel\par}
 
 With \font\test=txmi.tfm \test I get just empty pages and .vf doesn't
 work at all.

Load the map file: \loadmapfile[original-youngryu-tx.map]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Hans Hagen

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:21, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

Since now there are opentype math fonts that compatible with times and
palatino (xits and asana), can we use them as defaults in mkiv. That will
make things much simpler.


This is definitely true (there is also Termes Math planned, I guess),
but then it would be nice to support px properly as well. I'm ready to
fix the vectors, but I need to figure out what's in those virtual
fonts first. (I'll try to test the vftothatweirdformat unless mkiv can


hey, it's a brilliant and beautiful hack, not weird


return me something more readable :)


depends .. eventually termes and palladio will have matching math and 
px/tx are close to that so we'd better have extra typeface defs then



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[NTG-context] definelayout and setuplayout not possible in current beta?

2009-11-11 Thread Andreas Schneider
Hi,

as it seems, setuplayout fails with a predefined layout in both MkIV and 
MkII. The attached example produces the following error:

! Missing number, treated as zero.  
 
to be read again  
 
   f
 
\@@lyindexheight -f
 
it  
 
argument ...upheight \layoutparameter \c!height
  \relax \ifdim 
\bottomspace...
\secondoftwoarguments #1#2-#2

\dorecalculatelayout ...pspace \relax \else \fi }}
  \else \global 
\makeupheigh...
\dosetuplayout ...#1}}}\fi \fi \recalculatelayout
  \checkcurrentlayout 
\prese...
...
l.9   \completecontent

Best regards,
Andreas.\definelayout[index][
  header=0cm,
  footer=0cm,
  height=fit
]

\starttext
  \setuplayout[index]
  \completecontent
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] definelayout and setuplayout not possible in current beta?

2009-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.11.2009 um 17:29 schrieb Andreas Schneider:

 Hi,
 
 as it seems, setuplayout fails with a predefined layout in both MkIV and 
 MkII. The attached example produces the following error:

\definelayout[index][
  header=0cm,
  footer=0cm,
  height=fit,
]

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 Am 11.11.2009 um 17:02 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
 On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 16:54, Hans Hagen wrote:

 just: \font\test=filename.tfm  \test

 \dorecurse{255}{\recurselevel: \char\recurselevel\par}

 With \font\test=txmi.tfm \test I get just empty pages and .vf doesn't
 work at all.

 Load the map file: \loadmapfile[original-youngryu-tx.map]

Does that work for you (it doesn't here, but as I said ... I have very
bad karma).
txmi is not in that map file since txmi.vf is used instead.

But at least the vf file is almost-readable.

(MAPFONT D 0
   (FONTNAME rtxmi)
(MAPFONT D 1
   (FONTNAME rtxptmri)

% this is probably character number 136 in octal basis
% and the glyph comes from font 0 (rtxmi)
(CHARACTER O 136
   (CHARWD R 0.964)
   (CHARHT R 0.342)
   (MAP
  (SELECTFONT D 0)
  (SETCHAR O 136)
  )
   )

% this seems to be letter a comming from font 1 (rtxptmri)
(CHARACTER C a
   (CHARWD R 0.5)
   (CHARHT R 0.442)
   (CHARDP R 0.0075)
   (MAP
  (SELECTFONT D 1)
  (SETCHAR C a)
  )
   )


On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 17:13, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 This is definitely true (there is also Termes Math planned, I guess),
 but then it would be nice to support px properly as well. I'm ready to
 fix the vectors, but I need to figure out what's in those virtual
 fonts first. (I'll try to test the vftothatweirdformat unless mkiv can

 hey, it's a brilliant and beautiful hack, not weird

What are we talking about? Do you mean the old virtual fonts (.vf
files) or mkiv's virtual fonts or something completely different?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Hello,

\definereferenceformat[fig][left=(, right=), text=figure]

don`t produce any output of text (in this case figure) when i reference to 
it. Is this a known bug in mkiv or do i something wrong?

best regards
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[NTG-context] Wiki pages for Scite and Notepad++

2009-11-11 Thread richard . stephens

Dear All,

I have recently added two new pages
to the Wiki, one for Scite (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Scite
) and one for Notepad++ (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Notepad%2B%2B)

I have used words plagiarised from release notes and the
mailing list, plus some of my own experiences of trying to get them to
work.

It would be good if someone knowledgeable
could review what I've put and straighten out any inaccuracies.

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Re: [NTG-context] Wiki pages for Scite and Notepad++

2009-11-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 5:46 PM,  richard.steph...@converteam.com wrote:

 Dear All,

 I have recently added two new pages to the Wiki, one for Scite
 (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Scite )
Oh
 thank you !

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Re: [NTG-context] definelayout and setuplayout not possible in current beta?

2009-11-11 Thread Andreas Schneider
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 11.11.2009 um 17:29 schrieb Andreas Schneider:
 
 Hi,
 
 as it seems, setuplayout fails with a predefined layout in both MkIV and
 MkII. The attached example produces the following error:
 
 \definelayout[index][
   header=0cm,
   footer=0cm,
   height=fit,
 ]
 
 Wolfgang

Awesome, works like I hoped it would :)
Thank you!

Best regards,
Andreas.

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.11.2009 um 17:37 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 Load the map file: \loadmapfile[original-youngryu-tx.map]
 
 Does that work for you (it doesn't here, but as I said ... I have very bad 
 karma).
 txmi is not in that map file since txmi.vf is used instead.


Then use a font which is in the map file and has also a font with the same name.

\loadmapfile[original-youngryu-tx.map]

%\font\test=txmia.tfm
\font\test=rtxmi.tfm

\dorecurse{255}{\recurselevel: {\test\char\recurselevel}\par}

\bye

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] definereferenceformat problem...

2009-11-11 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Hello,

\definereferenceformat[fig][left=(, right=), label=reffigure, text={figure}]

produces no output of text (in this case figure) when i do \fig[something]. 
Is this a bug in mkiv? I use luatex 0.44

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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/11/11 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com:
 Usage: vftovp [OPTION]... VFNAME[.vf] [TFMNAME[.tfm] [VPLFILE[.vpl]]]

Indeed. See texmf-dist/doc/generic/knuth/etc/vftovp.pdf :-)

Best
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[NTG-context] reducing the space after the enumeration heading

2009-11-11 Thread Curiouslearn
Hello All,

I have defined the following enumeration:
\defineenumeration
[Problem]
[location=top,
text=Problem,
between=\blank,
before=\blank,
after=\blank]

Now for one of  the problems, I want the heading Problem 13 to appear not
on the top, but on the left. So before this particular problem I entered

\setupenumerations[Problem][location=left,stopper=:]
\Problem (From book XYZ)

The issue is that there is a big space between words Problem 13: and
(From book XYZ). How can I reduce this space so that it is equal to the
standard spacing?

Thank you.
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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Hi,

This snippet from Wolfgang proves that txmia.tfm does contain upright 
greek letters!


What can I hack to obtain them? Maybe modify original-youngryu-tx.map?

Regards,
Vyatcheslav

\loadmapfile[original-youngryu-tx.map]

\font\test=txmia.tfm

\dorecurse{255}{\recurselevel: {\test\char\recurselevel}\par}

\bye



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Re: [NTG-context] Math setup with Times (Termes)

2009-11-11 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Oh, sorry about my previous post with font test snippet.

Instead, I have a problem with upright Latin letters: I need them to be 
italicized.


Vyatcheslav


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[NTG-context] Define tex macro on the context command line

2009-11-11 Thread John Devereux
Hi,

Is it possible to define a tex macro on the context command line (MkII)?

For example:

  texexec manual.tex --define Title X99 Operators Manual

so that 

  \Title

would expand to the appropriate text?

(I know about modes I think)

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John Devereux
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