Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Two remarks:

1.) Thomas, can you please send me the patch (I can write it myself,
but I will not be 100% to get it right). It seems that we need to
modify that in several different places (mtx-something.lua, setuptex
and first-setup.sh).

2.) The error is not related to minimals/wrong architecture. There may
be several reasons. Different shell? Missing mkiv formats? (Can you
try "luatools --generate"? It could be that mtxrun doesn't find
ctxtools.) Something third?

Does compiling a simple document work?

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Bogus columns with footnotes

2010-02-01 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi all,

can anyone confirm a bogus column output with the following test document?

\setupnote[footnote][location=lastcolumn]
\starttext 
\startcolumns
  \dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}\footnote{\input tufte}
  \dorecurse{2}{\input knuth}
\stopcolumns
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] Block quotes with multiple paragraphs

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-2-2010 15:55, Tom wrote:

I am away from home and don't have my reference books handy, so need to as a
simple question:

When block quotes include multiple paragraphs are these paragraphs separate
by \medskip or \smallskip?


normally by the set whitespace, try

\setupwhitespace[medium]

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-2-2010 21:47, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote:


thanks for your info, so I have the opinion that the git is much faster
and if contextgarden has one, is it possible to add a git for the
minimals there or who does one have to ask for it.


mojca as she's in charge of the minimals

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:36:27 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 1-2-2010 21:02, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote:
>> Hi Hans, hi list,
>>
>> some questions for the minimals, used the texlive version up to now and
>> then found out that the 2k9 version of texlive has problems using
>> context mkii and mkiv.
>>
>> so now I will start to use context from the minimals. so would be nice
>> to have some infos before starting. Is the howto in the
>> contextgarden-wiki still up to date or something needed to be changed
>> in there? Is the repository for the minimals only available via rsync
>> or as git too? And if there is no git version available is it planed to
>> get a git repo, or can one simply add one, as I would write an ebuild
>> for funtoo afterwards it would be easier for me to sync it that way,
>> because it is faster and only updates changes, compared to rsync.
> 
> rsync also updates only changes
> 
>> If wished I could first make my github-account available for a git
>> repo.
> 
> on the garden there is s git repository for sources (current and beta)
> but not for the minimals
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
Hi Hans,

thanks for your info, so I have the opinion that the git is much faster 
and if contextgarden has one, is it possible to add a git for the 
minimals there or who does one have to ask for it.

Thanks for the fast reply

Martin

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Re: [NTG-context] context minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-2-2010 21:02, Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz wrote:

Hi Hans, hi list,

some questions for the minimals, used the texlive version up to now and
then found out that the 2k9 version of texlive has problems using context
mkii and mkiv.

so now I will start to use context from the minimals. so would be nice to
have some infos before starting. Is the howto in the contextgarden-wiki
still up to date or something needed to be changed in there?
Is the repository for the minimals only available via rsync or as git
too? And if there is no git version available is it planed to get a git
repo, or can one simply add one, as I would write an ebuild for funtoo
afterwards it would be easier for me to sync it that way, because it is
faster and only updates changes, compared to rsync.


rsync also updates only changes


If wished I could first make my github-account available for a git repo.


on the garden there is s git repository for sources (current and beta) 
but not for the minimals


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[NTG-context] context minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz
Hi Hans, hi list,

some questions for the minimals, used the texlive version up to now and 
then found out that the 2k9 version of texlive has problems using context 
mkii and mkiv.

so now I will start to use context from the minimals. so would be nice to 
have some infos before starting. Is the howto in the contextgarden-wiki 
still up to date or something needed to be changed in there?
Is the repository for the minimals only available via rsync or as git 
too? And if there is no git version available is it planed to get a git 
repo, or can one simply add one, as I would write an ebuild for funtoo 
afterwards it would be easier for me to sync it that way, because it is 
faster and only updates changes, compared to rsync.

If wished I could first make my github-account available for a git repo.

Greetings

Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz

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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-2-2010 16:41, Roger Mason wrote:

Roger Mason  writes:



Thanks. It is downloading now.  I'll let you know how it turns out.



MKII  works:

texexec --mode=manuscript --result=Manuscript.pdf --purge TheFourCs.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2010.02.01 11:19 MKII  fmt: 2010.2.1  int: english/english
.

The document is made correctly, but the texexec run ends with:

TeXExec | renaming TheFourCs to Manuscript
TeXExec | restoring TheFourCs
sh: CtxTools: command not found
sh: version: command not found


this is a strange error (--purge triggers it)

looks like the banner is executed or so

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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Roger Mason
Roger Mason  writes:

>
> Thanks. It is downloading now.  I'll let you know how it turns out.
>

MKII  works:

texexec --mode=manuscript --result=Manuscript.pdf --purge TheFourCs.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2010.02.01 11:19 MKII  fmt: 2010.2.1  int: english/english


The document is made correctly, but the texexec run ends with:

TeXExec | renaming TheFourCs to Manuscript
TeXExec | restoring TheFourCs
sh: CtxTools: command not found
sh: version: command not found
sh: line 2: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 2: --bbeditinterface: command not found
sh: line 3: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 3: --brandfiles: command not found
sh: line 4: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 4: --contextversion: command not found
sh: line 5: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 5: --dependencies: command not found
sh: line 5: filenames]]: command not found
sh: line 6: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 6: --disarmutfbom: command not found
sh: line 7: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 7: --documentation: command not found
sh: line 8: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 8: --dpxmapfiles: command not found
sh: line 9: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 9: --jeditinterface: command not found
sh: line 10: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 10: --listentities: command not found
sh: line 11: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 11: --patternfiles: command not found
sh: line 12: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 12: --platformize: command not found
sh: line 13: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 13: --purgefiles: command not found
sh: line 14: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 14: --rawinterface: command not found
sh: line 15: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 15: --sciteinterface: command not found
sh: line 16: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 16: --touchcontextfile: command not found
sh: line 17: CtxTools: command not found
sh: line 17: --updatecontext: command not found
sh: line 18: --purge: command not found

I doubt this has anything to do with 32 vs 64 bit binaries, however, as
I see the same message on a X86_64 machine at home and that one is all
64 bit.

Thanks,
Roger
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Roger Mason
Mojca Miklavec  writes:

> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 15:43, Roger Mason wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just tried to install the minimals on:
>>
>> uname -a
>> Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010
>> ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux
>>
>
> Oh, it's nice to hear that Apple is not the only game spoiler :) :) :)
>
> So: 32-bit binaries are working on 64-bit machine, but 64-bit binaries
> would fit better if they existed?

Dunno.  I _think_ I need the 32 bit binaries: everything else on
the machine was (or should have been) built as 32 bit even though the
kernel is 64 bit.

The linux-ppc binaries are downloading now, I'll let you know what
happens.

Cheers,
Roger
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Roger Mason
hello Thomas,

"Thomas A. Schmitz"  writes:

> On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Roger Mason wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I just tried to install the minimals on:
>> 
>> uname -a
>> Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010
>> ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux
>
> Oops, I thought we had fixed that... Anyways: the easiest solution is to open 
> first-setup.sh in an editor. line 28 has
>
>   ppc) platform="linux-ppc" ;;
>
> you can either change that to 
>
>   ppc64) platform="linux-ppc" ;;
>
> or add such a new line after it. The minimals should work on your system 
> (they do work on my ppc64 box). 

Thanks. It is downloading now.  I'll let you know how it turns out.

Cheers,
Roger
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Re: [NTG-context] Context and Windows7

2010-02-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:51, Keith McKay wrote:
> Should I download the
> minimals and look into an editor other than Scite, which I never felt
> totally comfortable with anyway.

There is also TeXworks (--goodies=texworks) in command line. Scite is
almost ready to be used the same way. Hans sent me a file for scite
support, but I'm not sure yet where to put the binaries and all the
special setting files (without testing on windows).

Mojca

(But I have no time to fix anything today.)
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 15:43, Roger Mason wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just tried to install the minimals on:
>
> uname -a
> Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010
> ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux
>
> but got:
>
> sh ./first-setup.sh
> Error: your system "Linux ppc64" is not supported yet.
> Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
>
> The machine reports as ppc64 but it is running a 64 bit kernel with 32
> bit userland.
>
> I'd like to know how to proceed.  If necessary I am quite willing to
> build the minimals on this platform and contribute the binaries back to
> the wiki.

Oh, it's nice to hear that Apple is not the only game spoiler :) :) :)

So: 32-bit binaries are working on 64-bit machine, but 64-bit binaries
would fit better if they existed?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Feb 1, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Roger Mason wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I just tried to install the minimals on:
> 
> uname -a
> Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010
> ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux
> 
> but got:
> 
> sh ./first-setup.sh
> Error: your system "Linux ppc64" is not supported yet.
> Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)
> 
> The machine reports as ppc64 but it is running a 64 bit kernel with 32
> bit userland.
> 
> I'd like to know how to proceed.  If necessary I am quite willing to
> build the minimals on this platform and contribute the binaries back to
> the wiki.
> 
> Cheers,
> Roger

Oops, I thought we had fixed that... Anyways: the easiest solution is to open 
first-setup.sh in an editor. line 28 has

  ppc) platform="linux-ppc" ;;

you can either change that to 

  ppc64) platform="linux-ppc" ;;

or add such a new line after it. The minimals should work on your system (they 
do work on my ppc64 box). 

Good luck

Thomas
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[NTG-context] Block quotes with multiple paragraphs

2010-02-01 Thread Tom
I am away from home and don't have my reference books handy, so need to as a
simple question:
 
When block quotes include multiple paragraphs are these paragraphs separate
by \medskip or \smallskip?
 
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[NTG-context] Linux PPC64 & minimals

2010-02-01 Thread Roger Mason
Hello,

I just tried to install the minimals on:

uname -a
Linux perthite 2.6.30-gentoo-r5 #6 SMP Wed Jan 13 17:59:36 NST 2010
ppc64 PPC970FX, altivec supported PowerMac7,3 GNU/Linux

but got:

sh ./first-setup.sh
Error: your system "Linux ppc64" is not supported yet.
Please report to the ConTeXt mailing-list (ntg-context@ntg.nl)

The machine reports as ppc64 but it is running a 64 bit kernel with 32
bit userland.

I'd like to know how to proceed.  If necessary I am quite willing to
build the minimals on this platform and contribute the binaries back to
the wiki.

Cheers,
Roger
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Re: [NTG-context] Context and Windows7

2010-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1-2-2010 12:51, Keith McKay wrote:

I want to install ConText on my Windows7 computer.  I thought that it
would be a good idea if I checked the mailing list archive first, to see
if there had been any problems with Windows7. I didn't find any messages
related to Windows7, but I don't know if this is a good or bad thing.
There is 1 page on the wiki regarding a problem with the complete
configuration of Context in Windows7 and Scite which a user has.

I was going to go ahead and download the mswin zip file from the pragma
web site, but, the zip file just seems to exist there now as the
minimals distribution, rather than the 'big' distribution I had on my
old computer (which has gone to that great scrap heap in the sky due to
a catastrophic failure).

So, I'm looking for advice before I go any further. Should I download
the minimals and look into an editor other than Scite, which I never
felt totally comfortable with anyway. Should I just go straight to
luatex and MKIV? Are there other options available?


just install the minimals from contextgarden.net

i run vista myself and it works ok; i tested it with seven beta in a 
virtual machine a while ago (no seven here now) and there were no problems


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[NTG-context] Context and Windows7

2010-02-01 Thread Keith McKay
I want to install ConText on my Windows7 computer.  I thought that it 
would be a good idea if I checked the mailing list archive first, to see 
if there had been any problems with Windows7.  I didn't find any 
messages related to Windows7, but I don't know if this is a good or bad 
thing.  There is 1 page on the wiki regarding a problem with the 
complete configuration of Context in Windows7 and Scite which a user has.


I was going to go ahead and download the mswin zip file from the pragma 
web site, but, the zip file just seems to exist there now as the 
minimals distribution, rather than the 'big' distribution I had on my 
old computer (which has gone to that great scrap heap in the sky due to 
a catastrophic failure).


So, I'm looking for advice before I go any further. Should I download 
the minimals and look into an editor other than Scite, which I never 
felt totally comfortable with anyway.  Should I just go straight to 
luatex and MKIV? Are there other options available?


Best Wishes

Keith
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Re: [NTG-context] Block quotes with multiple paragraphs

2010-02-01 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 31.01.10 17:15, schrieb Tom Benjey:

I am away from home and don’t have my reference books handy, so need to
as a simple question:

When block quotes include multiple paragraphs are these paragraphs
separate by \medskip or \smallskip?


Depends on the surrounding text, when you use indenting for the main
text i would also use indenting for the quoted text. To let the quoted
text stand out you can indent all paragraphs with

...

\startblockquote
...

...
\stopblockquote

..

or you insert empty lines before and after the quoted text

\setupdelimitedtext
  []
  [spacebefore=line,
   spaceafter=line]

etc.

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