Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor

2010-02-08 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 22:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 07.02.10 07:24, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: while \color can only be used as \color[rgb]{...}. No. Both \color[rgb]{...} and {\color[rgb]...} are valid D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder if this had been always

Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7-2-2010 22:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 07.02.10 07:24, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: while \color can only be used as \color[rgb]{...}. No. Both \color[rgb]{...} and {\color[rgb]...} are valid D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder if this had been always the case

Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 09:19, schrieb Mojca Miklavec: D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder if this had been always the case because the manuals (and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}. \colored is a rather recent command. I meant the manuals and wiki mention

Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 09:40, schrieb Hans Hagen: D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder if this had been always the case because the manuals {and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}. all commands that use \groupedcommand have that property But used \color always

[NTG-context] some math symbols not working

2010-02-08 Thread Warrence
Hi, I was trying some math symbols and stumbled over the following commands, that do not work in my context documents (the comments say what's not working exactly). The pasted document works at http://live.contextgarden.net/ . I'm using the latest context-minimals as provided on the website.

Re: [NTG-context] blanks with glue in mkiv

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 02:10, schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Blanks with glue do not work with MkIV. The old commands to define own blank values do not work in MkIV, the old MkII commands are mapped to the new ones but MkII and MkIV expect different settings for them. The old \defineblank command is

[NTG-context] very strange error with \xypos and vim-typing

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
Hello, I get the following error: ! Missing number, treated as zero. to be read again \dontleavehmode argument \dontleavehmode \normalspace \secondoftwoarguments #1#2-#2 l.1 \the\dimexpr

[NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang ___ If

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? I once tried to list the different

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Sebastien Mengin wrote: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). I don't

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 08.02.2010 um 12:43 schrieb Sebastien Mengin: Le 08 févr. 2010 à 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? The lst-listing package from LaTeX is very good. I would

[NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
Hello, I don't know, if this is a ConTeXt problem (wrong PDF) or an xpdf problem. Here the test-file, whose pdf-result xpdf cannot read: \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[chapter] \starttext \chapter{bla} \stoptext Should I report this to the xpdf-authors? Cheers, Peter --

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is finally not trivial at all (at least for me). Do you

Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault

2010-02-08 Thread Mikael Persson
That example works fine here (both with mkii and mkiv, running ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2010.2.8 int: english/english) and xpdf 3.02-1.4ubuntu2. Can you attach the pdf you get? I attach the one I get from mkiv. Mikael On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Peter Münster

Re: [NTG-context] colors without \definecolor

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 9:55, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 08.02.10 09:40, schrieb Hans Hagen: D’oh. I looked in the source and missed this but I wonder if this had been always the case because the manuals {and the wiki) mention only \color[name]{...}. all commands that use \groupedcommand have that

[NTG-context] level setting has no effect in TOC

2010-02-08 Thread zs
Hello, it seems like the level parameter has no effect in mkiv. It works as expected in mkii. Is it a bug or there is different way how to do that in mkiv? Ragards Zdenek example: \starttext \setupcombinedlist[content][level=1,alternative=c] \completecontent \chapter{A} \section{a}

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Sebastien Mengin
Le 08 févr. 2010 à 01:14, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit: Am 08.02.10 12:43, schrieb Sebastien Mengin: I once tried to list the different points missing regarding the french language support and think of a way to integrate them as a module for ConTeXt, as frenchb [1] does for LaTeX. This is

Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Mikael Persson wrote: That example works fine here (both with mkii and mkiv, running ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2010.2.8 int: english/english) and xpdf 3.02-1.4ubuntu2. Hello Mikael, It seems, that it was an issue with the poppler library. I used

Re: [NTG-context] xpdf segmentation fault

2010-02-08 Thread luigi scarso
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Peter Münster pmli...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I don't know, if this is a ConTeXt problem (wrong PDF) or an xpdf problem. Here the test-file, whose pdf-result xpdf cannot read: \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[chapter] \starttext \chapter{bla}

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Monday 08 February 2010 12:25:58 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Hello, I have been

[NTG-context] Adding Items to Bibliography

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hi all, yesterday I tried to use some BibTeX bibliography that I made earlier for use with biblatex but I very soon ended up converting a garbled .bbl to proper \[start|stop]publication format. So my first question is, whether this, without BibTeX, is the canonical way to typeset bibliographies

[NTG-context] svg - png conversion

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
Hello, How can I convert svg to png on the fly? I've created a file test.rlx: ?xml version='1.0 standalone='yes'? rl:manipulators rl:manipulator name='png' suffix='svg' rl:oldrl:value name='path'//rl:value name='file' method='nosuffix'/.png/rl:old rl:newrl:value

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately: all the details of

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 08.02.2010 um 14:49 schrieb Philipp Gesang: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Most definately:

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 14:49, Philipp Gesang wrote: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-0812:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system?

Re: [NTG-context] floatrow

2010-02-08 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
Hi Bernhard, Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem, but not sure... there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i think) one thing: placing more than one picture in a

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Oliver Heins
Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de writes: Hello Wolfgang! On 2010-02-08 12:25:58, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly logically place (and connect) containers of any sort. I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0). This could be made easier. The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a

Re: [NTG-context] floatrow

2010-02-08 Thread Bernhard Rosensteiner
Am 08.02.2010 um 17:47 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Hi Bernhard, Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem, but not sure... there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you can do with ConTeXt much more easily expect (i

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread John Haltiwanger
I'd just like to chime in that a new bibliography system would be first suggestion for ConTeXt. I've only used BibTeX a few times, and never BibLaTeX (because I'd already switched to ConTeXT), but it's inflexibility makes it unworkable. Ideally ConTeXt could provide its general sensible-ness (and

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread David Rogers
* Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com [2010-02-08 12:25]: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Five hundred pages of

Re: [NTG-context] floatrow

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 18:01, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 17:47 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Hi Bernhard, Did you ever try \startcombination? I feel like it could solve your problem, but not sure... there is a nice LaTeX package called floatrow. Most of the things what it does you

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 18:29, David Rogers wrote: |Original Language|First Translation|Second Translation| |Bla bla bla ... |Blu blu blu ... |Ble ble ble ... | it's one of the things on the agenda for mkiv but it has to wait for a while till we have opened up the page builder a bit more in luatex

Re: [NTG-context] very strange error with \xypos and vim-typing

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 08 2010, Peter Münster wrote: Strange, because whenever I remove a line of this test-file, the error disappears. Could someone help please? Hello, One further hint, the tuc-file has one more line, when there is no error: @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@ jobvariables = jobvariables or { }

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-08 16:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 - access to entries in arbitrary ways using path

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 22:14, schrieb Philipp Gesang: On 2010-02-0816:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases in memory and converte them in an xml tree 3 -

Re: [NTG-context] level setting has no effect in TOC

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 13:50, zs wrote: Hello, it seems like the level parameter has no effect in mkiv. It works as expected in mkii. Is it a bug or there is different way how to do that in mkiv? Ragards Zdenek example: \starttext \setupcombinedlist[content][level=1,alternative=c] \completecontent

Re: [NTG-context] floatrow

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 22:16, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: Am 08.02.2010 um 19:42 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 8-2-2010 18:52, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: thanks for the hint with \defineexternalfigure… - indeed useful. The „automatic“ feature of floatrow is nice but not so important that i will ever

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-08 22:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3. http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100126.184359.e6567256.en.html Ahh,

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.02.10 23:08, schrieb Philipp Gesang: But thank you anyways, I now have an impression about how things may look like in the future and I promise to read http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML#XML.2FConTeXt_in_general next weekend. For MkIV read this: http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-43.htm

Re: [NTG-context] svg - png conversion

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 14:40, Peter Münster wrote: Hello, \setupexternalfigures[conversion=png] \starttext \externalfigure[./myfile.svg] \stoptext i need to think a bit about it we do have a automatic svg - pdf converter so what we need is some way to force a specific kind of conversion (i need to

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Hans Hagen
On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no. 3.

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread John Haltiwanger
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: On 2010-02-08 16:12:09, Hans Hagen wrote: fyi: the whole bin stuff will be redone in mkiv. some of it is already done. 1 - mkii compatible support (built in, no module) 2 - loading of bib databases

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-02-08 23:20:17, Hans Hagen wrote: On 8-2-2010 23:08, Philipp Gesang wrote: On 2010-02-0822:26:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Great news, indeed! Is some of this already usable / accessable by way of functions in minimals? I can't wait to have a glance at those features, especially no.

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Curiouslearn
Nice thread. Thanks for starting this Wolfgang. First of all, Context is great and I love it. I think I miss the geometry package of the latex. It makes setting margins very easy. I think setting margins (left, right, top and bottom) could be easier in Context. I am glad that tikz has started

Re: [NTG-context] What do you miss in ConTeXt?

2010-02-08 Thread Otared Kavian
On 8 févr. 2010, at 12:25, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, ConTeXt has many features but sometimes there is something missing, what feature or package do you miss which is already available in another TeX system or unavailable in any TeX system? Wolfgang Hi Wolfgang and all