Re: [NTG-context] Suggestions on fonts and foundries
Am 2010-03-01 um 04:54 schrieb Tom: Some time back I recall seeing a message in which someone discussed using fonts available from foundries and recommended certain ones. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find that message. I will probably need one serif font for the text of the book, a plain sans serif font to use for entries in a table, a fancier sans serif font for chapter titles and, possibly a different not-too-plain sans serif font for page headers. Also, I can't figure out how to tell ConTeXt which font to use for page headers. I guess you know http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts ? Without knowing the subject and/or intended audience of your book I can't suggest suitable fonts. Generally I find Palatino (TeX Gyre Pagella) with Frutiger (in a pinch: MS Calibri) a very good combination, even if rather conservative. SIL Gentium is also a very nice body font, if you like a soft, human touch. Linotype Finnegan is a matching sans-serif; perhaps try Libertine Biolinum, if you want a free one. For more technically looking sans's I like LM Sans and URW Grotesk (especially in small sizes). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On 1-3-2010 17:26, Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi, I got some time today and checked some symbols of hlcra.tfm (LucidaNewMath-Arrows), and got this table: so that table replaces lbr-ma in math-vfu? mojca/aditya: can you check this and send me an updated/patch for math-vfu? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bookmarks point to page, not to section start
On 26-2-2010 14:09, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
The behaviour seems to be the same in both MKII and MKIV (MKII only
doesn't respect the accented characters; but I understand the pain of
recoding).
technically mkii should be able to to the right accents when you enable
unicode pdf output but by default it's doing pdfdoc which is somewhat
limited; chinese can have chinese bookmarks even in mkii but why bother
about mkii and unicode ...
I'm using the following code to place the bookmarks:
\setupinteraction
[state=start]
\setupinteractionscreen
[option=bookmark]
\placebookmarks
[section,subsection,subsubsection]
[section,subsection]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{\section{title} \input tufte}
\stoptext
ok, here's a little secret
\setupinteraction
[focus=width]
don't tell anybody as i consider it useless (in dviwindo the cursor
positioned itself, not so in acrobat)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Margin terminology -- badly documented, undocumented, or misdocumented
On 25-2-2010 21:17, James Fisher wrote: Hi Hans, Thanks for the reply -- and sorry for the rather grumpy way in which I posed the question. The problem for me was this mysterious width=middle, height=middle -- this is fairly undocumented at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout . There is a mention of width=middle, but it's just followed by some code, most of which seems to be irrelevant (if cutspace == 0pt then cutspace = backspace; end), and there is no mention of height=middle. I would be more than willing to document this myself, but what is it that width=middle actually *does*? And what does middle actually *mean* -- the middle of *what*? just the space between back- and cutspace (there's also fit, which takes edges into account as they play a role in interactive documents) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [ntg-context] ppchtex questions and maybe buglets
On 26-2-2010 15:04, Bernhard Rosensteiner wrote: ppchtex is really nice. after experimenting with it i found some buglets: Can you coordinate this with Alan? Just collect bugs and make small test files so that i can look at them in a batch. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 1-3-2010 17:26, Zhichu Chen wrote: Hi, I got some time today and checked some symbols of hlcra.tfm (LucidaNewMath-Arrows), and got this table: so that table replaces lbr-ma in math-vfu? yes. And don't forget the correction: Correction: [0x021D5] = 0x65, -- Downrightarrow It's wrong, should be: [0x021D8] = 0x65, -- Downrightarrow mojca/aditya: can you check this and send me an updated/patch for math-vfu? - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - -- Best Regards Chen Zhi-chu Chen | Shanghai Synchrotron Radiation Facility No. 2019 | Jialuo Rd. | Jiading | Shanghai | P.R. China tel: 086 21 5955 3405 | zhichu.chen.googlepages.com | www.sinap.ac.cn ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Suggestions on fonts and foundries
This site might provide a good place to ask further advice: http://typedia.com/forum/viewcategory/1/ On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.netwrote: Am 2010-03-01 um 04:54 schrieb Tom: Some time back I recall seeing a message in which someone discussed using fonts available from foundries and recommended certain ones. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find that message. I will probably need one serif font for the text of the book, a plain sans serif font to use for entries in a table, a fancier sans serif font for chapter titles and, possibly a different not-too-plain sans serif font for page headers. Also, I can't figure out how to tell ConTeXt which font to use for page headers. I guess you know http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts ? Without knowing the subject and/or intended audience of your book I can't suggest suitable fonts. Generally I find Palatino (TeX Gyre Pagella) with Frutiger (in a pinch: MS Calibri) a very good combination, even if rather conservative. SIL Gentium is also a very nice body font, if you like a soft, human touch. Linotype Finnegan is a matching sans-serif; perhaps try Libertine Biolinum, if you want a free one. For more technically looking sans's I like LM Sans and URW Grotesk (especially in small sizes). Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On 2-3-2010 12:25, Zhichu Chen wrote: 0x021D8] = 0x65, -- Downrightarrow ok, i'll make a beta with that vector - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
Mojca/aditya: can you check this and send me an updated/patch for math-vfu? What's pretty important is to fill the char-def.lua as well (maybe together with some additional comments that the glyph names come from the LaTeX package from Lucida, just that we'll know where the names come from next time when we see some clashes). Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now. A very nice check would be for every slot in lbr-ma - print out unicode point - print out unicode description - print out mathname and mathclass - draw the glyph - draw the same glyph from cambria for comparison (I need to learn how to do that though, but it would be a nice homework.) Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On 2-3-2010 14:49, Mojca Miklavec wrote: What's pretty important is to fill the char-def.lua as well (maybe together with some additional comments that the glyph names come from the LaTeX package from Lucida, just that we'll know where the names come from next time when we see some clashes). hm, but for me name compatibility with every latex math package is no objective; i'd rather that we're unicode math compiant (and i don't care too much what route latex follows) Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now. is it that bad? interesting is that lucida was one of the first fonts context supported so the transition from yandy-tug has really messed up things then A very nice check would be for every slot in lbr-ma - print out unicode point - print out unicode description - print out mathname and mathclass - draw the glyph - draw the same glyph from cambria for comparison (I need to learn how to do that though, but it would be a nice homework.) well, we can forget about symbols that are in lucida but not in unicode ... it makes no sense to add all kind of symbols that only exist in one font Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Math integral symbols (cambria) , MK-IV
Hi,
When using font Cambria, the integral symbols \iint and \iiint look funny
compared to \int.
The contour, surface and volume integrals look fine.
Version ConText version 2010.02.25 19:46.
LuaTeX version 50,0
Test file
\usetypescript[cambria]
\setupbodyfont[cambria]
\starttext
\startformula
\startalign[n=2]
\NC \text{integral} \NC \int_{a}^{b} \NR
\NC \text{double integral} \NC \iint_{a}^{b} \NR
\NC \text{triple integral} \NC \iiint_{a}^{b} \NR
\NC \text{contour integral} \NC \oint_{a}^{b} \NR
\NC \text{surface integral} \NC \oiint_{a}^{b} \NR
\NC \text{volume integral} \NC \oiiint_{a}^{b} \NR
\stopalign
\stopformula
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 15:28, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 2-3-2010 14:49, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
hm, but for me name compatibility with every latex math package is no
objective; i'd rather that we're unicode math compiant (and i don't care too
much what route latex follows)
I would not care too much about LaTeX either, but what does Unicode
compliance mean?
\symbol{DOWNWARDS ARROW LEFTWARDS OF UPWARDS ARROW}?
Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now.
is it that bad? interesting is that lucida was one of the first fonts
context supported so the transition from yandy-tug has really messed up
things then
It's not about messing things up, but about missing mathname= in
char-def.lua for all the unicode entries for special glyphs. If those
glyphs worked in MKII from the very beginning, they won't work before
one adds several entries to
But of course they should work flawlessly when they are entered as
unicode characters. They only fail to work when one enters
\zrangeantirestriction for example.
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 15:28, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 2-3-2010 14:49, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
hm, but for me name compatibility with every latex math package is no
objective; i'd rather that we're unicode math compiant (and i don't care too
much what route latex follows)
I would not care too much about LaTeX either, but what does Unicode
compliance mean?
\symbol{DOWNWARDS ARROW LEFTWARDS OF UPWARDS ARROW}?
Out of the whole vector only some 5-10% of glyphs works now.
is it that bad? interesting is that lucida was one of the first fonts
context supported so the transition from yandy-tug has really messed up
things then
It's not about messing things up, but about missing mathname= in
char-def.lua for all the unicode entries for special glyphs. If those
glyphs worked in MKII from the very beginning, they won't work before
one adds several entries to
But of course they should work flawlessly when they are entered as
unicode characters. They only fail to work when one enters
\zrangeantirestriction for example.
I'm sorry, this is just my comment from the unicode chart. I'm pretty sure
that won't work. I download the chart, compare the symbols in the tables
one by one without even knowing the meanings. Is there like a table of
macros of all symbols?
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Math in MKIV - HOWTO
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 16:41, Zhichu Chen wrote: On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: It's not about messing things up, but about missing mathname= in char-def.lua for all the unicode entries for special glyphs. If those glyphs worked in MKII from the very beginning, they won't work before one adds several entries to But of course they should work flawlessly when they are entered as unicode characters. They only fail to work when one enters \zrangeantirestriction for example. I'm sorry, this is just my comment from the unicode chart. I'm pretty sure that won't work. I download the chart, compare the symbols in the tables one by one without even knowing the meanings. Is there like a table of macros of all symbols? a) Take a look at lucidabr.sty (inside lucidabr.zip from CTAN). That's the source for names of glyphs used in LaTeX for Lucida. b) The Comprehensive LaTeX Symbol List c) \showmathcharacters in MKII d) any other font with extensive glyph repertoaire Mojca PS: F3 looks very similar to 226D, but it's not exactly that. And there are plenty of other such characters. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
The following example produces expected output with MKII (texexec) but
fails the compilation process with MKIV (context).
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
input graph;
path p;
gdata(data.d, $, augment.p($1,$2););
draw begingraph(4in,2.5in);
gdraw p;
endgraph;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\useMPgraphic{foo}
\stoptext
The data stored in data.d is as follows:
0 0
1 1
2 4
When compiling with MKIV, the following error occurs:
!mplib : mp terminal:
(/opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf/metapost/base/graph.mp
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.143 Gmargin.low=-.07;
% bbox fraction for default ra...
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.144 Gmargin.high=1.07;
% bbox fraction for default ra...
)
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
!mplib : mp terminal: [1]
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
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Re: [NTG-context] Math integral symbols (cambria) , MK-IV
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, gummybears wrote: Hi, When using font Cambria, the integral symbols \iint and \iiint look funny compared to \int. \iint and iiint are set using \repeatintegrals and it seems that for some reason they are in textsize rather than displaysize. I will have a look. Hans, we really need a fallback mechanism. Since cambria actually contains the iint and iiint glyphs, we do not need to compose the character for it. For LM etc., we need the composed character. Right now, if I add anything in fallback key in char-def.lua, it is simply ignored. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
Hi Troy,
I don't have the graph.mp file, but I have seen similar errors here. I
guess if you change the lines into
Gmargin.low:=-.07;
Gmargin.high:=1.07;
things work again. Sorry, I can't remember the reason why equations
cause trouble in mplib. But I'm quite sure that this is only an
incompatibility and not a bug.
Best wishes, Peter
Am 02.03.2010 17:34, schrieb Troy Henderson:
The following example produces expected output with MKII (texexec) but
fails the compilation process with MKIV (context).
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
input graph;
path p;
gdata(data.d, $, augment.p($1,$2););
draw begingraph(4in,2.5in);
gdraw p;
endgraph;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\useMPgraphic{foo}
\stoptext
The data stored in data.d is as follows:
0 0
1 1
2 4
When compiling with MKIV, the following error occurs:
!mplib : mp terminal:
(/opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf/metapost/base/graph.mp
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.143 Gmargin.low=-.07;
% bbox fraction for default
ra...
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.144 Gmargin.high=1.07;
% bbox fraction for default
ra...
)
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
!mplib : mp terminal: [1]
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
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Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Troy, I don't have the graph.mp file, but I have seen similar errors here. I guess if you change the lines into Gmargin.low:=-.07; Gmargin.high:=1.07; things work again. Sorry, I can't remember the reason why equations cause trouble in mplib. But I'm quite sure that this is only an incompatibility and not a bug. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MkIV_Differences#Metapost Best wishes, Taco ... but it would be cool if there was a way to start a new mplib instance for each MPfigure... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
Am 02.03.2010 19:42, schrieb Peter Rolf:
Hi Troy,
I don't have the graph.mp file, but I have seen similar errors here. I
guess if you change the lines into
Gmargin.low:=-.07;
Gmargin.high:=1.07;
things work again. Sorry, I can't remember the reason why equations
cause trouble in mplib. But I'm quite sure that this is only an
incompatibility and not a bug.
see
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20091107.123912.3010813e.en.html
for details. I will do the same :)
Best wishes, Peter
Am 02.03.2010 17:34, schrieb Troy Henderson:
The following example produces expected output with MKII (texexec) but
fails the compilation process with MKIV (context).
\startuseMPgraphic{foo}
input graph;
path p;
gdata(data.d, $, augment.p($1,$2););
draw begingraph(4in,2.5in);
gdraw p;
endgraph;
\stopuseMPgraphic
\starttext
\useMPgraphic{foo}
\stoptext
The data stored in data.d is as follows:
0 0
1 1
2 4
When compiling with MKIV, the following error occurs:
!mplib : mp terminal:
(/opt/context-minimals/tex/texmf/metapost/base/graph.mp
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.143 Gmargin.low=-.07;
% bbox fraction for default
ra...
! Redundant equation.
to be read again
;
l.144 Gmargin.high=1.07;
% bbox fraction for default
ra...
)
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
!mplib : mp terminal: [1]
!mplib : mp error: unknown, no error, terminal or log messages
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Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
When using \startMPinclusions input graph; \stopMPinclusions or not even including the MPinclusions at all (and thus not doing `input graph;') seems to give the same result. The log of what happens during the compile process is attached. Troy log Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Margin terminology -- badly documented, undocumented, or misdocumented
That makes sense. The main thing confusing me on contextgarden is: if cutspace == 0pt then cutspace = backspace end Which I would guess is meant to allow you to just specify backspace if you want symmetrical margins; but what if we want a 0pt cutspace? A minor other thing confusing me is the terminology; mainly 'cut' and 'back'. Are these ConTeXt-specific terms or are they found elsewhere? 'Back' would make more sense to me as 'binding' or 'spine', and the edge referred to as 'cut' is referred to in Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book#Book_manufacturing_in_the_modern_worldas the 'fore-edge'. James On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 25-2-2010 21:17, James Fisher wrote: Hi Hans, Thanks for the reply -- and sorry for the rather grumpy way in which I posed the question. The problem for me was this mysterious width=middle, height=middle -- this is fairly undocumented at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout . There is a mention of width=middle, but it's just followed by some code, most of which seems to be irrelevant (if cutspace == 0pt then cutspace = backspace; end), and there is no mention of height=middle. I would be more than willing to document this myself, but what is it that width=middle actually *does*? And what does middle actually *mean* -- the middle of *what*? just the space between back- and cutspace (there's also fit, which takes edges into account as they play a role in interactive documents) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] METAPOST's superellipse with superness0.5 does not give a superellipse
Thanks, Rory. In hind-sight I guess my presumptions look pretty silly. The
reason I'm making mistakes like this is that I can't find any introductory
text along the lines of 'TeX for programmers'; i.e. people coming from your
typical modern imperative languages, who will (after looking at TeX code and
concluding that it *is* a programming language) expect things like
variables, flow control, classes, and the kind of and syntax of library
documentation that comes with these languages. Perhaps the texts I've seen
should have included some content taken from function vs.
macrohttp://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=ensource=hpq=macro%20vs%20functionmeta=aq=foq=discussions
elsewhere.
Best
James
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Rory Molinari quo...@gmail.com wrote:
For 2: I think Metafont makes more sense if you don't think of a macro
as a function that does some work in its own context and returns a
value, but as something that expands textually in place. So there
isn't any concept of return as there aren't separate stack frames to
return from or to.
So you could try something like this (completely untested, and I am a
Metafont beginner. This is from memory, so check the book for the
right syntax, especially for the semicolons.)
def myPath(args) =
begingroup
save tr, tl, bl, br;
pair tr, tl, bl, br;
some equations involving tr, tl, bl, br, and the args;
a path expression;
endgroup;
enddef;
path aPath;
aPath := myPath(args);
fill aPath;
The construction
begingroup
statements;
expression;
endgroup;
lets you do some work in statements, and then give an expression.
The value of the group is the value of the expression. The value
isn't really returned; it just appears wherever a call to myPath
appears. Then the assignment to aPath is expanded by the interpreter
as
aPath := begingroup etc endgroup;
Cheers,
Rory
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:57 AM, James Fisher jameshfis...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've come up with a crude function that's doing more like what I want. I
have two problems with it:
1. The most important: I need to differentiate the equations that
generate a
superellipse, in order to find the tangent at the defined vertices. I
have
failed to do this and so use a crude arbitrary power function.
2. Less important: what is the equivalent in METAFONT of the 'return'
keyword? I just want superellipse() to return the shape, rather than
draw
it.
James
def superellipse(expr r,t,l,b,s)=
pair tr, tl, bl, br;
tr = (s[xpart t,xpart r],s[ypart r,ypart t]);
tl = (s[xpart t,xpart l],s[ypart l,ypart t]);
bl = (s[xpart b,xpart l],s[ypart l,ypart b]);
br = (s[xpart b,xpart r],s[ypart r,ypart b]);
numeric theta;
if s 0.5:
% Behave as in the normal superellipse function
theta = 0;
else:
% This is a crude mockup of the kind of function that is required
% to generate shapes with s0.5 (apparently called astroids).
% This satisfies:
%
% s = 0.5, theta = 0.5
% s = 0,theta = 90
%
% But to find the actual function,
% we need to differentiate, at an endpoint,
% the equation that would produce one quadrant of the shape.
theta = 90 - (s*s*s*7.11378661);
fi
fill r{dir(90+theta)} ... tr{t-r} ... {dir(180-theta)}t
t{dir(180+theta)} ... tl{l-t} ... {dir(270-theta)}l
l{dir(270+theta)} ... bl{b-l} ... {dir(-theta)}b
b{dir(theta)} ... br{r-b} ... {dir(90-theta)}r
cycle;
enddef;
beginfig(0);
superellipse(
( 100, 50 ),
( 50, 100 ),
( 0, 50 ),
( 50, 0 ),
0.6
);
endfig;
end;
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Rory Molinari quo...@gmail.com wrote:
James's explanation appears to be right.
On p 126 of the METAFONTbook Knuth says that the superness should be
between 0.5 (when you get a diamond) and 1.0 (when you get a square).
Exercise 14.6 asks the reader to Try superellimpse with superness
values less than 0.5 or greater than 1.0; explain why you get weird
shapes in such cases. The answer is There are inflection points,
because there are no bounding triangles for the '...' operations in
the superellipse macro ... unless 0.5 \leq s \leq 1.
Cheers,
Rory
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, James Fisher jameshfis...@gmail.com
wrote:
I should say that the vertices of the superellipse are calculated
correctly. The problem, it seems, is that for the vertices at right,
top,
left, and bottom, the angles of entry and exit need to be explicitly
defined, rather than just relying on the '...' which coincidentally
works
for s=0.5.
I should say at this point that I am no maths whiz. But, sticking
with
the
'right ... topright ... top' line, the angle calculation needs to
satisfy,
for the exit angle of the first vertex:
For s=0, angle = 180 degrees (vector to
Re: [NTG-context] Margin terminology -- badly documented, undocumented, or misdocumented
Am 02.03.10 22:33, schrieb James Fisher: That makes sense. The main thing confusing me on contextgarden is: if cutspace == 0pt then cutspace = backspace end Which I would guess is meant to allow you to just specify backspace if you want symmetrical margins; but what if we want a 0pt cutspace? Then use absolute values for 'backspace' and 'width'. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Super- and sub-script in text mode, or, fonts in math mode
Hi,
A minor problem: I'm trying to place superscripted text in the text body --
things like '2^nd March'. I can't see anything like 2{\sup nd}, so my only
known solution at the moment is math mode: $2^{nd}$. Despite this not being
'math', I don't really have an aversion to it. However, there's a problem
with it: the superscripted text appears in italic Computer Modern. I'm
using Gentium Book Basic as my body font, using XeTeX. The Gentium typeface
is used perfectly everywhere, including the '2' in '2^nd', with the
exception of the superscripted text.
So what solutions are to hand? Is there either (1) super/sub commands in
text mode, or (2) a way of fixing this in math mode?
(Also, would this be a problem with ConTeXt or with XeTeX?)
James Fisher
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Re: [NTG-context] Margin terminology -- badly documented, undocumented, or misdocumented
Fairy muff! James On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 02.03.10 22:33, schrieb James Fisher: That makes sense. The main thing confusing me on contextgarden is: if cutspace == 0pt then cutspace = backspace end Which I would guess is meant to allow you to just specify backspace if you want symmetrical margins; but what if we want a 0pt cutspace? Then use absolute values for 'backspace' and 'width'. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Super- and sub-script in text mode, or, fonts in math mode
Am 02.03.10 22:58, schrieb James Fisher:
Hi,
A minor problem: I'm trying to place superscripted text in the text
body -- things like '2^nd March'. I can't see anything like 2{\sup
nd}, so my only known solution at the moment is math mode: $2^{nd}$.
Despite this not being 'math', I don't really have an aversion to it.
However, there's a problem with it: the superscripted text appears in
italic Computer Modern. I'm using Gentium Book Basic as my body font,
using XeTeX. The Gentium typeface is used perfectly everywhere,
including the '2' in '2^nd', with the exception of the superscripted text.
So what solutions are to hand? Is there either (1) super/sub commands
in text mode, or (2) a way of fixing this in math mode?
(Also, would this be a problem with ConTeXt or with XeTeX?)
a\high{x}b\low{x}c\highlow{x}{y}d\lowhigh{x}{y}
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Blank page at end of chapter
I can't figure out how to turn off running headers on the blank pages that are inserted into a document to make the first page of the next chapter start on a right page. I'm probably overlooking something. Tom Benjey 717-258-9733 voice 717-243-0074 fax Twitter: @TomBenjey ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Blank page at end of chapter
Am 02.03.10 23:07, schrieb Tom: I can't figure out how to turn off running headers on the blank pages that are inserted into a document to make the first page of the next chapter start on a right page. I'm probably overlooking something. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#Truly_empty_pagebreak_before_chapters Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost bug? in MKIV
Am 02.03.2010 21:02, schrieb Troy Henderson: When using \startMPinclusions input graph; \stopMPinclusions or not even including the MPinclusions at all (and thus not doing `input graph;') seems to give the same result. The log of what happens during the compile process is attached. i tried your example (found graph.mp) and i got a bunch of errors regarding wrong picture color model, redundant equations and unknown transform components. #color problem is probably here def Gwithpc_(expr q) = withpen penpart q withcolor (redpart q, greenpart q, bluepart q) enddef; Another difference is the way text is handled in mkiv. In particular, color (withcolor) is not applied to metapost text. #redundant equations use ':=' for constants, etc. # unknown transform components (0,0,_tt_w_1,0,0,1) ! Transform components aren't all known. is this a problem with textext()? looks very cryptic to me. anyhow, in the current form graph.mp does not work with mplib. Peter Troy ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
