Re: [NTG-context] export
Am 2010-09-23 um 01:26 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky: Please tell an (really) unlucky person who didn't visited the conference (like me), what \setupbackeds[export=yes] should do at all? You get the contents of your (well-structured) ConTeXt document as XML ouput, extension .export, intended for tagged PDF use (e.g. PDF/A), but of course usable for XML transformations. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Context to MP
Hello, I'd like to ask - - where could I find a list of variables which (Con)TeX(t) defines to MetaPost scope? When I browsed the Hans' presentations, I encountered PaperWidth, PaperHeight, Page etc. (see e.g. s-pre-22.tex). I didn't find them mentioned/explained in any manual (especially: in mpman.pdf, tab. 5 on pg. 71, there is a list of MP internal variables). So where I could find them with a short description? Lukas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context to MP
Am 23.09.2010 um 09:40 schrieb Procházka Lukáš: Hello, I'd like to ask - - where could I find a list of variables which (Con)TeX(t) defines to MetaPost scope? When I browsed the Hans' presentations, I encountered PaperWidth, PaperHeight, Page etc. (see e.g. s-pre-22.tex). I didn't find them mentioned/explained in any manual (especially: in mpman.pdf, tab. 5 on pg. 71, there is a list of MP internal variables). So where I could find them with a short description? You can find them in the metafun manual: http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-7.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Lua:mplib
Hello, I'm looking for some stuff about calling MP from ConTeXt Lua. The only thing I found is a short reference at http://www.luatex.org/svn/trunk/manual/luatexref-t.pdf, but even when I read some basics (pages 79-83), I don't even know how to draw a line between two points. So I'd like to find a tutorial or examples or a deeper reference about how to call MP via Lua from ConTeXt. - Any idea? Cheers, Lukas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with --autopdf in current beta
On 23-9-2010 6:40, Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Hans, Hi all, with the last beta i get following error message: mtxrun --autogenerate --script context --autopdf --pdf callunatest.tex al/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:649: attempt to call field 'setmethod' (a nil value) Exit code: 1 I use the latest minimal under WinXP. No clue .. it's in l-pdfview.lua and that one is loaded I suppose. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context to MP
Hello, I do not know whether I have correctly understood the question, but what you write nothing to do with MP. Values paperwidth, paperheight etc ... ConTeXt determining the value of paper size (as well as the pagewidth, paperheight, etc stored values of height and všířce pages) and can be transmitted to MP. Look for things related to page layout. Jarda Dne 23.9.2010 9:40, Procházka Lukáš napsal(a): Hello, I'd like to ask - - where could I find a list of variables which (Con)TeX(t) defines to MetaPost scope? When I browsed the Hans' presentations, I encountered PaperWidth, PaperHeight, Page etc. (see e.g. s-pre-22.tex). I didn't find them mentioned/explained in any manual (especially: in mpman.pdf, tab. 5 on pg. 71, there is a list of MP internal variables). So where I could find them with a short description? Lukas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Problem with --autopdf in current beta
sorry for the noise, I had an extra l-pdfview.lua in my working directory :-( 2010/9/23 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: On 23-9-2010 6:40, Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Hans, Hi all, with the last beta i get following error message: mtxrun --autogenerate --script context --autopdf --pdf callunatest.tex al/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:649: attempt to call field 'setmethod' (a nil value) Exit code: 1 I use the latest minimal under WinXP. No clue .. it's in l-pdfview.lua and that one is loaded I suppose. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lua:mplib
Am 23.09.2010 um 09:53 schrieb Procházka Lukáš: Hello, I'm looking for some stuff about calling MP from ConTeXt Lua. The only thing I found is a short reference at http://www.luatex.org/svn/trunk/manual/luatexref-t.pdf, but even when I read some basics (pages 79-83), I don't even know how to draw a line between two points. So I'd like to find a tutorial or examples or a deeper reference about how to call MP via Lua from ConTeXt. - Any idea? You don’t have to think so complicated: \starttext \startluacode context.startMPpage() context(draw fullcircle scaled 2cm;) context.stopMPpage \stopluacode \stoptext See also http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-44.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context to MP
On Thursday 23 September 2010 09:40:36 Procházka Lukáš wrote: Hello, I'd like to ask - - where could I find a list of variables which (Con)TeX(t) defines to MetaPost scope? When I browsed the Hans' presentations, I encountered PaperWidth, PaperHeight, Page etc. (see e.g. s-pre-22.tex). I didn't find them mentioned/explained in any manual (especially: in mpman.pdf, tab. 5 on pg. 71, there is a list of MP internal variables). So where I could find them with a short description? They appear to be defined in meta-pag.mkiv (including the path PlainTextArea) Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Hi, my goal is to make a table that is as wide as the current \startnarrower ... \stopnarrower part (thanks to the answer to this question on tex.stackexchange.com: http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3381/243 ) -- \starttext \startnarrower \input tufte \bTABLE[option=stretch] \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stopnarrower \stoptext -- Can I make the table exactly as wide as the text? Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lua:mplib
On 2010-09-23 09:53:38, Procházka Lukáš wrote: So I'd like to find a tutorial or examples or a deeper reference about how to call MP via Lua from ConTeXt. - Any idea? Hi Lukáš, this doesn't seem to be implemented yet, cf. this post: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100805.225554.4212c0c8.en.html for now, as Wolfgang suggested, the “building strings and passing them to context.MPdrawing()” method works acceptably if you define yourself some wrapper functions. But maybe Hans already has some prototype for a Metapost-Context interface in his drawer … Regards, Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments pgpwfYS42ilRD.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lua:mplib
2010/9/23 Procházka Lukáš l...@pontex.cz: So I'd like to find a tutorial or examples or a deeper reference about how to call MP via Lua from ConTeXt. - Any idea? As usual browse the sources search for mplib -- they are not so complicated to read -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Am 23.09.2010 um 10:14 schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Hi, my goal is to make a table that is as wide as the current \startnarrower ... \stopnarrower part (thanks to the answer to this question on tex.stackexchange.com: http://tex.stackexchange.com/q/3381/243 ) -- \starttext \startnarrower \input tufte \startlinecorrection \dontleavehmode \bTABLE[option=stretch,textwidth=\localhsize] \bTABLE[option=stretch] \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stoplinecorrection \stopnarrower \stoptext -- Can I make the table exactly as wide as the text? Use the “textwidth” key but keep in mind with the linecorrection you can use split tables, for tables which use indent from \startnarrower and split across pages you can use tabulate. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lua:mplib
Thanks for the answers to all... It seems that I'm trying to do similar things as someone else was trying before - - use of context.MPdrawing() looks best at the moment. Maybe it will become deprecated as soon as Lua involves MP. Best, Lukas On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:20:23 +0200, Philipp Gesang pges...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de wrote: On 2010-09-23 09:53:38, Procházka Lukáš wrote: So I'd like to find a tutorial or examples or a deeper reference about how to call MP via Lua from ConTeXt. - Any idea? Hi Lukáš, this doesn't seem to be implemented yet, cf. this post: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100805.225554.4212c0c8.en.html for now, as Wolfgang suggested, the “building strings and passing them to context.MPdrawing()” method works acceptably if you define yourself some wrapper functions. But maybe Hans already has some prototype for a Metapost-Context interface in his drawer … Regards, Philipp ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Context to MP
Thanks Wolfgang, I got it. Cheers, Lukas On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:50:20 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 23.09.2010 um 09:40 schrieb Procházka Lukáš: Hello, I'd like to ask - - where could I find a list of variables which (Con)TeX(t) defines to MetaPost scope? When I browsed the Hans' presentations, I encountered PaperWidth, PaperHeight, Page etc. (see e.g. s-pre-22.tex). I didn't find them mentioned/explained in any manual (especially: in mpman.pdf, tab. 5 on pg. 71, there is a list of MP internal variables). So where I could find them with a short description? You can find them in the metafun manual: http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-7.htm Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Hello Wolfgang, Use the “textwidth” key but keep in mind with the linecorrection you can use split tables, for tables which use indent from \startnarrower and split across pages you can use tabulate. I am afraid I don't get the full meaning of your answer. When I use tabulate, I have exactly the same problem as I have with TABLEs: - \starttext \startnarrower \input tufte \starttabulate[|l|l|] \HL \NC format \NC meaning \NC\NR \HL \NC c \NC centered\NC\NR \NC l \NC left aligned\NC\NR \NC r \NC right aligned \NC\NR \NC w(1cm) \NC one line, fixed width \NC\NR \NC p(2cm) \NC paragraph, lines broken to fixed width \NC\NR \NC cg(.) \NC align on a character\NC\NR \HL \stoptabulate \stopnarrower \stoptext - (and I couldn't find a key from setuptabulate that changes the width of the table) Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Am 23.09.2010 um 10:48 schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Hello Wolfgang, Use the “textwidth” key but keep in mind with the linecorrection you can use split tables, for tables which use indent from \startnarrower and split across pages you can use tabulate. I am afraid I don't get the full meaning of your answer. When I use tabulate, I have exactly the same problem as I have with TABLEs: Sorry but i don’t know what you mean, in my example the tabulate has the same width as the text in the narrower environment. \starttext \input knuth \startnarrower \input knuth \starttabulate[|p|p|] \NC \input ward \NC \input zapf \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stopnarrower \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Hello Wolfgang, Sorry but i don’t know what you mean, in my example the tabulate has the same width as the text in the narrower environment. Insert an \HL and you'll see that this a bit strange. \starttext \input knuth \startnarrower \input knuth \starttabulate[|p|p|] \HL \NC \input ward \NC \input zapf \NC\NR \stoptabulate \stopnarrower \stoptext Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Am 23.09.2010 um 11:00 schrieb Patrick Gundlach: Hello Wolfgang, Sorry but i don’t know what you mean, in my example the tabulate has the same width as the text in the narrower environment. Insert an \HL and you'll see that this a bit strange. You can use \HR, it has more spacing before and after the line but it works correct in narrower text and itemize. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lua:mplib
On 23-9-2010 10:35, Procházka Lukáš wrote: Thanks for the answers to all... It seems that I'm trying to do similar things as someone else was trying before - - use of context.MPdrawing() looks best at the moment. Maybe it will become deprecated as soon as Lua involves MP. it is unlikely to become deprecated Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
You can use \HR, it has more spacing before and after the line but it works correct in narrower text and itemize. Sorry for the stupid question, but how do I use \HR? \starttabulate[|p|p|] \HR \NC \input ward \NC \input zapf \NC\NR \HR \stoptabulate gives me a misplaced noalign. Patrick ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \startnarrower and TABLEs
Am 23.09.2010 um 11:27 schrieb Patrick Gundlach: You can use \HR, it has more spacing before and after the line but it works correct in narrower text and itemize. Sorry for the stupid question, but how do I use \HR? \starttabulate[|p|p|] \HR \NC \input ward \NC \input zapf \NC\NR \HR \stoptabulate gives me a misplaced noalign. Make a bug report, your example works with mkii but fails with mkiv. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] [OT] ghostscript 9.00
http://ghostscript.com/releases/ Not so OT, btw: it's interesting for its support of Color Management. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On 2010-09-21 21:47:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 21-9-2010 8:39, Philipp Gesang wrote:
* Can be circumvented via “\dontleavehmode”.
Alan ran into this at the ctx conference and it is under investigation.
Hi,
in case this helps with debugging: you can’t work around the
issue by means of “\dontleavehmode” if you set up the paragraph
auto-indentation to “yes,medium”:
8···
\setupindenting[yes,medium] % comment this out and it works again
\usemodule[lettrine]
\starttext
\chapter{Some Section}
\startparagraph
\dontleavehmode\lettrine{D}{on Knuth asserts:}
\input knuth
\stopparagraph
\stoptext
8···
This results, again, in the glue node error.
Philipp
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Re: [NTG-context] [OT] ghostscript 9.00
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 1:57 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: http://ghostscript.com/releases/ Not so OT, btw: it's interesting for its support of Color Management. It fails on mk.pdf -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
Please tell an (really) unlucky person who didn't visited the conference (like me), what \setupbackeds[export=yes] should do at all? You get the contents of your (well-structured) ConTeXt document as XML ouput, extension .export, intended for tagged PDF use (e.g. PDF/A), but of course usable for XML transformations. Thank you, Hraban! Wikified, please check at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupbackeds -- Best Regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
Hi, There is a typo in the link: it should be setupbackends and not setupbackeds. The command is fine though. Regards. -- Cédric On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:00, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky yatskov...@gmail.com wrote: Please tell an (really) unlucky person who didn't visited the conference (like me), what \setupbackeds[export=yes] should do at all? You get the contents of your (well-structured) ConTeXt document as XML ouput, extension .export, intended for tagged PDF use (e.g. PDF/A), but of course usable for XML transformations. Thank you, Hraban! Wikified, please check at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupbackeds -- Best Regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On 23-9-2010 2:32, Philipp Gesang wrote:
On 2010-09-2121:47:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 21-9-2010 8:39, Philipp Gesang wrote:
* Can be circumvented via “\dontleavehmode”.
Alan ran into this at the ctx conference and it is under investigation.
Hi,
in case this helps with debugging: you can’t work around the
issue by means of “\dontleavehmode” if you set up the paragraph
auto-indentation to “yes,medium”:
8···
\setupindenting[yes,medium] % comment this out and it works again
\usemodule[lettrine]
\starttext
\chapter{Some Section}
\startparagraph
\dontleavehmode\lettrine{D}{on Knuth asserts:}
\input knuth
\stopparagraph
\stoptext
8···
This results, again, in the glue node error.
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] export
On 22/09/10 06:45, Hans Hagen wrote: \setupbackeds[export=yes] You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun. Hi Hans, Thanks! this is a useful step in the direction of ctx2odt support. Are you planning to provide (basic) (x)html export too? (I'm thinking about this workflow: write in ctx - make pdf/make html - open html in OpenOffice - save as odt/doc.) Jelle ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
On 23-9-2010 3:55, Jelle Huisman wrote: On 22/09/10 06:45, Hans Hagen wrote: \setupbackeds[export=yes] You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun. Hi Hans, Thanks! this is a useful step in the direction of ctx2odt support. Are you planning to provide (basic) (x)html export too? (I'm thinking about this workflow: write in ctx - make pdf/make html - open html in OpenOffice - save as odt/doc.) As xhtml is just xml converted to other tags, I suppose that at some day there will be additional converters. I would only come up with one in the perspective of a project as I have no need for it. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. Are the reference slides or code available. I could not find any in the context meeting slides. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Of course. I don't know why this did not occur to me. (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 23-9-2010 3:55, Jelle Huisman wrote: On 22/09/10 06:45, Hans Hagen wrote: \setupbackeds[export=yes] You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun. Hi Hans, Thanks! this is a useful step in the direction of ctx2odt support. Are you planning to provide (basic) (x)html export too? (I'm thinking about this workflow: write in ctx - make pdf/make html - open html in OpenOffice - save as odt/doc.) As xhtml is just xml converted to other tags, I suppose that at some day there will be additional converters. I would only come up with one in the perspective of a project as I have no need for it. There cannot be a universal one-to-one mapping between context generate xml and xhtml. For example, in a book, I may want \chapter to map to h1 while in an article, I may want \section to map to h1. Nonetheless, having a specialized xml to xhtml converter should not be too difficult (using the verbose XSLT transformations). Targetting html5 is another option. On the otherhand, a ConTeXt module that can read context generated xml will be nice... then the context xml can be the target input form for an automated tool trying to generate context source. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
On 23-9-2010 5:01, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 23-9-2010 3:55, Jelle Huisman wrote: On 22/09/10 06:45, Hans Hagen wrote: \setupbackeds[export=yes] You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun. Hi Hans, Thanks! this is a useful step in the direction of ctx2odt support. Are you planning to provide (basic) (x)html export too? (I'm thinking about this workflow: write in ctx - make pdf/make html - open html in OpenOffice - save as odt/doc.) As xhtml is just xml converted to other tags, I suppose that at some day there will be additional converters. I would only come up with one in the perspective of a project as I have no need for it. There cannot be a universal one-to-one mapping between context generate xml and xhtml. For example, in a book, I may want \chapter to map to h1 while in an article, I may want \section to map to h1. Nonetheless, having a specialized xml to xhtml converter should not be too difficult (using the verbose XSLT transformations). Targetting html5 is another option. indeed On the otherhand, a ConTeXt module that can read context generated xml will be nice... then the context xml can be the target input form for an automated tool trying to generate context source. it's on my list to make such a roundtrip style Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] export
On 23/09/10 11:12, Hans Hagen wrote: As xhtml is just xml converted to other tags, I suppose that at some day there will be additional converters. I would only come up with one in the perspective of a project as I have no need for it. There cannot be a universal one-to-one mapping between context generate xml and xhtml. For example, in a book, I may want \chapter to map to h1 while in an article, I may want \section to map to h1. Nonetheless, having a specialized xml to xhtml converter should not be too difficult (using the verbose XSLT transformations). Targetting html5 is another option. indeed Sounds like it's time to learn some xslt ;-) Jelle ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:49:07 Hans Hagen wrote:
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
As Hans indicated, he is aware of the problem with the lettrine module
and will fix it. In the meantime, you can get by using simply:
%\usemodule [lettrine]
% broken, so let's fake it:
\def\lettrine#1#2{{\tfc #1}#2}
Of course, this is no good for production, but it is a simple
solution if you are working on drafts.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:51:58AM -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 16.09.2010 um 00:34 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: Hi, Is it possible to change the name of the font as it appears in the pdf file? More specifically, I am using Termes font, but I want that the document properties to show the name of the font as Times. Is that possible? Is doing so a violation of the font license? Taco showed at the conference a way to modify the values of a font and i think you can use this. Are the reference slides or code available. I could not find any in the context meeting slides. A easier solution is to use the real Times fonts instead of the TeX Gyre version, Times New Roman is available as part of the basic web fonts and AFAIR many linux distros provide a mechanism to download them. Of course. I don't know why this did not occur to me. (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually it is the real times, but Linotype registered the name Times Roman in USA before Monotype (the designers of the font) and Monotype had to use Times New Roman instead. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually, it is the original. See Walter Tracy's wonderful book _Letters of Credit_ for one view of the details, and a follow-up article published in the APHA journal for the balance of the story. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:49:07 Hans Hagen wrote:
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
As Hans indicated, he is aware of the problem with the lettrine module
and will fix it. In the meantime, you can get by using simply:
%\usemodule [lettrine]
% broken, so let's fake it:
\def\lettrine#1#2{{\tfc #1}#2}
Of course, this is no good for production, but it is a simple
solution if you are working on drafts.
Isn't it better to use initials? This is what one of setups has
\definehead[initialtitle][title]
\setuphead[initialtitle]
[after=\placeinitial]
\definefontsynonym[initial][name:fontin]
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
And then I can simply use
\initialtitle {Don Knuth said}
\input knuth
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] A rose by any other name ....
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, William Adams wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: (but ... TNR is not real Times but no one cares for that) Actually, it is the original. See Walter Tracy's wonderful book _Letters of Credit_ for one view of the details, and a follow-up article published in the APHA journal for the balance of the story. William and Khaled, thanks. I did not know this. Most interesting. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thursday 23 September 2010 18:24:05 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:49:07 Hans Hagen wrote:
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
As Hans indicated, he is aware of the problem with the lettrine module
and will fix it. In the meantime, you can get by using simply:
%\usemodule [lettrine]
% broken, so let's fake it:
\def\lettrine#1#2{{\tfc #1}#2}
Of course, this is no good for production, but it is a simple
solution if you are working on drafts.
Isn't it better to use initials? This is what one of setups has
\definehead[initialtitle][title]
\setuphead[initialtitle]
[after=\placeinitial]
\definefontsynonym[initial][name:fontin]
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
And then I can simply use
\initialtitle {Don Knuth said}
\input knuth
Aditya
I don't think that it is the same thing, but I do not understand
your example. Did you try running it?
Alan
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[NTG-context] Wikifying: footnotes in margin - two questions
Hi all,
when Hans introduced the criterium option to \setupnote in recent betas
of MkIV, he asked me to wikify the problem of typesetting footnotes in
the margin in order to demonstrate the usage of that option. There are,
however, two questions I'd like to settle first. For one thing, the new
algorithm is still error prone as I can provide examples where it fails.
What is the preferred way to point out such a problem (in the wiki or
whereever), so it will be delt with eventually? Secondly, can someone
please explain to me why the example below produces so strikingly
different results when processed with MkII or MkIV? In particular, I'd
like to know why the footnote numbers are placed differently and, unless
this is due to a bug, how to mimic the MkII behaviour in MkIV.
Thanks in advance,
Elias
\setuplayout[backspace=6cm,width=middle,rightmarginwidth=4cm,
rightmargindistance=5mm]
\doifelse{MKIV}{\contextmark}{
\setupnote[footnote][location=text,criterium=page,
before=,rule=off]}{
\setupnote[footnote][factor=0,before=,rule=off,
width=\rightmarginwidth]}
\setuptexttexts[margin][][
\vbox to \textheight {\vfill\placenotes[footnote]}]
\starttext
\showframe
\dorecurse{12}{A little more test\footnote{Note the alignment of
consecutive lines.} text in order to achieve a certain filling of
the page. }
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Hello, masters ... I would like create my first context mkiv module. Can someone please steer me what the first study and where to find some good advice for beginners? Appropriate would be also a simple module, which was easy to read and find out how to do everything correctly. Thanx Jaroslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 18:24:05 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:49:07 Hans Hagen wrote:
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
As Hans indicated, he is aware of the problem with the lettrine module
and will fix it. In the meantime, you can get by using simply:
%\usemodule [lettrine]
% broken, so let's fake it:
\def\lettrine#1#2{{\tfc #1}#2}
Of course, this is no good for production, but it is a simple
solution if you are working on drafts.
Isn't it better to use initials? This is what one of setups has
\definehead[initialtitle][title]
\setuphead[initialtitle]
[after=\placeinitial]
\definefontsynonym[initial][name:fontin]
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
And then I can simply use
\initialtitle {Don Knuth said}
\input knuth
Aditya
I don't think that it is the same thing, but I do not understand
your example. Did you try running it?
Sorry... \placeinitial gobbles \input but here is a standalone
example:
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
\starttext
\placeinitial This is what Knuth said: \input knuth
\stoptext
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thursday 23 September 2010 18:46:00 you wrote:
Sorry... \placeinitial gobbles \input but here is a standalone
example:
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
\starttext
\placeinitial This is what Knuth said: \input knuth
\stoptext
I didn't know about initial...
%D \macros
%D {setupinitial,placeinitial,checkinitial}
%D
%D {\em To be documented.}
Indeed!
Nice, I would like to use something like this,
even setting it up to be automatic at the beginning
of chapters, for example.
But it does not quite work as lettrines.
In a silly language such as French, the following fails:
\placeinitial L'objet de cette commande\dots
as one needs:
\lettrine{L'}{objet} de cette commande\dots
Other heuristics might apply in different cases.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] export
On Thu, Sep 23 2010, Cedric Mauclair wrote: There is a typo in the link: it should be setupbackends and not setupbackeds. The command is fine though. All right, yet another redirect: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupbackends ;)) Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 18:46:00 you wrote:
Sorry... \placeinitial gobbles \input but here is a standalone
example:
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
\starttext
\placeinitial This is what Knuth said: \input knuth
\stoptext
I didn't know about initial...
%D \macros
%D {setupinitial,placeinitial,checkinitial}
%D
%D {\em To be documented.}
Indeed!
So you do not consider the source itself as the documentation :)
Nice, I would like to use something like this,
even setting it up to be automatic at the beginning
of chapters, for example.
The example that I showed earlier did that. Essentially, just use
\setuphead[chapter][after=\placeinitial]
But it does not quite work as lettrines.
Indeed. Otherwise, there would no need for a separate module. Actually, it
will be nice if the functionality of lettrine can be merged with
\placeintial.
In a silly language such as French, the following fails:
\placeinitial L'objet de cette commande\dots
as one needs:
\lettrine{L'}{objet} de cette commande\dots
Other heuristics might apply in different cases.
And there are sentences starting with quotations, etc.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On 2010-09-23 12:24:05, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
On Thursday 23 September 2010 15:49:07 Hans Hagen wrote:
we know and we will take a look at it next week (as it takes some time
to nail down node allocation bugs)
As Hans indicated, he is aware of the problem with the lettrine module
and will fix it. In the meantime, you can get by using simply:
%\usemodule [lettrine]
% broken, so let's fake it:
\def\lettrine#1#2{{\tfc #1}#2}
Of course, this is no good for production, but it is a simple
solution if you are working on drafts.
Isn't it better to use initials? This is what one of setups has
\definehead[initialtitle][title]
\setuphead[initialtitle]
[after=\placeinitial]
\definefontsynonym[initial][name:fontin]
\setupinitial
[ state=start,
n=3,
distance=-.1pc,
]
And then I can simply use
\initialtitle {Don Knuth said}
\input knuth
Dear Alan, Aditya, and everybody else,
thanks for your efforts, but I’m afraid that you were being
mislead about my intentions.
I am (probably mis-)using the lettrine module in order to fake the
Knuthian \danger and \ddanger macros in auto-generated context
code. One of the main goals is, other than pure convenience on my
part, that understanding of the resulting code requires only
knowledge of high-level context macros, not of high-level tex
wizardry. Of course I could start with texbook, p. 419, and try
to adapt it to context (seems to be non-trivial), but even if I
should succeed, the effort necessary to understand what’s going
on is huge compared to when using a well-known and
well-documented module.
That’s why I rather do without autoindentation, as it concerns
only the layout of the manual, not the code itself.
@Aditya, I couldn’t get your code to work, neither in mkii nor in
mkiv. Anyways, I wasn’t aware of \setup/placeinitial before so I
learned something new today.
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Re: [NTG-context] Lettrines in MkIV
On Thursday 23 September 2010 19:38:46 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
%D \macros
%D {setupinitial,placeinitial,checkinitial}
%D
%D {\em To be documented.}
Indeed!
So you do not consider the source itself as the documentation :)
Copied verbatum!
I (still) read documentation better than source code,
although I am learning how to read \TeX macros and now
even lua functions. I am also supposed to work on
*writing* the documentation!
But it does not quite work as lettrines.
Indeed. Otherwise, there would no need for a separate module. Actually, it
will be nice if the functionality of lettrine can be merged with
\placeintial.
Would be very nice. Do you have good ideas about how to better parse
the beginning of text? One needs to be clever.
\lettrine{L'}{objet} de cette commande\dots
Other heuristics might apply in different cases.
And there are sentences starting with quotations, etc.
As in:
\quote{The rain in Spain...}
Maybe others on the mailing list can suggest many particular cases.
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] export
Am 23.09.2010 um 17:12 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 23-9-2010 5:01, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 23-9-2010 3:55, Jelle Huisman wrote: On 22/09/10 06:45, Hans Hagen wrote: \setupbackeds[export=yes] You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun. Hi Hans, Thanks! this is a useful step in the direction of ctx2odt support. Are you planning to provide (basic) (x)html export too? (I'm thinking about this workflow: write in ctx - make pdf/make html - open html in OpenOffice - save as odt/doc.) As xhtml is just xml converted to other tags, I suppose that at some day there will be additional converters. I would only come up with one in the perspective of a project as I have no need for it. There cannot be a universal one-to-one mapping between context generate xml and xhtml. For example, in a book, I may want \chapter to map to h1 while in an article, I may want \section to map to h1. Nonetheless, having a specialized xml to xhtml converter should not be too difficult (using the verbose XSLT transformations). Targetting html5 is another option. indeed On the otherhand, a ConTeXt module that can read context generated xml will be nice... then the context xml can be the target input form for an automated tool trying to generate context source. it's on my list to make such a roundtrip style =:o) st. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
On 23-9-2010 6:35, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote: Hello, masters ... I would like create my first context mkiv module. Can someone please steer me what the first study and where to find some good advice for beginners? Appropriate would be also a simple module, which was easy to read and find out how to do everything correctly. just take a look at wolfgang's ... they use the latest mkiv abstractions (module namespaces etc, something that Wolfgang, Aditya and I are working on). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 22:32 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 23-9-2010 6:35, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote: Hello, masters ... I would like create my first context mkiv module. Can someone please steer me what the first study and where to find some good advice for beginners? Appropriate would be also a simple module, which was easy to read and find out how to do everything correctly. just take a look at wolfgang's ... they use the latest mkiv abstractions (module namespaces etc, something that Wolfgang, Aditya and I are working on). btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 22:32 schrieb Hans Hagen: On 23-9-2010 6:35, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote: Hello, masters ... I would like create my first context mkiv module. Can someone please steer me what the first study and where to find some good advice for beginners? Appropriate would be also a simple module, which was easy to read and find out how to do everything correctly. just take a look at wolfgang's ... they use the latest mkiv abstractions (module namespaces etc, something that Wolfgang, Aditya and I are working on). fancybreak [1] is at the moment the only module with all these things but the other will follow [1] http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/fancybreak/src/tip/files/ Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 22:42 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 22:47 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:42 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. What is missing? Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
On 23-9-2010 11:08, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:47 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:42 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. \usemodule[p][my-test] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:08 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. What is missing? Can you give more information or a example, you don’t mention which file you process and what’s loaded in them. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:47 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:42 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. What is missing? Module lookups do not search in the parent or grand parent directories. One alternative is to always run files from the top project folder: context dir/dir/file Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Can you give more information or a example, you don’t mention which file you process and what’s loaded in them. Consider a simple setup: root-dir/ p-module.tex env-file.tex project-file.tex subdir/ component-file1.tex component-file2.tex Suppose the component-file1 file says \environment env-file while component-file2 says \usemodule[p][module] If I run everything from the root directory, then both component1 and component2 compile fine. On the other hand if I run everything from the subdir, then component1 compiles fine, but component2 will fail to load the module. Basically, module search does not look in parent directories. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:17 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:47 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 23.09.2010 um 22:42 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. What is missing? Module lookups do not search in the parent or grand parent directories. I rather suspected that. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:15 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster: Am 23.09.2010 um 23:08 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum: btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in ~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder. is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects folder? or do I have to use for this purpose environment files? You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before the files in the tex tree. Sounds good, but ... For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line: \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p-my-test] Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to project_test.tex in the project's folder). The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the file's name between two runs. The module is never found. What is missing? Can you give more information or a example, you don’t mention which file you process and what’s loaded in them. It's like this (mapping context's recommended project structure): project-dir/ p-module.tex env-file.tex project-file.tex product-file.tex subdir/ component-file1.tex component-file2.tex The project-file file says \environment Style_Test \usemodule[p][module] Now I run from the subdir eg. component-file1.tex: the environment was loaded the module was not. Steffen ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Hello,
Thanks very much everyone for your advice, I am certainly now a better
starting position ...
I will try to learn something ...
Maybe it sounds silly but at the very beginning I was surprised by the
type of construction:
\def\ld{ld}
\def\ls{ls}
Where do I read about it more?
You have not it easy with me, right? :-)
But luckily I learn fairly quickly :-)...
One more thanx - I appreciate your willingness...
Jarda
Dne 23.9.2010 23:30, Steffen Wolfrum napsal(a):
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:15 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:08 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:
btw: modules are used to be stored eg. in
~/context/tex/texmf-local/tex/context/third/ folder.
is is also possible to keep/find them not in texfm tree but in a projects
folder?
or do I have to use for this purpose environment files?
You can put modules in your project folder and these are always loaded before
the files in the tex tree.
Sounds good, but ...
For example I have in a project's folder a project_test file with these line:
\environment Style_Test
\usemodule[p-my-test]
Both files (Style_Test.tex and p-my-test.tex are stored next to
project_test.tex in the project's folder).
The environment file is found without problems ... even when I change the
file's name between two runs.
The module is never found.
What is missing?
Can you give more information or a example, you don’t mention which file you
process and what’s loaded in them.
It's like this (mapping context's recommended project structure):
project-dir/
p-module.tex
env-file.tex
project-file.tex
product-file.tex
subdir/
component-file1.tex
component-file2.tex
The project-file file says
\environment Style_Test
\usemodule[p][module]
Now I run from the subdir eg. component-file1.tex:
the environment was loaded
the module was not.
Steffen
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Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:21 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Basically, module search does not look in parent directories.
But you can use a construct like
\doifmodeelse{component}
{\usemodule[module]}
{\usemodule[../module]}
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:21 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Basically, module search does not look in parent directories.
But you can use a construct like
\doifmodeelse{component}
{\usemodule[module]}
{\usemodule[../module]}
And if you are two directories deep for some components and one dir deep
for others.
\environment \component etc use a heirarchical search. I think that
\usemodule should also use that.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:36 schrieb Jaroslav Hajtmar:
Hello,
Thanks very much everyone for your advice, I am certainly now a better
starting position ...
I will try to learn something ...
Maybe it sounds silly but at the very beginning I was surprised by the type
of construction:
\def\ld{ld}
\def\ls{ls}
Where do I read about it more?
These are namespaces but you don't need these constructs anymore in mkiv
because there is now a \definenamespace command which takes care of this.
You need a namespace when you use a setup command with key-value-pairs to have
unique names for the keys.
BTW: The two letter namespaces are reserved for Hams and me but you’re free to
use longer ones (we should collect them on a page at the wiki).
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Info about creating modules for beginners.
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 23.09.2010 um 23:21 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Basically, module search does not look in parent directories.
But you can use a construct like
\doifmodeelse{component}
{\usemodule[module]}
{\usemodule[../module]}
And if you are two directories deep for some components and one dir deep for
others.
\environment \component etc use a heirarchical search. I think that
\usemodule should also use that.
And what’s with pictures, \setupexternalfigure[directory=...] has the same
problem as \usemodule?
Wolfgang
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