Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 09.11.2010 08:45, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 Just do the following:
 
 1.) extract 
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/install/fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida.zip
 into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/
 
 2.) copy all *.pfb files into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/fonts/type1/bh/lucida
 
 3.) run mktexlsr and mtxrun --generate

thanks, I did it with a new minimal,
but as I already posted:

...
define fonts font with name LucidaBright is not found
define fonts unknown font LucidaBright, loading aborted
define fonts unable to define LucidaBright as \*lucida12ptrmtf*
define fonts source file 'lbr' is not found
define fonts unable to determine font format for ''
define fonts source file 'lbd' is not found
...

it looks for yy filenames l??, but I have only pfb files
with filenames from adobe (bh)

Herbert
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[NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all,

I need a somewhat unusual vertical setup for typesetting a play. Here is some 
ASCII art that may show what I want:

SP XXX
   XX15

So: beginning of the line has a fixed space for the abbreviation of the speaker 
(if there is a speaker designation attached to the line). Then comes the line 
itself, which fills ca. 80 % amount of the linewidth and needs to be broken as 
a normal paragraph if it is longer than this space. At the end of the line, 
another fixed space with the line number, flushright; this number needs to be 
at the bottom of the paragraph. I have tried three different approaches, but 
all of them have some problem. One thing to keep in mind: there will be around 
3000 such lines, so this might affect processing time. So here are the three 
approaches:

1. low-level, with boxes. Problem: messes up vertical spacing. (I have set the 
interlinespace to an absurd dimension because this shows the problem in a 
clearer way). I tried using \strut s at a few places, but couldn't get this to 
work:

2. tabulate: nice, but I can't get the number to be aligned to the bottom. Is 
there any parameter or trick for that?

3. baseline between columns is not aligned (maybe I'm missing the right 
parameter?), extra vertical space is added.

Eagerly awaiting your suggestions!

All best

Thomas

\setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]

\setupinterlinespace[line=4.5ex]

\startbuffer
\MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}

\MyLine{10}{Me.}{This line is slightly longer, so it will be broken into
  two lines in the output.}

\MyLine{15}{Fa.}{This line is short again.}

\MyLine{20}{Me.}{Another longer line that will be broken into
  two lines in the output.}

\MyLine{25}{Fa.}{And the last line.}
\stopbuffer
\starttext

\def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\hsize=6cm #3}\hbox{\vbox to \ht\scratchbox{\hbox to 
1cm{\bf #2}\vfill}\vbox{\hsize=6cm #3\par}\vbox to \ht\scratchbox{\vfill\hbox 
to 1cm{\hfill #1

\getbuffer

\definetabulate[ELine][|Blw(0.65cm)|p(5.8cm)|rw(0.8cm)|]

\def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\startELine
\NC #2 \NC #3 \NC #1 \NR
   \stopELine}

\getbuffer

\setupTABLE[column][1][width=1cm,frame=off,offset=0pt,,align={right}]
\setupTABLE[column][2][width=6cm,frame=off,align={normal}]
\setupTABLE[column][3][width=1cm,frame=off,align={left,low}]

\def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\bTABLE
\bTR\bTD \bf #2 \eTD\bTD #3 \eTD\bTD #1 \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE}

\getbuffer

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Oh, I forgot one important detail: I have protrusion enabled, so I need 
protrusion for the main text (argument #2). This works with the low-level 
approach, but not with the other ones, I think.

On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I need a somewhat unusual vertical setup for typesetting a play. Here is some 
 ASCII art that may show what I want:
 
 SP XXX
   XX15
 
 So: beginning of the line has a fixed space for the abbreviation of the 
 speaker (if there is a speaker designation attached to the line). Then comes 
 the line itself, which fills ca. 80 % amount of the linewidth and needs to be 
 broken as a normal paragraph if it is longer than this space. At the end of 
 the line, another fixed space with the line number, flushright; this number 
 needs to be at the bottom of the paragraph. I have tried three different 
 approaches, but all of them have some problem. One thing to keep in mind: 
 there will be around 3000 such lines, so this might affect processing time. 
 So here are the three approaches:
 
 1. low-level, with boxes. Problem: messes up vertical spacing. (I have set 
 the interlinespace to an absurd dimension because this shows the problem in a 
 clearer way). I tried using \strut s at a few places, but couldn't get this 
 to work:
 
 2. tabulate: nice, but I can't get the number to be aligned to the bottom. Is 
 there any parameter or trick for that?
 
 3. baseline between columns is not aligned (maybe I'm missing the right 
 parameter?), extra vertical space is added.
 
 Eagerly awaiting your suggestions!
 
 All best
 
 Thomas
 
 \setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]
 
 \setupinterlinespace[line=4.5ex]
 
 \startbuffer
 \MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}
 
 \MyLine{10}{Me.}{This line is slightly longer, so it will be broken into
  two lines in the output.}
 
 \MyLine{15}{Fa.}{This line is short again.}
 
 \MyLine{20}{Me.}{Another longer line that will be broken into
  two lines in the output.}
 
 \MyLine{25}{Fa.}{And the last line.}
 \stopbuffer
 \starttext
 
 \def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\setbox\scratchbox\vbox{\hsize=6cm #3}\hbox{\vbox to \ht\scratchbox{\hbox 
 to 1cm{\bf #2}\vfill}\vbox{\hsize=6cm #3\par}\vbox to 
 \ht\scratchbox{\vfill\hbox to 1cm{\hfill #1
 
 \getbuffer
 
 \definetabulate[ELine][|Blw(0.65cm)|p(5.8cm)|rw(0.8cm)|]
 
 \def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\startELine
\NC #2 \NC #3 \NC #1 \NR
   \stopELine}
 
 \getbuffer
 
 \setupTABLE[column][1][width=1cm,frame=off,offset=0pt,,align={right}]
 \setupTABLE[column][2][width=6cm,frame=off,align={normal}]
 \setupTABLE[column][3][width=1cm,frame=off,align={left,low}]
 
 \def\MyLine#1#2#3%
  {\bTABLE
\bTR\bTD \bf #2 \eTD\bTD #3 \eTD\bTD #1 \eTD \eTR
   \eTABLE}
 
 \getbuffer
 
 \stoptext
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Hans van der Meer
I read the message below and hoped my Lucida would work.

On 9 nov 2010, at 08:45, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 2010/11/8 Herbert Voss wrote:
 Am 08.11.2010 14:42, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
 2010/11/8 Herbert Voss wrote:
 Has someone a working typescript file for the Lucida
 from TUG?
 
 Lucida should work out of the box (since beginning of 2010) if you
 have the files from TUG installed:
 
 % \usetypescript[lucida][ec] % for MKII
 \setupbodyfont[lucida]
 
 If you have any problems setting up the font, please ask. (See also
 the beginning of http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lucida, ignoring the
 old instructions.)
 


I have the original YY fonts of both Lucida and MathTimes, bought and paid for 
as it should be. My expectations were high in the light of this and previous 
messages about the Lucida fonts.
Whowever, doing

\setupbodyfont[lucida,11pt]
\starttext
...
\stoptext

This takes, presumably an endless loop. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Hans van der Meer


The log says (abbreviated):


fonts/afm/hoekwater/stmaryrd/stmary10.afm
report | lua: compiling 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/enc/unicode.tma
 into 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/enc/unicode.tmc
load afm assigning private slot U+F for unknown glyph name oblong


load otf saving in cache: 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmmono12-regular.otf
report | lua: compiling 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/otf/lmmono12-regular.tma
 into 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/otf/lmmono12-regular.tmc
load otf preprocessing and caching took 0.041 seconds


fontnames0 system files identified, 0 skipped, 0 duplicates, 0 hash 
entries added, runtime 0.002 seconds
fontnames8 files rejected due to clashes
fontnames192 double lookups in mappings
fontnames4 double lookups in fallbacks
report | lua: compiling 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/data/names.tma
 into 
/Volumes/ALDARAN/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e6d152282a788cf572580301585138b3/fonts/data/names.tmc
Process aborted

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Re: [NTG-context] linebreak in part title

2010-11-09 Thread Michael Murphy
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 01:20 +0100, Michael Goerz wrote:

 Hmm... that doesn't seem to do linebreaks. It shifts the part title a
 bit horizontally. It also does weird things to some my *chapter* titles
 (add a large space after the first word), which is configured as
 \setuphead[chapter][

That shows me for not testing it properly.

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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9-11-2010 10:10, Herbert Voss wrote:

Am 09.11.2010 08:45, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:


Just do the following:

1.) extract http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/install/fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida.zip
into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/

2.) copy all *.pfb files into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/fonts/type1/bh/lucida

3.) run mktexlsr and mtxrun --generate


thanks, I did it with a new minimal,
but as I already posted:


define fonts  font with name LucidaBright is not found
define fonts  unknown font LucidaBright, loading aborted
define fonts  unable to define LucidaBright as \*lucida12ptrmtf*
define fonts  source file 'lbr' is not found
define fonts  unable to determine font format for ''
define fonts  source file 'lbd' is not found


it looks for yy filenames l??, but I have only pfb files
with filenames from adobe (bh)


it probably looks for afm files as mkiv does not use tfm files

are the afm files in your path?

(btw, those who bought original yandy variants can get the tug variants 
from tug for free)


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Re: [NTG-context] letter module, vertical offset of reference line

2010-11-09 Thread Florian Wobbe
On Nov 8, 2010, at 20:53 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 31.10.2010 um 11:16 schrieb Florian Wobbe:
 
 Can you make a example where this calculation goes wrong!
 
 Thanks! Of cause, a commented minimal example is attached.
 
 I have two problems and a wish:
 
 1) The reference line and the following subject line are placed too high.
 
 I uploaded a new version where you disable the automatic placement of the 
 reference line and the start of the letter text with
 
  \setupletterstyle[position=no] % default: position=yes
 
 [...]

Great, this works perfectly - thank you!

 3) It would be nice to have a bottomframe for the backaddress field that is 
 not longer than then the text itself.
 
 \setupletterstyle
  [reference][frame]
  [width=fit]

I meant the backaddress frame, though. This works analogously:

\setupletterstyle
  [backaddress][frame]
  [width=fit]

I have only on question left:

\setupletterstyle
  [reference]
  [alternative=e,
list={yourref,yourmail}, % Why is the trailing comma needed?
 % Without it, the reference line
 % vanishes completely.
  ]

Best wishes,
Florian

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Re: [NTG-context] linebreak in part title

2010-11-09 Thread Michael Goerz
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:26 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am 09.11.2010 um 00:30 schrieb Michael Goerz:
 I want part titles to appear on the own (empty) page, centered
 horizontally and vertically, and in small caps. To this end, I've set
 up the \part command as [...]

 \definefont[PartStyle][Caps sa 1]
 \setuphead
   [part]
   [placehead=yes,
    number=no,
    before={\startstandardmakeup[align={middle,lohi}]},
    after=\stopstandardmakeup,
    style=PartStyle,
   %align=middle,
   %page={yes,header,footer,right},
   %header=high,
   %footer=high,
    prefix=no]

Works great! I ended up with

\definefont[PartStyle][Caps sa 1]
\definepagebreak
  [mychapterpagebreak]
  [yes,header,right]
\setuphead[part]
  [placehead=yes,
   page=mychapterpagebreak,
   number=no,
   before={\startstandardmakeup[align={middle,lohi}]\switchtobodyfont[18pt]},
   after=\stopstandardmakeup,
   style=PartStyle,
   align=middle,
   prefix=no]

The only things I had to add were the mychapterpagebreak, which makes
sure the (left) page before the part title is empty, and the fontsize.

Thanks!

Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 You have to enable protrusion for natural tables your self with 
 „align=hanging“.
 
 Another solution for your problem is to use descriptions:

Thanks Wolfgang, I must remember align=hanging (had a similar problem with 
footnotes recently). Descriptions may be a way, but would it be possible to 
mimick my input syntax here:

\MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}

and define a description that will take 5 as closesymbol and Fa. as 
text? Otherwise, I'd need to define a description for every speaking 
character.

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Re: [NTG-context] First try with ConTeXt (Win7)

2010-11-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-11-09 um 12:27 schrieb Peter Davis:

I've used LaTeX for years, but I'm trying to work with ConTeXt now  
on a Win7 PC that has already had MikTeX 2.9 installed.
I've downloaded the minimal ZIP file, unpacked it and run the  
first_setup.bat file.
(Note, I don't have Ruby installed yet, so I can't use pdfTeX, but I  
assume some other build is available.)


Then I opened TeXworks, created a ConTeXt typesetting option,  
entered a helloworld.tex program, and tried to ConTeXt it.


Will you tell us anything about the settings you made in TeXworks?

Did you try to run context on the command line? (GUI setup is an  
additional complication)


This
MTXrun | resolvers: skipping configuration file 'C:/Users/peterd/ 
AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.9/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no file)
looks like there's MiKTeX in your (TeXwork's) PATH, but not ConTeXt's  
binaries.



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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 09.11.2010 10:10, schrieb Herbert Voss:
 Am 09.11.2010 08:45, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 it looks for yy filenames l??, but I have only pfb files
 with filenames from adobe (bh)

I renamed the files and get now:

...
load afm saving: lbl in cache
report | lua: compiling
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2722fb5579b835691c1495c9a8e6b040/fonts/afm/lbl.tma
into
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2722fb5579b835691c1495c9a8e6b040/fonts/afm/lbl.tmc
! LuaTeX error
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529: attempt to
index local 'rotcev' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529: in
function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:374
(tail call): ?
(tail call): ?
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:633: in
function 'read'
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:430: in
function 'stage_two'
main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.


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Re: [NTG-context] First try with ConTeXt (Win7)

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Davis
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Mojca Miklavec 
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:


 In the last tab of settings in TeXworks you should be able to adjust
 paths. Simply add the path to [context root]/texmf-mswin/bin to that
 list and put it on top.


That fixed it.  Thanks!


 Apart from that: ConTeXt should work under MikTeX 2.9 out of the bo.x
 (I reported some problems to CS; I have no idea if he fixed them, but
 all of them were solvable even without official fix of MikTeX, but I
 didn't try the latest version, I only tested the beta.)


I'm trying to shake out a workflow that will eventually be put on systems
that don't have MikTeX pre-installed, so I'd like to keep everything
dependent only on the minimal installation.

Thank you.

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[NTG-context] First try with ConTeXt (Win7)

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Davis
I've used LaTeX for years, but I'm trying to work with ConTeXt now on a Win7
PC that has already had MikTeX 2.9 installed.
I've downloaded the minimal ZIP file, unpacked it and run the
first_setup.bat file.
(Note, I don't have Ruby installed yet, so I can't use pdfTeX, but I assume
some other build is available.)

Then I opened TeXworks, created a ConTeXt typesetting option, entered a
helloworld.tex program, and tried to ConTeXt it.

However, I just get these messages:

MTXrun | forcing cache reload

MTXrun | resolvers: skipping configuration file
'C:/Users/peterd/AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.9/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no file)

MTXrun | resolvers

MTXrun | resolvers

MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated

MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'

MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'

MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-context.lua'

MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'

MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'


Any clues available?

Thanks!

-pd
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Re: [NTG-context] First try with ConTeXt (Win7)

2010-11-09 Thread Emmanuel Asante
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Mojca Miklavec 
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:27, Peter Davis wrote:
  I've used LaTeX for years, but I'm trying to work with ConTeXt now on a
 Win7
  PC that has already had MikTeX 2.9 installed.
  I've downloaded the minimal ZIP file, unpacked it and run the
  first_setup.bat file.
  (Note, I don't have Ruby installed yet, so I can't use pdfTeX, but I
 assume
  some other build is available.)
  Then I opened TeXworks, created a ConTeXt typesetting option, entered a
  helloworld.tex program, and tried to ConTeXt it.
  However, I just get these messages:
  MTXrun | forcing cache reload
 
  MTXrun | resolvers: skipping configuration file
  'C:/Users/peterd/AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.9/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no file)

 In the last tab of settings in TeXworks you should be able to adjust
 paths. Simply add the path to [context root]/texmf-mswin/bin to that
 list and put it on top.

 However note that if you will want to use LaTeX again, you will have
 to put that path lower than MikTeX's binary path again.

 Apart from that: ConTeXt should work under MikTeX 2.9 out of the bo.x
 (I reported some problems to CS; I have no idea if he fixed them, but
 all of them were solvable even without official fix of MikTeX, but I
 didn't try the latest version, I only tested the beta.)

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[NTG-context] No line break with math

2010-11-09 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi all,

I'm pretty sure this used to work not long time ago.

\starttext  \showframe
$a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k+l+m+n+o+p+q+r+s+t+u+v+w+x+y+z+a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k+l+m+n+o+p+q+r+s+t+u+v+w+x+y+z=$
\stoptext

Is there a fix?

Greeting
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 09.11.2010 um 10:19 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

 Oh, I forgot one important detail: I have protrusion enabled, so I need 
 protrusion for the main text (argument #2). This works with the low-level 
 approach, but not with the other ones, I think.

You have to enable protrusion for natural tables your self with „align=hanging“.

Another solution for your problem is to use descriptions:

\definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=quality]

\setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]

\setupinterlinespace[line=4.5ex]

\setupalign[hanging]

\starttext

\definedescription
  [Fa]
  [text=Fa.,
   width=1cm,
   command=\currentdescriptionlabel\gobbleoneargument,
   distance=0pt,
   title=yes,
  %style={\hsize10cm},
   closesymbol=\rlap{\quad\currentdescriptiontitle}]

\Fa{15} \input knuth\par

\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 09.11.2010 14:08, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 I have no idea what happens if Type1 version of fonts is not the same
 as described in afm files, but if you don't have all the necessary
 Type1 files that are absolutely needed for Math, it probably won't
 work anyway. I don't know enough of Lucida's history to provide more
 insight. What pfb files exactly do you have on your system?
 
 I would try to completely remove texmf-cache and then regenerate the
 filename database again (mtxrun --generate).

This works:

\starttypescript[lucida]
\definetypeface[\typescriptone][rm][serif]
[lucida][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[\typescriptone][ss][sans]
[lucida][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[\typescriptone][tt][mono]
[lucida][default][features=none]
\definetypeface[\typescriptone][cal][cal]
[lucida][default][features=default]

\definetypeface[\typescriptone][hw][handwriting][lucida][default][features=default]
\definetypeface[\typescriptone][mm][math]   [modern][default]
\stoptypescript

\setupbodyfont[lucida,11pt,rm]
%\input LoadLucida

\starttext
foo Lucida Bright \ss Lucida Sans Serif \tt Lucida Mono

\hw Handwriting

\cal Calligraphic

\stoptext

Is it a problem with the definitions for otf in type-otf.mkiv,
but using type1 instead of otf?

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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2010/11/9 Herbert Voss herbert.v...@fu-berlin.de:
 Am 09.11.2010 08:45, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 Just do the following:

 1.) extract 
 http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/install/fonts/psfonts/bh/lucida.zip
 into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/

 2.) copy all *.pfb files into /opt/context/texmf-fonts/fonts/type1/bh/lucida

 3.) run mktexlsr and mtxrun --generate

 thanks, I did it with a new minimal,
 but as I already posted:

 ...
 define fonts     font with name LucidaBright is not found
 define fonts     unknown font LucidaBright, loading aborted
 define fonts     unable to define LucidaBright as \*lucida12ptrmtf*
 define fonts     source file 'lbr' is not found
 define fonts     unable to determine font format for ''
 define fonts     source file 'lbd' is not found
 ...

 it looks for yy filenames l??, but I have only pfb files
 with filenames from adobe (bh)

Below is the list of files that ConTeXt assumes are present and which
are supported by TUG's package for LaTeX (pfb files are to be bought,
while afm are downloaded from CTAN).

I have no idea what happens if Type1 version of fonts is not the same
as described in afm files, but if you don't have all the necessary
Type1 files that are absolutely needed for Math, it probably won't
work anyway. I don't know enough of Lucida's history to provide more
insight. What pfb files exactly do you have on your system?

I would try to completely remove texmf-cache and then regenerate the
filename database again (mtxrun --generate).

Mojca

List of font files (apart from vf, tfm, map, enc ... files):

fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbc.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbd.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbdi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbdsc.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbh.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbki.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbkr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbl.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbma.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmad.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmd.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmdi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmdo.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbme.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmo.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbms.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbmsd.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbrsc.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbsl.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbtb.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbtbo.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbto.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lbtr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lfd.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lfdi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lfi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lfr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsb.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsbi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsd.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsdi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsi.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsr.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lstb.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lstbo.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lsto.pfb
fonts/type1/bh/lucida/lstr.pfb

fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbc.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbd.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbdi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbdsc.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbh.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbki.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbkr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbl.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbma.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmad.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmatex.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmd.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmdi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmdo.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbme.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmetex.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmitex.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmo.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmotex.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbms.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmsd.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbmstex.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbrsc.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbsl.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbtb.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbtbo.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbto.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lbtr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lfd.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lfdi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lfi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lfr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsb.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsbi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsd.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsdi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsi.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsr.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lstb.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lstbo.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lsto.afm
fonts/afm/bh/lucida/lstr.afm
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Re: [NTG-context] letter module, vertical offset of reference line

2010-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 09.11.2010 um 11:09 schrieb Florian Wobbe:

 3) It would be nice to have a bottomframe for the backaddress field that is 
 not longer than then the text itself.
 
 \setupletterstyle
 [reference][frame]
 [width=fit]
 
 I meant the backaddress frame, though. This works analogously:

Just a typo, i wanted the backaddress too.

 \setupletterstyle
  [backaddress][frame]
  [width=fit]
 
 I have only on question left:
 
 \setupletterstyle
  [reference]
  [alternative=e,
list={yourref,yourmail}, % Why is the trailing comma needed?
 % Without it, the reference line
 % vanishes completely.
  ]

A side effect from context how it reads key-val-settings,
the two setting

   \setupfoo[key=value]

and

   \setupfoo[key=value ]

are different. In the first setup the argument for the key
is „value“ while in the second it is „value “ with a space
at the end, because of this you need the comma after
the right brace.

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Re: [NTG-context] First try with ConTeXt (Win7)

2010-11-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:27, Peter Davis wrote:
 I've used LaTeX for years, but I'm trying to work with ConTeXt now on a Win7
 PC that has already had MikTeX 2.9 installed.
 I've downloaded the minimal ZIP file, unpacked it and run the
 first_setup.bat file.
 (Note, I don't have Ruby installed yet, so I can't use pdfTeX, but I assume
 some other build is available.)
 Then I opened TeXworks, created a ConTeXt typesetting option, entered a
 helloworld.tex program, and tried to ConTeXt it.
 However, I just get these messages:
 MTXrun | forcing cache reload

 MTXrun | resolvers: skipping configuration file
 'C:/Users/peterd/AppData/Roaming/MiKTeX/2.9/web2c/texmfcnf.lua' (no file)

In the last tab of settings in TeXworks you should be able to adjust
paths. Simply add the path to [context root]/texmf-mswin/bin to that
list and put it on top.

However note that if you will want to use LaTeX again, you will have
to put that path lower than MikTeX's binary path again.

Apart from that: ConTeXt should work under MikTeX 2.9 out of the bo.x
(I reported some problems to CS; I have no idea if he fixed them, but
all of them were solvable even without official fix of MikTeX, but I
didn't try the latest version, I only tested the beta.)

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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 09.11.2010 14:08, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 it looks for yy filenames l??, but I have only pfb files
 with filenames from adobe (bh)
 
 Below is the list of files that ConTeXt assumes are present and which
 are supported by TUG's package for LaTeX (pfb files are to be bought,
 while afm are downloaded from CTAN).
 
 I have no idea what happens if Type1 version of fonts is not the same
 as described in afm files, but if you don't have all the necessary
 Type1 files that are absolutely needed for Math, it probably won't
 work anyway. I don't know enough of Lucida's history to provide more
 insight. What pfb files exactly do you have on your system?

now I renamed all files to teh yy ones.

 I would try to completely remove texmf-cache and then regenerate the
 filename database again (mtxrun --generate).

also done. The font files are now found, but I always get a
luatex error with latest minimal

...
load afm saving: lbl in cache
report | lua: compiling
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2722fb5579b835691c1495c9a8e6b040/fonts/afm/lbl.tma
into
/opt/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2722fb5579b835691c1495c9a8e6b040/fonts/afm/lbl.tmc
! LuaTeX error
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529: attempt to
index local 'rotcev' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529: in
function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:374
(tail call): ?
(tail call): ?
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:633: in
function 'read'
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:430: in
function 'stage_two'
main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.

system   error on line 1 in file .ctx: LuaTeX error  ...

 1   \setupbodyfont[lucida,11pt,rm]


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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Ouch!

Actually, Lucida worked with 2010.10.21 23:27 MKIV, but is broken in
2010.11.03 19:42 MKIV.

I now see that I get the same error as you do:

! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529:
attempt to index local 'rotcev' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:529: in
function ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-vfu.lua:374
(tail call): ?
(tail call): ?
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:633: in 
function 'read'
...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:430: in
function 'stage_two'
main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.

system   error on line 1 in file luc.tex: LuaTeX error  ...

Hans?

2010/11/9 Herbert Voss wrote:
 Am 09.11.2010 14:08, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:

 Is it a problem with the definitions for otf in type-otf.mkiv,
 but using type1 instead of otf?

type-otf.mkiv is just a filename. The otf is partially there for
historic reasons and doesn't imply that only OpenType fonts should be
defined there, even though this is true for almost all fonts listed
there.

Typescripts for Lucida define the Type1 fonts. Your definition may
solve the problem temporary, but most probably won't use the proper
glyphs as soon as you try to compile a slightly more complex document.

This needs to be fixed in ConTeXt. I'm sorry for not noticing earlier.
I knew that I happily compiled a document with Lucida yesterday, but I
didn't have the latest ConTeXt installed.

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 09.11.2010 um 16:05 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

 Thanks Wolfgang, I must remember align=hanging (had a similar problem with 
 footnotes recently). Descriptions may be a way, but would it be possible to 
 mimick my input syntax here:
 
 \MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}
 
 and define a description that will take 5 as closesymbol and Fa. as 
 text? Otherwise, I'd need to define a description for every speaking 
 character.


Another solution:

\setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]

\setupinterlinespace[line=4.5ex]

\setupalign[hanging]

\defineitemgroup[myline][width=1cm,symstyle=bold]

\define[3]\MyLine
  {\startmyline\hsize=7cm
   \sym{#2}#3\wordright[2em]{#1}%
   \stopmyline}

\starttext

\MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}

\MyLine{12}{Ma.}{\input knuth }

\MyLine{8}{Pa.}{\input ward }

\stoptext

When you’re going to use this for a long document i suggest an alternative 
method for the input:

\MyLine[lines=...,speaker=...] ... \par

and

\startMyLine[lines=...,speaker=...]
...
\stopMyLine

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 09.11.2010 um 16:05 schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz:

 
 On Nov 9, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 You have to enable protrusion for natural tables your self with 
 „align=hanging“.
 
 Another solution for your problem is to use descriptions:
 
 Thanks Wolfgang, I must remember align=hanging (had a similar problem with 
 footnotes recently). Descriptions may be a way, but would it be possible to 
 mimick my input syntax here:
 
 \MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}
 
 and define a description that will take 5 as closesymbol and Fa. as 
 text? Otherwise, I'd need to define a description for every speaking 
 character.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Purpose of backend (export=yes)

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 8-11-2010 3:52, Vladimir Lomov wrote:


I compiled them with context (mkIV, context minimal) and got
ex{1,2,3}.export. I thought that I get not only the document content but
also its logical structure (for example some markup for font switching).


Bold in itself is not structure so best tag it as (e.g.) important:

\setupbackend[export=yes]

\definestartstop[important][style=bold]

\starttext

This is second example.
This time we try to use font switching mechanism:
This is normal, but this \important{one is bold}. Normal again.

\stoptext


Is it true that 'backend' only output document content not its logic
strcuture? Does it work with math? The third example gives for math only
not letters.


Math becomes:

 This is inline formula
  math
mrow
  mi퐸/mi
  mo=/mo
  mi푚/mi
  msup
mi푐/mi
mn2/mn
  /msup
/mrow
  /math
.
  break/
 This is display formula
  formula
formulacontent
  math
mrow
  mi 퐸/mi
  mo=/mo
  mi푚/mi
  msup
mi푐/mi
mn2/mn
  /msup
/mrow
  /math
/formulacontent
  /formula


I attached the resulted export files.

P.S. Then I saw the announce about 'backend'  'export=yes' I thought
that context would be good tool for notes. I imagine that I could wrote
a text file and make from it either pdf (for printing/screening) or html
(for screening) or may be convert xml (using existing tools and
methods) to other formats (rtf/odt/xhtml) that would contain math,
images, tables. But seems that I was wrong or this will be in future
of the backend?


indeed it should be possible to use context that way and afaik the 
export is already quite okay (you might need a recent luatex as there 
have been issues with attributes in math mode that were sorted out a 
while ago)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Lucida

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi Mojca,


Ouch!


Indeed.


Hans?


Before I do an upload, can you check the beta on the ftp server?

(In the process of documenting cld etc I clean up some code so there 
might be typos.)


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[NTG-context] Formula not in \displaystyle

2010-11-09 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi again,

consider the following example:

\startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
\startformula
  \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}
\stopformula
\stopTEXpage

The output is not in \displaystyle.

Greeting
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Re: [NTG-context] problems with vertical spacing and boxes

2010-11-09 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On Nov 9, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 Another solution:
 
 \setupbodyfont[termes,12pt]
 
 \setupinterlinespace[line=4.5ex]
 
 \setupalign[hanging]
 
 \defineitemgroup[myline][width=1cm,symstyle=bold]
 
 \define[3]\MyLine
  {\startmyline\hsize=7cm
   \sym{#2}#3\wordright[2em]{#1}%
   \stopmyline}
 
 \starttext
 
 \MyLine{5}{Fa.}{This line is short.}
 
 \MyLine{12}{Ma.}{\input knuth }
 
 \MyLine{8}{Pa.}{\input ward }
 
 \stoptext
 
 When you’re going to use this for a long document i suggest an alternative 
 method for the input:
 
 \MyLine[lines=...,speaker=...] ... \par
 
 and
 
 \startMyLine[lines=...,speaker=...]
 ...
 \stopMyLine
 
 Wolfgang

Yes, this looks good! I use the macro in a slightly more complex situation, so 
my real syntax is

\MyLine[number][yes|no][Speaker]{line content}

where yes|no determines whether the number should be displayed or not and the 
third argument (the speaker) is optional; it it's there, it will be typeset in 
the space at the beginning of the line. Complex, but makes it easy to read my 
source...

Thanks!

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[NTG-context] [OT] ConTeXt-ified LaTeX (Interfaces)

2010-11-09 Thread Mojca Miklavec
http://tug.org/svn/texlive?view=revisionrevision=20235
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/interfaces/

(I don't like the layout, but the idea is interesting.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Formula not in \displaystyle

2010-11-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Andreas Harder wrote:


consider the following example:

\startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
\startformula
 \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}
\stopformula
\stopTEXpage

The output is not in \displaystyle.


Works here with MkII and MkIV (on the month old 2010.10.14)

Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] Formula not in \displaystyle

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Am 09.11.2010 18:49, schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
 On Tue, 9 Nov 2010, Andreas Harder wrote:
 
 consider the following example:

 \startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
 \startformula
  \lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}
 \stopformula
 \stopTEXpage

 The output is not in \displaystyle.
 
 Works here with MkII and MkIV (on the month old 2010.10.14)

and not with
MTXrun | current version: 2010.11.03 19:42

Herbert
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[NTG-context] \switchtobodyfont

2010-11-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Is this the default behaviour, that \switchtobodyfont works
like a \hfill??  | page |

\starttext
Latin Modern
\switchtobodyfont[pagella]Pagella--Palatino
\stoptext

| Latin ModernPag-|
| ella|

Latest minimal mkiv

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Re: [NTG-context] \switchtobodyfont

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9-11-2010 8:49, Herbert Voss wrote:

Is this the default behaviour, that \switchtobodyfont works
like a \hfill??  | page |

\starttext
Latin Modern
\switchtobodyfont[pagella]Pagella--Palatino
\stoptext

| Latin ModernPag-|
| ella|

Latest minimal mkiv


in this case font definitions are loaded for the first time and as 
typescript (or whatever) can have spaces and newlines and since you do 
it in horizontal mode, you get something


Latin Modern spacespacespacespacespace...spacePagella

and space can stretch


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Re: [NTG-context] \switchtobodyfont

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9-11-2010 8:49, Herbert Voss wrote:

Is this the default behaviour, that \switchtobodyfont works
like a \hfill??  | page |

\starttext
Latin Modern
\switchtobodyfont[pagella]Pagella--Palatino
\stoptext

| Latin ModernPag-|
| ella|

Latest minimal mkiv


btw, you can do:

Latin Modern \switchtobodyfont[pagella]\removeunwantedspaces\space 
Pagella--Palatino


but normally there will be a

\setupbodyfont[pagella]

at the top

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Re: [NTG-context] No line break with math

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 9-11-2010 2:23, Andreas Harder wrote:

Hi all,

I'm pretty sure this used to work not long time ago.

\starttext  \showframe
$a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k+l+m+n+o+p+q+r+s+t+u+v+w+x+y+z+a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k+l+m+n+o+p+q+r+s+t+u+v+w+x+y+z=$
\stoptext

Is there a fix?


i'm puzzled as the penalties and char classes are right

(i have to discuss it with taco)

Hans

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[NTG-context] [OT] QTeXEngine

2010-11-09 Thread John Haltiwanger
Apparently this software enables exporting of QTPainter classes to Tikz/Pgf

http://soft.proindependent.com/qtexengine/
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[NTG-context] XSL-FO to PDF?

2010-11-09 Thread Peter Davis
Is there some recent information on using XML, and specifically XSL-FO, with
ConTeXt?  The pages on the contextgarden wiki appear to be 5 years old or
more, and even the archive of this list seem pretty sparse on recent
information.

I'm trying to find the most direct route from XSL-FO to PS or PDF. I'll be
generating hundreds or thousands of XSL-FO documents, and would like to
process them.

Thank you.

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Re: [NTG-context] XSL-FO to PDF?

2010-11-09 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Peter Davis p...@pfdstudio.com wrote:
 Is there some recent information on using XML, and specifically XSL-FO, with
 ConTeXt?  The pages on the contextgarden wiki appear to be 5 years old or
 more, and even the archive of this list seem pretty sparse on recent
 information.
 I'm trying to find the most direct route from XSL-FO to PS or PDF. I'll be
 generating hundreds or thousands of XSL-FO documents, and would like to
 process them.
 Thank you.
batik

http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/batik/
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Re: [NTG-context] XSL-FO to PDF?

2010-11-09 Thread Hans Hagen

On 10-11-2010 12:22, Peter Davis wrote:

Is there some recent information on using XML, and specifically XSL-FO, with
ConTeXt?  The pages on the contextgarden wiki appear to be 5 years old or
more, and even the archive of this list seem pretty sparse on recent
information.

I'm trying to find the most direct route from XSL-FO to PS or PDF. I'll be
generating hundreds or thousands of XSL-FO documents, and would like to
process them.


there was never much interest in FO and usually such code only gets 
better when it's used; I have it on my todo list to rewrite the mkii 
specific FO processing code in mkiv as it can be done more efficient etc 
etc but there is not that much incentive ... in projects that I'm 
involved in we normally go directly from xml to pdf simply because it's 
faster, gives better results and takes less coding than going the 
fo-route; and as FO is not that much fun, I'd either need a project or 
see it as a challenge (btw, it's not that big a deal to rewrite the mkii 
code to mkiv)


Hans


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[NTG-context] Subject marking in MkIV

2010-11-09 Thread Aditya Mahajan

Hi

I was trying to answer a question on tex.stackexchange 
(http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5166/) when I noticed that marking 
does not work the same way in MkIV as it did in MkII. Consider the 
following minimal example:


\startsetups footer
  \getmarking[subject][first]\space - \getmarking[subject][last]\space - 
\pagenumber

\stopsetups

\setupfootertexts[][\setups{footer}]

\starttext
\subject{One}  \input knuth
\subject{Two}  \input knuth
\subject{Three}\input knuth
\subject{Four} \input knuth
\stoptext

In MkII I get One - Three - 1 in the footer of the first page. In MkIV, 
the subject markings are missing. I think that the reason is that for non 
numbered heads, section key is not set in \definestructurehead, so no 
marking gets defined for them.


What is the easiest way to enable subject marking in MkIV?

I am using an old beta from 2010.10.14 but I do not think that anything 
this fundamental has changed in the last month.


Aditya
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