Re: [NTG-context] [texhax] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-18 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Peter Davis wrote: I've been on the periphery of TeX for years, as a casual user of LaTeX and also as an implementer of publishing software. However, I'm afraid I haven't kept in as close touch as I'd like, and now I find myself trying to absorb a lot in a short time. I'm trying to choose

Re: [NTG-context] [texhax] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Isambert
Selon Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk: Peter Davis wrote: 2. True or False: plain TeX and LaTeX(2e) are warhorses ... been around for decades, quirks well known, lots of documentation, etc. Yes, except that while Plain TeX has more-or-less remained static

Re: [NTG-context] [texhax] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 17-11-2010 11:06, Paul Isambert wrote: Philip, plain TeX isn't exactly mainstream anymore, and ConTeXt probably beats it on this point. And ConTeXt is already more than 15 years old, so it's not so new, although it does keep moving. fyi, there are two versions of context: - mkii is a

Re: [NTG-context] \definenamespace (was: The visual counter module)

2010-11-18 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-11-18 04:56:27, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 18.11.2010 um 01:36 schrieb Philipp Gesang: Hi Wolfgang, of course you are always welcome to deliver this kind of thorough discussion! The wiki is grateful … Just two keys remain unexplained: “version” and “comment”. I guess

Re: [NTG-context] Ugly bug with TikZ in recent ConTeXt MKIV

2010-11-18 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:48, Hans Hagen wrote: On 18-11-2010 12:00, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Dear Hans, The following example worked perfectly fine with the version of ConTeXt MKIV I was using one hour ago (no idea which version, but something less than two weeks old). It still works OK with

[NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
Nice http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Module_Namespaces Can I register lscarso[a-zA-Z]* ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-11-18 10:13:07, luigi scarso wrote: Nice http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Module_Namespaces Can I register lscarso[a-zA-Z]* ? Maybe we should consider an auction; in the future this could get as busy as trading domain names. Philipp -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] Ugly bug with TikZ in recent ConTeXt MKIV

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 18-11-2010 10:03, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:48, Hans Hagen wrote: On 18-11-2010 12:00, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Dear Hans, The following example worked perfectly fine with the version of ConTeXt MKIV I was using one hour ago (no idea which version, but something less

[NTG-context] Scaling with \filterpages not working?

2010-11-18 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .
Hello, I'm trying similar code as described on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Including_pages_from_PDF_document: --- \starttext \filterpages[1.pdf][2][width=15cm] \page \filterpages[1.pdf][2][width=5cm] \stoptext --- But I'm still getting the same picture - scaled to (probably)

Re: [NTG-context] ppchtex questions

2010-11-18 Thread Jörg Hagmann
Hi Alan, Thanks for the explanations. Try style=sans. We also have color= and rulecolor=. syle=sans works, but not for aligned atoms, e.g. \SL{OH}; a bug? For the time being, I can use \SL{\ss OH}. There are some problems still in mkiv, notably with CARBON, NEWMANSTAGGER, NEWMANECLIPSE,

Re: [NTG-context] ppchtex questions

2010-11-18 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Thursday 18 November 2010 10:54:23 Jörg Hagmann wrote: syle=sans works, but not for aligned atoms, e.g. \SL{OH}; a bug? For the time being, I can use \SL{\ss OH}. There are indeed bugs in the use of \SL{} under mkiv. For example, one currently needs to use \SL{\small CH$_2$} rather

Re: [NTG-context] Ugly bug with TikZ in recent ConTeXt MKIV

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca, Can you test the beta on the ftp server and see if tikz works better? (I hate this kind of patching as it is a work around assumptions that are somewhat wrong, in this case the fact that nullfont has zero parameters, and it makes the mkiv code messier.) Hans

Re: [NTG-context] [texhax] Choosing TeX um ... stuff

2010-11-18 Thread Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Paul Isambert wrote: And plain TeX doesn't have a lot of documentation. Anyway there isn't much to document. Basically using plain TeX means you need a very good knowledge of the engine, and you'll write tons of macros (in a way there are no plain TeX users, only users of personal

[NTG-context] Defining a command for enumeration+block

2010-11-18 Thread Glen Callaghan
Hello, I'm having some problems using blocks and enumeration together. I can get it to work using something like this (see complete minimal example further down): \beginBlock \startEnum Some text A \stopEnum \endBlock But it doesn't seem to work if

[NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Starks
Hello, Whenever I compile a document, it appears that mtxrun and simple fonts must rebuild/remake/generate every time. mtxrun starts off with: MTXrun | warning: source mismatch (luv: 144e2249a1a87cb1144311e3cfb4f0e1 bin: 40142b7d400e559a49cf2e9f12599280), forcing remake It appears to not

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Andrew Starks andrew.sta...@trms.com wrote: Hello, Whenever I compile a document, it appears that mtxrun and simple fonts must rebuild/remake/generate every time. mtxrun starts off with: Uh, this is the same problem that I have when I cross-compile luatex

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread Taco Hoekwater
On 11/18/2010 12:30 PM, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Andrew Starksandrew.sta...@trms.com wrote: Hello, Whenever I compile a document, it appears that mtxrun and simple fonts must rebuild/remake/generate every time. mtxrun starts off with: Uh, this is the same problem

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: On 11/18/2010 12:30 PM, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Andrew Starksandrew.sta...@trms.com  wrote: Hello, Whenever I compile a document, it appears that mtxrun and simple fonts must

[NTG-context] Help Winedt 6.0 MikTeX 2.9 ConTeXt

2010-11-18 Thread barney schwartz
MikTeX 2.9 says ConTeXt is once more available. Winedt 6.0 provides a drop-down menu However, ConTeXt fails to execute. I having been waiting sin MikTeX dropped ConteXt support and was SO happy to see it included once again. Anyone got any ideas how to make ConTeXt functional using MikTeX 2.9

Re: [NTG-context] Scaling with \filterpages not working?

2010-11-18 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 18.11.2010 10:53, schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.: Hello, I'm trying similar code as described on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Including_pages_from_PDF_document: --- \starttext \filterpages[1.pdf][2][width=15cm] \page \filterpages[1.pdf][2][width=5cm]

Re: [NTG-context] Scaling with \filterpages not working?

2010-11-18 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Nov 18 2010, Peter Rolf wrote: \setuplayout[fullpage] fullpage is not needed. There is already \setuplayout[page]. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question

Re: [NTG-context] Scaling with \filterpages not working?

2010-11-18 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .
Thank you, this works nicely. Lukas On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:12:36 +0100, Peter Rolf indi...@gmx.net wrote: Am 18.11.2010 10:53, schrieb Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o.: Hello, I'm trying similar code as described on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Including_pages_from_PDF_document:

Re: [NTG-context] MetaPost version of the Gantt chart module

2010-11-18 Thread Florian Wobbe
On Nov 12, 2010, at 19:38 , Reviczky, Adam wrote: Hi, I've made a MetaPost version for creating Gantt charts. Florian: The label alignments are fixed in this module. Further, it should be trivial to place the names into the ganttbars, for both versions. Thanks! Yes you are right,

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:50 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 18-11-2010 12:22, Andrew Starks wrote: Hello, Whenever I compile a document, it appears that mtxrun and simple fonts must rebuild/remake/generate

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 18-11-2010 5:13, luigi scarso wrote: OK, now I have the same binaries but a engine mismatch: MTXrun | warning: engine mismatch (luv: This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.64.0-2010111618 (rev 3961)  bin: This is LuaTe , Version

Re: [NTG-context] Ugly bug with TikZ in recent ConTeXt MKIV

2010-11-18 Thread Vedran Miletić
2010/11/18 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl After some tracing and hard thinking Taco and I found interesting spaces showing up in the output that result from a kludge in tikz: Normally one will use \ignorespaces to catch spurious spaces but tikz invokes \nullfont assuming that its fontdimen 2 is

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:38 PM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 18-11-2010 5:13, luigi scarso wrote: OK, now I have the same binaries but a engine mismatch: MTXrun | warning: engine mismatch (luv: This is

Re: [NTG-context] Ugly bug with TikZ in recent ConTeXt MKIV

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 18-11-2010 5:56, Vedran Miletić wrote: 2010/11/18 Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl After some tracing and hard thinking Taco and I found interesting spaces showing up in the output that result from a kludge in tikz: Normally one will use \ignorespaces to catch spurious spaces but tikz invokes

Re: [NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.11.2010 um 02:20 schrieb Jonas Stein: Hi, i would like to write an FAQ for maritime distress radio. The spoken words and the variables should be highlighted in a nice way. What would you suggest me to do in context? My first idea a bracket or stacked words like this example:

Re: [NTG-context] Defining a command for enumeration+block

2010-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.11.2010 um 12:15 schrieb Glen Callaghan: Hello, I'm having some problems using blocks and enumeration together. I can get it to work using something like this (see complete minimal example further down): \beginBlock \startEnum Some text A \stopEnum

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.11.2010 um 10:13 schrieb luigi scarso: Nice http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Module_Namespaces Can I register lscarso[a-zA-Z]* ? Why? The obvious method is to use the same name for the namespace as you use for your module name or the command names, e.g. the fancybreak module has the

Re: [NTG-context] Gnuplot module: Patching of Gnuplot binary still needed?

2010-11-18 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Montag, den 15.11.2010, 12:29 +0100 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 23:04, Paul Menzel wrote: I read about the Gnuplot module [1] and I am wondering whether patching the Gnuplot binary is still necessary. Yes. Can you please send the same message to the gnuplot

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 18.11.2010 um 10:13 schrieb luigi scarso: Nice http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Module_Namespaces Can I register lscarso[a-zA-Z]* ? Why? The obvious method is to use the same name for the namespace

Re: [NTG-context] font, line spacing issues

2010-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.11.2010 um 01:25 schrieb Peter Davis: As an experiment, I'm trying to duplicate a sample InDesign document with ConTeXt. I'm getting the overall layout (though my image positions need tweaking), but I'm having some problems with the fonts. I'm following the examples in

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: (there is no need to use capitals). Thanks. Old habits die hard. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

[NTG-context] minimal update

2010-11-18 Thread Herbert Voss
When I update my minimal via the script first-setup.sh new files in the directory /tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user are deleted. If I understand the name correct, then the script should keep files in this directory Herbert

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: (there is no need to use capitals). Thanks. Old habits die hard. Camel case is not bad at all --- it's a matter of points of view -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] \definenamespace (was: The visual counter module)

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: I’m not Aditya but i hope you will also accept my explanation. This is a much better explanation than I could have written. Just a few points: I will start with the first argument and the „type“ key, e.g. \definenamespace [fancybreak]

[NTG-context] [OT] Adobe Reader X released

2010-11-18 Thread Vedran Miletić
Adobe silently released Reader X, for now only for Windows. It can be downloaded from: http://www.adobe.com/go/EN_US-H-GET-READER Installer for offline installation can be downloaded from. ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/10.x/10.0.0/en_US/ It allows saving PDF after adding comments or

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 18-11-2010 10:19, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Aditya Mahajanadit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: (there is no need to use capitals). Thanks. Old habits die hard. Camel case is not bad at all --- it's a matter of points of view

Re: [NTG-context] minimal update

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 18-11-2010 10:14, Herbert Voss wrote: When I update my minimal via the script first-setup.sh new files in the directory /tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user are deleted. If I understand the name correct, then the script should keep files in this directory don't use texmf or texmf-context for

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 18-11-2010 10:19, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Aditya Mahajanadit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: (there is no need to use capitals). Thanks. Old habits die hard. Camel case is not bad

Re: [NTG-context] Module Namespaces

2010-11-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 18-11-2010 10:48, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Hans Hagen wrote: On 18-11-2010 10:19, luigi scarso wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Aditya Mahajanadit...@umich.edu wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: (there is no need to use capitals). Thanks.

Re: [NTG-context] Defining a command for enumeration+block

2010-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.11.2010 um 22:44 schrieb Glen Callaghan: Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks. When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below). I can

Re: [NTG-context] font, line spacing issues

2010-11-18 Thread Peter Davis
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 18.11.2010 um 01:25 schrieb Peter Davis: As an experiment, I'm trying to duplicate a sample InDesign document with ConTeXt. I'm getting the overall layout (though my image positions need

[NTG-context] Metafont usage

2010-11-18 Thread Martin 'golodhrim' Scholz
Hi List, hi Hans, I want to use the open source MetaFont for suetterlin and schwellbacher in a document, is there somewhere a guide where to put them and how to load them in ConTeXt or could they be included into the ConTeXt tree. If I get a hint how I would also provide a .map

Re: [NTG-context] Gnuplot module: Patching of Gnuplot binary still needed?

2010-11-18 Thread Florian Wobbe
On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:47 , Mojca Miklavec wrote: [...] Here is a brief list of changes to the gnuplot CVS version: * support for ConTeXt and plain TeX Hurray! Thanks a lot. * removed dependencies for LaTeX packages other than TikZ * needs TikZ Version = 2.0 * better support for

Re: [NTG-context] \definenamespace (was: The visual counter module)

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: \nameparameter use the value from \currentname while \namednameparameter has two argument where the first argument is the name of a command or environment created with \definename. \detokenized... is important when you pass values from tex to lua

Re: [NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-18 Thread Jonas Stein
\usemodule[ruby] \setupruby[align=center] \starttext THIS IS \ruby{TITANIC}{MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY} TITANIC TITANIC \stoptext The example does not work here. Will i have to install ruby manual on debian testing? I could not find information about the ruby module -- Jonas Stein

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Starks
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that  I  need also to delete luatex.dll Doing so all things go well -- luigi ___ Wish I had a luatex.dll to delete. :( ;)

Re: [NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Jonas Stein wrote: \usemodule[ruby] \setupruby[align=center] \starttext THIS IS \ruby{TITANIC}{MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY} TITANIC TITANIC \stoptext The example does not work here. Will i have to install ruby manual on debian testing? I could not find information about

Re: [NTG-context] stack words for explanation

2010-11-18 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Jonas Stein wrote: \usemodule[ruby] \setupruby[align=center] \starttext THIS IS \ruby{TITANIC}{MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY} TITANIC TITANIC \stoptext The example does not work here. Will i have to install ruby manual on debian

Re: [NTG-context] Defining a command for enumeration+block

2010-11-18 Thread Glen Callaghan
Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks. When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below). I can reproduce this but for mkiv (context file) the output

Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Starks andrew.sta...@trms.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that  I  need also to delete luatex.dll Doing so all things go well -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] Is the chart module broken?

2010-11-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Op woensdag 3 nov 2010 19:41 CET schreef Hans Hagen: In the past I have used the chart module for a little flow chart in a presentation. I wanted to make again flow charts. But I did not get it working. I just compiled my old version again, but this does not work also. The chart is drawn, but

Re: [NTG-context] Is the chart module broken?

2010-11-18 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Op woensdag 3 nov 2010 19:41 CET schreef Hans Hagen: In the past I have used the chart module for a little flow chart in a presentation. I wanted to make again flow charts. But I did not get it working. I just compiled my old version again, but this does not work also. The chart is drawn, but