Re: [NTG-context] Hairline in header

2011-01-11 Thread Florian Wobbe
 how can I move the thinrule further up in this example? I'd like to use 
 \thinrule but still want the position like this:
 
 \setupheader[text][after=\hrule]
 
 
 Hi Florian,
 
 Maybe this can help you.
 
 \setuplayout[header=1cm,headerdistance=1cm]
 \setupheader[text][after=\vskip-0.8em\thinrule]
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{12}{\input knuth\par}
 \stoptext

Thanks, that works. I wonder if you can configure this with \setupthinrules.
\setupthinrules[before=\vskip-0.8em] does no work.

Florian

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Re: [NTG-context] \setupinterlinespace questions

2011-01-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 10.01.2011 um 22:57 schrieb Florian Wobbe:

 b) Is there a possibility to use relative sizes like 
 \setupinterlinespace[2*big] (which does not work)?
 
 You can write \setupinterlinespace[3].
 
 Thanks!
 
 Why can't I put \setupinterlinespace[3] or \setupinterlinespace[big] in the 
 preamble? They only take effect inside \start... \stop...
 
 \setupinterlinespace is reset with \starttext, when you don’t like
 setup-commands after \starttext use \startproduct.
 
 Hmm, does not seem to work here. I have following setup:
 
 \environment env_draft % -- setting \setupinterlinespace[big] here
 \startproduct
 %\setupinterlinespace[big] % works except for references when uncommented

\startproduct filenename

\environment env_draft

\setupinterlinespace % can be moved to the environment file

 \input chapters
 \usepublications[publications]
 \placepublications
 \stopproduct
 
 \placepublications seems to reset linespacing as well.

Can you make a example.

BTW: \startproduct takes the filename as argument, please add it.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Hairline in header

2011-01-11 Thread 李延瑞
2011/1/11 Florian Wobbe florian.wo...@awi.de:
 how can I move the thinrule further up in this example? I'd like to use 
 \thinrule but still want the position like this:

 \setupheader[text][after=\hrule]


 Hi Florian,

 Maybe this can help you.

 \setuplayout[header=1cm,headerdistance=1cm]
 \setupheader[text][after=\vskip-0.8em\thinrule]
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{12}{\input knuth\par}
 \stoptext

 Thanks, that works. I wonder if you can configure this with \setupthinrules.
 \setupthinrules[before=\vskip-0.8em] does no work.


Hm, if you use:
\setupthinrules[n=1, before=\vskip-0.8em]
\setupheader[text][after=\thinrules]

it can work.

However ConTeXt advises to use \blank instead of \vskip, for example:

\setupthinrules[n=1, before={\blank[-0.8em]}]
\setupheader[text][after=\thinrules]

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Best regards,

Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
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Re: [NTG-context] Hairline in header

2011-01-11 Thread Florian Wobbe
 Thanks, that works. I wonder if you can configure this with \setupthinrules.
 \setupthinrules[before=\vskip-0.8em] does no work.
 
 
 Hm, if you use:
 \setupthinrules[n=1, before=\vskip-0.8em]
 \setupheader[text][after=\thinrules]
 
 it can work.
 
 However ConTeXt advises to use \blank instead of \vskip, for example:
 
 \setupthinrules[n=1, before={\blank[-0.8em]}]
 \setupheader[text][after=\thinrules]

This works, thank you!

Florian

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 06:00, Norbert Preining wrote:
 Hi Aditya, hi all,

 On Mo, 10 Jan 2011, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 Assuming that Norbert packaged ConTeXt package in debian testing, I am
 CCing this message to him.

 So it seems that current Context has changed something, anyone can help
 me here?

 Up to now I did:
        export TEXMFCNF=/usr/share/texmf/web2c
        luatools --generate --verbose
 after which everything was working.

 Now I get:
 [~] luatools --generate --verbose

 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '.'
 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to '/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
 MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to '/usr'

Hans, TEXOS cannot be /usr for various reasons.

 MTXrun | resolvers
 MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
 MTXrun | resolvers
 MTXrun | forcing cache reload
 MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
 MTXrun | resolvers
 MTXrun | resolvers
 MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
 MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
 MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
 MTXrun | resolvers: remembering file 'mtx-base.lua'
 MTXrun | resolvers: using suffix based filetype 'lua'
 MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'

 BTW, why does this mtxrun not *SAY* what file it is searching for???

texmfcnf.lua, but I cannot answer the why part.

 Just
        warning: no lua configuration files found
 is as useful as ... welll ... I stop here.


 In /usr/share/texmf/web2c/ there is a contextcnf.lua which looks like:
 return {

    type    = configuration,
    version = 1.0.2,
    date    = 2010-06-07,
    time    = 14:49:00,
    comment = ConTeXt MkIV configuration file,
 

 Is there something missing?

It should probably be called texmfcnf.lua instead of contextcnf.lua.
And there's also a high chance that the settings in that file are
wrong if you just took the file from distribution. The settings should
somehow match the contents in texmf.cnf.

(What version of ConTeXt is this?)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Vedran Miletić
2011/1/11 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

 It should probably be called texmfcnf.lua instead of contextcnf.lua.
 And there's also a high chance that the settings in that file are
 wrong if you just took the file from distribution. The settings should
 somehow match the contents in texmf.cnf.

 (What version of ConTeXt is this?)


2010.07.30, according to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=context

Regards,

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2011/1/11 Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com:
 2011/1/11 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com

 It should probably be called texmfcnf.lua instead of contextcnf.lua.
 And there's also a high chance that the settings in that file are
 wrong if you just took the file from distribution. The settings should
 somehow match the contents in texmf.cnf.

 (What version of ConTeXt is this?)

 2010.07.30, according to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=context

In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they
are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete).

And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the
structure of texmf trees in debian.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

I'm trying to handle a special problem. I guess ConTeXt would be useful for 
this purpose, although its primary function is to typeset. But -

I have many drawings - they are black-and-white one-sided PDFs of A1 or A2 size 
(typical technical drawings).

The bottom right area of size 210 x 330 mm should be deleted - or 
over-painted by a white rectangle (or picture or MP code).

And next a new PDF of A4 size should be placed on the right bottom area, just on the 
white (deleting) area.

I wouldn't have problem with batch processing the number of files.

But I would need an example how to take the original A2 PDF, place a whitening area on it 
and then to place a new PDF over it; I'm not experienced enough in layering 
with ConTeXt and I guess this may be the way.

Would it be possible to provide a small example of such processing an arbitrary 
file?

I can send a sample A2 or A1 PDF, and also a replacing A4, if necessary.

Thank you in advance.

Kind regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


2011/1/11 Vedran Miletić riva...@gmail.com:

2011/1/11 Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com


It should probably be called texmfcnf.lua instead of contextcnf.lua.
And there's also a high chance that the settings in that file are
wrong if you just took the file from distribution. The settings should
somehow match the contents in texmf.cnf.

(What version of ConTeXt is this?)


2010.07.30, according to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=context


In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they
are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete).

And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the
structure of texmf trees in debian.


Wouldn't just copying the texmfcnf.lua from texlive work?

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Re: [NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2011/1/11 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to handle a special problem. I guess ConTeXt would be useful for
 this purpose, although its primary function is to typeset. But -

 I have many drawings - they are black-and-white one-sided PDFs of A1 or A2
 size (typical technical drawings).

 The bottom right area of size 210 x 330 mm should be deleted - or
 over-painted by a white rectangle (or picture or MP code).

An important question: overpainted for your personal needs or in order
to remove some information from PDF that others are not supposed to
see?

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 17:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the
 structure of texmf trees in debian.

 Wouldn't just copying the texmfcnf.lua from texlive work?

Mine (/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua) says

TEXMFCACHE  = $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-cache,

TEXMFOS = $SELFAUTODIR,
TEXMFSYSTEM = $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf,
TEXMFMAIN   = $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-dist,
TEXMFCONTEXT= $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-context,
TEXMFLOCAL  = $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-local,
TEXMFFONTS  = $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-fonts,
TEXMFPROJECT= $SELFAUTOPARENT/texmf-project,

I'm not saying that it won't work at all, but I'm not sure if all the
files in Debian are at the same place relative to binaries. I wasn't
aware that texmf-context and other trees were also preconfigured to
exist in TL.

Note that SELFAUTOPARENT is set to root based on Norbert's output. The
tree 'texmf-dist' is probably not located under /texmf-dist ...

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Re: [NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread luigi scarso
2011/1/11 Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to handle a special problem. I guess ConTeXt would be useful for
 this purpose, although its primary function is to typeset. But -

 I have many drawings - they are black-and-white one-sided PDFs of A1 or A2
 size (typical technical drawings).

 The bottom right area of size 210 x 330 mm should be deleted - or
 over-painted by a white rectangle (or picture or MP code).

 And next a new PDF of A4 size should be placed on the right bottom area,
 just on the white (deleting) area.

 I wouldn't have problem with batch processing the number of files.

 But I would need an example how to take the original A2 PDF, place a
 whitening area on it and then to place a new PDF over it; I'm not
 experienced enough in layering with ConTeXt and I guess this may be the
 way.

 Would it be possible to provide a small example of such processing an
 arbitrary file?
I always use this as starting point
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers
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Re: [NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread Procházka Lukáš Ing . - Pontex s . r . o .

Hello,

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:45:53 +0100, Mojca Miklavec 
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:


An important question: overpainted for your personal needs or in order
to remove some information from PDF that others are not supposed to
see?

Mojca


I need to upgrade some drawings, or more precisely, to upgrade their title block as some 
its fields need to be changed (e.g. date 9/2010 to 1/2011, the level of the 
documentation and so on).

Finally, the PDFs are to be printed to a physical printer (= physical pieces 
of paper) and also to be provided to the third party like digital documents. The 
result should not have layers switchable to on/off, but I believe this can be 
handled by printing the final (even layered) PDF to another PDF by a virtual 
printer (e.g. pdfCreator).

Layering was only an idea, which - as I believed - should lead to the goal; 
although that would probably mean to print the (layered) PDFs manually to the 
virtual PDF printer.

Or is there another (non-layering or layer-merging) way?

Regards,

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:


Or is there another (non-layering or layer-merging) way?


You can also crop the pdf (\clip[mp=shape that you want to 
clip]{\externalfigure[...]}) and place that on paper using layers. That 
way, even if layers are toggled on a pdfviewer, the reader will see blank 
text (as opposed to old text).


But, I believe that clipping still inserts the whole pdf, so if someone 
really wanted, they can still extract out the original pdf. So this is not 
a failsafe way of hiding information; but is better than just adding a 
layer over the title.


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Re: [NTG-context] Replacing a piece of a paper

2011-01-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 11-1-2011 6:59, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. wrote:


Or is there another (non-layering or layer-merging) way?


You can also crop the pdf (\clip[mp=shape that you want to
clip]{\externalfigure[...]}) and place that on paper using layers. That
way, even if layers are toggled on a pdfviewer, the reader will see
blank text (as opposed to old text).


or just overlay framed with a white background



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[NTG-context] undesired offset with \position (was: Re: Replacing a piece of a paper)

2011-01-11 Thread Peter Münster
Procházka Lukáš Ing. - Pontex s. r. o. l...@pontex.cz writes:

 Would it be possible to provide a small example of such processing an
 arbitrary file?

Yes.


 I can send a sample A2 or A1 PDF, and also a replacing A4, if necessary.

Not necessary, context can produce such files for you.

Example, using positioning macros, that shows also a problem with
vertical offset:

--8---cut here---start-8---
% Produce A2-example:
\startbuffer[a2]
\setuppapersize[A2]
\setuplayout[page]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=color, backgroundcolor=blue]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
\stopbuffer
\savebuffer[a2][a2-page.tex]
\executesystemcommand{context a2-page}

% Produce A4-example:
\startbuffer[a4]
\setuppapersize[A4]
\setuplayout[page]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
\stopbuffer
\savebuffer[a4][a4-page.tex]
\executesystemcommand{context a4-page}

% Do the job:
\setuppapersize[A2]
\setuplayout[page]
\setuppositioning[state=overlay,
  yoffset=-12pt%%% Why is this offset needed???
]
\starttext
\startpositioning
  \position(0,0){\externalfigure[a2-page]}
  \position(0,0){\framed[frame=off, offset=overlay, background=color,
  backgroundcolor=white]{\externalfigure[a4-page]}}
\stoppositioning
\stoptext
--8---cut here---end---8---

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Re: [NTG-context] Error with \placetable ... \starttable

2011-01-11 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Khaled Hosny wrote:


Looks like \stattable ... \stoptable no longer do grouping, the
following is broken unless \stattable ... \stoptable is grouped.

\starttext
\placetable[here,nonumber]{foo}
\starttable[|r|r|]
\NC foo \NC bar \AR
\stoptable
\stoptext


This is still present in the latest beta.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental)

2011-01-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Mojca,

On Di, 11 Jan 2011, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
  2010.07.30, according to http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=context
 
 In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they
 are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete).

Ahhh ... I guess that needs some divine inspiration to know ...

 And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the
 structure of texmf trees in debian.

Of course, looking into it I graasped that now.

Why on earth can mtxrun not simply load the main texmf.cnf like
any other program in the TeX world and initialize the values from 
there I ask myself.

I am slowly giving up on ConTeXt. It is changing in arbitrary directions
far too often, and still things like multi-user support are not
here since ages. I know, it is primary Hans' system and it has to
work primarily on his computer, but that means that distributing
it within any distribution system is plain pain :-(

All that of course relates only to MkIV. I guess I will just add
one sentence to the README.Debian:
MkIV is not suppored on Debian. If you know how to set it
up you can do it yourself and educate the maintainer,
otherwise simply use MkII or the ConTeXt minimals.
Sad but true.

All the best

Norbert

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long passageway, recognise each other and immediately pretend they
haven't. This is to avoid the ghastly embarrassment of having to
continue recognising each other the whole length of the corridor.
--- Douglas Adams, The Meaning of Liff
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