[NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear all,

this time I have a question not concerning how to ship ConTeXt in Debian
or so, but very different.

Does anyone have experience with authoring for web and print. I.e.,
we want to maintain only one format and generate both web pages and
printed documentation from it. Is there intrinsic or through addons
support in ConteXt for this?

Any suggestion would be greatly welcome

Norbert


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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 05/11/2013 12:26 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:

Does anyone have experience with authoring for web and print. I.e.,
we want to maintain only one format and generate both web pages and
printed documentation from it. Is there intrinsic or through addons
support in ConteXt for this?

Any suggestion would be greatly welcome


I think the most natural route would be to author your content in 
generic xml. This can be wonderfully processed in ConTeXt, and you can 
use XSLT to produce xhtml. In theory, you could also directly process 
xhtml in ConTeXt, but personally (mind you, I'm no authority on these 
questions at all) writing xml (such as docbook) gives you more wiggle 
room, should you ever want to reuse your content (just think your 
organization uses a new CMS, and you need a different form of html).


Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Formulas in ConTeXt are different from those in plain TeX

2013-05-11 Thread Hans Hagen
On 5/11/2013 12:16 PM, Tim Li wrote:
 Thanks, Hans,
 
 can you give me a small example or show me how to do that? I really 
 don't know how to do that. :-(

see plain.tex and the tex book

but you can bet on interference ... deep down, math in context is
implemented in a rather special way and that might conflict with more
traditional approaches

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote:
 I think the most natural route would be to author your content in generic
 xml. This can be wonderfully processed in ConTeXt

The relevant manual section [1] seems to be the authoritative document
on this, though I don't know how up-to-date it is. The wiki [2]
contains additional, perhaps more practical, information.

Cheers,
~~ Ondra

[1] http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-43.htm
[2] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML

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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Grant Rettke
http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html

Looks really interesting.

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Ondřej Hošek ondra.ho...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz
 thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote:
  I think the most natural route would be to author your content in generic
  xml. This can be wonderfully processed in ConTeXt

 The relevant manual section [1] seems to be the authoritative document
 on this, though I don't know how up-to-date it is. The wiki [2]
 contains additional, perhaps more practical, information.

 Cheers,
 ~~ Ondra

 [1] http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-43.htm
 [2] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/XML

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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Hans Hagen

On 5/11/2013 2:47 PM, Grant Rettke wrote:

http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html

Looks really interesting.


Don't go that route ... it's mkii based and overloads low level context 
commands (which even for that approach is not needed). It's far more 
convenient to use mkiv's tree based xml handler with expressions.


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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Grant Rettke
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 5/11/2013 2:47 PM, Grant Rettke wrote:

 http://www.leverkruid.eu/**context/index.htmlhttp://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html

 Looks really interesting.


 Don't go that route ... it's mkii based and overloads low level context
 commands (which even for that approach is not needed). It's far more
 convenient to use mkiv's tree based xml handler with expressions.


Understood. Thanks!
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Re: [NTG-context] authoring for web and print - suggestions

2013-05-11 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/5/11 Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at:
 Does anyone have experience with authoring for web and print. I.e.,
 we want to maintain only one format and generate both web pages and
 printed documentation from it. Is there intrinsic or through addons
 support in ConteXt for this?

Consider pandoc.
But you probably need math. :-)

Best
   Martin
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Re: [NTG-context] python parse/formatter example on the wiki

2013-05-11 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 11.05.2013 um 16:22 schrieb seasoul bioseas...@gmail.com:

 I was trying the example of writing a parse/formatter under Verbatim text.
 
 The python formatter runs successfully. But when I compile the text file with 
 all the definitions included,  an error occurs.
 
 
 inserted text
 }
 to be read again
 \endgroup
 \buff_verbatim_type_block_verbatim_indeed ...ines
 \dostoptagged \csname #2\e...
 
 
 It could be implemented forcefully, but definitely not an excuse to ignore 
 this error.

You have to change the color settings from

  {\color[…]…}

to

  \color[…]{…}

because the command expects the text as argument.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] python parse/formatter example on the wiki

2013-05-11 Thread seasoul
Yes, it is solved.



On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:48 AM, Wolfgang Schuster 
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:


 Am 11.05.2013 um 16:22 schrieb seasoul bioseas...@gmail.com:

  I was trying the example of writing a parse/formatter under Verbatim
 text.
 
  The python formatter runs successfully. But when I compile the text file
 with all the definitions included,  an error occurs.
 
 
  inserted text
  }
  to be read again
  \endgroup
  \buff_verbatim_type_block_verbatim_indeed ...ines
  \dostoptagged \csname #2\e...
 
 
  It could be implemented forcefully, but definitely not an excuse to
 ignore this error.

 You have to change the color settings from

   {\color[…]…}

 to

   \color[…]{…}

 because the command expects the text as argument.

 Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic typesetting, one more

2013-05-11 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد

Salaam, Huseyin,

I missed this and other threads, it's been busy here...

On Tue, 07 May 2013 23:35:25 -0600, H. Özoguz h.oezo...@mmnetz.de wrote:

But with traditionalarabic it is worse than with arabtype. What could be  
a way to fix this?


Traditional Arabic is a uniscribe-compliant font, but not a fully opentype  
font. Uniscribe also supports older, pre-unicode protocols. In other  
words, TraditionalArabic is platform-dependent. So unless M$ has updated  
it in a recent OS, it will not work in ConTeXt MkIV. Since XeTeX uses the  
local libraries, then mkii/xetex on windows might work.


Best wishes
Idris
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Colorado State University
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt Meeting #7

2013-05-11 Thread Leo Arnold

Hi there,

will the registration open before the end of early bird discount?

Cheers

Leo
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Meeting #7

2013-05-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Leo Arnold wrote:
 Hi there,

 will the registration open before the end of early bird discount?

The dates were most probably copied from the website of meeting in
2010. Jano promised to fix the page in the following days, so no
worries - the early bird discount won't run out before the
registration starts, but you can already become a ConTeXt Group member
to get a discount for the conference ;)

http://group.contextgarden.net/register.shtml

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Meeting #7

2013-05-11 Thread Leo Arnold

Hey Mojca,

I guess DANTE discount will do. But if it was possible, i'd join them 
all and come for free :-P


Best

Leo

On 05/11/2013 11:56 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Leo Arnold wrote:

Hi there,

will the registration open before the end of early bird discount?


The dates were most probably copied from the website of meeting in
2010. Jano promised to fix the page in the following days, so no
worries - the early bird discount won't run out before the
registration starts, but you can already become a ConTeXt Group member
to get a discount for the conference ;)

http://group.contextgarden.net/register.shtml

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Meeting #7

2013-05-11 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Leo Arnold t...@arney.de wrote:
 Hey Mojca,

 I guess DANTE discount will do.

Yes, but ConTeXt Group is definitely cooler, if nothing else, because
it's smaller and every member counts. The membership nr. 1 has been
sold for 120 EUR!

 But if it was possible, i'd join them all
 and come for free :-P

Good idea. I believe that we could make a corporate membership that
would include a free conference attendance.

Mojca
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