Re: [NTG-context] context - docx ??
On 01/17/2015 03:45 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Hi Pablo, Thanks for your detailed reply: Somehow I missed it till just now. Comments: Hi Idris, On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:58:11 -0700, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: [...] I have written a small book from a markdown source. The PDF document was generated by ConTeXt, previously converted with pandoc. I think this is the wrong way to go. Mainly because conversion to ConTeXt doesn’t rettain language information and special attributes. I had to edit the ConTeXt source to add the missing features. Similar experience here; see below. But even the conversion to epub had issues, especially in getting the front matter to come out right. Sorry, what was wrong in the conversion to ePub? Unless you number your headings manually, you won’t get numbers in them. As far as I know, automatic numbering is impossible in ePub 2 (there seem to be no counters available). Is there any other feature you miss when converting to ePub. In my opinion, the right way to go is to convert the markdown source to HTML and to parse it with an environment. Otherwise, updating the source is not straightforward (either you have two sources: markdown and ConTeXt). What do you mean by 'parse it with an environment'? Could you give an example? Well, the ConTeXt Suite has at least one: tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/x-html.mkiv. Environments are the standard way that ConTeXt has to directly typeset XML files (http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf). Sorry, but I cannot send a more elaborate sample right now. Why do you prefer to avoid markdown as a source document format? I did a small-book project last year with markdown as source, with pdf and epub output. 95% or so was good but towards the end I had no choice but to decouple the context and epub files (so I had to deal with two sources). For that project I would say that the markdown/pandoc workflow was a qualified success. Well, two sources is suboptimal at best. OTOH I was not the author of that small book. As a writer I am more used to writing in ConTeXt than in markdown; the flow of ideas is less disturbed that way. Closely related, the current project has a lot of bibliographical references and I don't want to manually write a bibliography in markdown. pandoc itself seems to be able to deal with bibliographies (I have never used them myself [either in pandoc, or in TeX]). I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to draw this picture?
I am working on an economic book, which I convert from a paper edition into a digital edition, which contains some figures I want to recreate using context or other tool. In logical terms, the picture represents some economic figures and visualizes how some figure (e.g. National income and the amount) is the sum of some other figures, in which it can be split up. In logic terms the figure then explains that: A can be split up into B and C. B can be split up into D and E. D is F. E can be split into G,H,I and K. Graphically this is depicted like a table containing 4 columns and 5 rows, and the split into is drawn as two diagonal lines (one right-up and another righ down) which shows how the element on the left column is split up into the elements on the right column using the diagonal lines that center in the left element, drawn to the right top and right bottom element. I worked this out into context as a simple table, and used instead of the diagonal lines only vertical lines. Which is less expressive, but still visualizes the splitting sufficiently I hope. But I would like to rework this picture, using a brace instead of a vertical line, similar to how in a formula one uses mathcases. I tried to use mathcases, but it seems mathcases can't be nested?? I was thinking of other solutions, like replacing the vertical line with a small column in which to put a vertical stretched brace symbol, at the appriopriate lowered cell, but don't know how the vertical stretch a glyph. What is the best way to code this in ConText? (preferred is to use the symbol left brace.) Greetings, Rob --- context code now used: \starttable[s0|cp(.2\textwidth)|cp(.2\textwidth)|cp(.2\textwidth)|cp(.25\textwidth)|] \NC \NC \VL Variabel\\ kapitaal\\ 10 \VL Arbeidsloon v/d\\ productie-arbeiders\\ 10 \NC \AR \NC \NC \VL \NC \NC \AR \NC \NC \VL \NC \NC \AR \NC \VL Nationaal\\ inkomen\\ 30 \VL \VL Winst van de\\ industriële kapitalist\\ 10 \NC \AR \NC \VL \VL \VL \NC \AR \NC \VL \VL \VL Commerciële\\ winst\\ 3 \NC \AR \NC Totaal\\ maatschappelijk\\ product\\ 90 \VL \VL Meerwaarde\\ 20 \VL Rente\\ 2 \NC \AR \NC \VL \VL \VL Grondrente\\ 5 \NC \AR \NC \VL \NC \NC \NC \AR \NC \VL Vervanging \\ v/h verbruikte \\ constante\\ kapitaal\\ 60 \NC \NC \NC \AR \stoptable ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] context - docx ??
On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 13:32:07 -0700, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote: On 01/17/2015 03:45 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Similar experience here; see below. But even the conversion to epub had issues, especially in getting the front matter to come out right. Sorry, what was wrong in the conversion to ePub? Just getting a simple copyright page prior to the TOC page was a pain. I ended up having to patch the xml manually (IIRC you helped me in that thread...) Unless you number your headings manually, you won’t get numbers in them. As far as I know, automatic numbering is impossible in ePub 2 (there seem to be no counters available). Is there any other feature you miss when converting to ePub. As mentioned above, pandoc seems to have issues in getting the correct flow for Title-Page=Copyright-Page=TOC=Main-Text. Transmitting this info to ConTeXt was also problematic. That's why I finally had to decouple things at the end of the process. In my opinion, the right way to go is to convert the markdown source to HTML and to parse it with an environment. Otherwise, updating the source is not straightforward (either you have two sources: markdown and ConTeXt). What do you mean by 'parse it with an environment'? Could you give an example? Well, the ConTeXt Suite has at least one: tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/x-html.mkiv. Environments are the standard way that ConTeXt has to directly typeset XML files (http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/xml-mkiv.pdf). Sorry, but I cannot send a more elaborate sample right now. I understand now, thanks! Why do you prefer to avoid markdown as a source document format? I did a small-book project last year with markdown as source, with pdf and epub output. 95% or so was good but towards the end I had no choice but to decouple the context and epub files (so I had to deal with two sources). For that project I would say that the markdown/pandoc workflow was a qualified success. Well, two sources is suboptimal at best. Indeed! OTOH I was not the author of that small book. As a writer I am more used to writing in ConTeXt than in markdown; the flow of ideas is less disturbed that way. Closely related, the current project has a lot of bibliographical references and I don't want to manually write a bibliography in markdown. pandoc itself seems to be able to deal with bibliographies (I have never used them myself [either in pandoc, or in TeX]). Perhaps I'll experiment, but *after* this article is finished :-) Thanks and best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] For the Mac users: AppleScript to launch ConTeXt in a flexile way
On 17 Jul 2014, at 2:19, Thomas Floeren wrote: Hello, Some months ago I wrote a little AppleScript script with one purpose: It should be a flexible script to launch ConTeXt typesetting, independently of the text editor I’m using and it should be capable to typeset the Product file even if I’m currently editing any component file belonging to that Product file. I used it for some time, I improved it, and I shared it with a collegue who also works with ConText on OSX. We’re still using it, many bugs have been fixed and some features were added. The script proved to be very useful for us and I thought, why not share it with the other Mac-ConTeXt people? So here it is: … … The old link won’t work anymore, the script has a new home: http://dflect.net/context-typeset-tool/ Of course it works fine with Yosemite :-) Best wishes -- Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Positioning an arrow between two values (Metapost)
Hi,
I went from PSTricks to Metapost (Metafun) gradually. For positioning arrows
between two values in an array of variations, I used a command like this \
ncline {A}{B}, which avoids fumbling.
Can we do the same with Metapost ?
The idea would be to convert the value into a path or an image, much like in
the code below.
\starttext
\startMPcode
u:=1cm ;
path p, q ;
p=fullsquare scaled u ;
q=fullsquare scaled u shifted (4u,-2u) ;
draw p ;
draw q ;
drawarrow center p--center q ;
label(btex $5$ etex,center p) ;
label(btex $-2 $ etex,center q) ;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
Best regards,
Fabrice
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Re: [NTG-context] What happened to the ePub script?
Hi there,
I started documenting ConTeXt’s current ePub/export behaviour in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ePub and will merge/delete the content of the
current wiki pages as soon as I’m content with its content ;)
* Do you think it would be better to document export and ePub separately?
Of course I have questions, e.g.:
* How can I set the current \date in a metadata variable?
(I know it’s also in the date tag of document, but I know how to format \date
…)
This doesn’t work (i.e. I get „\date“ in XML/XHTML):
\settaggedmetadata[
version={\date}
]
* Can I influence the directory/file names of the export from within the source?
E.g. if I compile „minimal.tex“, I get minimal-export and minimal-epub
The —result switch doesn’t change anything.
* BTW: Can I set —result from within my ConTeXt source?
More to follow ;)
Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] context - docx ??
Hi Pablo, Thanks for your detailed reply: Somehow I missed it till just now. Comments: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 12:58:11 -0700, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote: On 01/13/2015 08:59 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Dear gang, I'm currently writing a paper with very basic typographical needs: blockquotes, emphasis, bibliography, perhaps a graphic or two. The publisher wants the thing in Word, naturally. The last time I did something like this I set up a markdown document and just exported it to both docx and to context. For simple documents this is at least workable, but I'd prefer to write in context, not markdown. Hi Idris, I think it is better to use a markdown source with pandoc. It is the closest model to its native format. I have written a small book from a markdown source. The PDF document was generated by ConTeXt, previously converted with pandoc. I think this is the wrong way to go. Mainly because conversion to ConTeXt doesn’t rettain language information and special attributes. I had to edit the ConTeXt source to add the missing features. Similar experience here; see below. But even the conversion to epub had issues, especially in getting the front matter to come out right. [pandoc’s internal document format only allows attributes for certain elements, not for all of them. A workaround is to wrap then in divs an spans.] In my opinion, the right way to go is to convert the markdown source to HTML and to parse it with an environment. Otherwise, updating the source is not straightforward (either you have two sources: markdown and ConTeXt). What do you mean by 'parse it with an environment'? Could you give an example? Why do you prefer to avoid markdown as a source document format? I did a small-book project last year with markdown as source, with pdf and epub output. 95% or so was good but towards the end I had no choice but to decouple the context and epub files (so I had to deal with two sources). For that project I would say that the markdown/pandoc workflow was a qualified success. OTOH I was not the author of that small book. As a writer I am more used to writing in ConTeXt than in markdown; the flow of ideas is less disturbed that way. Closely related, the current project has a lot of bibliographical references and I don't want to manually write a bibliography in markdown. Now it's been a while since I've experimented with ConTeXt and epub. From lightly perusing the list it seems that there has been considerable movement on this front. So my question: Has anyone here succeeded in the following workflow: context - xml - docx [perhaps via pandoc]? I don’t have any samples of this workflow, since I never worked this way. It seems from this round of experimentation that the pain of context-docx via xml and pandoc will be more pain than it's worth. At some point I suspect this sort of workflow will get sorted out for ConTeXt, especially since it is somewhat unavoidable for many users. pandoc doesn’t even have a ConTeXt reader (https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/issues/1423). You will need a way to generate a document in an XML format that pandoc understands. XHTML is an option. And I guess that would be easy to generate with ConTeXt (I have never done it). Just in case it helps, Indeed, your comments are always helpful, Pablo: Thanks again!! Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid Professor of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Issues in export
Hi, please consider the example at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export#More_useful_example and its result at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export#raw.xml_2 etc. The metadata tags end up within the first section (in this case: chapter), even if they’re defined before \starttext. Please fix, thanks. Further, I wonder about the tagging of footnotes (and probably other references, didn’t look into them yet): This is completely visual instead of semantical: (in *-raw.xml:) Quothdescriptionsymbol detail=footnotesup1/sup/descriptionsymbol ... description detail=footnote chain=footnote descriptiontagsup1/sup /descriptiontag descriptioncontentby Edgar Allan Poe/descriptioncontent /description (in *-div.xhtml:) Quothdiv class=descriptionsymbol footnotediv class=sup1/div/div ... div class=description footnote div class=descriptiontagdiv class=sup1/div /div div class=descriptioncontentby Edgar Allan Poe/div /div In raw.xml I’d prefer something like Quothdescription detail=footnote id=1by Edgar Allan Poe/description or Quothdescription detail=footnote id=1 / ... description detail=footnote id=1 descriptiontag1/descriptiontag descriptioncontentby Edgar Allan Poe/descriptioncontent /description and in div.xhtml something that works in HTML, like a title: Quothdiv class=descriptionsymbol footnote title=by Edgar Allan Poediv class=sup1/div/div or a link: Quotha href=#footnote_1div class=descriptionsymbol footnotediv class=sup1/div/div/a … a name=„footnote_1“ div class=description footnote div class=descriptiontagdiv class=sup1/div /div div class=descriptioncontentby Edgar Allan Poe/div /div /a Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
