Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on android via "debian noroot"-App

2016-01-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:40 PM, luigi scarso 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Klein  > wrote:
>
>> Hello ConTeXt-Crew,
>>
>> thank you very much for this fantastic application. I'm a former
>> LaTeX-user and now I can't imagine to go back ever.
>>
>> Recently I tried to install ConTeXt in an android smartphone with help of
>> the app "debian noroot". Everything went fine and I'm able to compile
>> documents, but all \framed-Commands lead to the error-message
>>
>> "tex error on line 2 in file...: !You can't use '\hrule' here except with
>> leaders"
>>
>> The minimal example is:
>>
>> \starttext
>> \framed{Hello}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> I suspect the cause for this might be missing packages (metapost?). Can
>> you give me any hint, what packages I have to install? I installed the
>> ConTeXt Standalone from contextgarden and I'm running context version
>> 2016.01.18 22:21 (ConTeXt Process Management 0.63). I already tried to
>> install the package texlive-metapost, but it didn't help.
>>
>>
>>
> Did you used first-setup.sh ?
> Which platform  luatex is using ?
>
>
> --
> luigi
>


I have installed, I will play a bit
-- 
luigi
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Saša Janiška
On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 13:55 -0700, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

> Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations.

That's very true, indeed!

> For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the
> simpleslides module. That could be a starting point.

That should be installed by default?


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Jan U. Hasecke
Am 26.01.2016 um 11:22 schrieb Saša Janiška:
> Still, wonder how do you like Pandoc's ability to convert to
> ConTeXt?

I don't use it. ;-)

I use Pablo's solution to convert to ConTeXt.

https://github.com/ousia/from-pandoc-to-context

It adds an additional layer of xml to the process but it suits exactly
my needs (book production).

juh

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Saša Janiška
On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 22:15 +0100, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

> I used ConTeXt once for a presentation, and then came back to Beamer.
> Not necessarily because it's better, but I know it quite well, so
> I could prepare my slides faster.  

Hmm, that's valid point.

> So I don't have a lot of experience with ConTeXt, but I'll risk an
> opinion: if you're fine with a simple presentation without much
> learning, or more learning for a sophisticated presentation, consider
> ConTeXt.  If you don't mind a bit boring look (which some consider an
> advantage) and/or you want just to copy a template from the docs (even
> for a bit more sophisticated stuff), try Beamer.

Thank you for sharing.

> Also, you might want to switch to a decent text editor.  ;-P

I tried twice, but after noticing wrist pain, I said: "Goodbye!". ;)


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[NTG-context] ConTeXt on android via "debian noroot"-App

2016-01-26 Thread Thomas Klein
Hello ConTeXt-Crew,

thank you very much for this fantastic application. I'm a former LaTeX-user
and now I can't imagine to go back ever.

Recently I tried to install ConTeXt in an android smartphone with help of
the app "debian noroot". Everything went fine and I'm able to compile
documents, but all \framed-Commands lead to the error-message

"tex error on line 2 in file...: !You can't use '\hrule' here except with
leaders"

The minimal example is:

\starttext
\framed{Hello}
\stoptext

I suspect the cause for this might be missing packages (metapost?). Can you
give me any hint, what packages I have to install? I installed the ConTeXt
Standalone from contextgarden and I'm running context version 2016.01.18
22:21 (ConTeXt Process Management 0.63). I already tried to install the
package texlive-metapost, but it didn't help.

Help would highly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Thomas Klein.
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Saša Janiška
On Pon, 2016-01-25 at 22:56 +0100, Otared Kavian wrote:

> I have been using Context for all my presentations for many years and
> I think it is easier to use than any Latex package, since out of the
> box I can add pictures, menus, graphs of functions, etc.

That is very encouraging to hear. ;)

> A good start is to begin with the examples set up by Hans and by
> Aditya and Thomas Schmitz.

This is natural answer to my question...

> The examples by Hans are in the directory
> 
>   /tex/texmf-context/tex/context/modules/mkiv
> 
> of your Context installation, and begin with s-pre-, followed by
> digits and mkii or mkiv suffix.
> The examples by Aditya and Thomas are to be found in 
> 
>   /tex/texmf-modules/tex/context/third/simpleslides

After some additonal install, I was able to localize both type of
examples. :-)

Now let me jump into some ConTeXt-related learning experience.


Sincerely,
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Saša Janiška
On Uto, 2016-01-26 at 09:56 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:

> The "Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often
> in the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot
> of presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy"
> is an argument for using context as it permits you to (stepwise)develop your 
> own style. 

Thank you for that, Hans!

> In the s-pre-* modules you can find examples (many of 
> them you can just process to get an idea as they contain examples) 
> what style or coding you use depends on what / the way you present.

Great! Found examples on my Debian...


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Hans Hagen

On 1/25/2016 9:55 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 21:11:06 +0100
Saša Janiška  wrote:


Hello,

I have just checked that my first post to this list was more than
10yrs ago (end of 2002). Then I was working on some full-sized books
and ended up with LyX/LaTex. Later, had few attempts to switch to
ConTeXt, but as a result I reduced even my LyX/LaTeX usage and was
using light markups like rst/AsciiDoc for my writing needs without
higher-quality typesetting.

Yesterday I had to help my wife to put together some medicine-related
presentation for the meeting at her working place and used LyX/LaTeX
with Beamer class.

Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in
the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of
presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy
(iow. no need of math), I am again in the position to consider
ConTeXt, but this time mostly for presentations.

I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete
package without clashing of different packages which usually happens
in LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to
learn and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of
learning lot of LaTeX packages?

How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?

I'm on Linux (running Debian Sid) and use Vim as my primary editor so
wonder if ConTeXt users recommend to e.g. prepare drafts of their
documents like rst/AsciiDoc/markdown and then convert them into
ConTeXt with tool(s) like Pandoc?


Beamer presentations look like ... beamer presentations.

For something simple using ConTeXt, you might want to look at the
simpleslides module. That could be a starting point.


The "Considering that there might be need to do such thing more often in 
the future as well as possibility that I might have to produce lot of 
presentations for my public lectures/workshops based on philosophy"
is an argument for using context as it permits you to (stepwise) develop 
your own style. In the s-pre-* modules you can find examples (many of 
them you can just process to get an idea as they contain examples) ... 
what style or coding you use depends on what / the way you present.


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Saša Janiška
On Uto, 2016-01-26 at 08:34 +0100, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:

> For the sake of completeness, have a look at Pandoc, which produces
> presentations from simple markdown sources in various formats
> including beamer and some nice looking html based presentations.

I usually find too simple and prefer rst/AsciiDoc, but will try that as
well. Still, wonder how do you like Pandoc's ability to convert to
ConTeXt?


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Marcin Borkowski

On 2016-01-26, at 08:34, Jan U. Hasecke  wrote:

> Am 25.01.2016 um 21:11 schrieb Saša Janiška:
>> How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?
>
> For the sake of completeness, have a look at Pandoc, which produces
> presentations from simple markdown sources in various formats including
> beamer and some nice looking html based presentations.
>
> http://pandoc.org/README.html
>
> juh

Also, Org-mode, which has markup similar to Markdown (but better), and
can export to a variety of formats (including Beamer and e.g. reveal.js;
unfortunately, there's no ConTeXt support, but adding it is a questions
of a few hours of simple Emacs Lisp hacking).

I heard reports of Vim-ers switching to Emacs because of Org.  Turn to
the dark side, we have cookies!!!  Bwahahaha!

(Side note: despite jokes, I have a high respect for Vim.  Its UI is
plain genius, even if I do not like it personally.  The idea of "text
objects" and operations on them is really great.  I even use hjkl for
movement when coding in Elisp, using abo-abo's "lispy" package.  The
main advantage of Emacs over Vim is not the UI, but the hackability.
Also, E & V have different basic assumptions: Vim is much closer to the
Unix philosophy, while Emacs does a similar thing, but not on the OS
level, but within itself.  IOW, Vim is built on top of Unix, and Emacs
largely "replaces" it.)

Best,

-- 
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http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Re: [NTG-context] Overfull boxes using m-cweb

2016-01-26 Thread Ibn Saeed
Hans Hagen  wxs.nl> writes:


> it may be a result of many unbreakable (key)words, so in that case try:
> 
> \setuptolerance[verytolerant,stretch]
> 
> Hans
> 


Thanks Hans, I was having some issue with overfull boxe in one paragraph, i
applied your command and it solved the issue.



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Re: [NTG-context] which is the best/right element for elements in cover and title pages?

2016-01-26 Thread Ibn Saeed
Pablo Rodriguez  gmx.es> writes:

> 
> On 01/26/2016 05:13 AM, Ibn Saeed wrote:
> > Pablo Rodriguez writes:
> > 
> > Have you tried \startstandardmakeup for Title Pages ?
> 
> Many thanks for your reply, Ibn.
> 
> I use a makeup for the title pages (in fact \startitlepage could be
> written as \startmakeup[titlepage]).
> 
> I mean the individual information such as title, subtitle, author, and
> so on.
> 
> Pablo


Take a look at \setupinteraction

Syntax :
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinteraction

Examples here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDFX









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Re: [NTG-context] which is the best/right element for elements in cover and title pages?

2016-01-26 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 01/26/2016 09:15 AM, Ibn Saeed wrote:
> 
> Take a look at \setupinteraction
> 
> Syntax :
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupinteraction
> 
> Examples here:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Export
> 
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/PDFX

Many thanks for your reply again, Ibn.

I’m afraid this is something different of what I intend to ask here (in
fact, I use \setupinteraction in my docments too).

I guess \definehead is what I should be using.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] which is the best/right element for elements in cover and title pages?

2016-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Pablo Rodriguez 
26. Januar 2016 um 09:42

Many thanks for your reply again, Ibn.

I’m afraid this is something different of what I intend to ask here (in
fact, I use \setupinteraction in my docments too).

I guess \definehead is what I should be using.

No, the makeup environment is the right mechanism. You can combine this
with the \setvariables command and create the title page when you set 
the values.


\definemakeup[titlepage][align=middle]

\startsetups[titlepage]
\startmakeup[titlepage]
\startfont[SansBold sa 3]
\getvariable{titlepage}{title}
\stopfont
\stopmakeup
\stopsetups

\setvariable{titlepage}{set}{\texsetup{titlepage}}

\starttext

\setvariables[titlepage][title=Titlepages for dummies]

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] drops module update

2016-01-26 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi,

just a small maintenance update (everything was broken) for the drops
module. Should be working again with the latest versions of ImageMagick
(6.9.2-0+) and ConTeXt (luatex 0.85.0+).

Files (version 2016-01-18) can be found here [the zip file also contains
the documentation (drops.pdf)]

https://spideroak.com/browse/share/indiego/public/ConTeXt/drops/



Have fun,  Peter
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016, Saša Janiška wrote:


I'm (well) aware of ConTeXt's advantage in the sense of being complete
package without clashing of different packages which usually happens in
LaTeX world, I wonder if someone can give some piece of advice to learn
and/or switch ConTeXt for preparing presentations instead of learning
lot of LaTeX packages?

How does ConTeXt compare for the purpose vs LaTeX/Beamer?


As others have mentioned, beamer presentations look like beamer 
presentations. One of the things that I like is that it is relatively easy 
to create the look that you want.


Once you think about it a bit, presentations are no different than regular 
documents. You can get a reasonable looking presentation by just changing 
a few defaults:


https://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/creating-a-clean-presentation-style-in-40-commits/

I would recommend creating your own style for simple presentations and 
slowly add bells and whistles.


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt vs Beamer

2016-01-26 Thread Jeong Dal
Dear Saša Janiška,

I’d like tell you about my case.
I have used Beamer long time ago, but now I am using ConTeXt + Simpleslides 
module for my presentations.
There are already many given templates. 
You can find them in the doc of simple slides.(…../tex/texmf-modules/doc/…)
However we  can make our own template if we want. 
Although I am not an expert, I made my own template by modifying the given 
templates.

I think that ‘animation module’ is also a good module for presentation.
Using it, we can make the presentation more interesting.

I hope that you got what you want by using ConTeXt.

Best regards, 

Dalyoung





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Re: [NTG-context] Usage of label in startsection etc.

2016-01-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Jan U. Hasecke 
22. Januar 2016 um 16:54
Hi list,

on this page
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/startsection

the argument "label" is not explained.

Since the argument "reference" is used for the text references \in, \at
and \about I wonder what "label" is used for?
I removed label from the page because it’s a internal parameter hwich 
shouldn’t be set with \startsection.


Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on android via "debian noroot"-App

2016-01-26 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Klein 
wrote:

> Hello ConTeXt-Crew,
>
> thank you very much for this fantastic application. I'm a former
> LaTeX-user and now I can't imagine to go back ever.
>
> Recently I tried to install ConTeXt in an android smartphone with help of
> the app "debian noroot". Everything went fine and I'm able to compile
> documents, but all \framed-Commands lead to the error-message
>
> "tex error on line 2 in file...: !You can't use '\hrule' here except with
> leaders"
>
> The minimal example is:
>
> \starttext
> \framed{Hello}
> \stoptext
>
> I suspect the cause for this might be missing packages (metapost?). Can
> you give me any hint, what packages I have to install? I installed the
> ConTeXt Standalone from contextgarden and I'm running context version
> 2016.01.18 22:21 (ConTeXt Process Management 0.63). I already tried to
> install the package texlive-metapost, but it didn't help.
>
>
>
Did you used first-setup.sh ?
Which platform  luatex is using ?


-- 
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