Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Thanks for the bits and pieces to the puzzle. I'll do my best to make
sense of them and solve the problem.
Julian
On 19/3/22 20:18, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
Hi Julian,
you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t
intend to.
Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you
can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for
your case.
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful
since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can
also get previous or next “marks”.
BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs.
\namedstructurevariable...
Hraban
Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt
this to my situation:
One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I
can see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that
I want to influence.
But let me simplify my situation:
You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A.
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either
of these.
My current setting is:
\setupheadertexts [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}]
\stopsetups
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly
I'm wrong but don't appreciate why.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
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Re: [NTG-context] Metafun, difficulty with graphical element in the margin
Hi Willi,
How about invoking the command \setups{Thumb-pictures} between a \start \stop
pair as in the following:
\showframe
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\startchapter[title=Test A]
\samplefile{knuth}
\stopchapter
\stopfrontmatter
%\page[yes]
\start
\setups{Thumb-pictures}
\startbodymatter
\startchapter[title=Test B]
\samplefile{ward}
\stopchapter
\startchapter[title=Test C]
\samplefile{ward}
\stopchapter
\startchapter[title=Test D]
\samplefile{ward}
\stopchapter
\stopbodymatter
\stop
\startbackmatter
\dorecurse{5}{\startchapter[title=Test #1]
\samplefile{thuan}
\stopchapter}
\stopbackmatter
\stoptext
> On 19 Mar 2022, at 21:42, Willi Egger via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Hello Otared,
>
> thanks so much for your testing and comments. — Tthe problem is, that this
> thumb-picture should only be placed in the \startboydmatter..\stopbodymatter
> sections. In the case of this book however there are the title pages and
> quite some text including the TOC in the \startfrontmatter..\stopfrontmatter.
> SO I end up with being forced to invoke the setups at the beginning of the
> bodymatter.
>
> Thanks!
> Kind regards
>
> Willi
>
>> On 19 Mar 2022, at 16:52, Otared Kavian via ntg-context
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Willi,
>>
>> Your test file works fine if I place
>> \setups{Thumb-pictures}
>> before \starttext (using version 2022.03.12 17:56 LMTX).
>> However in the file you sent the choice of the command
>> \setups{Thumb-pictures}
>> is between chapter A and B, which seems starnge to me...
>>
>> Best regards: Otared K.
>>
>>> On 18 Mar 2022, at 20:29, Willi Egger via ntg-context
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good evening!
>>>
>>> I have a dictionary where I would like to include thumb-pictures in the
>>> margin. — When I use the attached code with a single
>>> \startchapter...\stopchapter, it works. However if I add another
>>> \startchapter…\stopchapter before loading the setups for the thumb-picture
>>> metafun throws an error about not having complete information for
>>> performing a transformation.
>>>
>>> I am currently using the before last version of LMTX-ConTeXT (January 21st
>>> 2022).
>>>
>>> Could someone try to compile?
>>>
>>> Thanks, kind regards
>>>
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[NTG-context] Metafun, difficulty with graphical element in the margin, again.
Hello,
I am a little desperate… I have installed in a new directory the latest version
of ConTeXt.
I run the sample file I provided before. After enabling a second
chapter-section before the \setups{Thumb-picture} the metafun error reoccurs. —
Looking at the log I do net get really wiser, lacking the background of the
implementation…
So here follows the section of the log with the error:
metafun > log >
metafun > log > error: Transform components aren't all known
metafun > log >
metapost> trace > (0,0,mfun_page_hsize[-4],0,0,1)
metapost> trace > yscaled
metapost> trace > mfun_page_field [ (EXPR 0) ] [ (-40) ] :=
unitsquare xscaled mfun_page_hsize [ (EXPR 0) ] yscaled mfun_page_vsize [ (-40)
] shifted ( mfun_page_hstep [ (EXPR 0) ] , mfun_page_vstep [ (-40) ] ) ;
mfun_page_field [ (-40) ] [ (EXPR 0) ] := mfun_page_field [ (EXPR 0) ] [ (-40)
] ; ENDFOR
metapost> trace > for HorPos = LeftEdge step 1 until
RightEdge : mfun_page_field [ HorPos ] [ (EXPR 0) ] := unitsquare xscaled
mfun_page_hsize [ HorPos ] yscaled mfun_page_vsize [ (EXPR 0) ] shifted (
mfun_page_hstep [ HorPos ] , mfun_page_vstep [ (EXPR 0) ] ) ; mfun_page_field [
(EXPR 0) ] [ HorPos ] := mfun_page_field [ HorPos ] [ (EXPR 0) ] ; endfor ;
ENDFOR
metapost> trace > mfun_check_page_field -> ->
mfun_check_page_dimensions;for.VerPos=Top.step10until.Bottom:for.HorPos=LeftEdge.step1until.RightEdge:mfun_page_field[HorPos][VerPos]:=unitsquare.xscaled.mfun_page_hsize[HorPos]yscaled.mfun_page_vsize[VerPos]shifted(mfun_page_hstep[HorPos],mfun_page_vstep[VerPos]);mfun_page_field[VerPos][HorPos]:=mfun_page_field[HorPos][VerPos];endfor;endfor;
metapost> trace > mfun_check_page_field ;
metapost> trace > hide -> (TEXT0)->
exitif.numeric.begingroup(TEXT0);endgroup;
metapost> trace > Field -> ->
hide(mfun_check_page_field;)mfun_page_field
metafun > log >
metafun > log > I'm unable to apply a partially specified
transformation except to a fully known
pair or transform. Proceed, and I'll omit the transformation.
metafun > log >
How to interprete, wha tto try next?
Kind regards
Willi
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Re: [NTG-context] Metafun, difficulty with graphical element in the margin
Hello Otared,
thanks so much for your testing and comments. — Tthe problem is, that this
thumb-picture should only be placed in the \startboydmatter..\stopbodymatter
sections. In the case of this book however there are the title pages and quite
some text including the TOC in the \startfrontmatter..\stopfrontmatter. SO I
end up with being forced to invoke the setups at the beginning of the
bodymatter.
Thanks!
Kind regards
Willi
> On 19 Mar 2022, at 16:52, Otared Kavian via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Hi Willi,
>
> Your test file works fine if I place
> \setups{Thumb-pictures}
> before \starttext (using version 2022.03.12 17:56 LMTX).
> However in the file you sent the choice of the command
> \setups{Thumb-pictures}
> is between chapter A and B, which seems starnge to me...
>
> Best regards: Otared K.
>
>> On 18 Mar 2022, at 20:29, Willi Egger via ntg-context
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good evening!
>>
>> I have a dictionary where I would like to include thumb-pictures in the
>> margin. — When I use the attached code with a single
>> \startchapter...\stopchapter, it works. However if I add another
>> \startchapter…\stopchapter before loading the setups for the thumb-picture
>> metafun throws an error about not having complete information for performing
>> a transformation.
>>
>> I am currently using the before last version of LMTX-ConTeXT (January 21st
>> 2022).
>>
>> Could someone try to compile?
>>
>> Thanks, kind regards
>>
>> Willi___
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Re: [NTG-context] Metafun, difficulty with graphical element in the margin
Hi Willi,
Your test file works fine if I place
\setups{Thumb-pictures}
before \starttext (using version 2022.03.12 17:56 LMTX).
However in the file you sent the choice of the command
\setups{Thumb-pictures}
is between chapter A and B, which seems starnge to me...
Best regards: Otared K.
> On 18 Mar 2022, at 20:29, Willi Egger via ntg-context
> wrote:
>
> Good evening!
>
> I have a dictionary where I would like to include thumb-pictures in the
> margin. — When I use the attached code with a single
> \startchapter...\stopchapter, it works. However if I add another
> \startchapter…\stopchapter before loading the setups for the thumb-picture
> metafun throws an error about not having complete information for performing
> a transformation.
>
> I am currently using the before last version of LMTX-ConTeXT (January 21st
> 2022).
>
> Could someone try to compile?
>
> Thanks, kind regards
>
> Willi___
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
On 3/19/2022 10:18 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs. \namedstructurevariable... the first is the current, the second a specific one ... so current can be subsubsubsubsubsection but with named you can still get the current chapter BTW, best write it down (your book) some place as it can come in handy ... Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \setupheadertexts for chapters with different authors
Hi Julian,
you’re right, the example didn’t do what you wanted, and it didn’t
intend to.
Using \getmarking you can get a section title (or another “mark”), you
can’t combine it with the variable commands, and you don’t need it for
your case.
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking isn’t really helpful
since there’s no example with section titles, but it shows you can also
get previous or next “marks”.
BTW, I can’t remember when you need \structurevariable vs.
\namedstructurevariable...
Hraban
Am 19.03.22 um 03:16 schrieb jbf via ntg-context:
I might need a little more help just to understand how best to adapt
this to my situation:
One thing is clear: I was attempting to use a 'list' variable, and I can
see why that was an error, since it is headertexts, not TOC that I want
to influence.
But let me simplify my situation:
You seem to suggest initially that I could use \structureuservariable
(or \structurevariable) instead, especially since I already have a
variable to call on, e.g \startchapter[title={My title}][author={A.
uthor}]. But in the example you then gave, you made no use of either of
these.
My current setting is:
\setupheadertexts [{\hfill\getmarking[chapter]\hfill}][]
[{\hfill\documentvariable{metadata:title}\hfill}][]
which gives me the book title centred on verso pages, and the chapter
title centred on recto pages. All I want to do is to have the chapter
contributors' name for each chapter instead of the chapter title.
So why can't I create a setups along the lines of:
\startsetups[contributor] \getmarking[\structureuservariable{author}]
\stopsetups
Then just swap 'chapter' in \setupheadertexts, with 'contributor'? I
tried it but it doesn't work. I thought it would be logical. Clearly I'm
wrong but don't appreciate why.
Julian
On 18/3/22 18:52, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
The *list* variables work only in lists.
There’s also \structurevariable and \structureuservariable.
Make sure you use setups for the header, otherwise the variable gets
expanded only once at the beginning.
Like in:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupheadertexts[] % empty
\setupheadertexts[\setups{text right}][][][\setups{text left}]
\startsetups[text right]
\rlap{\pagenumber}
\hfill
\getmarking[chapter]
\hfill
\llap{Un Nom}
\stopsetups
\startsetups[text left]
\rlap{Una Person}
\hfill
\getmarking[section]
\hfill
\llap{\pagenumber}
\stopsetups
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Re: [NTG-context] Metafun, difficulty with graphical element in the margin
On 3/18/2022 8:29 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote: Good evening! I have a dictionary where I would like to include thumb-pictures in the margin. — When I use the attached code with a single \startchapter...\stopchapter, it works. However if I add another \startchapter…\stopchapter before loading the setups for the thumb-picture metafun throws an error about not having complete information for performing a transformation. I am currently using the before last version of LMTX-ConTeXT (January 21st 2022). Could someone try to compile? works here (with the latest) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
