Re: [NTG-context] new upload / more math
Hi Hans, congrats for this new society! — At this date it is specially hilarious :-) Happy CMS! Willi > On 1 Apr 2022, at 16:30, jdh via ntg-context wrote: > > > > Wrong. The imperial measurement system, may give Europeans a headache, but > is NOT obsolete, by any means. A good chunk of the world use the imperial > measurment system and may be required in certain books, depending on a > country's standards. > > dh > > - > > > Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > >> Oh, great work, thank you! (While I keep working with WebCMS and avoid >> math...) >> >> And I guess you forgot to mention that you discontinued the support >> for non-metric measures like the obsolete inch, except Potrzebie, of >> course. >> >> Hraban >> >> Am 01.04.22 um 10:02 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: >>> Hi, >>> As most of you know by now, Mikael and I are working on a math >>> support upgrade. In order to let users keep up we uploaded a new >>> version. We have been revisioning some of the more obscure >>> constructs where we have no clue of usage, like pmod, bmod, >>> bordermatrix etc, commands that we took (and reimplemented) >>> decades ago from plain TeX or AMS TeX, assuming that these are >>> standards. >>> In this release, encouraged by the positive response we received >>> from users regarding the new simplealignment construction, and in >>> particular regarding the self-explaining sesac, we have decided to >>> introduced some new constructs. First out is >>> \startformula >>> \startxıɹʇɐɯ >>> \NC a_1 \NC b_1 \NC c_1 \NR >>> \NC a_2 \NC b_2 \NC c_2 \NR >>> \NC a_3 \NC b_3 \NC c_3 \NR >>> \stopxıɹʇɐɯ >>> \stopformula >>> for rotation matrices. This was demanded for some advanced math >>> courses that Mikael teaches. It might inspire users to come up with >>> demands that suits their own obscure but nevertheless interesting >>> math. >>> At some point we realized that, with (also) scientific publishers >>> (of math journals) moving to MS Word and Indesign, we operate in a >>> rather peculiar niche and the fact that we use an upgraded and more >>> granular math engine, made us wonder how to communicate all these >>> new features and standards that we set. It is for that reason that >>> from now on we will operate under the CMS umbrella. That >>> abbreviation stands for ConTeXt Math Society. It has no funny swirly >>> TeX logo which itself is a statement: in Unicode math script and >>> calligraphic alphabets are so messed up that it is impossible to >>> have a reliable and predictable rendering. We go for Dutch and >>> Swedish simplicity in the spirit of W.N. Lansburgh: back to the >>> times before TeX was written (1964). There will be no limits and >>> boundaries set. (Talking math limits and boundaries: these can >>> already go everywhere anyway, as can fences.) >>> So, when we mention CMS, we mean serious math business, but >>> kindergarten math is also embraced! There are no consequences for >>> users: ConTeXt users with a proven math track record are >>> automatically a member, but we are not too picky, everyone is >>> welcome. We don't have honorary members but Taco (the first ConTeXt >>> math user) and Aditya (the most experienced one) might consider >>> themselves as such. Mikael Sundqvist is the chairman, which is a >>> livelong appointment. (A nice side effect is that with Arthur living >>> in Sweden too, that gives us a very strong position in the TeX >>> landscape there.) >>> So, today's upload is sort of special: welcome CMS (ConTeXt Math >>> Shines), goodbye AMS (American Math Second). Of course we're open >>> for suggestions and it being an open society all voices will be >>> heard, but only proper (retro) math cf Lansburgh will be honored. Of >>> course we only listen to ConTeXt users and, as that package is not >>> supposed to be used for serious math, we don't bother about the few >>> publishers left that still do math. >>> Are we done? Not yet. We're in the middle of (colorful and graphic) >>> alignment ornaments and after that we're going to expand and improve >>> multi-line display formulas and equation numbering. >>> It will be no coincidence that the cover of Landburghs book about >>> math typesetting has a prominent 'AWE' embedded in a logo with a >>> lion on top: we hope all users are in awe about what the TeX lion >>> can do. >>> Mikael S & Hans H >>> >> ___ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___ > ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
Same here... I haven't managed to run mkiv for months. Not a huge deal, but anyway. Best, Denis Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context Gesendet: Freitag, 1. April 2022 20:37:30 An: Hans Hagen via ntg-context Cc: Pablo Rodriguez Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] mkiv On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV. Just a comment on MkIV. I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or Windows) for months now. This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you. If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache" directory inside) When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in "$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache". I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache" directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache". BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path. Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
On 4/1/22 18:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > [...] > So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV. Just a comment on MkIV. I don’t remember exactly, but I’m afraid that "context --luatex document" hasn’t been working on my computers (either running Linux or Windows) for months now. This isn’t important for me, but just in case it may be relevant for you. If I run "context --luatex document", I get a new directory '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var' created (which includes a "luatex-cache" directory inside) When I run "mtxrun --generate", all required files are generated in "$HOME/context/tex/texmf-cache/luametatex-cache". I wonder why "mtrun --generate" doesn’t generate a "luatex-cache" directory in the same directory containing "luametatex-cache". BTW, the '$HOME/.texlive2021/texmf-var/luatex-cache/" directory only contains an empty 'context/d10b607aa0e9d13dde6602f491b76cbc/trees/' path. Just in case it may be relevant and many thanks for ConTeXt, Pablo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv
On 2022-04-01 12:20, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: Hi, Normally when we're in the 2022 TeXlive code freeze period, there is a snapshot release but because there hasn't been that many changes, maybe a few patches, in MKIV there is no real snapshot this year. But for the sake of consistency we can consider today's version that snapshot. It basically means that MKIV has been frozen and is even more frozen now. All new stuff goes in MKXL (aka LMTX) and I suppose that next year we let that end up in TeXlive alongside frozen MKII and MKIV. Of course bugs will be fixed as usual. So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV. Hans With the freeze of MKIV, how will modules be managed? LMTX still ships without. A while back (https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg100179.html) it was suggest that this would, at some point, change. -- Rik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mkiv
Hi, Normally when we're in the 2022 TeXlive code freeze period, there is a snapshot release but because there hasn't been that many changes, maybe a few patches, in MKIV there is no real snapshot this year. But for the sake of consistency we can consider today's version that snapshot. It basically means that MKIV has been frozen and is even more frozen now. All new stuff goes in MKXL (aka LMTX) and I suppose that next year we let that end up in TeXlive alongside frozen MKII and MKIV. Of course bugs will be fixed as usual. So, today is the day we kind of formally freeze MKIV. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new upload / more math
Wrong. The imperial measurement system, may give Europeans a headache, but is NOT obsolete, by any means. A good chunk of the world use the imperial measurment system and may be required in certain books, depending on a country's standards. dh - Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > Oh, great work, thank you! (While I keep working with WebCMS and avoid > math...) > > And I guess you forgot to mention that you discontinued the support > for non-metric measures like the obsolete inch, except Potrzebie, of > course. > > Hraban > > Am 01.04.22 um 10:02 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: > > Hi, > > As most of you know by now, Mikael and I are working on a math > > support upgrade. In order to let users keep up we uploaded a new > > version. We have been revisioning some of the more obscure > > constructs where we have no clue of usage, like pmod, bmod, > > bordermatrix etc, commands that we took (and reimplemented) > > decades ago from plain TeX or AMS TeX, assuming that these are > > standards. > > In this release, encouraged by the positive response we received > > from users regarding the new simplealignment construction, and in > > particular regarding the self-explaining sesac, we have decided to > > introduced some new constructs. First out is > > \startformula > > \startxıɹʇɐɯ > > \NC a_1 \NC b_1 \NC c_1 \NR > > \NC a_2 \NC b_2 \NC c_2 \NR > > \NC a_3 \NC b_3 \NC c_3 \NR > > \stopxıɹʇɐɯ > > \stopformula > > for rotation matrices. This was demanded for some advanced math > > courses that Mikael teaches. It might inspire users to come up with > > demands that suits their own obscure but nevertheless interesting > > math. > > At some point we realized that, with (also) scientific publishers > > (of math journals) moving to MS Word and Indesign, we operate in a > > rather peculiar niche and the fact that we use an upgraded and more > > granular math engine, made us wonder how to communicate all these > > new features and standards that we set. It is for that reason that > > from now on we will operate under the CMS umbrella. That > > abbreviation stands for ConTeXt Math Society. It has no funny swirly > > TeX logo which itself is a statement: in Unicode math script and > > calligraphic alphabets are so messed up that it is impossible to > > have a reliable and predictable rendering. We go for Dutch and > > Swedish simplicity in the spirit of W.N. Lansburgh: back to the > > times before TeX was written (1964). There will be no limits and > > boundaries set. (Talking math limits and boundaries: these can > > already go everywhere anyway, as can fences.) > > So, when we mention CMS, we mean serious math business, but > > kindergarten math is also embraced! There are no consequences for > > users: ConTeXt users with a proven math track record are > > automatically a member, but we are not too picky, everyone is > > welcome. We don't have honorary members but Taco (the first ConTeXt > > math user) and Aditya (the most experienced one) might consider > > themselves as such. Mikael Sundqvist is the chairman, which is a > > livelong appointment. (A nice side effect is that with Arthur living > > in Sweden too, that gives us a very strong position in the TeX > > landscape there.) > > So, today's upload is sort of special: welcome CMS (ConTeXt Math > > Shines), goodbye AMS (American Math Second). Of course we're open > > for suggestions and it being an open society all voices will be > > heard, but only proper (retro) math cf Lansburgh will be honored. Of > > course we only listen to ConTeXt users and, as that package is not > > supposed to be used for serious math, we don't bother about the few > > publishers left that still do math. > > Are we done? Not yet. We're in the middle of (colorful and graphic) > > alignment ornaments and after that we're going to expand and improve > > multi-line display formulas and equation numbering. > > It will be no coincidence that the cover of Landburghs book about > > math typesetting has a prominent 'AWE' embedded in a logo with a > > lion on top: we hope all users are in awe about what the TeX lion > > can do. > > Mikael S & Hans H > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl /
Re: [NTG-context] new upload / more math
Oh, great work, thank you! (While I keep working with WebCMS and avoid math...) And I guess you forgot to mention that you discontinued the support for non-metric measures like the obsolete inch, except Potrzebie, of course. Hraban Am 01.04.22 um 10:02 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: Hi, As most of you know by now, Mikael and I are working on a math support upgrade. In order to let users keep up we uploaded a new version. We have been revisioning some of the more obscure constructs where we have no clue of usage, like pmod, bmod, bordermatrix etc, commands that we took (and reimplemented) decades ago from plain TeX or AMS TeX, assuming that these are standards. In this release, encouraged by the positive response we received from users regarding the new simplealignment construction, and in particular regarding the self-explaining sesac, we have decided to introduced some new constructs. First out is \startformula \startxıɹʇɐɯ \NC a_1 \NC b_1 \NC c_1 \NR \NC a_2 \NC b_2 \NC c_2 \NR \NC a_3 \NC b_3 \NC c_3 \NR \stopxıɹʇɐɯ \stopformula for rotation matrices. This was demanded for some advanced math courses that Mikael teaches. It might inspire users to come up with demands that suits their own obscure but nevertheless interesting math. At some point we realized that, with (also) scientific publishers (of math journals) moving to MS Word and Indesign, we operate in a rather peculiar niche and the fact that we use an upgraded and more granular math engine, made us wonder how to communicate all these new features and standards that we set. It is for that reason that from now on we will operate under the CMS umbrella. That abbreviation stands for ConTeXt Math Society. It has no funny swirly TeX logo which itself is a statement: in Unicode math script and calligraphic alphabets are so messed up that it is impossible to have a reliable and predictable rendering. We go for Dutch and Swedish simplicity in the spirit of W.N. Lansburgh: back to the times before TeX was written (1964). There will be no limits and boundaries set. (Talking math limits and boundaries: these can already go everywhere anyway, as can fences.) So, when we mention CMS, we mean serious math business, but kindergarten math is also embraced! There are no consequences for users: ConTeXt users with a proven math track record are automatically a member, but we are not too picky, everyone is welcome. We don't have honorary members but Taco (the first ConTeXt math user) and Aditya (the most experienced one) might consider themselves as such. Mikael Sundqvist is the chairman, which is a livelong appointment. (A nice side effect is that with Arthur living in Sweden too, that gives us a very strong position in the TeX landscape there.) So, today's upload is sort of special: welcome CMS (ConTeXt Math Shines), goodbye AMS (American Math Second). Of course we're open for suggestions and it being an open society all voices will be heard, but only proper (retro) math cf Lansburgh will be honored. Of course we only listen to ConTeXt users and, as that package is not supposed to be used for serious math, we don't bother about the few publishers left that still do math. Are we done? Not yet. We're in the middle of (colorful and graphic) alignment ornaments and after that we're going to expand and improve multi-line display formulas and equation numbering. It will be no coincidence that the cover of Landburghs book about math typesetting has a prominent 'AWE' embedded in a logo with a lion on top: we hope all users are in awe about what the TeX lion can do. Mikael S & Hans H ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] new upload / more math
Hi, As most of you know by now, Mikael and I are working on a math support upgrade. In order to let users keep up we uploaded a new version. We have been revisioning some of the more obscure constructs where we have no clue of usage, like pmod, bmod, bordermatrix etc, commands that we took (and reimplemented) decades ago from plain TeX or AMS TeX, assuming that these are standards. In this release, encouraged by the positive response we received from users regarding the new simplealignment construction, and in particular regarding the self-explaining sesac, we have decided to introduced some new constructs. First out is \startformula \startxıɹʇɐɯ \NC a_1 \NC b_1 \NC c_1 \NR \NC a_2 \NC b_2 \NC c_2 \NR \NC a_3 \NC b_3 \NC c_3 \NR \stopxıɹʇɐɯ \stopformula for rotation matrices. This was demanded for some advanced math courses that Mikael teaches. It might inspire users to come up with demands that suits their own obscure but nevertheless interesting math. At some point we realized that, with (also) scientific publishers (of math journals) moving to MS Word and Indesign, we operate in a rather peculiar niche and the fact that we use an upgraded and more granular math engine, made us wonder how to communicate all these new features and standards that we set. It is for that reason that from now on we will operate under the CMS umbrella. That abbreviation stands for ConTeXt Math Society. It has no funny swirly TeX logo which itself is a statement: in Unicode math script and calligraphic alphabets are so messed up that it is impossible to have a reliable and predictable rendering. We go for Dutch and Swedish simplicity in the spirit of W.N. Lansburgh: back to the times before TeX was written (1964). There will be no limits and boundaries set. (Talking math limits and boundaries: these can already go everywhere anyway, as can fences.) So, when we mention CMS, we mean serious math business, but kindergarten math is also embraced! There are no consequences for users: ConTeXt users with a proven math track record are automatically a member, but we are not too picky, everyone is welcome. We don't have honorary members but Taco (the first ConTeXt math user) and Aditya (the most experienced one) might consider themselves as such. Mikael Sundqvist is the chairman, which is a livelong appointment. (A nice side effect is that with Arthur living in Sweden too, that gives us a very strong position in the TeX landscape there.) So, today's upload is sort of special: welcome CMS (ConTeXt Math Shines), goodbye AMS (American Math Second). Of course we're open for suggestions and it being an open society all voices will be heard, but only proper (retro) math cf Lansburgh will be honored. Of course we only listen to ConTeXt users and, as that package is not supposed to be used for serious math, we don't bother about the few publishers left that still do math. Are we done? Not yet. We're in the middle of (colorful and graphic) alignment ornaments and after that we're going to expand and improve multi-line display formulas and equation numbering. It will be no coincidence that the cover of Landburghs book about math typesetting has a prominent 'AWE' embedded in a logo with a lion on top: we hope all users are in awe about what the TeX lion can do. Mikael S & Hans H - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
