Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 07:00:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > > On 5/9/2023 6:24 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be > > honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification, > > whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math > > environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co > > without an error > > > > I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already > > made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret > Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load > a font setup and that one doesn't have math fonts it will not be set up > right and then you get these parameter relates messages. The minion math > font is supported when you have it installed although we're not sure if the > tweaks will work okay. I only have an old evaluation copy that I can't use > outside testing anyway, and I don't have the minion fonts that can be used > in documents (acrobat fonts are only for display) so I never use minion > anyway. > > Although every math environment is possible (after all there are not than > manyu math fonts) one always has to match them properly with serif and sans > fonts (relative scaling etc). > > When someone wants support for some commercial font, they have to buy us a > few copies with no constraints. (Normally in a project we just get them > anyway.) There are plenty of examples in the type-imp-* files that show the > way. > > Hans Thanks for the info Hans. I'll check it out again. About a month or so ago I went over the fonts used in math with luatex lmtx and it was more of a refreshing course than anything else. TeX Gyre and so forth. And a similar approach which I used in handling these fonts in mkii before. Recently someone made the suggestion of working or the intent to work or the suggestion or whatever of tackling mnssymbol on luatex. I don't know about that but.. I don't know. Perhaps I misunderstood I've used this family of minion and myriad before, but I still think it has the same audience than the glyphs used by the chinese at the beginning of the typesetting history> weddings, funerals, pamphlets, etiquette cards, calendars, arithmetic tables and so forth. It has more flare than perhaps a lucida. But the latter, subjectively speaking, is perhaps more dry but also more straightforward and legible. For me anyway. But when I see that a simple page and nothing fancy really, cannot be processed under lmtx no matter how much tweaking is performed under the hood something is not quite right the same (similar) screenshot attached here is under latex. Something similar is what I wanted to have, but couldn't. I'll check out your suggestion. Thanks again Hans > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ > -- AmigaDOS Beer: The company has gone out of business, but their recipe has been picked up by some weird German company, so now this beer will be an import. This beer never really sold very well because the original manufacturer didn't understand marketing. Like Unix Beer, AmigaDOS Beer fans are an extremely loyal and loud group. It originally came in a 16-oz. can, but now comes in 32-oz. cans too. When this can was originally introduced, it appeared flashy and colorful, but the design hasn't changed much over the years, so it appears dated now. Critics of this beer claim that it is only meant for watching TV anyway. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
On 5/9/2023 6:24 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification, whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co without an error I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load a font setup and that one doesn't have math fonts it will not be set up right and then you get these parameter relates messages. The minion math font is supported when you have it installed although we're not sure if the tweaks will work okay. I only have an old evaluation copy that I can't use outside testing anyway, and I don't have the minion fonts that can be used in documents (acrobat fonts are only for display) so I never use minion anyway. Although every math environment is possible (after all there are not than manyu math fonts) one always has to match them properly with serif and sans fonts (relative scaling etc). When someone wants support for some commercial font, they have to buy us a few copies with no constraints. (Normally in a project we just get them anyway.) There are plenty of examples in the type-imp-* files that show the way. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
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ce_number \strc_formulas_flush_number
> \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula
> \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative
> \v!formula \endcsname
> > > \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
> > >
> > > \stopformula
> > >
> > > \startformula
> > > \int_{\infty}
> > > >> \stopformula
> > >
> > > Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been
> set. This is
> > > normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family
> slots. Your font
> > > set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
> > >
> > > What parameter is this referring to here?
> >
> > Looks like you might not have the Minion math font. Did you buy it?
>
> Oh. That's what the math slot refers to then! I didn't buy it. I've been
> shoved
> acroread before without asking and I had the whole set sans math
>
> thanks Mikael
> >
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Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
>
> On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:46:42PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context
> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Carlos via ntg-context
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello list
> > >
> > > the whole error message I get is
> > >
> > > tex error > tex error on line 90 in file
> > > ./atestinminion-context.mkiv: Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with
> > > id 8 in style 0 is not set
> > >
> > > \m_operator_text
> > > \endgroup \Ustopmathmode
> > > \m_operator_text
> > > \stopforceddisplaymath
> > > \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
> > > \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
> > > \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
> > > \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
> > > \m_operator_text
> > > \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
> > > \afterdisplayspace \egroup
> > > \m_operator_text
> > > \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number
> > > \dostarttagged \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula
> > > \c_strc_formulas_n \csname \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative
> > > \v!formula \endcsname
> > > \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
> > >
> > > \stopformula
> > >
> > > \startformula
> > > \int_{\infty}
> > > >> \stopformula
> > >
> > > Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set.
> > > This is
> > > normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
> > > Your font
> > > set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
> > >
> > > What parameter is this referring to here?
> >
> > Looks like you might not have the Minion math font. Did you buy it?
>
> Oh. That's what the math slot refers to then! I didn't buy it. I've been
> shoved
> acroread before without asking and I had the whole set sans math
>
With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be
honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification,
whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math
environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co
without an error
I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already
made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret
> thanks Mikael
thanks again Mikael for clarifying it. I wasn't sure.
> >
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Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 04:46:42PM +0200, Mikael Sundqvist via ntg-context
wrote:
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Carlos via ntg-context
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello list
> >
> > the whole error message I get is
> >
> > tex error > tex error on line 90 in file
> > ./atestinminion-context.mkiv: Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id
> > 8 in style 0 is not set
> >
> > \m_operator_text
> > \endgroup \Ustopmathmode
> > \m_operator_text
> > \stopforceddisplaymath
> > \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
> > \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
> > \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
> > \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
> > \m_operator_text
> > \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
> > \afterdisplayspace \egroup
> > \m_operator_text
> > \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged
> > \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname
> > \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
> > \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
> >
> > \stopformula
> >
> > \startformula
> > \int_{\infty}
> > >> \stopformula
> >
> > Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set.
> > This is
> > normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
> > Your font
> > set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
> >
> > What parameter is this referring to here?
>
> Looks like you might not have the Minion math font. Did you buy it?
Oh. That's what the math slot refers to then! I didn't buy it. I've been shoved
acroread before without asking and I had the whole set sans math
thanks Mikael
>
> /Mikael
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Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
>
> tex error > tex error on line 90 in file ./atestinminion-context.mkiv:
> Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id 8 in style 0 is not set
>
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \Ustopmathmode
> \m_operator_text
> \stopforceddisplaymath
> \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
> \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
> \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
> \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
> \afterdisplayspace \egroup
> \m_operator_text
> \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged
> \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname
> \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
> \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
>
> \stopformula
>
> \startformula
>
> \int_{\infty}
>
> >> \stopformula
> >>
>
> Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This
> is
> normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your
> font
> set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
>
> What parameter is this referring to here?
>
> If I were to load sans it finishes off without errors on the math side,
> but then again, doesn't load sans at all
>
> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf,
> minionpro-regular.otf
>
> And as you can guess, the above is not I was looking forward to
in other words, this is wanted
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: minionpro-bold.otf, minionpro-it.otf,
minionpro-regular.otf, myriadpro-regular.otf
but then again, it's not possible without the preloaded
latinmodern-math if a math environment is included.
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Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 4:20 PM Carlos via ntg-context
wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello list
>
> the whole error message I get is
>
> tex error > tex error on line 90 in file ./atestinminion-context.mkiv:
> Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id 8 in style 0 is not set
>
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \Ustopmathmode
> \m_operator_text
> \stopforceddisplaymath
> \egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
> \strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
> \strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
> \strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
> \m_operator_text
> \endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
> \afterdisplayspace \egroup
> \m_operator_text
> \strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged
> \t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname
> \e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
> \dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
>
> \stopformula
>
> \startformula
> \int_{\infty}
> >> \stopformula
>
> Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This
> is
> normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your
> font
> set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
>
> What parameter is this referring to here?
Looks like you might not have the Minion math font. Did you buy it?
/Mikael
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[NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots.
Hello list
the whole error message I get is
tex error > tex error on line 90 in file ./atestinminion-context.mkiv:
Math error: parameter 'operatorsize' with id 8 in style 0 is not set
\m_operator_text
\endgroup \Ustopmathmode
\m_operator_text
\stopforceddisplaymath
\egroup \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode \else
\strc_math_number_check_offsets \fi \ifcase \c_strc_formulas_frame_mode
\strc_math_number_check \or \strc_math_number_check_outside \else
\strc_math_number_check_inside \fi \str
\m_operator_text
\endgroup \strc_formulas_endstrut \stopinnermath
\afterdisplayspace \egroup
\m_operator_text
\strc_formulas_place_number \strc_formulas_flush_number \dostarttagged
\t!formulacontent \empty \dotagregisterformula \c_strc_formulas_n \csname
\e!stop \formulaparameter \c!alternative \v!formula \endcsname
\dostoptagged \dostoptagged \nonoindentati
\stopformula
\startformula
\int_{\infty}
>> \stopformula
>>
Sorry, but I can't typeset math unless various parameters have been set. This is
normally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. Your
font
set is lacking at least the parameter mentioned earlier.
What parameter is this referring to here?
If I were to load sans it finishes off without errors on the math side,
but then again, doesn't load sans at all
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 2 files: latinmodern-math.otf,
minionpro-regular.otf
And as you can guess, the above is not I was looking forward to
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Re: [NTG-context] new module installer and .tar.gz compression
On 5/9/2023 9:30 AM, Hans van der Meer via ntg-context wrote: On 9 May 2023, at 01:19, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: On 5/8/2023 8:55 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: But either the module scripts should re-pack tgz archives or the installer must learn to handle them. The script now -- before installing uninstalls a previous installation -- can uninstall an installed module -- can list installed modules Please don't do this! I fear it will break my habit of keeping older versions that worked for me. As a safeguard against things that are broken and will have to wait when repaired! well, if you install a new module th eold module can interfere; nothing else get touched, we're talking modules that users esxplcitly install Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new module installer and .tar.gz compression
> On 9 May 2023, at 01:19, Hans Hagen via ntg-context > wrote: > > On 5/8/2023 8:55 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > >> But either the module scripts should re-pack tgz archives or the installer >> must learn to handle them. > The script now > > -- before installing uninstalls a previous installation > -- can uninstall an installed module > -- can list installed modules > Please don't do this! I fear it will break my habit of keeping older versions that worked for me. As a safeguard against things that are broken and will have to wait when repaired! dr. Hans van der Meer > For the moment I disable a few badly packages zips: > > metaducks, sudoku, aquamints, simpleslides > > as they put files in the root and their own directories and I am not adding a > zip-root remover and additional checkers. > > No upload yet, > > Hans > > > - > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > - > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] new module installer and .tar.gz compression
On 5/9/2023 7:17 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Am 09.05.23 um 01:19 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context: On 5/8/2023 8:55 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: But either the module scripts should re-pack tgz archives or the installer must learn to handle them. The script now -- before installing uninstalls a previous installation -- can uninstall an installed module -- can list installed modules Great! For the moment I disable a few badly packages zips: metaducks, sudoku, aquamints, simpleslides as they put files in the root and their own directories and I am not adding a zip-root remover and additional checkers. I regard it good practice to have README, LICENSE and VERSION files in the root. A public git repository without these is incomplete, and if we use the zip/tgz packaging of platforms like github or gitea (codeberg), we can’t exclude them. The installer script could just ignore/delete them. I currently wipe them but it's extra work and who knows what shows up in the future. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___
