[NTG-context] czech sorting
Hi, again czech sorting in MkIV is little wrong, I found it out coincidentally, when I was testing it. Order of character with accent is strange. Look at the file in attachment. Is there some way how to set order in which groups are supposed to be sorted, like in MkII? Also I really wonder why letter R is not included in sorting. Tomas P. cz-sort.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document cz-sort.tex Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
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From: Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
Also I have question. In my bachelor thesis I'm describe language support
for
ConTeXt and when I tried add some experimental language into ConTeXt (I
define system constants and add \loadcorefile{lang-exp} to context.mkii
and
context.mkiv) and when generating format for MkII everything was ok but
for
MkIV ConTeXt complained he can't find file lang-exp.tex (I paste it in
base
folder to other source codes). Any idea whats wrong? In MkIV must I
change
something else as well?
Did you run luatools --generate.
Aditya
Thanks, I forgot about this. It's working now
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[NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
Hi,
is czech sorting in MkIV working? When I tried it with this code:
\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime [utf-8]
\starttext
\setupregister[index][language=cz]
\index{chobot}chobot
\index{áro}áro
\index{akát}akát
\index{Áčko}Áčko
\index{astma}astma
\index{ámerika}ámerika
\index{arábie}arábie
\index{Árun}Árun
\index{žába}žába
\index{cibule}cibule
\index{čára}čára
\index{bomba}bomba
\index{Auto}Auto
\index{arek}arek
\placeindex
\stoptext
ConTeXt sorted only letters without accent and rest of the words just put
before index without any kind of sorting, also accented characters inside words
are sorted wrong way. Is it just me or the sorting is really broken? Is there
some text how to do sorting in MkIV so I can fix it, or I just need to follow
rest of the sort-lan.lua to write sorting rules?
Also in MkII what commands \exportsortreduction and \exportsortshortcut do? I
couldn't figured it out from source codes.
Thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
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From: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 7:26 PM
To: Tomáš Pustelník xpusteln...@seznam.cz
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
On 15-5-2010 7:10, Tomáš Pustelník wrote:
I'm using version 2010.05.13 12:15 so if there isn't some special way
how to download beta I should be using lates version. Also in MkIV I set
sorting with this command?
normally the garden is a few hours behind the website
you can fetch the beta from the website and unzip it in texmf-context and
then run luatools --generate
\enabletrackers[sorters.tests]
just tracking
Thanks, it's working now, but still it sort some words bit different
compared to MkII. But it's ok for now, I will check czech norm and try to
fix it if needed.
Also I have question. In my bachelor thesis I'm describe language support
for ConTeXt and when I tried add some experimental language into ConTeXt (I
define system constants and add \loadcorefile{lang-exp} to context.mkii and
context.mkiv) and when generating format for MkII everything was ok but for
MkIV ConTeXt complained he can't find file lang-exp.tex (I paste it in base
folder to other source codes). Any idea whats wrong? In MkIV must I change
something else as well?
Tomas P.
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Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
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From: Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] czech sorting in MiIV
On 15-5-2010 8:14, Tomáš Pustelník wrote:
Also I have question. In my bachelor thesis I'm describe language
support for ConTeXt and when I tried add some experimental language into
ConTeXt (I define system constants and add \loadcorefile{lang-exp} to
context.mkii and context.mkiv) and when generating format for MkII
everything was ok but for MkIV ConTeXt complained he can't find file
lang-exp.tex (I paste it in base folder to other source codes). Any idea
whats wrong? In MkIV must I change something else as well?
Ah .. you look in the wrong spot. There's a file:
mult-def.lua
and interfaces are defined there. I generate the mult-* files using
mtxrun interface --context
Now, if you just want to experiment, you need to patch mult-def.lua.
You can make a mult-def-mine.lua:
local t = require mult-def.lua
t.commands.framed.xx = frmd
-- print(table.serialize(t.commands.framed))
return t
I patched mtx-interface.lua so that you can say;
mtxrun interface --context mult-def-mine.lua
There is also --messages for the message files.
Of course you have to make a cont-xx.tex file as well.
Hans
Thank you, this will be handy (actually I was planing to ask about user
interface as well). But what I had in mind was new language definition (like
lang-sla, lang-ger and so on), perhaps I could be more precise.
But anyway, thanks. As I said, I will use this as well.
Tomas P.
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[NTG-context] sorting
Hi, thanks for your previous answers, they helped me. But now I'm little lost in sorting (in registers -- index etc.). I know there is file sort-lan.mkii with sorting rules for czech language, but Context is not sorting by these rules (letter ch is not recognized). So, is there some way how to use it? (I can add it to context.mkii and generate format again, but I'm not sure, it was supposed to be this way). Also mkiv version of this file doesn't exist, but sort-lan.lua does. So how is it handled in MkIV? Thank for your answers Tomas Pustelnik___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mistake in lang-cjk.mkiv
Also I would like to ask if file lang-spe.mkii have some equivalent in MkIV and where the language specifics are defined (in which file)? Or is it treated in enco files? in mkiv we don't have (want) language specifics ... why do yoi need them? Hans Well I actually don't need them, I browse source codes and I found it there. It looks quite useful so I was wondering, if in MkIV is this implemented as well. Could you please tell me, why specifics weren't implemented in MkIV (why don't we want them)? And is there any other mechanics which replace language specifics in MkIV? And just to be sure. In MkII language specifics are still working, right? Also are there any documents or information sources where I could find info about encoding in ConTeXt? I could use them for my bachelor thesis. Thank you for answer. Tomas Pustelnik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \installlanguage questions
Hello, I have few questions about command \installlanguage. First, in file lang-ini is command \setuplanguage for default language. It has parameters lefthyphen, righthyphen and hyphen. I would like to ask if these parameters can be used in command \installlanguage or not and what is their funcionality becouse I have tried use command: \setuplanguage[cz][lefthyphen=@,righthyphen=@,hyphen=€] and I didn't see any changes. I thought it's used to setup hyphen mark when the word is spilt at the end of line but I still get symbol - Also I would like to know whats the difference in \date and parameter date in \installlanguage? In parameter date in \installlanguage are curly backets, it's just some mask for command \date? Or those two are entirely different? Thank you answers. Tomas Pustelnik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] mistake in lang-cjk.mkiv
Hi, I have found a glitch in lang-cjk.mkiv in definition of Japanese language name of days are shifted. It begins at line 136, sunday is actualy monday etc. In source code it looks like that: \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!sunday=月曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!monday=火曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!tuesday=水曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!wednesday=木曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!thursday=金曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!friday=土曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!saturday=日曜日] but it should be: \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!monday=月曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!tuesday=火曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!wednesday=水曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!thursday=木曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!friday=金曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!saturday=土曜日] \setuplabeltext [\s!ja][\v!sunday=日曜日] Also I would like to ask if file lang-spe.mkii have some equivalent in MkIV and where the language specifics are defined (in which file)? Or is it treated in enco files? Thank you for answers. Tomas Pustelnik___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] definition in mkiv
From: Wolfgang Schuster
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] definition in mkiv
Am 22.04.10 13:54, schrieb Tomáš Pustelník:
Hi,
During my work on bachelor thesis I was running throught source codes and I
would like to ask about equivalent of file syst-gen.mkii in MkIV. And if there
isn't one. Where I can found definitions of macros define in this file (like
\dosingleargument and so on).
syst-aux.mkiv (merge of syst-gen.mkii and syst-ext.mkii)
Also I have another question. In file page-lay.mkii there is definition:
\def\addpagecutmarks % #1
{\executeifdefined{\??ly:n:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}\gobbleoneargument}
I don't understand this part: {\??ly:n:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}, especially I
don't know what :n: does or means. Can someone briefly explain it to me?
The 'n' is to distinguish between the values for ...cutmarks and ...colormarks
\def\addpagecutmarks % #1
{\executeifdefined{\??ly:n:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}\gobbleoneargument}
\def\addpagecolormarks % #1
{\executeifdefined{\??ly:c:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}\gobbleoneargument}
Thank you for answer,
I have just another question. On wiki in System macros/ Handling arguments
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros/Handling_Arguments) are mentioned
these macros:
\dosingleargumentwithset \command[#1]
\dodoubleargumentwithset \command[#1][#2]
\dotripleargumentwithset \command[#1][#2][#3]
\dodoubleemptywithset\command[#1][#2]
\dotripleemptywithset\command[#1][#2][#3]I'm not sure but I think, that I
read somewhere that these are old and obsolete. Is true or these macros are
still in use and I just mistook it?ThanksTomas Pustelnik
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[NTG-context] definition in mkiv
Hi,
During my work on bachelor thesis I was running throught source codes and I
would like to ask about equivalent of file syst-gen.mkii in MkIV. And if there
isn't one. Where I can found definitions of macros define in this file (like
\dosingleargument and so on).
Also I have another question. In file page-lay.mkii there is definition:
\def\addpagecutmarks % #1
{\executeifdefined{\??ly:n:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}\gobbleoneargument}
I don't understand this part: {\??ly:n:\c!marking:\@@lymarking}, especially I
don't know what :n: does or means. Can someone briefly explain it to me?
Thanks for your help.
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Re: [NTG-context] \installlanguage syntax
Hi, I'm using mkII because I wasn't able to make mkIV work on my Windows. Anyway thank you for answer It helped me. I have just one another question. How should I write parametr lefthyphenmin. I mean precise dimension. I tryed several possibilities but none of them worked. Thank you Tomas Pustelnik Hi, I'm student at Faculty of Informatics at Masaryk university and I'm writing bachelor's thesis this year. One part of the thesis is to document language support and implementation in ConTeXt so someone can use it to implement new language. Right now I'm stuck with command \installlannguage. I can't figure out what these parametres are doing: \c!leftsentence=---, \c!rightsentence=---, \c!leftsubsentence=---, \c!rightsubsentence=---, So I'would really appreciated some more info about them. Thank you for your answers. are you using context mkiv? it makes sense to focus on that as the main development happens there and it's also more fun anyway, these parameters are related to: test ||bla|| test and nested usage; the meaning of --- depends on the font settings as well (tex ligature) Hans ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \installlanguage syntax
Am 03.11.2009 um 14:49 schrieb Tomáš Pustelník: Hi, I'm using mkII because I wasn't able to make mkIV work on my Windows. Anyway thank you for answer It helped me. I have just one another question. How should I write parametr lefthyphenmin. I mean precise dimension. I tryed several possibilities but none of them worked. \installlanguage [...] [lefthyphenmin=number, % e.g. lefthyphenmin=3 righthyphenmin=number] Wolfgang Thank you, it works now. Tomas Pustelnik ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \installlanguage syntax
Hi, I'm student at Faculty of Informatics at Masaryk university and I'm writing bachelor's thesis this year. One part of the thesis is to document language support and implementation in ConTeXt so someone can use it to implement new language. Right now I'm stuck with command \installlannguage. I can't figure out what these parametres are doing: \c!leftsentence=---, \c!rightsentence=---, \c!leftsubsentence=---, \c!rightsubsentence=---, So I'would really appreciated some more info about them. Thank you for your answers. Tomas Pustelnik___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
