Re: [NTG-context] common counter

2006-09-05 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I'll try asking my question a little bit different:

With

\setupnumber[formula] [number=davidsnumber]

the origin formulanumber(what is its name?) will be overwritten and
replaced by davidsnumber.

But with

\setupnumber[figure] [number=davidsnumber]

the origin figurenumbering remains untouched and davidsnumber gets an 
additionl counter.

So there are the following questions:

- Why is this different behaviour?
- How can I replace the figurecounter by davidsnumber such, that 
captions and figuretables will use this new counter?
- Are the origin formula/figure-counters compatible with counters
defined by \definenumber? Or are they other animals?

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] common counter

2006-09-03 Thread wwl
Hallo!

This is a question to a somewhat older post:

 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:55:28 +0200
 From: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Common counter
 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 David Arnold wrote:
  This is excellent. Now, how can I include this
 
  \placeformula[eq:nine]
  \startformula
  f(x)=x^2
  \stopformula
 
  with the same common counter as remark and definition below?

 hm, it's incredible what users come up with but this time you're
 lucky -) 
 
 \defineenumeration[whatever]
 
 \definenumber[davidsnumber]
 
 \setupnumber[whatever][number=davidsnumber]
 \setupnumber[formula] [number=davidsnumber]

% If one says additionally here:

\setupnumber[figure][number=davidsnumber]

 
 \starttext
 
 \placeformula[x]
 \startformula x\stopformula
 
 \startwhatever x\stopwhatever
 
 \placeformula[x]
 \startformula y\stopformula
 
 \startwhatever y\stopwhatever

% and here for example:

\placefigure{image}{\framed[width=1cm,height=1cm]{image}}
 
 \stoptext

then, davidsnumber is incremented by \placefigure but not used for 
the caption etc.

How can I extend the usage of davidsnumber to captions and 
figuretables?

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout and textwidth/textmargin

2006-08-27 Thread wwl
 Well, I start from the beginning with odd/even layout setting, and
 the  
 following does not work. The behaviour I see is that only the odd
 setting  
 is used. What is wrong in there?
 
 \definelayout[odd]
[width=middle,
 backspace=7cm,
 cutspace=5cm]
 
 \definelayout[even]
[backspace=8cm,
 cutspace=2cm,
 width=middle]
 
 \setuplayout
 
 %\showlayout
 
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{4}{
 \section{Hello}
 \input knuth \endgraf
 \subsection{Sub Hello}
 \input tufte \endgraf}
 \stoptext

Hallo!

This doesn't work here, too!

The wiki said it should work. So, maybe there ist something broken in 
the meantime.

In 'page-lay.tex' I found something with

\setuplayout[odd][state=stop]
\setuplayout[even][state=stop]

so

a.) Not alone \definelayout but also \setuplayout should work with 
odd|even.
b.) Because there is something to stop here, there may be some need 
to start it?

Btw. \definelayout[1][] doesn't work too.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] verb-c

2006-08-18 Thread wwl
  I have a little problem with the module 'verb-c'.
 
  Backslashes in verbatim text seem to disturb colors.
  
  \usemodule[verb-c]
  \setupcolors[state=start]
  \setuptyping[C][color=blue,palet=colorpretty,
  numbering=line]
  \starttext
  Davor
  \startC
  #include stdio.h
 
  int main()
  {
printf(Hallo\n);
  }
  \stopC
  Danach
  \stoptext
  
  Problem:
 
  'Danach' is blue!
  Last line number has the same color as the
  quotet String Hallo ConTeXt\n.
 
  Delete the newline char and all is ok!
 
  How can this be fixed?
 
   puts(Hallo);
 
   nikolai

You can't be serious!

Escape-Sequences like \n,\r,\t,\123 or \xef are integral part of the 
C-language and I have this in many different places in a lot of 
C-source files.

Is there no solution? Why does this happen?


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] table questions

2006-08-18 Thread wwl
  --
  \|10 as a relacement for \VL gives me thicker vert. lines in that
  position only. How can I define a thicker vert. Line for the
  whole column? My attempts in \starttable[..\|10..] doesn't work.
  --

Is there an other way of changing linethickness of single vertical 
lines?

  Why is there so little space between the two rows of the table
  below? 
 
  \starttable[|l|p(.7\textwidth)|]
  \HL
  \NC bla1 \VL Eins \type{zwei} drei. Eins zwei drei. Eins zwei
 drei
  \type{vier}
  oder \type{sechs}l. Das ist der Leerraum zwischen den Spalten 
  \type{n}. \FR
  \NC bla2 \VL Eins, zwei \type{drei} \LR
  \HL
  \stoptable
  
 
 \NC \FR and \NC \LR
 you need to finish the column

Ahh! This solves most problems with the last example, too.

The wiki-example with colored rows should then be corrected.

Are there reasons other, than with \BL, \CL, 
to use \FR, \LR without \NC?


  --
  The two tables in the example below are differing and show, that
  \SetTableToWidth{0pt} doesn't reset the situation.
 
  What is the defaultvalue/resetvalue for \SetTableToWidth{}?
  
 i had to look that one up in thrd-tab -)
 
 it sets a token list
 
 \unprotect [\the\!taTableSpread] \protect
 
 This is a better definition than the orginal TaBlE one:
 
 \def\SetTableToWidth#1%
  
 {\doifelsenothing{#1}{\!taTableSpread\emptytoks}{\!taTableSpread{to
 #1}}}

Yes, this would be a solution!


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Re: [NTG-context] verb-c.tex

2006-08-18 Thread wwl
 can it be that the (here commented)
 
 \beginofpretty[\!!prettyeight]%
 \beginofpretty[\!!prettynine]%
 
 pickup is not needed? i guess that it has no matching stop and since
 colors are grouped ... 

Yes, works!

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] verb-c.tex

2006-08-17 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I have a little problem with the module 'verb-c'.

Backslashes in verbatim text seem to disturb colors.

\usemodule[verb-c]
\setupcolors[state=start]
\setuptyping[C][color=blue,palet=colorpretty,   
numbering=line]
\starttext
Davor
\startC
#include stdio.h

int main()
{
  printf(Hallo\n);
}
\stopC
Danach
\stoptext

Problem:

'Danach' is blue!
Last line number has the same color as the 
quotet String Hallo ConTeXt\n.

Delete the newline char and all is ok!

How can this be fixed?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] some questions

2006-08-15 Thread wwl
  Should'nt \arg{bla} be \type{{bla}}?
 
 I can't give you a satisfying answer for this, but
 
 Should'nt \expandafter\type\expandafter{\arg{bla}} be
 \type{{bla}}?
 
 gives
 
 Should?nt \dohandlemathtokenarg{bla} be {bla}?
 
 (so I guess the answer is probably no)

\arg is one of the verbatim macros, like \type, \typ, \tex
and is describte in 'cont-enp.pdf' on page 101.

The description looks a bit incomplete: (the command encloses the 
text with .)
(Can someone, with the right to do that, add this to the list of 
typos, please?)

The definition of \arg is in 'core-ver.tex' and copying this 
in a separate file works as expected:

\starttext
\unprotect
\def\setgroupedtype
  {\let\currenttypingclass\??ty
   \initializetype
   \catcode`\{=\@@begingroup
   \catcode`\}=\@@endgroup}

\unexpanded\def\arg{%
\groupedcommand{\setgroupedtype\leftargument}{\rightargument}}
\protect
\arg{bla}
\stoptext

So there must something be damaged.

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[NTG-context] table questions

2006-08-15 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I have studied the table examples at contextgarden and have some 
questions.
--
\|10 as a relacement for \VL gives me thicker vert. lines in that 
position only. How can I define a thicker vert. Line for the whole 
column? My attempts in \starttable[..\|10..] doesn't work.
--
Why is there so little space between the two rows of the table below? 

\starttable[|l|p(.7\textwidth)|]
\HL
\NC bla1 \VL Eins \type{zwei} drei. Eins zwei drei. Eins zwei drei 
\type{vier}
oder \type{sechs}l. Das ist der Leerraum zwischen den Spalten 
\type{n}. \FR
\NC bla2 \VL Eins, zwei \type{drei} \LR
\HL
\stoptable
--
The two tables in the example below are differing and show, that 
\SetTableToWidth{0pt} doesn't reset the situation.

What is the defaultvalue/resetvalue for \SetTableToWidth{}?

\starttable[|l|l|]
\VL 11 \VL 12  \VL\FR
\VL 21 \VL 22  \VL\LR
\stoptable

\SetTableToWidth{\textwidth} 
% some other table stuff
\SetTableToWidth{0pt} 

\starttable[|l|l|]
\VL 11 \VL 12  \VL\FR
\VL 21 \VL 22  \VL\LR
\stoptable
--
Look at the example below:

Without any \SetTableToWidth{} this table has neither hor. Lines nor 
green color. The gray is there. Why?

Variant 1: 
This is an combination of two wiki-examples. The first column of the 
table is about \textwidth (a little bit smaller). Why?
Between the gray and the second hor. Line there is a small white 
area. Same between green and fourth hor. Line. Hmm!

Variant 2:
Hor. Line and green area are .2\textwidth as expected. But gray area 
is about .6\textwidth and so is the column as a whole. Why that?

Variant 3:
All ok now. Even the spacing between coloured areas and lines is ok.

\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext

%\SetTableToWidth{.2\textwidth} % Variant 2
\SetTableToWidth{\textwidth}% Variant 1
\starttable[|lp(.45\textwidth)|lp(.45\textwidth)|]
\HL
\BL[1]\SR
%\VL Command\VL Meaning \VL\SR % Variant 3
\NC Command \NC Meaning \SR
\HL
\NC \tex{NC}\NC next column \FR
\NC \tex{NR}\NC next row\LR
\HL
\CL[green]\SR
\NC \tex{AR}\NC automatic row   \SR
\HL
\stoptable
\stoptext
--

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead

2006-08-14 Thread wwl
 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:33:38 +0200
 From: Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead

  While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
  typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
  grid={broad,...}. 
 
  Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut
 for
  grid={broad,high,depth}.
  Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
  the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.
  
  In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with
  'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping
 around 
  (broad,high,depth).' 
  Is there a newer variant of that manual?
 
 Must be, I read mine online from
 
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf
 
 while I was keying in this answer.
 
 Greetings,
 Taco

I checked this.

But it is the same document!

Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] some questions

2006-08-13 Thread wwl
  \setupcolors[state=start]
  \starttext
  How can I use the brace-key right?
  \starttable[| \{ |]
 
 the wiki entry is not that clear (enclose the column in braces).
 \{ is a just a grouping command (which directly gives a solution
 for
 your second answer)
 
 Use
   [| a{\{}b{\}} |]
 
 to add braces
 
  \NC no braces \SR
  \stoptable
  
  What I am doing wrong here?
  \starttable[ o1 | C{red} |]
 
 \{C{red}

Ahh! I see!
So '\{' is a table command NOT a FormatKey? 

But why is '\{' introduced in 'thrd-tab.tex' with 
\NewFormatKey \{{..} as a primitive key?

The wikiwriter has obviously used this source too.


  Should'nt \arg{bla} be \type{{bla}}?

\arg{bla} gives me 'argbla'!

Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead

2006-08-13 Thread wwl
Hallo!

  While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
  typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
  grid={broad,...}. 
  
  Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for
  grid={broad,high,depth}.
 
 Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
 the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.

In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with 
'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around 
(broad,high,depth).' 
Is there a newer variant of that manual?

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[NTG-context] unanswered questions

2006-08-12 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I had some questions a few days ago and there was not any reply.

Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:39:47 +0200
Subject: [NTG-context] Floats Method

Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 10:39:47 +0200
Subject: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead

May be the questions where not clear enough.

What can I do?

Wolfgang



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[NTG-context] some questions

2006-08-12 Thread wwl
Hallo!

After reading some manuals, I have some questions.
May be I have not understand it right.

Try the following example:
---
\setupcolors[state=start]
\starttext
How can I use the brace-key right?
\starttable[| \{ |]
\NC no braces \SR
\stoptable

What I am doing wrong here?
\starttable[ o1 | C{red} |]
\VL red \VL\SR
\stoptable
red too!

Should'nt \arg{bla} be \type{{bla}}?
\stoptext


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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage graphic

2006-08-03 Thread wwl
Hallo!

  \setuppapersize[a4][a4]
  \setupfloat[figure][none,fit,here,always,top,bottom,force,page]
  \setupcaption[figure][number=no]
  \setuplayout[grid=yes]% Problem doesn't exist with grid=no
  \starttext
  \input tufte
  \placefigure{}{\framed[offset=none]{%
  
 \externalfigure[float.png][width=\makeupwidth,height=\textheight]}}
 
  \dorecurse{10}{\par\input tufte}
  \stoptext
 
 

 Maybe I am missing something here. But \placefigure[page] seems
 to work fine for me. Even larger dimensions do not seem to be a
 problem.
 
 \input tufte
 
 \placefigure[page,none]{}{\blackrule[width=\textwidth,height=0.9\tex
 theight,color=green]}
 \input tufte
 \placefigure[page,none]{}{\blackrule[width=\textwidth,height=1.0\tex
 theight,color=green]}
 \input tufte
 \placefigure[page,none]{}{\blackrule[width=\textwidth,height=1.1\tex
 theight,color=green]}
   \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte}

You are right! Your example works!
The difference to the example that I have posted is, that you gave 
the options [page,none] explicitly with \placefigure and I have used
\setupfloat[figure][page,none]. 

So, what is wrong with using \setupfloat? 

Please try my example exactly as given and you will see what I mean.

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Re: [NTG-context] cdwincontext

2006-08-03 Thread wwl
  Same batch file, so yes.
 
  It would be possible to convert the batch file into a perl or
 ruby
  scripts plus a one-line batch that starts the interpreter +
 script,

Hmm,

aren't you shutting with 'Kanonen auf Spatzen'?

I have running the standalone-context here on WindowsME.
I have modifyed the original batch-files a bit and I had to adapt 
some entrys in scite, where cmd.exe is called. (btw isn't it possible 
to call the command interpreter via COMMSPEC? So the whole thing is 
not depending on the command interpreter.)

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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage graphic

2006-08-03 Thread wwl
  The difference to the example that I have posted is, that you gave
  the options [page,none] explicitly with \placefigure and I have
 used
  \setupfloat[figure][page,none]. 

 \setupfloat[figure][default={page,none}]
 
 may work (untested)
 
 Hans

Yes, this works!

Thank you for your help!

But where are such things documented?

I tried to access 'http://texshow.contextgarden.net/' some times the 
last days. I saw the left frame and the topics home and help are 
functioning, but all the other stuff gave me an error. Is this me 
alone?

Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] cdwincontext

2006-08-03 Thread wwl
 If the batch file is still functionally equivalent, it would
 make sense to include it in the distribution. I vaguely recall
 that I had removed all of the 'smart' stuff from the batch
 file to please command.com, making it much less functional,
 but perhaps that is more an indication of how well I know
 command.com ;-)

As I remember, most, if not all of the smart stuff mentioned has to 
do with automatic recognition of the install-directory.
All this smartness is nice, if things work. In the other cases 
smartness is a jungle and it would be easier to check a dumb but 
simple list of set commands. These batch-files for example are not
smart enough to recognize if they are running under the right command-
prozessor and a normal windows 98 user might be very helpless what 
had gone wrong.

But the settings in scite had to be altered too. 

Wolfgang 
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[NTG-context] Floats Method

2006-08-02 Thread wwl
Hallo!

In \setupfloats[] what exactly is the difference between textmethod 
and sidemethod?

Compared with the gridsize, why does a 1 point window (method=2) help 
when typesetting on grids?

Isn't 1% (method=1) much more in the most cases than 1 point?

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Re: [NTG-context] fullpage graphic

2006-08-02 Thread wwl
Hallo!

 Can you try to create a minimal file to play with?
 
 Inventing test documents from scratch takes a lot of time, time
 that is often not available (like today). Having a small but
 full document will greatly improve your chances of getting a
 quick response.
 
 Cheers,
 Taco
 

Sorry Taco, here comes a small testfile which hopefully resamples the 
situation:
-
\setuppapersize[a4][a4]
\setupfloat[figure][none,fit,here,always,top,bottom,force,page]
\setupcaption[figure][number=no]
\setuplayout[grid=yes]% Problem doesn't exist with grid=no
\starttext
\input tufte
\placefigure{}{\framed[offset=none]{%
  \externalfigure[float.png][width=\makeupwidth,height=\textheight]}}

\dorecurse{10}{\par\input tufte}
\stoptext
-

I can not find a solution for the following problem:

I would like to place a floating, framed graphic at the next page 
following the \placefigure[]{}{\framed[]{...}} command.

Problem: The graphicdimensions are (\makeupwidth,\textheight).

Neither the options page, here, force or always help.

If the graphic is a little smaller, so that at least one line of text 

fit on the page, than the graphic gets placed at the right page, else 

the graphic is placed behind the end of the chapter.

Second question:

How can I place a fullpage graphic 
(\paperheight+epsilon,\paperwidth+epsilon) as above
at the next page, and how can I count, but don't display pagenumbers 
for such graphic pages?

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[NTG-context] fullpage graphic

2006-08-01 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I can not find a solution for the following problem:

I would like to place a floating, framed graphic at the next page 
following the \placefigure[]{}{\framed[]{...}} command.

Problem: The graphicdimensions are (\makeupwidth,\textheight).

Neither the options page, here, force or always help.

If the graphic is a little smaller, so that at least one line of text 
fit on the page, than the graphic gets placed at the right page, else 
the graphic is placed behind the end of the chapter.

Second question:

How can I place a fullpage graphic 
(\paperheight+epsilon,\paperwidth+epsilon) as above
at the next page, and how can I count, but don't display pagenumbers 
for such graphic pages?

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context grid and \textrule

2006-08-01 Thread wwl
 You can wrap that whole stuff inside
 
\startlinecorrection
...
\stoplinecorrection
 
 The stuff inside that environment will not be grid-aligned,
 but the final resulting box will be.

Thank you, that works.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] grid and \textrule

2006-07-31 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I use 

\setuplayout[grid=yes]

and a chapterdefinition which looks like:

Author
-

Title

Text text text ...

The hor. Line above is a \textrule
and the vert. spacing between author and line and line and Title 
resp. should not depent on the grid. So I can not use 
\placeongrid{textrule} in my chapterdefinition. I have to do this
afterwards.

\blank[force,3.9pt]

In short:

\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\def\Sync{...}
\showgrid
\starttext
Bla Blub
\textrule
\Sync
Bla Blub
\stoptext

How should \Sync be defined to snap on the next gridline?

My solution is 

\def\Sync{\blank[force,7.4pt]}% try and error

isn't there a better solution?


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[NTG-context] frames in natural tables

2006-07-14 Thread wwl
Hallo!

In the following example with two nearly identical tables:
--
\starttext
\setupTABLE[r][each][frame=off]
\setupTABLE[r][first][bottomframe=on,rulethickness=.05em]
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD Nr.\ \eTD \bTD Eintrag \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD Bla \eTD  \eTR
\bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD Blub \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD Boing \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 4 \eTD \bTD Blubber \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\blank
%\setupTABLE[frame=off]
\setupTABLE[r][first][bottomframe=off]
\bTABLE[frame=off]
\bTR \bTD Nr.\ \eTD \bTD Eintrag \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD Bla \eTD  \eTR
\bTR \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD Blub \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD Boing \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 4 \eTD \bTD Blubber \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext
--

the first \setupTABLE[r][each][frame=off]
switched frames off 
and the second 
\setupTABLE[r][first][bottomframe=on,rulethickness=.05em]
switched the bottomframe on in the first row.

but

in the second table neighter

\setupTABLE[frame=off]

nor

\setupTABLE[r][each][frame=off]

switched frames off

the bottomframe in row 1 survives from the first table!

One has explicitly use

\setupTABLE[r][first][bottomframe=off]

to switch this frameline off too.

So,

1. Is there no general 'frame=off'?
2. Is the first \setupTABLE not really working? It should, because 
the defaults are 'frame=on', aren't they?

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
  - a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last
 blank 
  page (strange).
 
 This is normal: 'doublesided' is not equal to 'doublesided '.
 And 'doublesided' requires certainly an even number of pages.

Ohh! But a leading space has no effekt.
What is the exact syntax for parameters?

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
 Hi Wolfgang,
 
 I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the
 Schmutztitel.

But a blank page before!

 So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. -

No that doesn't help.
And it shouldn't be necessary. Right?

 Something 
 fuzzy is at hand with grid=yes.
 If you comment this line then the output is as expected.

I know. I wrote that. I found 3 positions which, commenting this 
lines, correct the problem.

But I don't understand WHY this helps and why the example doesn't 
works.

 
 
 Willi
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hallo!
 
  I am trying to use 'standardmakeup' to produce
 'Schmutztitel'-page
  with a following blank page. I think this is what 
  \start\stopstandardmakeup is for (in doublesided environments).
 
  But the example bellow has first a blank page and then 
  'Schmutztitel'.
 
  There is a fourth blank page too.
 
  -
  \setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided]
  \setuplayout[
  footer=.04\paperheight, %1
  grid=yes,   %2
  marking=on,
  location=middle,
  width=middle,
  height=middle]
  \starttext
  \startfrontmatter   %3
  \startstandardmakeup
  Schmutztitel
  \stopstandardmakeup
  \stopfrontmatter%3
  bla
  \stoptext
  -
 
  My experiments:
 
  - a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last
 blank 
  page (strange).
 
  - uncommenting the lines in position 1,2,3 exclusivly results in
 the 
  correct behaviour.
 
  I would like to understand what the problem is and why, for
 example, 
  uncommenting frontmatter solves the problem.
 
  I thought frontmatter is the place to do title-things and so.
 
  Gr??e, Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
 the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due
 to already present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that
 (hopefully) corrects the problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that
 it was textheight related) 
 
 Hans 

Thank you, Hans and Taco!

It works now as expected.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-22 Thread wwl
  I tried your code. Indeed there is no blank page after the
 Schmutztitel.
  So you need to add to the \startstandardmakeup[page=yes]. -
 Something 
  
  Moreover:
 
  page=yes|right|... makes the same page break setting to both
 place: 
  start...matter and stop...matter. I ussually need a different
 setting. 
  For now I am solving it by
 
  \setupsectionblock
 [frontpart]
 [page=right,
  after={\setvalue{\??sb\@@sectionblock\c!page}{}}]

  the problem has to do with an overflow of makeup in grid mode (due
 to already present mark reset nodes); i uploaded a beta that
 (hopefully) corrects the problem (thanks to taco for analyzing that
 it was textheight related) 
  
  Hans 
 
 Good news the bug was fixed.
 
 What I proposed was not related to mentioned error. It just recalled
 me 
 this problem of coupled 'page' option and the need to be split.
 
 Vit

Can you make a little example where a split 'page' option is from 
use?

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] frontmatter

2006-06-21 Thread wwl
Hallo!

I am trying to use 'standardmakeup' to produce 'Schmutztitel'-page
with a following blank page. I think this is what 
\start\stopstandardmakeup is for (in doublesided environments).

But the example bellow has first a blank page and then 
'Schmutztitel'.

There is a fourth blank page too.

-
\setuppagenumbering [alternative=doublesided]
\setuplayout[
footer=.04\paperheight, %1
grid=yes,   %2
marking=on,
location=middle,
width=middle,
height=middle]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter   %3
\startstandardmakeup
Schmutztitel
\stopstandardmakeup
\stopfrontmatter%3
bla
\stoptext
-

My experiments:

- a space-char between 'doublesided' and ']' removes the last blank 
page (strange).

- uncommenting the lines in position 1,2,3 exclusivly results in the 
correct behaviour.

I would like to understand what the problem is and why, for example, 
uncommenting frontmatter solves the problem.

I thought frontmatter is the place to do title-things and so.

Grüße, Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] cropmarks

2006-06-20 Thread wwl
Hallo!

The following:
---
\definepapersize[RM][width=170mm,height=240mm]
\setuppapersize [RM][A4]
\setuplayout[marking=on, location=middle]
\starttext
Bla
\stoptext
---
results in 163mm width and 230mm height.
What is wrong here?


A second observation: file 'rm.tex' with

\startenvironment rm
...
\stopenvironment

is not found
in 'test.tex' with

\environment rm
...

renaming to 'whatever' helps

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] cropmarks

2006-06-20 Thread wwl
  The following:
  ---
  \definepapersize[RM][width=170mm,height=240mm]
  \setuppapersize [RM][A4]
  \setuplayout[marking=on, location=middle]
  \starttext
  Bla
  \stoptext
  ---
  results in 163mm width and 230mm height.
  What is wrong here?
 
 before or after printing?

after printing. How could I measure this before printing?

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] mswincontext problems

2006-04-27 Thread wwl
 Hi all (esp. windows users),
 
 Last night I tried setting up a Win98SE for use with context
 using mswincontext.zip (I borrowed a laptop for bachotek, so
 I could not install linux on it ... ).
 
 It went terribly wrong. At first I thought it was just the
 shoddy Win98 install on that machine, but Olivier tells me
 he also had problems installing the latest mswincontext, so
 I hope another someone who uses Windows98 can testrun the
 installation.
 
 I got all sort of errors from command.com (syntax error,
 out of environment space, command not found, permission
 denied), and the wiki page is definately incomplete so I
 could not really debug. In the end, I basically gave up.
 

I had problems too!
First of all 'command.com' is the wrong command prozessor for the 
used batch-files. You should have 'cmd.exe'.

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Standalone distribution

2006-04-04 Thread wwl
 Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 00:26:12 +0200
 From: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  texexec.ini is not found in 'context\config'
  I copyed it in 'scripts\context\perl'
  now it is found. 
 
  Is this normal? Or is this a symptome of the problem I am looking
  for?

 it depends on what system you use; the settinsg default to 
 tetex/fptex/gwtex so in that case no ini is needed

As I said, I work with the standalone distri?
And I thought, the binaries are from fptex, right?
And if both texexec.ini's are removed:

texexec complains: 

  warning: texexec.ini not found, try 'texexec --verbose'

(the same with texexec --verbose)
 
 newtexexec.rb (which will replace texexec.pl) has no ini file but
 uses 
 some heuristics to determine what environment it runs in
   

  'texexec --verbose' tries to compile all the files in the aktuel
  path.
 
  but
 
  'texmfstart texexec.pl --verbose' works ok.
 
  same with
 
  'texexec --make --all' doesn't work
 
  but 
 
  'texmfstart texexec.pl --make --all' works!
  
 good

upps?

texexec (without parameters)

compiles cscite.bat! Why?

 
 on windows: you need to associate the pl suffix to perl
 on linux you need to make  texexec into a script (suffixless)
 
 on both you can best use texmfstart to launch the scripts since
 that's 
 upward compatible (and in some respects this call is more clever);
 if 
 needef you can create stubs with texmfstart (see manual)

This works!

But next Problem:

pdfetex can not find pk-fonts.

I have written: 

PKFONTS = .;$TEXMF/fonts/pk//

in 'texmf.cnf'

font-file lies in

texmf-project/fonts/pk/ricoh/local/msl/msl50.pk

what else can I do?

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Re: [NTG-context] ntg-context Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1

2006-04-03 Thread wwl
 ok! I have modified the batch-files.
 
 Next Problems: 
 
 texexec.ini is not found in 'context\config'
 I copyed it in 'scripts\context\perl'
 now it is found. 

Is this normal? Or is this a symptome of the problem I am looking 
for?
 
 'texexec --verbose' tries to compile all the files in the aktuel 
 path.
 
 but
 
 'texmfstart texexec.pl --verbose' works ok.
 
 same with
 
 'texexec --make --all' doesn't work
 
 but 
 
 'texmfstart texexec.pl --make --all' works!
 
 formatfiles will generatet under '.\pdfetex' relativ to the aktual
 path.

I have found TWO different files 'texmf.cnf'.
One in 'tex\texmf\web2c' the other in 'tex\texmf-local\web2c'.
Meight this be an Problem? Which of them is the right one?

I have NOT found any file 'pdftex.cfg'.
Ist this normal?

In 'texmf.cnf' are some pathes written with '/' and '\' mixed.
Should this be korrekted.

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Problems with Standalone distribution

2006-03-31 Thread wwl
Hallo!

Some months ago I have downloaded 'mswincontext.zip'.

There were a lot of Problems and I tried to solve them.
I could finally compile some files. But then I get new problems and 
so I decided to start over and ask the list for help.

First Problem (may be the mother of all the others):

The Batch-Files 'cdemo.bat' and 'cscite.bat' are using for example 
%~s1 for the first placeholder on the commandline.

My Windowssystem (ME) doesn't understand this.

Are there other Batch-Files that work on older commandoprozessors to 
download?

A second question:

There exists an directory 'usr\local\context\tex\texmf\texmf' which 
contains fontinformation to one single fontfamily 'cb'.

Is this ok: 'texmf' under 'texmf'? And why ist this there?

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Standalone distribution

2006-03-31 Thread wwl

  First Problem (may be the mother of all the others):
 
  The Batch-Files 'cdemo.bat' and 'cscite.bat' are using for example
  %~s1 for the first placeholder on the commandline.
 
  My Windowssystem (ME) doesn't understand this.
 
  Are there other Batch-Files that work on older commandoprozessors to
  download?

 hm, not on my machine; you can try:
 
 @echo off
 usr\local\context\cscite.bat

The same problems with cscite.bat.
As I said, I can change these two batch-files. But I am not shure if 
my problems derive from this.

 
 (i dunno if there's a way to test if we run me)
 
  A second question:
 
  There exists an directory 'usr\local\context\tex\texmf\texmf' which
  contains fontinformation to one single fontfamily 'cb'.
 
  Is this ok: 'texmf' under 'texmf'? And why ist this there?

 thats a bug (i thought that i had solved it -)

Should I move this subtree one level higher or delete it?

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Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Standalone distribution

2006-03-31 Thread wwl
 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:00:41 +0200
 From: Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Problems with Standalone distribution
 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  First Problem (may be the mother of all the others):
 
  The Batch-Files 'cdemo.bat' and 'cscite.bat' are using for example
  %~s1 for the first placeholder on the commandline.
 
  My Windowssystem (ME) doesn't understand this.
 
  Are there other Batch-Files that work on older commandoprozessors
  to download?


  hm, not on my machine; you can try:
 
  @echo off
  usr\local\context\cscite.bat
  
 
  The same problems with cscite.bat.
  As I said, I can change these two batch-files. But I am not shure if
  my problems derive from this.

 well, test it -)

ok! I have modified the batch-files.

Next Problems: 

texexec.ini is not found in 'context\config'
I copyed it in 'scripts\context\perl'
now it is found. 

'texexec --verbose' tries to compile all the files in the aktuel 
path.

but

'texmfstart texexec.pl --verbose' works ok.

same with

'texexec --make --all' doesn't work

but 

'texmfstart texexec.pl --make --all' works!

formatfiles will generatet under '.\pdfetex' relativ to the aktual 
path.

Wolfgang



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