Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi,

Le 14/06/2023 à 17:13, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,

I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that
tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties
only contained NUL bytes.

Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it.

I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have
gotten corrupted at some point.  Does anyone have a working copy to
restore them?

tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties
tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua
tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex

Thanks,


Same for me:
tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex
contains NUL characters.

> system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 18:58 LMTX fmt: 
2023.6.13 int: english/english


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Re: [NTG-context] Text editors

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Hi!

Le 26/03/2023 à 10:39, jbf via ntg-context a écrit :


Every user has his or her own preferred test editor. Over 
years I have used Emacs for just about everything except 
the kitchen sink, but not, as it happens, for ConTeXt.


For what it's worth here is what I use:

(1) TeXworks. All one has to do is indicate the correct 
path to ConText in the setup for this program, depending 
on your OS and where you have installed it, e.g. 
home/yourname/bin/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin if you 
are using Linux and have installed it in \bin. Then choose 
ConTeXt (LuaTeX) as the processing tool.


(2) But to make things a lot easier, I also use Federico's 
text expander Espanso 
https://espanso.org 
. This just saves so much time, 
especially for so many \start...\stop sequences.  For 
example, in espanso I might have:


You can do the same inside TeXworks. There are completion 
files in the folder 
C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\TUG\TeXworks\completion.


It is not yet completed for Context, but it should not be 
difficult to do that.


But thanks Julian, this is an interesting information

Alain


Julian

On 26/3/23 19:22, Alexandre Christe via ntg-context wrote:

Dear ConTeXt users,

I'm wondering what kind of typesetting system / syntax 
highlighting / completion you're using.


I've been using myself the simple_Context package for 
SublimeText which I scavenged a while ago before it was 
made unavailable (I wanted to attach but it's too big for 
the list). But it's sort of a dead-end.


Open to anything from vim/neovim to emacs or more exotic. 
Maybe it would be nice to show the config. (And yes I've 
seen the Wiki page 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_Editorsbut I've the 
feeling some content is outdated.)


Thanks in advance,
Alex

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Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with latest...

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 8/01/2023 à 21:02, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context a 
écrit :
Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context schrieb am 08.01.2023 um 
20:02:

Hi all,

I tried upgrading to the 2023 version, but generating the 
format fails with lots of these messages:


[...]
But I was surprised that nobody else had seen it yet. Can 
anyone confirm (or yell “works for me!”)?


You luametatex binary is too old and fails on the new 
\advanceby command.


When I tried to update my current installation a few 
moments ago the updater also failed to load the new 
luametatex binary (I haven't tried to regenerate the 
format files) but a fresh installation works without 
problems.


Wolfgang


I am working on Windows 10.

Anytime a new upload is announced, I download the 
context-win64.zip unpack it and run install.bat and setpath.bat.


Is it a fresh installation? Or should I from time to time 
erase my installation and run install.bat to create a new 
distribution?


Thanks for the advices!

Happy New Year to everybody!

Alain

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Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script

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Le 1/01/2023 à 11:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Am 01.01.23 um 10:21 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
On 12/31/2022 3:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via 
ntg-context wrote:

I just read this:
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/fallou-ngom-discovers-ajami-african-writing-system/ 



And now I’d like to know if ConTeXt is capable of 
typesetting this variant of Arabic. (Just out of 
curiosity, I can’t read any Arabic and don’t know any 
African language.)

Afaiks that script has been known fro a while:


I also thought I heard about it several years ago. The 
article makes it sound like news, that might be the 
perspective of the US scholars or a necessary means to get 
funded. But the oldest sources quoted in Wikipedia are 
from 1971 and 1982.


The arabic alphabet was also used from the XIth century to 
write swahili and some bantu languages around Tanzania and 
Kenya (Mozambic, Malawi, Uganda, east of Kongo, Sudan).


There are articles in Wikipedia.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_arabe_swahili
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language#Orthography

also: https://www.mustgo.com/worldlanguages/swahili/  see 
"writing"

https://omniglot.com/writing/swahili.htm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajami_script
so when there are proper fonts, as:
https://software.sil.org/scheherazade/
https://software.sil.org/harmattan/


I don’t dare to ask about the Husayni fonts... ;)

it should be doable. The script is supported by unicode. 
I get the impression that the arabic scipt is mostly used 
getting the way the languages sounds on paper so vowels 
matter. There is mentioning of transliteration and so 
that might need some specific support. Nothing tex 
(context) can't do but only users and usage can prove that.


Thank you for your insights!
Of course it’s a matter of use(r)s.

All the best for a happy new year!
Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] Help for using fonts Nupuram

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Thank you for your help.

It works.

Alain

Thanks for you help.



Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
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[NTG-context] Help for using fonts Nupuram

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

I am trying to run the example Hans published on the 1st of 
December with a new upload.

It is about using the variable font Nupuram.

I downloaded the font in a big .zip file.
It contains: two explaining files and  folder with  
sub-folder "Nupuram", which in turn contains 6 subsub-filders:

- otf with 32 otf font files
- otf-variable with 1 file "Nupuram-VF.otf"
- ttf with 32 ttf font files
- ttf-variable with 1 file "Nupuram-VF.ttf"
- ufo with 32 subfolders xxx.ufo
- webfonts with 33 xxx.woff2 files

After looking to contextgarden,I tried to put the "Nupuram" 
sub-folder or only the folders with .otf in different places 
of my context-lmtx folder, and using "mtxrun --script font 
--reload".

But the example of Hans didn't work.

Then I install the .ttf font files in Windows\fonts; it 
works, but 1) trying to install the Nupuram-VF.ttf, I have 
the message that Nupuram-Regular is already installed; and 
2) I get the font in the example, but no changes of width or 
colour.


So, now I deleted all the Nupuram everywhere.
How could I have it fully working under context-lmtx?

I have different places for fonts in my context-lmtx:
- tex\texmf\fonts  mainly empty except \data
- texmf-context\fonts  populated
- texmf-fonts  empty
- texmf-modules\fonts  populated

Thanks for you help.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
Regards

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Re: [NTG-context] Margin figure in itemize

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 21/11/2022 à 14:00, Alexandre Christe via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Dear list,

With the following MWE I end up with big gaps between 
margin figures in an itemized list. Is there a way to 
remove that space in the text and place the figures in the 
margin one below the other the best one can?


\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided, location=margin]

\setuplayout
  [header=0pt,
   margin=4cm,
   footerdistance=.5cm,
   topspace=1cm,
   backspace=1cm,
   cutspace=2cm,
   width=fit,
   height=\dimexpr
\paperheight-\topspace+\footerheight+\footerdistance-4cm\relax]

% \showframe

\definefloat
  [marginfigure]
  [figure]

\setupfloat
  [marginfigure]
  [outermargindistance=-\outermargintotal,
  default={outermargin,height,high,low,none}]

\starttext

\startstaticMPfigure{square}
  draw fullsquare scaled 3cm;
\stopstaticMPfigure

\startitemize
  \placemarginfigure{}{\usestaticMPfigure[square]}
  \item bla
  \item bla
  \placemarginfigure{}{\usestaticMPfigure[square]}
  \item bla
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Thanks in advance,
Alex

For me it looks alright, in particular if you have longer 
text in the \item. The figures are aligned with the \item's.


One thing which changes is the space between de items: 
between 2 and 3. I have no answer for that.


---
Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] issues with current latest

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 14/10/2022 à 16:24, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit :

Dear list,

I have the following sample:

   \setuppapersize[A7]
   \setupinteraction[state=start,
 color=darkred,
 contrastcolor=darkred,
 focus=standard]
   \starttext
   \completecontent
   \startsection[title={sec}, list=(before \&\ now), reference=a]
   \page
   \in[a] (after 2022.10.14 10:16)
   \stopsection
   \stoptext

For me it works! And

[...]
It is also caused by the minimal:

   \starttext
\null
   \stoptext


also for this!

Alain
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Re: [NTG-context] regular online meet-up

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Hi,

Unfortunately at that time I am not free.

Have a very good meeting.

All the best, Alain

Le 9/10/2022 à 12:41, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :
You’re invited to join on Wednesday, October 12th, 15:00 
CEST (UTC+2)


at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
(same, but shorter: https://v34h.de/ctxmtg)

ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!

Next meeting will be on November 9th.


(Same blurb as every time:)

[Howto]
* No special software installation required; most modern 
browsers should work (WebRTC required).

* Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access 
it, check the audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate 
microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom.
* Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" 
button, bottom right.


* If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you 
can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, 
change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" 
button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage 
presentations" behind the "plus" button.
Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t 
kill someone else’s presentation.


[Technical hints]
* Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise 
for everyone).


* Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or 
high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections.
* If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use 
the text chat.

* Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth.

* BigBlueButton documentation applies: 
https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/


[Netiquette]
* Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel 
uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers.

* Mute your microphone while you’re not talking.
* It’s nice to show your face at least when you join.
* If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing.
* The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you...

See you, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] the system not working on Linux 32 with Context-lmtx

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Le 27/06/2022 à 22:32, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit :

On 6/27/22 20:00, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Am 27.06.22 um 19:10 schrieb Alain Delmotte via ntg-context:

[…]
When I run from the console:
context sanstitre-2.tex
mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
[…]
What should I do?

[…]
Try to rebuild the database: mtxrun --generate

Hi Alain,

as Hraban points out, "mtxrun --generate" is your friend.

I can simply reproduce you error with:

   mtxrun --scripts cache --erase

So I get:

   $ context
   mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'

Everything works fine again after I run:

   mtxrun --generate.

Before the first run after installation, this command is mandatory to
build the database.

I hope it helps,

Pablo


Hi Pablo and Haram,

When I was running mtxrun --generate, there was an 
interference with TeX Live, so I uninstalled it, then it 
worked. I do not know if that time I did run mtxrun. But 
under TeXworks when I selected context as program it kept 
electing luametatex, and it didn't work; so I manually wrote 
"context" and it worked!!


Thanks for your help,

Alain

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[NTG-context] the system not working on Linux 32 with Context-lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
I installed a new disk and reinstalled
the programs I was using before, including Context-lmtx
It is on lubuntu 18.04 on an old 32bit machine.
When I run from the console:
context sanstitre-2.tex
mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or
'mtx-context.lua'
  
When I run from TeXworks, I get only
one line:
startup error : no format file given, quitting
  
So there is a step which didn't work.
What should I do?
Thanks,
Alain

  

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Re: [NTG-context] lmtx installation paths not working

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hello,
I do not understand what you did!
I went to "http://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm"
downlaoded the 64 bit Microsoft Windows file
"context-win64.zip".
I did create a folder c:\data\context
wher I did put the .zip file and unzipped it.
I got 
  
c:\data\context\bin
  c:\data\context\context-win64.zip
  c:\data\context\install.bat
  c:\data\context\installation.pdf
  c:\data\context\setpath.bat
Double-cliquing the install.bat it did
install all the structure; it took some time to fetch and unzip
texmf.zip and texmf-context.zip. After this doubleclic
setpath.bat ad everything was ok!
Hope this help.
Alain

Le 14/06/2022 à 13:20, Jano Kula via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  
  Hello list,


I cannot make fresh install of lmtx to work. The structure
  after unzipping:

  C:\data\context\bin\beta
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\bin
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf-cache
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf-context

etc.


First compilation of texfile is not working, so mtxrun --generate is the friend.



  C:\data>mtxrun --generate
  
  
  These paths contain probably
  correct path (watch /beta):
  
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'C:/data/context/bin/beta/bin'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to
'C:/data/context/bin/beta'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set
to 'C:/data/context/bin'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'beta'
resolvers       | resolving |
  
  
  and the paths bellow have no /beta from
  above, they are derived from selfautoparent C:/data/context/bin
(without /beta), so no surprise
  they cannot be found.
  
resolvers       | resolving | using configuration
specification
'home:texmf/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving |
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/Users/jano/texmf/web2c'
from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-local/web2c'
from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-context/web2c' from
specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-dist/web2c'
from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c'
  [... skip ...]
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
resolvers       | resolving |
resolvers       | resolving | warning: no lua configuration
files found
resolvers       | resolving | no texmf paths are defined
(using TEXMF)
resolvers       | resolving |
mtxrun          |
mtxrun          | elapsed lua time: 0.026 seconds

 
Do you have an idea how to fix problem?
I will be thankful for an advice, it is quite urgent
  (everything was working yesterday).


Thank you,
Jano


  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] 32-bit OpenBSD

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Hi!

Le 1/05/2022 à 11:01, Mojca Miklavec
  via ntg-context a écrit :


  Hi,

How long do we want/need to keep running the builders for 32-bit OpenBSD?

It's taking 2 or 3 times longer to build binaries than for the 64-bit
OS (not that this is super relevant since ppc builder is a whole order
of magnitude slower anyway: building TL there takes about 6 hours) and
I suspect that nobody is using those 32-bit binaries anyway.

Mojca

My portable is a 32-bit on which I am running Lubuntu 18.04; but
  i didn't upgrade ConTeXt lmtx for long as, as I did understand,
  there is no more new binaries.
But I can do without ConTeXt on that computer.
Alain



  

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Re: [NTG-context] Space around figure

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Thanks Duncan!
Alain

Le 28/04/2022 à 13:05, Duncan
  Hothersall a écrit :


  
  
You should be able to change the space above and
  below a float with the spacebefore and spaceafter keys to
  \setupfloat. I think the default value is big for each, but
  you can override that with null. Something like
  
  
  \setupfloat[figure][spacebefore=,spaceafter=]
  
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  
  Duncan



  On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at
11:41, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
wrote:
  
  

  Hi, 

  When one insert a figure in
  a text, I think that the default behaviour is to add
  space around the figure.
  Is tit possible to manage
  that space or suppress it?
  Thanks in advance,
  --
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[NTG-context] Space around figure

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi, 
  
When one insert a figure in a text, I
think that the default behaviour is to add space around the
figure.
Is tit possible to manage that space
or suppress it?
Thanks in advance,
--
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Re: [NTG-context] TeXworks on Linux

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi Willi!
Le 9/04/2022 à 21:52, Willi Egger via ntg-context a écrit :

  Good evening!

Currently I am trying to test different editors on a Linux-box. — Tonight I installed TeXworks. Now I wanted to change the editor to use ConTeXt LMTX. I added in the tab “typesetting" the path to the executables in the TeX tree. Then I added funder editing the processing tools following the Wiki as a programme mtxrun and as parameters —script context $fullname.

After restarting the application I get the error:

“unknown script ‘mtx-base.lua' or ‘mtx-mtx-base.lua’” 

My question is, is there a user out there who knows how to fix this?

Kind regards

Willi

I have an old computer under Linux 18.04
In
TeXworks/Edit/Preferences/Typesetting I have an entry for
ConTeXt lmtx:
path:
/usr/bin
  /usr/local/sbin
  /usr/local/bin
/usr/sbin
/sbin
/bin
/usr/games
/home/alain/context-lmtx/bin
  /home/alain/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-linux/bin
/usr/local/texlive/2020/bin/i386-linux
Most of the path is automatically
created when installing TeXworks. You should perhaps take care
that the paths for context-lmtx is "before the one for texlive,
if you have it.
Now for the definition for the
program:
name:   Context (which will appear in the drop-down menu
program:  context
parameters: --synctex    (which is not fonctionnal)
    $fullname
  
That'all!
I hope it  will help.
Alain
  

  

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Re: [NTG-context] Spellchecking for ConTeXt user on a Windows platform

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi Amine!
Do you mean spellchecking the content
of your document (not the ConTeXt commands)?
This depends on your editor! 
I use TeXworks and there is spellchecking using the dictionaries
of LibreOffice. You should copy the .aff and .dicfiles from
"C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\share\extensions\..."
subdirectories to the "C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\TUG\TeXworks\dictionaries"
folder (created when installing TeXworks), (I think not in
subfolders for the different languages).
You can then ask for spellchecking when you type or not.
I hope this help,
Alain
  
Le 2/04/2022 à 09:23, A A via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  
  Dear All,


I'm currently using ConTeXt on a windows machine. I'd like
  to incorporate some sort of automated spell-checking in my
  workflow. I've seen that there are two options:

  
spell check the .tex source file
spell check the resulting pdf
  
  For the first option many resources online seem to
suggest using aspell. aspell is however not
maintained for windows and therefore hopelessly out of date.
Furthermore many resources online seem to suggest skipping
TeX and LaTeX control sequences does not always succeed. So
I can only imagine how poorly it deals with ConTeXt control
sequences.
  
  
  The second option as shown on this StackExchange post suggests
using \loadspellchecklist. However, on of the
arguments to this command includes a text file listing - and
brace yourself - all of the correctly spelled words.
I find this both an amusing and tragic proposition, since I
basically need to spellcheck based on every word in a
  given language.


  
What options are out there for someone who would like to do
  serious spellchecking using ConTeXt on Windows platform, using
  Powershell as my command line?


Regards,


Amine
  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: command line arguments to specify output directory

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi Amine,
Le 31/03/2022 à 07:24, A A via ntg-context a écrit :

  
  Hi Aditya,


Nevermind, I got it to work. Thanks!


Amine
  


  
And how did you get it to work? Could
you leave a trace of what you did?
Thanks
--
Alain


  
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 07:21,
  A A 
  wrote:


  Hi Aditya,


Sorry, but I'm still getting an error:


runtime error : input file 'test/test.tex' is not
found, quitting



Amine
  
  
  
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at
  00:46, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context 
  wrote:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, A
  A via ntg-context wrote:
  > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 18:39, Wolfgang Schuster <
  > wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  > 
  > > A A via ntg-context schrieb am 30.03.2022 um
  18:24:
  > > > Dear All,
  > > >
  > > > I would like to ask whether there exists a
  command line option to the
  > > > context executable which would allow me to
  specify the directory in
  > > > which I would like my output to be dumped.
  > > >
  > > > I have noticed that if I call the
  executable outside the directory in
  > > > which the .tex file resides, my supporting
  files (and resulting pdf)
  > > > are dumped outside the directory in which
  the .tex file is located.
  > >
  > > context --runpath=... filename
  > 
  >    - I tried the following *context --runpath=test
  test/test.tex * but it
  >    still dumps all the output (.log, .pdf and .tuc)
  into my current directory.
  >    I would like for it to get dumped inside the *test
  *directory...
  
  mtxrun --path=test --script context test.tex
  
  (note that filename has to be relative to the test/
  directory not CWD)
  
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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I'll try to join and I have a question
regarding inserting floats in outer margins in double sided
document. The outer margins are large and the inner small. I
want to insert my floats (mainly figures) in the outer margins
and have them at level where they are called. Furthermore,
sometimes the float is to large, so it should take part of the
text, with the text surrounding it.
But this is perhaps answered in
context garden, but I didn't find where.
And if there are more fundamental
questions, my can wait.
See you on Tuesday.
Regards,
Alain

Le 5/02/2022 à 13:51, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :

You’re
  invited to join next Tuesday, February 8th, 15:00 CET (UTC+1)
  
  
  at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
  
  
  ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!
  
  
  Hans offered to give a Q session again – please announce
  subjects you’d like to discuss ASAP, so that he can prepare.
  
  
  
  Regarding the date:
  
  Denis, who originally suggested Tuesday afternoon, can’t take part
  due to other obligations. I could also offer Wednesday or
  Thursday.
  
  We could also change the weekday every time, but that might be
  confusing. I would keep the European afternoon time, since that
  makes participation possible for people from America and Asia.
  
  What do you think?
  
  Vote here: https://nuudel.digitalcourage.de/tB1MHH4jx6M5uwPg
  
  
  
  (Same blurb as last time:)
  
  
  [Howto]
  
  * No special software installation required; most modern browsers
  should work (WebRTC required).
  
  * Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
  
  * enter your name,
  
  * click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
  
  * click "with microphone", allow your browser to access it, check
  the audio.
  
  * Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate microphone and/or
  camera with the buttons at the bottom.
  
  * Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" button,
  bottom right.
  
  
  * If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you can
  make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, change the
  setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" button beside the
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  someone else’s presentation.
  
  
  [Technical hints]
  
  * Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise for
  everyone).
  
  
  * Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or high
  latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections.
  
  * If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use the text
  chat.
  
  * Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth.
  
  
  * You can also join with a regular telephone (audio only, of
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Re: [NTG-context] update lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 22/11/2021 à 22:37, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  We're still working on the math so updated lfg files buit not many
  other things apart from a few fixes.
  
  
  In the process I ran into another area where ms eems to take the
  lead:
  
  
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/unicode-math-braille-sequences/
  
  
  and although it aims at msword I gave that a go for context so we
  now have a "braille-basic" module (style) that we (can) use (and
  run as demo) for playing with math spacing because we basically
  have a monospace font. If there is any interest in braille as
  alternative output we can extend that. I'm pretty sure that we
  need to adapt some (general spacing related) presets to this
  situation.
  
  
  Hans
  

I remember having contact with people in the braille association
  in Belgium.
  To prepare braille text you need to follow certain rules, it is
  not just using braille symbols. 

So it is better to ask braille specialist about the requirements
  for good braille text.
Alain



  

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Re: [NTG-context] upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
When I run the example below with 2021.11.22
  22:32 LMTX fmt: 2021.11.23 I get errors for \Umathxscale and
  \setupmathsspacing The control sequence [...] was never \def'ed.


Alain


Le 24/11/2021 à 15:29, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  for those who keep an eye on what is new, the most recent upload
  provides this:
  
  
  \starttext
  
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle  800 a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle 1000 a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle 1200 a + b + x + d + e = f $\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[narrow] a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal] a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[wide]   a + b + x + d + e = f $\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[tight]  x^2_1$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal] x^2_1$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[loose]  x^2_1$\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[narrow]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[wide]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[less]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[more]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\blank
  
  
  \stoptext
  
  
  it's still experimental so the predefined values might change
  
  
  Hans
  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] update lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
In the new upload for Windows 10/64
there is a new file "modules.bat".
When I did launch it it went through
all my harddisk and most of the time there was a line saying:
"File has vanished..." those were
about files outside the context-lmtx folder. (See the two
attached images)
  
I crashed the action.
How can I have the modules installed
in "C:\Users\Alain\context-lmtx\tex" and have the module use
working?
Thanks,
Alain
  
Le 22/11/2021 à 22:37, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  We're still working on the math so updated lfg files buit not many
  other things apart from a few fixes.
  
  
  In the process I ran into another area where ms eems to take the
  lead:
  
  
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/unicode-math-braille-sequences/
  
  
  and although it aims at msword I gave that a go for context so we
  now have a "braille-basic" module (style) that we (can) use (and
  run as demo) for playing with math spacing because we basically
  have a monospace font. If there is any interest in braille as
  alternative output we can extend that. I'm pretty sure that we
  need to adapt some (general spacing related) presets to this
  situation.
  
  
  Hans
  
  
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[NTG-context] To prepare the online meeting of Tuesday

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
I asked to discuss or have some
suggestions about installing and using Scite for ConTeXt.
If it is possible OK, but it is not
urgent.
To give some background:
I use Windows 10 and lmtx (in its own folder).
I installed Scite in c:\wscite and copied there the
scite\context folder; I added the folder to the PATH.
If I comment the line (import
context/scite-context-user) at the end of SciteGlobalproperties
I can load .lua, .tex, .py files and I get the colours
highlighting. 
  
But if I uncomment: first I have Scite
opening full screen, which is annoying, and the colour
highlighting for .lua, and .tex disappears, but I have the
context/scite.xxx.properties listed in Options!!!
And I still need to configure to be
able to compile and...
  
Thanks for the advices.
Regards,
Alain
PS When I install lmtx, I have two
messages (but which disappear very quickly) about missing ??
with lua and lmtx (path?, ...)
How to be able to read the log of the installation? Thanks
  
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Strange result with the new upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Thanks Hans

Le 5/11/2021 à 18:16, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  11/5/2021 5:45 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi,


If I take the last piece of code from Hans' message 28/10/2021
11:24, and run it with the new upload I get clean paragraphs
with the red ans the blue colour, but for the paragraphs with
the green colour, the text in colour ("keyword") is overwritten
by the normal text in black.


I don't remember that before.

  
  the localboxes interface changed a bit ... see the new lowlevel
  manual for details (i added 'middle' boxes so that we can do
  better margin trickery and there are predefined handlers for l/r
  margin text and nline numbers now
  
  
  (local boxes are still kind of work in progress, the old (luatex)
  interfaces were not that usefui / interesting anyway, and we can
  do more now)
  
  
  Hans
  
  
  
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[NTG-context] Strange result with the new upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
If I take the last piece of code from
Hans' message 28/10/2021 11:24, and run it with the new upload I
get clean paragraphs with the red ans the blue colour, but for
the paragraphs with the green colour, the text in colour
("keyword") is overwritten by the normal text in black.
I don't remember that before.
Alain
Here is the code:
%I need to ponder this usage:


\definelocalboxes

  [linetextA]

  [command=\LeftTextA,

  location=lefttext,

  style=\bs,

  color=darkblue]


\protected\def\LeftTextA#1{\llap{#1}\quad}


\definelocalboxes

  [linetextB]

  [command=\LeftTextB,

  location=left,

  style=\bs,

  color=darkgreen]


\protected\def\LeftTextB{\llap{\unhbox\localboxcontentbox}\quad}


\starttext


\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\leftparbox
  {\red \bf keyword}HERE\leftparbox{}
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\blank


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\leftparbox
  {\red \bf keyword}test
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}
\blank


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextA]{keyword}HERE
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword}HERE
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword
  1}HERE1
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword
  2}HERE2
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


\stoptext

  

  

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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 2/11/2021 à 21:41, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  You’re invited to join next Tuesday, November 9th, 15:00 CET (UTC+1)

at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke

ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!

Hans offered to give a Q session again – please announce subjects you’d like to discuss ASAP, so that he can prepare.
[...]

I would appreciate instructions to use Scite.
I follow what is in "scite-context-readme.pdf" and in
  "wiki.contextgarden.net", but I do not succeed.
Alain

 
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

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Le 9/10/2021 à 12:49, Wolfgang Schuster
  a écrit :

Alain
  Delmotte schrieb am 09.10.2021 um 11:23:
  
  Hi!


Le 9/10/2021 à 10:58, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

Alain Delmotte via ntg-context schrieb
  am 08.10.2021 um 22:07:
  
  Hi,


Some time ago I did prepare the files to support Esperanto
in Context (hyphenation and translation of terms).


I thought it was working, testing with the command \date,
which gives the correct format.


But today I remarked that the legends for Figure and Table
(and perhaps other) are in English.


The file lang-txt.lua is there and contains the translations
for Esperanto.

  
  
  The language definitions for esperanto in lang-def.mkxl are in
  the wrong order, the first definition has to be "eo".
  
  
  
  \installlanguage
  
  - [\s!esperanto]
  
  + [\s!eo]
  
    [\c!spacing=\v!packed,
  
     \c!leftsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!rightsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!leftsubsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!rightsubsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, %U+2018,
  
     \c!rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote,  %U+2019,
  
     \c!leftquotation=\upperleftdoublesixquote, %U+201C,
  
     \c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote,  %U+201D,
  
     \c!date={\v!day,-a\space de\space,\v!month,\space \v!year},
  
     \s!patterns=eo,
  
     \s!lefthyphenmin=2,
  
     \s!righthyphenmin=2]
  
  
  -\installlanguage[\s!eo][\c!default=\s!esperanto]
  
  +\installlanguage[\s!esperanto][\c!default=\s!eo]
  
  
  
  Wolfgang
  


Thanks Wolfgang, I did find the file and the wrong order.


Now, what should I do? I modified it outside context-lmtx in a
copy.


Replace the original and???

  
  
  You have to make the changes in the original file and afterwards
  generate the format file with
  
  
      context --make
  
  
  If everything works as expected report back and Hans can apply the
  fix on his machine to ensure they are included in the next release
  because when you make a update your changes are overwritten.
  
  
  Wolfgang
  

Thanks Wolfgang, it works perfectly.
You can report to Hans and thank him
for the nice work.
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

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Le 8/10/2021 à 23:10, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Am 08.10.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Alain Delmotte via ntg-context 
:

I am using ConTeXt lmtx: "system > ConTeXt ver: 2021.09.26 17:00 LMTX fmt: 2021.9.30 
int: english/english"
But it looks like Esperanto is not loaded:  "languages > language 'en' is 
active"

Trying to use
\setuplabeltext[eo][figure={Figuro~}]
\setuplabeltext[eo][table={Tabelo~}]
doesn't help.

What canI do?

Are you sure you set \mainlanguage[eo]?

(Can’t help you further, sorry.)

Hraban


Yes of course I did!

Alain


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[NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
Some time ago I did prepare the files to
  support Esperanto in Context (hyphenation and translation of
  terms).
I thought it was working, testing with
the command \date, which gives the correct format.
But today I remarked that the legends
for Figure and Table (and perhaps other) are in English.
The file lang-txt.lua is there and
contains the translations for Esperanto.
I am using ConTeXt lmtx: "system > ConTeXt ver: 2021.09.26 17:00
LMTX fmt: 2021.9.30 int: english/english"
But it looks like Esperanto is not loaded:  "languages
  > language 'en' is active"
Trying to
  use 
  \setuplabeltext[eo][figure={Figuro~}]
  \setuplabeltext[eo][table={Tabelo~}]
doesn't help.


What canI do?


Thanks,
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
OK for me.
What is the way to attend: just log to
  https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
  ??
Thanks for the proposal,
Alain

Le 30/09/2021 à 21:52, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  Ok, how about Tuesday (October 5th) at 15:00 CEST (11:00 EDT, 21:00 SGT)?

Hraban


  
Am 29.09.2021 um 07:09 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context :

Hi,

I think a regular online meetup would be great, and I agree with Hans that some way to collect topics would be nice. Re Time: I'd prefer Mo-Thursday during regular working hours (Central European Time), but maybe that should be offered at different times to accomodate for different needs?

Denis

  
  
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[NTG-context] Running the examples from METAFUN-p

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I am looking to METAFUN and I wanted
to follow the Growing Graphics demonstration (page 314-- ).
I copied the instructions and
everything went OK up to page 320; the command to place the
figure with a button returns an error:


  \stopoverlay}}


 1
  >> %% !TeX program = ConTeXt 
 2 
 3 
 4
  \starttext
 5 
 6
  \startbuffer[a]
 7 def
  start_everything = enddef ;
 8 def
  stop_everything = enddef ;
 9
  \stopbuffer
10 
11
  \startbuffer[b]
The
  control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message
  was never
\def'ed.
  You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

  It looks like \stopoverlay is not known!!! but \startoverlay is
  recognised!


Alain


  

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Re: [NTG-context] running tikz

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 30/09/2021 à 12:01, Henri Menke via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 11:57 +0200, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context
wrote:

  
Hi!

I would like to use tikz to benefit of the package "pgf-soroban" I
did write for LaTeX (after adapting it and before, later, to
translate it to metapost).

I did try the sample program from the tikz manual, but I get an error
saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not found; but it is in the tree of
ConTeXt-lmtx.

How to make all the files in the distribution known to the compiler?

  
  

Note that there is currently no proper support for LMTX in PGF/TikZ.

https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990

Cheers, Henri

OK, in fact it works in ConTeXt standalone, so I'll use that for
  the moment.
Thanks,
Alain


  


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[NTG-context] running tikz

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Hi!
I would like to use tikz to benefit of
the package "pgf-soroban" I did write for LaTeX (after adapting
it and before, later, to translate it to metapost).
I did try the sample program from the
tikz manual, but I get an error saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not
found; but it is in the tree of ConTeXt-lmtx.
How to make all the files in the
distribution known to the compiler?
Thanks,
Alain
%% ConTeXt file
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
    We are
  working on
   
  \starttikzpicture
       
  \draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);
       
  \draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
   
  \stoptikzpicture.
\stoptext
  


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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,

Le 25/09/2021 à 20:02, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  Hi all,

already for a while I wanted to suggest a regular online meet-up, just to chat or discuss ConTeXt and the world.

Participants of the just finished meeting already know the BigBlueButton “room”, and without the difficulty of a auditory in presence and a weak DHCP, we should have even less problems with it.

I’d offer this monthly, 2–3 hours, and let’s see if it stands the test.

Now, if you’d like to participate, which times would fit you (weekdays, daytime...)?

Warm regards,
Hraban

What is the BigBlueButton “room”?
I am interested.
I hope that the “just finished meeting” was enjoyable, calm, not
  necessarily reposing and of course fruitful.
Regards,
  Alain



  


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[NTG-context] Full success

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
Just to wish full success to the 15th
ConTeXt Meeting.
  
I would have liked to participate, but
it has not been possible.
Have good work, enjoy!
Alain

  
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

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Le 17/09/2021 à 08:47, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit :
On 9/16/2021 11:45 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
wrote:


Am 16.09.2021 um 19:45 schrieb Alain Delmotte via 
ntg-context :


I changef my antivirus and now I could install lmtx.


Besides that, most antivirus solutions for Windows since 
7 aren’t better than the builtins and often even open 
additional security holes.
which is true for any operating system (also phones etc) 
and popular ones get more attention of intruders


anyway, here i have never used anything else than the 
built in security essentials (that scan incoming stuff) 
and those don't complain about the binaries so i guess it 
was a false positive


Hans


That's what I did, I went back to Windows Defender

Alain



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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

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Hi!

Le 16/09/2021 à 09:54, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  9/15/2021 10:04 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi!


I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
and I always got an error message.


So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.


I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
if I erase everything and install from fresh!


So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
ConTeXt is not well installed.


I am stuck!


Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

  
  you could try standalone, then unzip the regular context archive
  over it, and put the bins from the installer in the bin path
  
  
  or just disable the virus scanner when installing
  
  
  (the bin is generated on windows so that implies that the mingw
  cross compiler on linux is adding a virus or that the native
  compiler does so)
  
  
  (maybe we should also add a native variant as alternative)
  
  
  Hans
  

I changef my antivirus and now I could install lmtx.
Thanks,
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 16/09/2021 à 09:54, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  9/15/2021 10:04 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi!


I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
and I always got an error message.


So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.


I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
if I erase everything and install from fresh!


So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
ConTeXt is not well installed.


I am stuck!


Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

  
  you could try standalone, then unzip the regular context archive
  over it, and put the bins from the installer in the bin path
  
  
  or just disable the virus scanner when installing
  
  
  (the bin is generated on windows so that implies that the mingw
  cross compiler on linux is adding a virus or that the native
  compiler does so)
  
  
  (maybe we should also add a native variant as alternative)
  
  
  Hans
  

Thanks Hans.
As I am the only one who reported this problem, it should be a
  local problem (not one coming from the cross compiler nor the
  native compiler -- unless you mean that part of the installation
  is compiled on my computer?). It could also be a false alert of
  the antivirus.
I'll test.
Alain



  
  

  


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[NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
  and I always got an error message.
So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.
I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
  but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
  says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
  them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
  if I erase everything and install from fresh!

So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
  ConTeXt is not well installed.
I am stuck!
Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

Any help?
Thanks
--
Alain

  


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