Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew Starks
Ack. Of course, it's my fault. :)

TEXCACHE != TEXVAR


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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
 On 11/19/2010 06:52 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

 luv comes from the cache --- perhaps  a wrong TEXMFCACHE ?

 Almost certainly. There was a MacTeX 'special' version of texmfcnf.lua,
 and that needs adjusting for the latest luatex / context combo. I am
 not quite sure what the best email thread is to link to, but I know that
 there have been other posts and people managed to actually make this
 work. Mojca perhaps?

 Best wishes,
 Taco
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[NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Starks
 : language load time- 0.090 seconds , nofpatterns: 1
mkiv lua stats : callbacks - direct: 3616, indirect:
5894, total: 9510
mkiv lua stats : lxml preparation time - 0.000 seconds, 0 nodes,
15 lpath calls, 0 cached calls
mkiv lua stats : result saved in file  - Excursion.pdf
mkiv lua stats : loaded fonts  - 40 files:
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lmroman9-bold.otf lmroman9-regular.otf lmsans10-regular.otf
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msbm10.tfm msbm7.tfm lmex10.tfm lmmi10.tfm lmmi12.tfm lmmi7.tfm
lmmi9.tfm lmmib10.tfm lmmib7.tfm lmsy10.tfm lmsy7.tfm lmsy9.tfm
rm-lmr10.tfm rm-lmr12.tfm rm-lmr7.tfm rm-lmr9.tfm
mkiv lua stats : fonts load time   - 5.098 seconds
mkiv lua stats : luatex banner - this is luatex, version
beta-0.64.0-2010111215
mkiv lua stats : control sequences - 32688 of 165536
mkiv lua stats : current memory usage  - 92 MB (ctx: 94 MB)
mkiv lua stats : runtime   - 148.526 seconds, 7
processed pages, 8 shipped pages, 0.054 pages/second

MTXrun | total runtime: 256.380


Is there something that I can do? I already tried to chown myname
-R /usr/local/texlive/2010

That didn't have any effect and I didn't think it would...

I'm running tlcontrib install with MacTeX 2010. Thanks!


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Re: [NTG-context] MacTeX / ConTeXt: Very long compile times, cache rebuilds every time

2010-11-18 Thread Andrew Starks
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:18 AM, luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:

 It seems that  I  need also to delete luatex.dll
 Doing so all things go well


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Wish I had a luatex.dll to delete. :(

;)

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Re: [NTG-context] Updating to Beta Builds of ConTeXt / LuaTeX from tlcontrib breaks MacTeX

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Starks
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

 - Does it help if you replace ~ with /Users/yourname in
 texmfcnf.lua? During the ConTeXt conference (and that was more recent
 than the current version of ConTeXt) the tilde didn't expand properly
 in some cases and I'm still not sure if it works flawlessly now.

  I don't think so; I never finished the code I started to write for
 Hans then.

 Does $HOME work? That may be better than hard coding /Users/yourname.

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No, but I've discerned that the:

 return {
   content = {
   TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
   TEXMFHOME  = '~/src/texmf-trms',
   },
   TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
   }

modification does not work for the MacTeX/TeXLive install. It needs to
go back to the:

TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var'

...varient.

BTW: the last coma after the last TEXMFCACHE entry didn't look right,
but deleting it did nothing. I tried combinations of order and $HOME
for only TEXMFCACHE, etc. Nothing changed it. All of this testing was
not on the tlcontrib tree. It was only on the MacTeX tree. Therefore,
I may be saying things that you already know.

Now that I understand why I was getting the v table value error, I
may try merge in the tlconfrib tree in, just for... you know... fun!
Then I'll try the $HOME variants on that configuration and let you
know.

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Re: [NTG-context] Updating to Beta Builds of ConTeXt / LuaTeX from tlcontrib breaks MacTeX

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Starks
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:02, Andrew Starks wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:

 - Does it help if you replace ~ with /Users/yourname in
 texmfcnf.lua? During the ConTeXt conference (and that was more recent
 than the current version of ConTeXt) the tilde didn't expand properly
 in some cases and I'm still not sure if it works flawlessly now.

  I don't think so; I never finished the code I started to write for
 Hans then.

 Does $HOME work? That may be better than hard coding /Users/yourname.

 No, but I've discerned that the:

  return {
           content = {
                   TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
                   TEXMFHOME  = '~/src/texmf-trms',
           },
           TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
   }

 modification does not work for the MacTeX/TeXLive install. It needs to
 go back to the:

 TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var'

 ...varient.

 Just a slight explanation. The first part content = {...} is useful
 for the latest version of ConTeXt that is shipped with tlcontrib. The
 second TEXMFCACHE is used by the old version that comes with TeX
 Live/MacTeX 2010 by default. They happily live together and the second
 one will be removed next year.

 The problem with tilde has been discovered recently (and not necessary
 fixed yet). You could try

 return {
    content = {
        TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
        TEXMFHOME = '$HOME/src/texmf-trms',
    },
    TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
 }

 but probably nobody has tested if $HOME is expanded properly in that
 particular case either. But in any case the first part will only make
 a difference if you use tlcontrib and the second part will only make a
 difference if you use the default old version of ConTeXt.

 BTW: the last coma after the last TEXMFCACHE entry didn't look right,
 but deleting it did nothing.

 The last comma doesn't change anything. (I like lua.) It's useful if
 you copy-paste new lines at the end, so that you don't forget to add a
 comma in between.

 I tried combinations of order and $HOME
 for only TEXMFCACHE, etc. Nothing changed it. All of this testing was
 not on the tlcontrib tree. It was only on the MacTeX tree. Therefore,
 I may be saying things that you already know.

 What exactly do you mean with MacTeX tree and tlcontrib tree? I
 have exactly these setting in texmfcnf.lua:

 return {
        content = {
                TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
                TEXMFHOME  = '~/Library/texmf',
        },
        TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
 }

 and
    ls ~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var/
 does show me luatex-cache. So maybe some expansion does take place.
 However I admit that I have never tried if TEXMFHOME set that way has
 any influence at all.

 Mojca
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ummm... yeah. I don't want to be all la-tee-da and stuff, but I
think i figured out nirvana. So, it appears that the latest beta
builds like:

--TexLive Version
--return { TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var' }

--tlcontrib Version
return {content={ TEXMFCACHE = '$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
TEXMFHOME = '$HOME/src/texmf-trms'},
TEXMFCACHE='$HOME/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var'}

so, I put the following into my bash shell:

function tlcontext {
sudo cp -f -v /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmfcnf-tlcontrib.lua
/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmfcnf.lua;
sudo tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010 update
context luatex metapost;
}

function tlmactex {
sudo cp -f -v /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmfcnf-mactex.lua
/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmfcnf.lua;
sudo tlmgr install context luatex metapost --reinstall;

}

-

which should be pretty obvious. Now it all works sweet. My motivation
for this is... unclear. I really just needed to install the latest
PGF/TiKz package to be good to go. But at least I'm (marginally)
smarter now. :)

Thanks, all! I'll let you know if I find anything else!
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[NTG-context] Updating to Beta Builds of ConTeXt / LuaTeX from tlcontrib breaks MacTeX

2010-11-16 Thread Andrew Starks
At Aditya's suggestion, I'm cross-posting this from tex.stackexchange.com

[Executive Summary:

I might be missing something really simple and I might be
overcomplicating something really easy. In short:

1: I installed MacTeX 2010.
2: I updated all packages using the normal trees.
3: I changed my TEXMFHOME variable in
/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf.cnf to ~/src/texmf, which is where I
keep my custom modules/templates/packages. (This is normally within
our github source control, but hasn't been yet.) and moved the content
from the old directory to the new.
4: I was beating my head against the wall, trying to make font
selection work using typescriptfile/typescript as well as simplefont.
The closest I could get was with simplefont and Palatino spewing
garbage text.
5: I decided to try http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/; with tlmgr using
sudo tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010 update
-all
6: I sudo texconfig rehashed (seemed okay), sudo mtxrun --generate
(seemed okay). Then I sudo luatools --generate and got something
that ended with  MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or
'mtx-base.lua'
7: Just typing luatools results in: MTXrun | unknown script
'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'
8: I tried editing the two texmfcnf.lua files that I found with:

 return {
content = {
TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
TEXMFHOME  = '~/src/texmf-trms',
},
TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
}

But had no effect.

That is where I'm at right now. Whenever I try to compile, I get:

MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
MTXrun | running command: luatools --generate
MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'

MTXrun | running command: luatools --make --compile cont-en
MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'

MTXrun | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting
MTXrun | total runtime: 0.321

The rest of this email is a more verbose description. Hopefully this
helps you and me, as well. (if only in the documentation department.
:))

] /endexecutive summary %:)

Copied then updated from:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5454/updating-to-beta-builds-of-context-luatex-from-tlcontrib-breaks-mactex


On a fresh install of MacTeX 2010, I was having issues with `mtxrun`
finding fonts and with fonts in general.

I decided to try to dl the betas. In an earlier
question(http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/5405/switching-to-context-minimals-missing-last-step-for-mactex-2010
(Thanks Kahled!) I found that the ConTeXt minimals were not proper in
this scenario.

So I followed the advice and used this repository. After running:

sudo tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010 update -all

...I did everything that I could think of to update the system at
various stages (I'm sure not everything was neutral or helpful)...

sudo texconfig rehash
sudo texconfig init
sudo mtxrun --generate
sudo luatools --generate

The last command is the issue, as it generates:

MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'

In my search on the interweb, I found that perhaps `texmfcnf.lua`
needed the following:

return {
content = {
TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
TEXMFHOME  = '~/Library/texmf-trms',
},
TEXMFCACHE = '~/Library/texlive/2010/texmf-var',
}

I did this to the file that I located in `/usr/local/texlive/2010/`. I
later found evidence that perhaps another `texmfcnf.lua` file needed
this golden block of code, but I could not find another instance of
this file.

So... whassup? It's a clean install if MacTeX 2010. I wonder what I'm missing.

Once this is solved, I'll post another question about fonts, as I have
yet to get those working with LuaTeX as the engine and `simplefonts`
as the method. `mtxrun` never has anything in its list of fonts
(`mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=*` or any conceivable
variation) and most font choices don't register at all, or in the odd
case of Palatino, result in garbage text. I have my `OSFONTS` variable
set to `/Library/Fonts`. But alas, for another question. I only post
it here in case the two issues are related.

Thanks everyone!

UPDATE:

I ran `sudo luatex --generate --verbose`

Here is the output:

   MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/x86_64-darwin'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr/local/texlive/2010/bin'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/usr/local/texlive/2010'
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to 'bin'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: loading configuration file
'/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: loading configuration file

Re: [NTG-context] Updating to Beta Builds of ConTeXt / LuaTeX from tlcontrib breaks MacTeX

2010-11-16 Thread Andrew Starks
First off, let me say that you all are the nicest set of developers
and project team members I have ever seen! If I had asked our
developers about an issue in an alpha build, they would have told me
where to go while raising a particular finger in an effort to say
what, I think, is something like, You're #1!

I appreciate the offer to roll back a build, but please! This is how
this all goes, right?

Anyway, following the instructions on the tlcontrib.metatex.org (or a
link from there) for restoring the stable versions, I got the
fabulous /usr/texbin/mtxrun:9359: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a
table value) on every ConTeXt command that I tried. Lacking the
appetite (and time) to go much further, I tried forcing the uninstall
of everything and then I reinstalled everything using tlmgr. It all
seemed to go whll, but still no avail. After restoring from tlcontrib
and getting only back to nowhere, I just nuked it all and am
reinstalling.

I'm happy to try again, if you all would think I have a better than...
oh... 30% chance of not having to nuke another time. If not, my next
stop is the rsync method. After that, I may have to return, hat in
hand, to LaTeX and check back with you guys in a month or so, just to
see where MacTeX support is at.

BTW: I really like this community and I very much like both what
ConTeXt and  LuaTeX have to offer. In my spare time (-4 hours a day or
so, more if I take my meds), I'd be happy to contribute. I'm much more
of a hack and know next to nothing about bare TeX, although I feel as
though I've done the impossible with my own set of macros. I may be
able to take on some documentation tasks and I also fancy myself a
better-than-average beta tester: not bitchy, test everything all of
the way through, report everything, patient, etc. If all-ya-all want
to point me at something that is in need of such activity, I'd be
happy to look at it. I may just see what can be added to ConTeXt
Garden, but it's hard to know where to start, what's obsolete, what's
good but incomplete, and what's entirely absent. I would need more
time actually using it to truly help, unless someone were to give me
instruction.

Best Regards,

Andrew Starks
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On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Andrew,

 Sorry for top-posting, just a few remarks:

 - I don't see anything basically wrong with your procedure.

 - I didn't try it yet, but after Taco released luatex 0.64.0 somebody
 already pointed out that the current version of ConTeXt is not
 compatible with the latest version of LuaTeX. I can roll back the
 luatex packages on tlcontrib if needed, but I would prefer to wait for
 Taco's response. (He needs to approve any change anyway.) So it might
 be that any trouble you experience is a sole consequence of that
 incompatibility. But I didn't check anything yet.

 - luatools doesn't make much sense in post-TL-2010. It has been
 replaced by mtxrun entirely. I thought that luatools would still work
 the same way as mtxrun though ... but maybe mtxrun has the same
 symptoms.

 - Does it help if you replace ~ with /Users/yourname in
 texmfcnf.lua? During the ConTeXt conference (and that was more recent
 than the current version of ConTeXt) the tilde didn't expand properly
 in some cases and I'm still not sure if it works flawlessly now.

 - You may also try to install ConTeXt minimals in parallel:

    rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
    ./first-setup.sh
    . tex/setuptex

 Mojca

 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 21:00, Andrew Starks andrew.sta...@trms.com wrote:
 At Aditya's suggestion, I'm cross-posting this from tex.stackexchange.com

 [Executive Summary:

 I might be missing something really simple and I might be
 overcomplicating something really easy. In short:

 1: I installed MacTeX 2010.
 2: I updated all packages using the normal trees.
 3: I changed my TEXMFHOME variable in
 /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf.cnf to ~/src/texmf, which is where I
 keep my custom modules/templates/packages. (This is normally within
 our github source control, but hasn't been yet.) and moved the content
 from the old directory to the new.
 4: I was beating my head against the wall, trying to make font
 selection work using typescriptfile/typescript as well as simplefont.
 The closest I could get was with simplefont and Palatino spewing
 garbage text.
 5: I decided to try http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/; with tlmgr using
 sudo tlmgr --repository http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2010 update
 -all
 6: I sudo texconfig rehashed (seemed okay), sudo mtxrun --generate
 (seemed okay). Then I sudo luatools --generate and got something
 that ended with  MTXrun | unknown script 'base.lua' or
 'mtx-base.lua'
 7: Just typing luatools results in: MTXrun | unknown script
 'base.lua' or 'mtx-base.lua'
 8: I tried editing the two texmfcnf.lua files that I found