Re: [NTG-context] Error setting up ConTeXt in MacTeX 2020

2020-09-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 01:48:16PM +0200, Felix Krause wrote: >> In your case validformatpath is a subdirectory of $TMPDIR, under >> /var/folders/. However, if your Mac is anything like mine, /var is >> actually a symbolic link to /private/var, so that dir.current() reports >> a path starting

Re: [NTG-context] A simpler way to install LMTX in macOS Catalina

2020-05-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Nicola, On Sat, May 30, 2020 at 11:09:28AM -, Nicola wrote: > 1. Download macOS's version of LMTX from > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation > 2. Unpack > 3. cd context-osx-64 > 4. xattr -d com.apple.quarantine bin/mtxrun > 5. sh ./install.sh It’s nice to report that to

Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: Unicode normalization and Hebrew in ConTeXt

2020-04-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 08:21:01PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 4/28/2020 6:16 PM, Joey McCollum wrote: >> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/michal-h21/uninormalize/master/char-def-with-ccc.lua), > looks like an ancient copy of char-def.lua I recognise this file name :-) That was from my

Re: [NTG-context] lmtx & lohit-devanagari fonts

2020-04-22 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 08:16:32AM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Does that mean that indic scripts/languages are now fully supported? (Or > maybe just scripts, not languages? Devanagari support was added a while ago. The layout engine was according to reports working for at least one

Re: [NTG-context] Question: Are there any ConTeXt aware scientific pulishers yet

2020-04-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 09:53:46AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 4/15/20 10:52 PM, denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org wrote: >> Yes, I gave two talks last year at the Public Knowledge Project >> Conference in Barcelona. One was about our general workflow (going >> from docx via pandoc markdown to

Re: [NTG-context] Unicode 13 – save the \dodo!

2020-02-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 11:22:26AM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > we are waiting for you to predict the future, when do you think nofemoji > will pass nofnonemoji (we could draw a curve of how much got added each > version of unicode) .. visualizing your argument could help It’s never going to

Re: [NTG-context] Unicode 13 – save the \dodo!

2020-02-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 10:47:46AM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > I’m aware, just joking around. It was hard to tell. > But we get new emojis all the time but AFAIK there are still > characters/glyphs or whole scripting systems missing. You do realise that it’s not the same people

Re: [NTG-context] Unicode 13 – save the \dodo!

2020-02-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 09:45:09AM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Hi, I’m a bit late: Last week the Unicode consortium released the latest > version of their nowadays mostly-emoji standard. Just for the record: it is not true at all that Unicode is “mostly emojis” nowadays. Even today,

Re: [NTG-context] checking whether file is landscape or portrait

2020-01-29 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05:43:36PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I’m afraid this is the second time I’m aware of the existence of \ifdim > (the first time was when reading previous message from Taco ). It’s a TeX primitive. From the TeXbook, chapter 20: * \ifdim (compares two

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX

2020-01-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 03:44:58PM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Thank you for the clarification! You’re welcome :-) > That means, I can mix e.g. {de,agr,ru} but not {de,en}, right? Exactly. In the latter case, even with both languages marked up, the mix of two completely different

Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX

2020-01-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:51:42PM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Just \mainlanguage[es] and \language[agr] (= \agr) where you need it should > be enough. As Thomas said, that shouldn’t be necessary. > You can’t expect ConTeXt to auto-detect your language, even if that maybe > would

Re: [NTG-context] characterspacing not always working in LMTX

2020-01-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:29:35AM +0100, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Dutch typesetting had some rules for thin spaces in a transition period from > full spaces (early) to no spaces (modern). > > Much of this change happened in the (late) 19th century, so I guess it had > more to do with

Re: [NTG-context] issue with beta from 2019.11.29 21:47 in Windows

2019-12-06 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Dec 05, 2019 at 08:31:45PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > He was impressed that I “developed” a > system with no coding knowledge, but he objected that ConTeXt wasn’t > standard software (the standard for him was OpenOffice.org). I replied > that the

Re: [NTG-context] metafun 2

2019-08-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:18:19PM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > I just wanted to ask, will LMTX and MetaFun remain valid implementations > of TeX and MetaPost or do we have to expect incompatibilities? If you mean “will luametatex pass the trip test”, the answer is probably no: LuaTeX already

Re: [NTG-context] GeoGebrra support (was Re: adjusting tikz pictures)

2019-04-26 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 09:29:38AM +0200, Gour wrote: > That feature is available in Classic4 which I now installed on my machine and, > according to the message, it's also in Classic5, but is not there ƣn the > latest > Classic5. :-( Then Mojca’s message still apply: someone should fix

Re: [NTG-context] local command description

2019-04-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hi Damien, On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 11:15:08PM +0200, Damien Thiriet wrote: > mtxrun --script server --auto > > [snip] > > mtx-server | context services: > http://localhost:8088/mtx-server-ctx-startup.lua > mtxrun --gethelp >

Re: [NTG-context] optional hyphenation patterns in ancient Greek

2019-04-03 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Pablo, On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:55:18PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > Since this isn’t about myself or my documents, I guess it is worth to > provide the optional hyphenation set to all TeX users, not only the ones > who use ConTeXt. You’re making it impossible to help you.

Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-02 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 10:19:36AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Ah, so should one make it a full path link then (if possible)? No, it doesn’t make any difference, the binary is found anyway. The problem is that mtx-context itself calls luametatex, so it needs to be in the path. Best,

Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-02 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 09:57:40AM +0200, Rudolf Bahr wrote: > I run cautiously the full path > > /home/sam/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun --autogenerate --script > context --autopdf ABCD-Helmstedt-Lauf.tex > > and got: > > sh: 1: luametatex: not found That’s because the

Re: [NTG-context] Welcome to LMTX

2019-04-01 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 04:55:11PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > The average user will probably not notice many differences but nevertheless, > when you are in for something new, you can give it a try: > > http://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm Fantastic! I’m pleased to report the first

Re: [NTG-context] optional hyphenation patterns in ancient Greek

2019-03-26 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 08:57:40PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I read your original message when you sent it, but the issue with that > kind of hyphenation exceptions is that they are document-based No. Why would they be restricted to a single document? > This is why I asked for the

Re: [NTG-context] optional hyphenation patterns in ancient Greek

2019-03-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
is by myself). Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:05:17 +0200 From: Arthur Reutenauer > In LuaTeX it’s now possible to inject patterns on the fly, at > typesetting time. I admit to not knowing if ConTeXt has a special way to > take advantage of that; it’s a simple command in pure LuaTeX. It wou

Re: [NTG-context] xtables rowspan

2019-03-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Felipe, On Mon, Mar 04, 2019 at 12:19:02PM -0600, Felipe de Jesús Molina Bravo wrote: > I don't know what is happening, but i don't receive emails from de list > ...only i receive the "Digest" emails. That’s a setting that you can change yourself:

Re: [NTG-context] ARIAL and hebrew

2019-03-03 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sun, Mar 03, 2019 at 11:47:24PM +0100, Willi Egger wrote: > I have a little project for preparing a vocabulary for an Ivrith student. — > The text should be typeset with Arial. However, when I try to use it I get > the vowel points between the glyphs instead of thereunder. Example,

Re: [NTG-context] How to define a new language?

2019-03-01 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 01:23:51PM -0500, Paul Hoffman wrote: > It's an invented language, so no one else will ever need to use it. Maybe so -- though you can’t know that for sure -- but if you’re down the path of requesting a change in a ConTeXt script to add it locally, you might as well

Re: [NTG-context] New logo proposal

2019-01-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 04:02:32PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > ok, let me add 1c ... since 2011 in the distribution there is always a file > context-version.[pdf|png] which is a colorful representation of the current > context version (date and time) ... probably no one ever noticed it I did! I

Re: [NTG-context] wrong hyphenation in ancient Greek?

2018-10-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 10:05:15AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > πρᾶ-γμα πρά-γμα-τος > > As far as I know, two consonants in ancient Greek aren’t hyphenated, > when they may begin a word. > > Γν may be the beginning of word in Greek (such as γνῶσις), but even LSJ > has no word that begins

Re: [NTG-context] issue loading fonts

2018-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:30:36AM -0400, Rik wrote: > On 10/23/2018 05:17, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > >>I can reproduce this. That means ConTeXt won’t let you use a >> regular-weight font face as the bold version of a font family, nor an >> upright font as an italic

Re: [NTG-context] issue loading fonts

2018-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 11:54:44AM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: > At least > mtxrun --script pdf --fonts > should show you the right names. Actually, even that can miss: I’ve just made a file with two different fonts that each identify themselves as TeXGyrePagella-Regular, one of which is the

Re: [NTG-context] issue loading fonts

2018-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:03:09PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 10/22/18 9:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> Are the bold and italic fonts listed when you run the fonts script? >> >> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all texgyrepagella* > > Yes, they are listed. That’s not what I observe:

Re: [NTG-context] devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

2018-10-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:08:01AM +0200, Melroch wrote: > I haven't seen the examples since my tablet refuses to display them, but I > wonder if you have run into a difference between Hindi and Marathi > typography. The repha in Marathi is sometimes represented as a slightly > curved stroke

Re: [NTG-context] devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

2018-10-19 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:50:14AM +0200, Ulrike Fischer wrote: > Screenshots and code that show the difference and the missing accent > in the xelatex and context output are in this comment > > https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-431288932 > > the older (perfect)

Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?

2018-10-19 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Luigi, Many thanks for this information-packed summary, it’s very uselful and I even learned a thing or two :-) Best, Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well,

Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella

2018-10-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But for single letters (such as in heading numbers [12.A.γ] and > references to them), I would like to use the Greek glyphs that come with > Pagella. I see: it clearly makes sense to use the same font for Greek and Latin in this particular case; but surely diacritics are not necessary?

Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella

2018-10-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:17:22PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > do you know if the new Greek glyphs will be extended to support > polytonic Greek? Not any more than Hans does, but I agree with his assessment that we shouldn’t count on it. I think it makes more sense to use different fonts

Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?

2018-10-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:14:21PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I tried to show that the em square is the fixed measure. It’s not. You misunderstand. You sent an example \startTEXpage[offset=1em] \framed{M} \framed{\tfxx M} \framed{\tfd M}

Re: [NTG-context] Questions to font family Pagella

2018-10-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:31:42AM +0200, Tomas Hala wrote: > Hans, thank you for the explanation, I agree, I did not like that cyrillic, > too. > > Does somebody know whether TeXGyre team plans some additions of cyrillic to > their font collection? The core team gave up on the idea of

Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?

2018-10-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I cannot claim that I understand his explanation, but it seems that > there is something about the em quad The em quad has the same width as the font size, that’s correct. But it still doesn’t mean that any part of any glyph in

Re: [NTG-context] what defines the font size?

2018-10-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:59:57PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 10/15/2018 10:02 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: >> None. The font decides about its size. > actually, the designer ... I quite liked the idea of the font itself deciding on its size, of its own free will ;-) To stress the point,

Re: [NTG-context] wrong hyphenation in ancient Greek?

2018-10-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 11:49:31AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I have just discovered that LuaLaTeX (from the TeX Live version that > comes with Fedora 32) does exactly the same with ancient Greek > (hyphenation is fine in modern polytonic Greek). All the TeX engines and formats use

Re: [NTG-context] wrong hyphenation in ancient Greek?

2018-10-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 11:05:01AM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > You're right, this shouldn't happen. I tried in vain to find the culprit in > lang-agr.lua and to see more with > > \enabletrackers[hyphenator.visualize,hyphenator.steps,languages.patterns] > > failed. Arthur is the guru

Re: [NTG-context] contextbeta moved or server down? SOLVED

2018-09-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Sep 08, 2018 at 03:32:47PM +0200, Michael Hallgren wrote: > Usually port 22, since rsync is usually run in ssh when between distant hosts. It’s actually pretty common for port 22 to be blocked, many free wifi providers do so. In Hans’ case, since he can change the configuration I don’t

Re: [NTG-context] The definitive guide to ConTeXt MkIV documentation

2018-09-02 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 06:12:49PM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > I was thinking about posting it on the Wiki as well but decided not to > because it is way too opinionated and reflects purely my experiences. That’s legitimate, but I think it’s still useful to have that information on the wiki, so

Re: [NTG-context] Font Awesome

2018-08-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 01:52:54PM +0200, Willi Egger wrote: > I am sorry but I do not understand what you wrote: from the name sin the font? From the names in the font :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of

Re: [NTG-context] integer displayed as .0 float in Lua-5.3

2018-08-12 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:29:41AM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > I realize that the fault is mine, but with backwards compatibility I > meant that the same operation (10 + "10") gives different results with > different Lua versions. It doesn’t, it returns 10 in both cases. The difference is

Re: [NTG-context] TeXLive and ConTeXt

2018-06-07 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> My point, as confirmed by Aditya, is that context should work without any > other user intervention when TL is installed. Yes, and nobody is saying anything to the contrary. It is a bug that it is not working; not a deliberate action, or evidence of sectarian behaviour. > I got your point

Re: [NTG-context] Reproducible PDF output not working

2018-04-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> On the other hand, with the 2017.11.14 version, the identifier in the > output of `context --nodates' is just > > foo The longer identifier is definitely better, but it should be possible to make it predictable over successive runs. > PS: Incidentally, what is the "-19:00" in date in the

Re: [NTG-context] Reproducible PDF output not working

2018-04-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hi Raghu, I can reproduce the problem you observe. Hans, it seems the identifier uses the time of compilation, when it should probably use the time of last modification of the source file. Best, Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] Build for Alpine Linux

2018-04-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:05:12AM +, Brian Hunt wrote: >> The caret in itself was not the problem, only that it was not escaped >> for the shell. Testing a regexp, with -E of course, is just as robust, >> and allows us to be more specific about what we test. > > Either is fine I am sure

Re: [NTG-context] Build for Alpine Linux

2018-04-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> A few notes: > a.) On some platforms fgrep has been deprecated (in favour of `grep -F`) so > it's not future-proof I don’t think the aliases fgrep and egrep have ever been supposed to be portable. POSIX has grep -F and grep -E, and that’s what we should use. > b.) The caret (^) passed to

Re: [NTG-context] Build for Alpine Linux

2018-04-08 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:26:35AM +1200, Henri Menke wrote: > This only blows up on Zsh.  I will contact the "config.guess" maintainer (from > where I stole that snippet). The unescaped caret is only a problem on zsh with EXTENDED_GLOB activated, but the effect of grep -q is problematic, and

Re: [NTG-context] Build for Alpine Linux

2018-04-08 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:50:16PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > I need to finish "parsing" > https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/091123.html I was wondering if anyone had paid attention to that :-) I realise the explanation is a bit long, but there were many details and I

Re: [NTG-context] decomposed u umlaut

2018-03-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:08:44AM +0100, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On 20 March 2018 at 08:42, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> I’ve one annoying problem with ConTeXt: all üs (small u umlauts) seem to be >> encoded as decomposed unicode or something like that, at least every ü >> breaks into u +

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 06:05:08PM +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > Arthur's > > if command -v ldd >/dev/null && ldd --version 2>&1 | fgrep -q '^musl' > > works for me, but again, there may be other corner cases that we don't see > now. I would suggest reversing the logic of this test: default

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> if ! command -v ldd >/dev/null || ! ldd --version 2>&1 | grep -E -q > '^musl'; then > libc=glic > else > libc=musl > fi Actually that’s nonsense, the opposite order is better (i. e. the original one). I’ll explain why after a good night’s sleep.

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> However, I was the one who requested the musl detection in config.guess > and the maintainer implemented the check like this for reasons of > portability. Without escaping the caret it’s not as portable as it could be. By the way, I checked in the mean time, and the problem with unescaped

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 06:05:08PM +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > On 03/24/2018 05:51 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> I reverted the change for now until someone can come up with a working >> command. > > > Arthur's > > if command -v ldd >/dev/null && ldd --version 2>&1 | fgrep -q '^musl' > >

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Arthur, with your command, I get an empty line as return. My question still > stands: what is the expected result for this test? Sorry, I should have been clearer in my previous email: the relevant part of that command is not its printed output on the terminal, but its return value, that you

Re: [NTG-context] linux binaries split?

2018-03-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> if command -v ldd >/dev/null && ldd --version 2>&1 | grep -q ^musl > then > libc=musl > else > libc=glibc > fi > > which appears to default to musl even if it is not present. But I don't know > enough about shell scripting to debug it - could it

Re: [NTG-context] TeXworks or TeXItEasy as ConTeXt editors

2017-08-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Hi Pablo, > I’m writing an introduction to ConTeXt in Spanish. Great initiative! > Does anyone know how to make the previous commands work with TeXworks? Not off the top of my head; you’ll probably find more help on the TeXworks list (http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/texworks), I’m

Re: [NTG-context] decomposed and precomposde glyphs

2017-02-23 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I looked at the code and it actually uses an idea that I had already > tried. The problem I couldn't solve was do decompose a glyph. > Looking at an context example it seems that context can do it. The B > with dot below (U+1E04) ends as BU+0323 in the pdf. But how does > context does it? It

Re: [NTG-context] minimals.contextgarden.net is down!

2016-12-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> the http://minimals.contextgarden.net/ website is down and it is not just me: This doesn’t seem to be the case any more. Best, Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as

Re: [NTG-context] Different text versions in columns?

2016-11-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> 1. Streams work in MkIV > 2. The MkIV version has a command to set sync points. That’s \pushoutputstreams, I presume. > Only the mechanism to create pages/columns for the stream content is > missing. Can you elaborate a bit? I’m having the following use case in mind: exactly two streams,

Re: [NTG-context] TwoColumns in two different languages, with alternate text on even and odd page.

2016-11-25 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 01:16:28PM +0100, Jean-Pierre Delange wrote: > I make a statement on a part of the Arthur's reply (" there are no real-life > examples of documents that use it") : in fact, there are rare examples of > such printing materials : scholar editing and printing of Ancient

Re: [NTG-context] Wrtiting in two languages

2016-11-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> 2) Second situation : you want to print a translation on the same page (say > the even page) as the original Greek text, with the commentary (or whatever) > on the odd page. I fear there is no way to do this at the time (that was > impossible with CTX early in 2016). I didn't retry these

Re: [NTG-context] Paranormal bug in TL 2016

2016-10-11 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Okay. This does not make *any* sense! I started merging files until the bug > disappeared and it happened when I merged cont-new.mkiv. The diff is > > -\newcontextversion{2016.05.17 10:06} > +\newcontextversion{2016.07.01 16:28} > > So this is basically the version number. Can someone

Re: [NTG-context] Wrong hyphenation when using patterns={fr,agr}

2016-08-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I see: > > languages > initialization > language 'fr', patterns 'agr,fr', > discarding conflict (0-9)'(0-9) > > so, the ' is used differently between the languages As I remember, French has 2'2 while Ancient Greek has 8'8 which are not exactly contradictory ;-) We could of course

Re: [NTG-context] lua tables - how do you cope?

2016-07-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 11:01:29PM +0200, Schmitz Thomas A. wrote: > Thank you, but this is not what I’m looking for. I know how to sort a table, > and I know the Lua table tutorial (the Lua wiki is, IMHO, really terrible and > disorganized). I have to construct deeply nested tables and

Re: [NTG-context] gmane might go off-line soon

2016-07-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Long story short: the sole maintainer of gmane is getting fed up with ddos > attacks and is thinking about terminating the service. That’s sad :-( It really was a great service. I can’t blame the maintainer, of course. > Maybe the approaching end of gmane would be a good motivation to

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

2016-05-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> liturgical latin uses œ́ from 1894 (Missale romanum: > en decreto sacrosancti Concilii Tridentini > restitutum. > https://archive.org/details/missaleromanume01churgoog) > It seems the first time it appears. Yes, that's one of the conventions they have for liturgical Latin. Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

2016-05-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 06:06:49PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > On 05/16/2016 03:14 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > > > But does ConTeXt have \la different from \ala because of the Holy See? > > > > See my reply to your earlier email. > > I agree with you that c

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

2016-05-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I understand that the world of Latin studies regarding printing Latin becomes > more and more a sum of parochial conflicts, which lay on specialization > (because, as you know, there are some differences between Republican Latin, > Imperial Latin, Latin written by Sidonius Apollinaris, by

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

2016-05-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But does ConTeXt have \la different from \ala because of the Holy See? See my reply to your earlier email. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

Re: [NTG-context] LaTeX reledmac: what about ConTeXt ?

2016-05-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But aren’t \la and \ala synonyms? They are two variants of Latin with completely different sets of hyphenation patterns: the original one, activated by \la, is about twenty years old, targets a "modern" spelling of Latin (characterised principally by a u/v and i/j distinction), and implements

Re: [NTG-context] [OT] Full-width justification (xkcd)

2016-05-09 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> PS: I guess that ConTeXt still lacks support for fillers and > > \startalign[snakes] > ... > \stopalign The snakes idea is actually pretty close to the practice of Kashida in Arabic typography (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashida), doesn’t ConTeXt already support that somehow?

Re: [NTG-context] Ligatures in EB Garamond

2016-01-19 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I have no clue what a package is supposed to do but any solution has to come > up with a list if words. I think the point is that often in German, breakpoints for hyphenation also break ligatures. I mentioned that in Nasbinals. Best, Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] Ligatures in EB Garamond

2016-01-19 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> The guts of the selnolig package just call \hyphenation{...}: > http://anorien.csc.warwick.ac.uk/mirrors/CTAN/macros/luatex/latex/selnolig/selnolig-english-hyphex.sty That's not the core part of the package, it just sets a list of hyphenation exceptions (that's what \hyphenation does). The

Re: [NTG-context] hyphenation exceptions?

2015-07-07 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 03:29:11PM +, Meer, H. van der wrote: The \hyphenatedword works here too. But it does not work out when the word Amsterdam occurs in the text. See tthe two examples. In the first Amsterdam is not broken according to the \hyphenation{Am-ster-dam}-rule. In the second

Re: [NTG-context] Unicode question

2015-03-12 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
The luatex code contains the lines (in unistring.w) if (val == 0xFFFD) utf_error(); return (val); in a function str2uni. I didn't really try to understand the code but it looks as if 0xFFFD is used as invalid marker: Interesting. This is not actually correct, U+FFFD is a

Re: [NTG-context] OT: Asymptote in Context

2014-12-29 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I guess that impress the gallery is a translation of an expression in French referring to the upper, low-price, standing room only balcony in theaters, populated by an audience that is easily impressed... Actually, it's amuser la galerie - amuse / entertain the gallery, rather than impress

Re: [NTG-context] git

2014-04-26 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
If someone has a permanently online machine to spare maybe they could set up a cronjob for Marius’s script: https://gitorious.org/context/context/source/d493b9c93ad826044bd17889da2ee099c8ed72d5:context_git_update.pl I could possibly do that; will look into it. Best,

Re: [NTG-context] OT: looking for a soviet font

2014-04-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I personally associate Soviet modernism very strongly with sans serif fonts. And in fact, to Joshua's excellent advice: Generally, I suggest to search through the ParaType offerings. They have many nice typefaces, which are not expensive. The new font they advertise on their home page,

Re: [NTG-context] Need for \buildtextaccent, was Re: latest beta

2014-01-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I don't think so. We can end up with a neverending and always incomplete list (with theoretically unlimited number of entries), usable only to those few people who will care to contribute. I couldn't agree more. Unicode already has mechanisms to encode just about any accented character, and

Re: [NTG-context] Overriding pdfview

2013-06-27 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I am half joking here; don't go down this route. Why? Users can override defaults, but most don't (and most certainly not by writing additional code themselves, except for a tiny minority). Why shouldn't reasonable defaults be provided? Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] Overriding pdfview

2013-06-27 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Unfortunately my version of evince doesn't always print correctly a pdf made by context mkiv \starttext $3v$ \par $3\omega$ \stoptext When I do print-preview, the math is not shown, and nothing is printed. As has already been mentioned, this could simply be a font issue, or a

Re: [NTG-context] Missing °C symbol in math mode with dejavu font

2013-05-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
In short, this is just some of the compatibility nonsense crippling Unicode, we are better off pretending they do not exist Second that. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well,

Re: [NTG-context] Percent symbol inside \type{}?

2013-05-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I have used a new subject line. If you see any problem that makes Changing the subject line is not enough. If you are reading another email sent to the list, and you press reply or something similar, the email you send will contain instructions to link it to the earlier email, and many mailers

Re: [NTG-context] New font (rival to Taco's cowfont?)

2013-05-17 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
http://nekofont.upat.jp/ At some point, people will have to stop the madness about cute cats ;-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist :

Re: [NTG-context] Automatic replacement?

2013-05-04 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
If I remember correctly You don't. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /

Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi

2013-05-01 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
The Germans do not like ligatures across compound words, and that is much harder to do in an automated way (not in fonts themselves at least). That's a good point, but it's a slightly different issue from prohibiting some ligatures altogether: in German ligatures should be disabled depending

Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi

2013-04-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
thinking of it: one reason why a general purpose word processor used by people with no idea about things like ligatures, is that ligatures are language dependent I don't think that's necessary relevant: the only example I can think of language-dependent ligatures is fi and ffi for Turkish

Re: [NTG-context] Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination fi

2013-04-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Quite so. The words I was wrong seem to be a bit difficult for some people. Yes, it's amazing how to some people you're wrong sounds like an offence, and the explanation of why an outright insult. Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live 2013 --- until when can we work on the man pages?

2013-04-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Does this mean any improvements to the man pages should be in on April 8; or that you want them May 20; or has the deadline already passed and are any improvements due next year? Mojca, perhaps you know this? The tlnet freeze means that there won't be any updates to TeX Live 2012 from that

Re: [NTG-context] [wiki] fake account spam

2013-04-05 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
3.) Install something like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount and/or maybe use both captcha and some context-specific question Adding an actual captcha seems like the way to go; it may not prevent all automated account creations, but it clearly filters much better than a

Re: [NTG-context] Representing TeX on the web [Off-topic]

2013-03-31 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
style span.TEX {letter-spacing: -0.1em;} span.TEX span.E {left: -0.04em; position: relative;top: 0.5ex;} /style body pspan class=TEXTspan class=EE/spanX/span/p Cute :-) Arthur ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] Representing TeX on the web [Off-topic]

2013-03-30 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
What is the standard way of representing the symbol '\TeX' in html and the like? I'm guessing the most common way is to simply write TeX in plain text, but if you want to be fancy, TsubE/subX would do -- at the risk of looking ugly. Related: Is there any movement to have '\TeX' registered

Re: [NTG-context] Proposal: making [[article]] and [[Article]] equivalent on the wiki

2012-09-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
PS: can anyone please explain me what's with http://wiki.contextgarden.net/First-setup.sh it's almost an infinite chain of redirects ... The real page, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/First-setup, is the one that actually makes least sense to me. It's a chain of 2, which is a little

Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt Book: Request for help!

2011-08-15 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Are we both talking about http://code.google.com/p/texworks/ ? Because that's free (GPLv2) and runs on Windows, OSX and Linux. I guess Kip meant WinEdt. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to

Re: [NTG-context] Using Mkiv

2011-06-24 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
I used the link you posted upthread and did rsync from the czech republic mirror. which context: /usr/bin/context. That's not what you want. You should use the location of your TeX Live 2011 pretest installation, which you apparently know, but:

Re: [NTG-context] \activatespacehandler

2011-06-10 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
The Unicode annotation of that character says graphic for space, so I guess it is the right character, but fonts might have not-so-suitable glyph That's two different things: U+2423 is the visual representation of a white space character (hence it can't be white space since it's meant to

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