Re: [NTG-context] Lucida doesn't work in TL 2013 / latest ConTeXt

2013-04-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Troy Henderson thend...@gmail.com wrote:

  Did we change something with the type 1? In mkiv ... we probably never
 finished the mappings ... waste of time now that we have otf.


 This makes me believe that I will eventually HAVE to purchase (and by
 purchase I really mean re-purchase) the OTF versions in order to use my
 Lucida fonts.  This is a bit discouraging.

 Troy


We just purchased the OTF versions.  I'd rather have TeX developers focus
on getting OTF support right than preserving legacy capabilities.  For
years we have been able to format old docs with current TeX systems.   Now
I just
hope the old docs will work without too many changes using OTF versions of
the fonts.






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Re: [NTG-context] epub

2012-02-20 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Jörg Hagmann joerg.hagm...@unibas.ch wrote:


 On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

 the alternative is to use html tags and of course there is a limited set 
 which in turn means all kind of 'class' attributes and additional css which 
 might as well not be supported by an ereader device .. the same is true for 
 math ... not supported by most ereaders so one ends up with fake math via 
 css which looks horrible etc etc

 Medical students hate formulae. They will be happy if I can't include them.
 Jörg

Not sure that makes better doctors.

It is sad that using maths in documents still requires extra work from
authors and limits choice of formats.   Given the difficulties with
using proper maths notation, authors too often throw a whack of words
into an attempt to express a concept that could be more accurately
conveyed by a simple equation.

I suppose it is time to start collecting examples of epub docs with
maths and filing bugs against readers that don't handle them properly.

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Re: [NTG-context] gnuplot

2011-08-19 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Xenia yor...@googlemail.com wrote:
[...]
 I tried following this instruction:
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Gnuplot#Unix_or_Mac

 But then I got:
 -
 $ ./prepare

 ./prepare: 47: aclocal: not found

 Some part of the preparation process failed.
 Please refer to INSTALL for details.
 -

 And in INSTALL and INSTALL.gnu the first step is to do
 $ ./configure
 but I only have a configure.in and configure.vms -file.
 I'm quite confused.

Most likely you are missing some of the build tools.   Look
for a package called build-essential.  You may need to add
some -dev packages for various libraries needed by gnuplot.
You might check the dependencies for debian gnuplot and
make sure you have the -dev versions of all the libraries.

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Re: [NTG-context] Any MacTeX users here?

2011-06-26 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to have a rough estimate about the number of MacTeX users
 that also use ConTeXt minimals (I use MacTeX for compiling LaTeX
 documents and often also use it for a month or two ... until it starts
 diverging too much with Minimals).
 [...]
 One problem that I'm not sure about is how to treat multiple
 installation on the same machine. The other one is the need for quick
 switches between distributions without GUI (I have a script texdist in
 /usr/local/bin, but I'm not sure if that one is up to date.)

I use MacTeX (but really only TeX Live as I seldom use the GUI tools in MacTeX)
for LaTeX and ConTeXt when it works; when ConTeXt in MacTeX breaks I
switch to Minimals.

I use a command-line tool, environment modules (experimental tcl
version from http://modules.sourceforge.net/), to switch between TeX
distros.  This adjusts the
environment in the current shell.

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Re: [NTG-context] a tiny set of documents for introduction to ConTeXt (for MacTeX)

2011-05-31 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Mojca Miklavec
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 In the preparation for TL 2011 Richard Koch asked about the following:

 We install some documentation about
 ConTeXt, LuaTeX, and XeTeX in /Applications/TeX,  mainly
 for people who only know LaTeX but would like to get a feel
 for later developments. That documentation needs to be up to
 date.

 At the moment there is the following document in there:

 The language mix
 Abstract
 During the third ConTEXt conference that ran in parallel to EuroTEX
 2009 in The Hague we had several sessions where mkiv was discussed and
 a few upcoming features were demonstrated. The next sections summarize
 some of that. It's hard to predict the future, especially because new
 possibilities show up once LuaTEX is opened up more, so remarks about
 the future are not definitive.

 One document for XeTeX contains two paragraphs, demonstrating usage of
 Arabic, Hebrew and Japanese:

 \newfontfamily{\A}{Geeza Pro}
 \newfontfamily{\H}[Scale=0.9]{Lucida Grande}
 \newfontfamily{\J}[Scale=0.85]{Osaka}

 Here are some multilingual Unicode fonts: this is Arabic text: {\A
 السلام عليكم},
 this is Hebrew: {\H שלום}, and here's some Japanese: {\J 今日は}.

 The idea is to have a simple, yet powerful example showing some
 capabilities of ConTeXt, together with source code.

One example is too limited -- very user has different projects in
mind.  I remember the quote from someone at Adobe after they
saw some ConTeXt documents we didn't know you could do that
with PDF.

 I find this important for promotion of ConTeXt to new users.

 The question is: does anyone have any good ideas what to put there?

I used to send people who wanted to find out what ConTeXt can do
to http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf, but it doesn't work
for me on linux, only windows (the Mac here isn't on the network).


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Re: [NTG-context] newbie questions

2011-05-31 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Sanja C. san...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Hi ConTeXt community.

 While looking for free (preferably open-source) tools which I could use for
 typesetting a planned internal newsletter-booklet for a non-profit 
 organization
 (to be released in printed form in regular intervals - each issue with new
 content of course, but same/similar style), I came across ConTeXt.

 I usually use Inkscape and various WYSIWYG word processing software for
 designing and layouting flyers/leaflets/etc., but in this case (many pages,
 varying and regularly updated content, consistent style) I'm afraid those 
 tools
 simply don't cut in in terms of professional-quality typesetting capabilities
 and content//style separation.

 So programmatic typesetting might be the answer. I thought of LaTeX first, 
 but I
 read from various sources that using ConTeXt might be easier for typesetting
 book-like things, especially if you want to design your own styles.

 Before I delve in deeper, though, I would like to ask you (the ConTeXt
 community) some questions:

 a) Is the ConTeXt project alive? The newest PDF documentation I could find 
 seems
 to be from 2007; most of it is dated 2003 or older.

It is very active, as you will soon see from the list traffic.

 b) Do you think that ConTeXt is an appropriate tool for the use case I 
 described
 (be honest please ;-)), and easy enough to learn for someone with almost no 
 TeX
 experience?
 The requirements are:
  - Support for elaborate, colorful, graphics-heavy design, which I would
 preferably create in Inkscape and then export as vector graphics (or port to
 ConTeXt's own graphics language) as necessary.

  - Ability to write a style *once* (with reasonable effort), and outsource 
 it
 to an external file (or files), so that for each new release of the 
 newsletter,
 only a simple content TeX file (or files) with minimal amount of markup is
 required (which e.g. even a non-tech-savvy writer/editor could edit)
  - Ability to easily include pictures in the content, and let the typesetting
 engine automatically position them (either in the main text area with text
 floating around them, or in special margin areas).

 c) Are there any full-featured examples of design-heavy booklets/magazines/etc
 created with ConTeXt., for which the full source code is publicly available?
 That would be *really* helpful in order to assess how much work would be
 required, and also to learn how exactly it's done in practice.

Have a look at http://pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf.  If you can find
a sufficiently insecure system (the Windows XP system at my work
qualifies) you will be able to browse into the sample documents.  I
think the Magazines entry deals with complex
layouts.

I'm involved with a scientific report series.  We hired a professional
who did the initial design in Pagemaker.  We then implemented this in
ConTeXt, mostly for the maths support, but the page layout was
superior too.  The implementation was a big job, but the professional
did a lot of the work and was very pleased at the quality of the
result.  It was not as hard as writing the LaTeX style we now use
(because authors already use LaTeX for journal articles but found it
difficult to get context working).

For projects that don't need maths we tend to use In Design or other
commercial tools, partly because printers understandably don't like
dealing with unknown software.  It takes some time to train the
printers to trust ConTeXt or LaTeX produced documents, and then the
company goes under or is bought out by a bigger company and you have
to start over.

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Re: [NTG-context] compresslevel and png graphics (mkiv)

2011-05-26 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 25-5-2011 2:43, Peter Rolf wrote:

 Hi,

 I just made a one pager (TEXpage) out of a big png graphic (5900x4094).
 The compressed size of the graphics is normally around 1.37MB on the
 highest png compress level (9) and 1.32MB after using optipng (only
 around 3% reduction this time). To my surprise the size of the final PDF
 was about 2.3MB. After adding '\pdfcompresslevel9' the size went down to
 1.48MB. Still not what I wanted...

 Normally I convert such images to pdf first (using acrobat or gs) simply
 because inclusion of pdf is much faster.

I too convert images to pdf first, but my mainly because I can control
the details
of the conversion to get the best result for each (type of) image.  Some images
are well suited to jpeg compression, others are better with reduced color space
and lossless compression.   The ability to directly include images in
whatevertext should be seen as a convenience, but not a basis for a
workflow where the final product has requirements for minimal size, color
rendition, etc.   There are many free image to pdf tools that all do
the easy cases
adequately but don't give the level of control needed for the difficult cases.

SVG is different because much of it is based on a graphics model that resembles
PDF.   Some SVG documents translate directly to PDF, but others, e.g., markers,
may blow up when translated.

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Re: [NTG-context] MkIV : MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

2011-05-23 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Mathieu DUPONT
mathieudup...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I followed all these steps to install MkIV on a Mac and to run it with
 either Smultron or TexShop :
 http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals/Mac_Installation

 However it works fine with Smultron (but I am more used to TexShop to run
 TeX files), with TexShop I get :
 MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
 Even after running the following command line :
 luatools --generate
 it doesn't help at all.

 Thanks for any hint,

 Mathieu

Not near my Mac system, but I seem to recall there was a change in the name
of the directory for the programs from  texmf-osx-intel to
texmf-osx-64 so you
would need to adjust the PATH setting from that given in the wiki.

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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography: current status, Wiki page Bibliography, [[error 2]] and bibltx

2011-05-20 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Paul Menzel
paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Dear ConTeXt folks,


 I am trying to use the module bib, but I only get [[error 2]] displayed.

I see the same result from context bibtest.

I was just trying the bib support with a fresh minimals.  At some
point, I read that the bib module
is no longer needed, so I tried without the \usemodule lines and got
the same result.  Then I replaced
the \completepublications and get something better, but ref. [1] is blank:

%orig: \usemodule[bib]
%orig: \usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=sample]
\setuppublications[numbering=yes] % Show reference numbers in the
generated list.

\starttext
As \cite[hh2010b] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric program.

\placepublications[criterium=all]
%orig:\completepublications
\stoptext


 I am following the Wiki page Bibliography [1], which suggests the
 following example (adapted by me).

        \usemodule[bib]
        \usemodule[bibltx]
        \setupbibtex[database=sample]
        \setuppublications[numbering=yes] % Show reference numbers in the 
 generated list.
        \starttext
        As \cite[hh2010b] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric 
 program.
        \completepublications
        \stoptext

 I copied the file `sample.bib`

        @STRING{hh = {Hans Hagen}}

        @ELECTRONIC{hh2010,
          author = hh,
          year = {2010},
          title = {Metafun. \CONTEXT\ mkiv},
          url = {http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/metafun-s.pdf},
        }

        @ARTICLE{hh2010a,
          author = hh,
          title = {The Font Name Mess},
          journal = {MAPS},
          year = {2010},
          volume = {40},
          pages = {2-8},
          keywords = {context},
        }

        @ARTICLE{hh2010b,
          author = hh,
          title = {Grouping in Hybrid Environments},
          journal = {MAPS},
          year = {2010},
          volume = {40},
          pages = {67-71},
          keywords = {context},
        }

        @BOOK{Eijkhout1991,
          title = {\TeX\ by Topic. A \TeX nician's Reference},
          publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
          year = {1991},
          author = {Victor Eijkhout},
          address = {London},
          keywords = {general},
        }

 from the bib module to the directory.

 Unfortunately I only get »[[error 2]]« displayed. Please find all files
 attached.

 Regarding `bibltx` the bib manual does also contain it [2][3]. Searching
 the Wiki for it, it says that it was dropped in version 2006.04.06 [4].


 Thanks,

 Paul


 [1] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
 [2] http://modules.contextgarden.net/bibman
 [3] http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc/doc/context/bib/
 [4] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Context_2006.04.06

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Re: [NTG-context] lm otf math

2011-05-12 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 12-5-2011 3:42, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Thu, 12 May 2011, Martin Schröder wrote:

 2011/5/12 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl:

 \starttext
   $e=mc^2$

 Shouldn't that be something like e=mc²?

 No. IIRC, we had a discussion sometime ago whether we should treat ¹,²,
 etc as
 valid superscripts in math mode, and decided against it.

 how about an article (for the maps/tugboat) about good math coding practices
 in these unicode times

Or a new book: Joy of ConTeXt (for those who remember Spivak's Joy of TeX).

Authors are going to provide tex sorce files that use e=mc² (and
unless someone does SEO
to ensure they find the afore mentioned article) will consider it a
bug when it doesn't work.
Other sources of confusion come when authors use a fixed font to edit
and try to match
glyphs (using Windows CharMap or BabelMap): you get 45˚N when it
should be 45°N),
or use auctex+preview in which $e=mc^2$ gives $e=mc^²$ in the emacs window.

There is a need for a TeXCharTool that does BabelMap stuff but
provides annotations describing appropriate TeX usages and can be
searched using legacy TeX markup (e.g., to assist with
converting old docs to unicode).

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Re: [NTG-context] bibliography basics

2011-04-29 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am 14.04.2011 um 15:20 schrieb Hagmann Jörg:

 I haven't used bibliographies before and have a few basic questions.
 I am using mkiv, current version: 2011.04.03 22:32.

 [...]

 2. Where can I get documentation? Can Taco's bib-module documentation still
 be used? (In my experiments in some cases, not in others).

 The manual is now available at the
 wiki: http://modules.contextgarden.net/bibman

In TeX Live 2010, texdoc bibmod finds a 284752 byte  bibmod-doc.pdf
that is identical to the one available from the above URL.

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Re: [NTG-context] Pi, Theta symbols are not rendered

2011-04-25 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:59 AM, Anand Raj anand.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 The symbols like Pi, Theta are not rendered properly.

I see this regularly when multiple versions of the same font are
installed on a system (so common that MacOSX FontBook.app provides
checks for duplicate fonts).

You need to provide enough detail (host OS, commands used to format
the document) and a minimal example so someone can reproduce your
problem.  Have you tried viewing the output with other viewers and/or
platforms?

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-23 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Xan dxpubl...@telefonica.net wrote:

 Thanks George of confirming the bug.

 In my opinion, the context package has to be ready for running. No
 intervention of user should be needed. For the other hand, I have problems
 running luatools, so we have a bug: or the first or the second.

Many packages require some user configuration before they can be used.
Some hide this and do the configuration in the background the first time
they are run, which assumes that the configuration is very robust (as you
can see, luatools may not yet qualify as a robust tool).   I do think the
requirement to run luatools should be made more visible to users, e.g.,
by having the context wrapper script make some checks before attempting
to run mtxrun, or by changing mtxrun itself (the advantage of making
changes in the wrapper is that they can be more distro specific and point
to /usr/share/doc/context/README.MarkIV).

As for the 2nd part of the problem, we don't have enough information to
know why luatools --generate isn't working for you.   I'm not sure exactly
what you have tried to get it working, but it would be helpful if you can do
the following:

1.  document the current status:

run (as normal user) luatools --variables, then use the value of
TEXMFCACHE for:

ls -lR TEXMFCACHE  (e.g., paste in the value shown for
 TEXMFCACHE)

2.  check that the luatex caches have suitable permissions, or just
delete them and try to recreate using a normal user login.

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-22 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Peter Schorsch trala...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I am also using Context on ubuntu - and it works fine here. There is one
 small change I like to do:

  luatools --generate

 is creating ~/luatex-cache. As this cache is not hidden it appears on the
 desktop. Is it possible to change that directory into a hidden directory
 e.g. ~/.luatex-cache?

Yes -- see /usr/share/doc/context/README.MarkIV

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-22 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:

 On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:

 I file a bug:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253

 Please, provide any comments you want.

 What you have reported there is not a bug. After installing ConTeXt, you
 need to run (luatools --generate) as a normal user; only then mtx-contex.lua
 will be found.

The need to run luatools --generate is not sufficiently
visible (it is in README.MarkIV).   Any package that requires
user configuration steps should have a mechanism to inform
the user that such steps are required.  I suspect the damage
was already done by the time the OP tried luatools --generate ,
and was perhaps made worse by running the command from
a root prompt.

 In your case, running luatools --generate does not help, and that is the
 bug.

You are right, but with a system like context it is sometimes better to
avoid stressing the tools by following standard procedures.

The OP ended up with /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex, which suggests that
MkII and/or fmtutil tried to install formats under /etc/texmf/web2c.   It may
be too much to expect luatools to recover when things are not where they
belong and files under $HOME are not owned by the user.

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-21 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Xan dxpubl...@telefonica.net wrote:
 Al 21/08/10 00:30, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:

 O
 When I run luatools --generate (as normal user) there are no errors.

 I don't have /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex on my system.   On debian/ubuntu
 /etc/texmf/web2c is for configuration files, but perhaps some program
 tried to put formats and logs there instead of the proper /var/lib/texmf:

 $ locate texmf/web2c/pdftex
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.log
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt
 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.log


 So I don't know what have to do!!!

It is hard to say without more information.   You appear to
have a /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex directory.   I suspect this
directory was created erroneously when making formats, in
which case it would contain .fmt and .log files.   This may mean
that one of the tools used to generate formats has a bug --
perhaps only triggered when run using the root account,
which is usually disabled on ubuntu, but this is
only conjecture.

If you have current hardware with ample disk and RAM
you could probably sort out the problem by installing a
fresh Ubuntu in a VM, repeating the steps you took to
get into this unhappy state but checking after each step
to figure out exactly when the configuration goes astray.
You can also experiment with various repair strategies
to see what works before trying to repair your main
installation.   I actually tried this, and was not able to
cause context to fail.   Using sudo luatools --generate
results in cache files that are owned by root but
still readable by a regular user.

Running luatools, fmtutil, etc. from root still didn't
produce /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex so I'm at a loss to
figure out how that could happen.   It would be nice
to know how it happened so steps can be taken to
prevent others from ending up in the same predicament.

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-20 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:

 Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:

  On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xandxpubl...@telefonica.net  wrote:

   Hi,
    I have installed context package
   [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory
  it's   the
   MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
    MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
    How can I fix it?
 
  Did you run luatools --generate?




 Yes I dit it.

 The output is:

 # luatools --generate

 '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/'
      ^
 r...@negre:~#

  

 Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. Run it
 as a normal user.

Good catch! I missed that.   To repair the damage the OP will need
to run something like: sudo chmod -R xane:xane ~/luatex-cache to
restore ownership to the OP.

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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-20 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Xan dxpubl...@telefonica.net wrote:

 Yes I dit it.

 The output is:

 # luatools --generate

 '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/'
      ^
 r...@negre:~#

  

 Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. Run it
 as a normal user.

 Aditya
 

 I have errors with normal user:

 x...@negre:~$ luatools --generate
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
 '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
 LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
 LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'configuration' for '/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
 LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' saved in
 '/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.lua'
 LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' compiled to
 '/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.luc'
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-config'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-config' not found
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-var'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-var' not found
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/texmf'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/texmf' not found
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/etc/texmf'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/etc/texmf' found
 LuaTools | fileio: hash '/etc/texmf' appended
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/var/lib/texmf'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/var/lib/texmf' found
 LuaTools | fileio: hash '/var/lib/texmf' appended
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/local/share/texmf'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/local/share/texmf' found
 LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/local/share/texmf' appended
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf' found
 LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf' appended
 LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
 LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' found
 LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' appended
 LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/etc/texmf'
 /usr/bin/luatools:5169: cannot open /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex/: Permission
 denied
 x...@negre:~$

When I run luatools --generate (as normal user) there are no errors.

I don't have /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex on my system.   On debian/ubuntu
/etc/texmf/web2c is for configuration files, but perhaps some program
tried to put formats and logs there instead of the proper /var/lib/texmf:

$ locate texmf/web2c/pdftex
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.log



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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan dxpubl...@telefonica.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I have installed context package
 [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's the
 MKIV package. But when I run context I get:

 MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

 How can I fix it?

Did you run luatools --generate?

 I have 10.04.

I use MKIV on Ubuntu 10.04 amd64, but from TeX Live 2010-pretest installed
using the CTAN installer, not from .deb packages.   A CTAN install can
co-exist with a package install as long as you don't let the installer create
symbolic links, so you can install TeX Live 2010-pretest without damage to
the Ubuntu packages.   If you have good network access to one of the
pretest archive sites then installing TeX Live 2010-pretest may be your
best route as you get newer versions of luatex, etc.  Many people have
much better network access to Ubuntu archives than they do to CTAN, in
which case the Ubuntu packages may be the only viable option.

For more debugging, follow the checks for versions, shadowing, etc. from
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation, in particular,
the Postscript: Mark
IV section, which does mention running luatools --generate as well
as manually
creating cont-en.fmt.


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 Xan.
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Re: [NTG-context] Ubuntu and Context MKIV

2010-08-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Xan dxpubl...@telefonica.net wrote:

 Al 19/08/10 15:48, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:

 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Xandxpubl...@telefonica.net  wrote:



 Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:


 On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xandxpubl...@telefonica.net    wrote:



 Hi,

 I have installed context package
 [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's
 the
 MKIV package. But when I run context I get:

 MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

 How can I fix it?



 Did you run luatools --generate?


 Yes I dit it.

 The output is:

 # luatools --generate
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
 LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
 '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
 LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf


 [...]

 Looks OK to me -- at least it finds /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
 and then looks
 in Ubuntu/Debian directories (/etc/texmf, /var/lib/texmf, etc).

 The next step is to run the checks from the wiki's Debian page
 (program versions,
 ability to find files, etc.).

 Did you have any previous TeX or ConTeXT installed on this system -- a
 common
 source of problems is intermingling multiple TeX systems (as opposed to
 keeping
 each one in a separate tree, which allows you to switch between a number
 of
 different systems).   Once you have verified that the right files are
 found you
 may want to file a bug report against the Ubuntu package.



 I have installed
 - texlive
 - context
 - pgf
 packages. That's all.

 So what's the problem?
 It seems perfect, isn't?

So there should be not be any conflicts with some other TeX disto.
Are you able to run the
various checks in the Debian wiki page?   I have the same packages on
my (amd64) system
and context is working.   Are you using 32-bit or the 64-bit Ubuntu,
gnome or kde?  When I run
luatools --generate I get more files:

LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 8540 files found on 612 directories with 310
uppercase remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: 17385 files found on 2747 directories with 722
uppercase remappings

maybe some package dependency was missed.  I use TL2010-pretest from CTAN, but
ended up with texlive  because something else (kile?) depends on it,
so it is quite possible
something dependency was left out in your installation.

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Re: [NTG-context] Using ConTeXt for a thesis?

2009-12-19 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Manuel P. ayeye.sysfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone! This is my first post here.

 I've a limited (but sufficient) experience with LaTeX (I've written several
 work-related documents with it) and now I have to write my undergraduate
 thesis (the deadline is mid-january 2010). I've been fairy impressed by a
 book typesetted with ConTeXt, so I used it for some documents and liked the
 idea and the configurability. The possibility of having a unique and
 personalized look-and-feel for every document is very appealing to me, and I
 have already began to assemble a style for the thesis.

 However, I've a very limited experience with it and I wonder: is ConTeXt the
 right choice in my circumstances? Can it be used without a degree in
 typography? I can't write half thesis and then stumble on some obscure (to
 me) typesetting problem, things have to be smooth and I need to concentrate
 on content (but I still find desiderable a good unique look). When I have a
 problem I try my best to resolve it by myself, but given the limited time I
 can't learn and investigate everything, so if I'll write my thesis in
 ConTeXt in some (desperate) cases I'll need your help.

 What do you think?

I was the first person at my institution to use a computer to type my thesis
(with a daisywheel printer that was essentially a modified typewriter) in the
days before TeX was accessible to students.

When you follow an existing process you benefit from the efforts of those who
have gone before, but when you do things in a new way you may find that your
efforts get more rigorous scrutiny.   I have heard of cases where some of the
institution's rules for thesis formats are not enforced because it is
too hard to
do that using MS Word, but the same exceptions are not granted to TeX users.

ConTeXt has been used, but different institutions have different rules
and expectations.
At many institutions there is already a LaTeX thesis style ready to go, but I
have heard of problems when these were used outside science, e.g, because
the science people don't use footnotes the same way as for other fields.

FInd out if LaTeX is used at your institution (even if you choose ConTeXt,
the LaTeX style can serve to document fonts and other details.  Find out
who enforces the institution's standards and discuss your plans with them --
they may be able to help you identify particular trouble spots in advance
so you can get more specific help/advice while there is time to change plans.

 Thank you all!

 PS: I live in Italy, sorry for my probably imperfect english!

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[NTG-context] typo in bibl-tra.mkii: firstiftwoarguments -- firstoftwoarguments

2009-09-13 Thread George N. White III
ConTeXt  ver: 2009.09.11 18:14 MKII  fmt: 2009.9.13  int: english/english

Using MkII documents with bibliographies fail because
\firstiftwoarguments is undefined.   Guessing this was
meant to be firstoftwoarguments seems to work:

$ diff -C3 bibl-tra.mkii.orig bibl-tra.mkii
*** bibl-tra.mkii.orig  2009-09-11 08:59:47.0 -0300
--- bibl-tra.mkii   2009-09-13 07:51:39.0 -0300
***
*** 1183,1189 
  \def\doifbibreferencefoundelse#1%
{\preloadbiblist
 \doifdefinedelse{pbdk-#1}
!  {\firstiftwoarguments}
   {\showmessage\m!publications{5}{#1 is unknown}%
\secondoftwoarguments}}

--- 1183,1189 
  \def\doifbibreferencefoundelse#1%
{\preloadbiblist
 \doifdefinedelse{pbdk-#1}
!  {\firstoftwoarguments}
   {\showmessage\m!publications{5}{#1 is unknown}%
\secondoftwoarguments}}



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Re: [NTG-context] Perfect Mac OS X Installation?

2009-04-05 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de wrote:

 On Apr 4, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Markus Hubig wrote:

 Hi @all,

 i've done a fresh install of ConTeXt Minimals on my Mac OS X box.
 Now I like to put my setup steps into a small script so my brother can
 use it. It wold be nice if someone can give me some comments ...
 maybe I missed something, maybe I did something stupid!

 - Markus

 Your script is clever, but in my experience, you can simplify the process. I
 have a TeXLive install and the ConTeXt minimals on my OS X box. In order to
 use them, I have two configuration files. Here's the one for the minimals
 (which is named .minicontext):

 PATH=/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH
 export PATH
 export TEXMFCACHE=/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-cache
 export TEXMFCNF=/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf/web2c
 export
 TEXMF={/Users/tas/texmf,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-project,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-fonts,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-local,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-context,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-extra,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf}
 export
 LUAINPUTS={/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua,/Users/tas/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base,/Users/tas/texmf/scripts/context/lua}

 I simply run source ~/.minicontext, and my system is set up. The syntax is
 for zsh; if you're running bash or (heaven forbid!) tcsh, you may have to
 adapt it slightly; and of course, adapt the path variables to your own
 needs.

There is a tool designed specifically for this sort of adjustment to
the environment,
called environment modules:

http://modules.sourceforge.net/
http://www.nersc.gov/nusers/resources/software/os/modules.html

This was standard kit on SGI Irix -- now that we are replacing the SGI
workstations with
MacOSX at work I use the (experimental) tcl version.The big
advantage of using
environment modules is that it reliably restores the default environment.

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Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:

 Alan Stone wrote:

 The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual
 and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time
 (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a piece
 cake. As such, every effort in trying to explain it in a way that's
 understandable to non initiated people can only be appreciated and
 welcomed.

 Any remaining inclarity in any published documentation is by definition
 unexpected by the author of that documentation. So if something is
 unclear, you really have to mention specifically what it is exactly
 that is unclear. Otherwise, no progress will ever be made...

When I write, I try to guess the level of understanding/background of the
reader.   With fonts (also graphics) it isn't appropriate to provide all the
background in a TeX documentation, so what is needed is a some
pointers to the required background material.   I do expect a reader
who comes without the required background to find things they don't
understand, but the way to handle that is to send them to the appropriate
references.

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Re: [NTG-context] Simplified input for natural tables

2009-03-09 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:10 PM, John Devereux j...@devereux.me.uk wrote:

 [...]
 I find that writing documents for context - once you get used to it -
 is much nicer than using a wordprocessor.

 But the process of entering tables remains tedious and error prone,
 compared to e.g. the Word equivalent that many will be used to.

Many of my tables are results from some numerical computation,  I usually
write a short program to print the data in the required ConTeXt/LaTeX
format.   The others I try to find some similar existing table and update
the text.

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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-10-03 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Armando Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any idea about the most Tex-friendly Linux distribution, please?
 Thomas Schmitz told me OpenSuse (which I 've been using for a year...) is
 not that Tex-friendly...

You need to say a bit more about your circumstances and goals.   90% of TeX
should work well (excepting experimental bits like luatex, xetex, and ConTeXt
MKiV which may need some tweaks) on all current platforms, but if you are
constrained by site policy to use binary packages provided by your
distribution,
that is an entirely different problem from whether you can use TeX
Live from CTAN.

If you rely heavily on .dvi and want a viewer (e.g., kpdf) that is
integrated with your
desktop, then your options are more limited, but you should think
about switching to
a PDF workflow (because it is well supported outside the TeX
community, there are
more and better tools for PDF than for DVI).

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Re: [NTG-context] The most Tex friendly distribution?

2008-10-03 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 18, 2008, at 7:30 AM, Peter Münster wrote:

 You're right, but I've to protect suse a bit: this was only an issue
 with a
 very new MKIV (new logic how to use TEXINPUTS), and suse could
 really not
 know about that. TEXINPUTS was quite useful, because every user
 could put
 his own personal directory in it, and there did not need to be an ls-R
 file.

TeX Live 2008 has TEXMFHOME set to $HOME/texmf in the default
configuration file (configured so ls-R is not needed).

 Well, no offense, I used to be a big fan of SuSE myself (still like it
 a lot, but their package manager really needs work). But: I just
 double-checked, and TEXINPUTS is still set on my 11.0 system - even
 though I don't have any SuSE-provided TeX-system installed. That's
 really unpardonable. I can understand why they want to set it for
 their own TeXLive packages, but not on a virgin system without any TeX
 component. For an inexperienced user who wants to install TeXLive from
 DVD or via the net installer, this will be a major obstacle. So I
 think the point remains valid: SuSE is not a TeX-friendly distribution.

Having TEXINPUTS set when TeX is not installed is not nice, but it is
really a trivial issue.  Someone who uses SuSE should post a note
explaining how to remove TEXINPUTS (hopefully in a way that will
survive updates) and file a bug report with SuSE.   Distributions are
can only be as TeX friendly as their users -- otherwise you get
what is needed to build program documents and no more.

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Re: [NTG-context] showcase on mac?

2008-10-03 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Frans Goddijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Willi Egger helped me get a minimal install working on my mac and I'm
 working on a collection of columns illustrated with pictures. It's
 been a while since I used Context so I want to download some basic
 manuals to refresh my memory and learn new things.

 On my Windows machine I can view/navigate and download manuals from the
 http://www.pragma-ade.nl/showcase.pdf
 page, but on my mac this doesn't work. In the Safari browser, nothing
 happens if I click on the manuals link. In Firefox, the showcase PDF
 is downloaded and I can open it. After allowing the file to go full
 screen, I get error messages for the links there was an error opening
 this document/ the file cannot be found', execpt on the quit link ;-)

 Is there a simple thing I should change to make it work on the mac as
 well?

works for me with 10.5.5 safari, although there are so many manuals that
I can't tell which is which.  Time to get a bigger office so I can fit a bigger
screen.

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Re: [NTG-context] Miktex

2008-10-01 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:06 PM, David Arnold wrote:
 Mojca,

 Thanks.

 On:

 http://blog.miktex.org/post/2008/05/ConTeXt-support.aspx

 At the bottom of the list, these seem to be the errors that another
 user reports.

 Please keep me informed. I need to have mptopdf working for my
 students in the Miktex tree.

 I'm just as lost as others are. I have no idea what's wrong. I suspect
 it's about spaces in filenames, but need to try it out.

Since mptopdf works for me, it isn't about spaces.   It looks like the
mptopdf program could be better replaced by another simple script:

Try:

C:\Testingpdftex mptopdf \processMPfile{example.1}
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7)
[MP to PDF] (example.1{C:/windows/profiles/gwhite/Local Settings/Application Da
ta/MiKTeX/2.7/pdftex/config/pdftex.map}) [1] C:\windows\profiles\gwhite\Local
Settings\Application Data\MiKTeX\2.7\fonts\pk\ljfour\jknappen\ec\dpi600\ecrm100
0.pkC:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmex10.pfbC:/Program
 Files/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmmi10.pfbC:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.
7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmmi7.pfbC:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/blu
esky/cm/cmr10.pfbC:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmr7.pfb
C:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy10.pfbC:/Program File
s/MiKTeX 2.7/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmsy7.pfbC:/Program Files/MiKTeX 2.7/font
s/type1/bluesky/ams/msbm10.pfb
Output written on example.pdf (1 page, 32785 bytes).
Transcript written on example.log.

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Re: [NTG-context] Newbie Problem With ConTeXt/MacTeX-2008 Distribution

2008-09-27 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Stanley Hudson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Trying out ConTeXt on a Macbook with the MacTeX -2008 Distribution.
 The following compiles on ConTeXt live at the Garden, but does not
 work locally.

 \usemodule[pre-05]

 \starttext
  \TitlePage{A Sample Presentation}
  \Topics{Informative Talk}
  \Topic{First item}
 Some information goes here
 \Topic{Second Item}
 More information goes here
 \stoptext

 This is what I get:

 TeXExec | processing document '/Users/tom/Desktop/stuff/razzle/
 firstfile.tex'
 TeXExec | no ctx file found
 TeXExec | tex processing method: context
 TeXExec | TeX run 1
 TeXExec | writing option file firstfile.top
 TeXExec | using randomseed 1382
 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
 TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
 This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (Web2C 7.5.7)
  %-line parsing enabled.
  (/usr/local/texlive/2008/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
 entering extended mode
 (/Users/tom/Desktop/stuff/razzle/firstfile.tex

 ConTeXt  ver: 2008.05.21 15:21 MKII  fmt: 2008.9.27  int: english/
 english

 [...]
 systems : system commands are disabled
 [...]
 Topic   : - First item
 system  : Topic not found/processed
 [MP firstfile-mpgraph.3999]
 ! Missing number, treated as zero.
 to be read again
\endcsname
 \@@amvbox ... -\pagebackgroundvoffset +\endcsname
   \c!topoffset \relax
 \box \...
 argument ...ght\c!left }\interactionmenu [right]
   \getvalue {\??am
 right\c!r...

 \firstofoneargument #1-#1

 \next2 #1,-\docommand {#1}
\doprocesscommaitem
 \doprocesscommalist ...item \gobbleoneargument #1,
   ]\relax \global
 \advance \...
 ...
 l.8 \Topic{Second Item}

 ?

 Any suggestions on what is wrong?

I get the same error using TL2008 on linux, so it looks like a bug in
context.  All is not lost, however, as your file does work using MKiV
with the context minimal distro:

$ context t
[...]
MtxRun | run 2: luatex
--fmt=/Data/opt/tex/context/linuxtex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e94a94633d1c5da1888b5ba67f423e84/formats/cont-en
--lua=/Data/opt/tex/context/linuxtex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/e94a94633d1c5da1888b5ba67f423e84/formats/cont-en.lua
./t
(t.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.15 09:41 MKIV  fmt: 2008.9.27  int: english/english

[...]

mkiv lua stats : runtime   - 8.756 seconds, 3
processed pages, 3 shipped pages, 0.343 pages/second
-

So the solution lies somewhere between 2008.05 MkII and 2008.08 MkIV.
Simpler documents do work using 2008.05 MkII in TL2008, but if you are
starting out you may do better to focus on MkIV.

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Re: [NTG-context] Texlive 2008 on Windows (Vista)

2008-09-10 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Mohamed Bana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone actually testing texlive 2008 on vista?  Or is it just me :)

Is Vista that different?

On WINE, with TL installed to C:\texlive\2008, I got a little further, after
editing context.cmd because wine set %~dp0% to the current path:

@echo off
setlocal
REM set ownpath=%~dp0%
set ownpath=C:\texlive\2008\bin\win32\
texlua %ownpath%mtxrun.lua --script context %*
endlocal

Having done this, I still see not found errors:

$ context --make
[...  locating, loading ...]
MtxRun | using script: C:/texlive/2008/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-contex
t.lua
MtxRun | running command: luatools --make --compile cont-enFile not found
MtxRun | running command: luatools --make --compile cont-nlFile not found
MtxRun | running command: luatools --make --compile mptopdfFile not found

Have you tried using luatools to see if mtx-context.lua is found?

It should be a trivial exercise to just move your TeXLive to a path without
the space.  Somewhere the changes to the registry are mentioned and
are minimal, just the PATH setting,  Also, watch for problems with settings
left from old TeX installs (many MiKTeX users have TEXINPUTS).

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt and TeXlive 2008

2008-09-07 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Marcin Borkowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just downloaded and installed the long-expected TeXlive 2008:).  My
 question is: is it's ConTeXt up-to-date?  What about ConTeXt upgrades?
 (TeXlive 2008 can upgrade it's packages automatically; does anyone know
 how long will it take for new ConTeXt versions to propagate to TeXlive?)
 It would be much more convenient not to have two distinct TeX
 installations: one for LaTeX and one for ConTeXt...

 Thanks in advance

Do you need MKIV?  I fear it is too new and changing too
rapidly for TL, even with updates.

I've just been trying to get my ConTeXt stuff working, so while I can't
comment on the plans of ConTeXt's authors, I can tell you what
works for me, namely, MKII but not MKIV   The latter says it can't
find lm fonts.

The version of luatex in TL2008 is:

$ which luatex
/usr/local/texlive/2008/bin/i686-pc-linux-gnu/luatex
$ luatex --version | head -1
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.25.4-2008081616

From the linux minimals:

$ luatex --version
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.28.0-2008071500

MKIV from minimal is working for me (Fedora 8 32-bit).
The environment modules system makes it easy to
have multiple TeX systems installed.

The current luatex version (from http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/luatex)
is 0.29.

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live and ConTeXt MKIV installation and maintenance

2008-07-12 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it possible to test texlive without uninstalling texlive2007
 installed by a system package manager? Last time I tried texlive 2008,
 mkiv setup was reading texmf.cnf that came with system installed
 tl2007, and therefore could not find the correct files. I want to test
 tl2008, but at the moment cannot afford to uninstall tl2007.

I have two versions of TL2007 (Red Hat's and one I maintain from
the svn repo) and have been testing TL2008 without removing.
TL is designed to work from a self-contained tree, but there are
a few potential problems to watch for:

0. Some Windows GUI environments may store the information
gleaned from the TeX configuration when they are first
installed, so you need to check which versions are being
used and be prepared to use command-line stuff if your
editor makes bad choices.   This can also be an issue
with some *x GUI environments whre the app is started
by the GUI and doesn't see changes to the path made
in your current shell.

1.  the default on is to have texlive//texmf* trees with
texlive/texmf-local available to all the versions.  If you have
put updates to TL2007 in your texmf-local, they may be older
versions than those in TL2008.  The same applies to updates
in $HOME/texmf.

2.  on *x be careful not to have the installer create symbolic links,
e.g., in /usr/bin.  You can then select the version you want
by adjusting the PATH variable.

On *X I recommend the environment modules tools to manage
your PATH.  This is available in some linux distros, and comes
with SGI Irix.   Another approach that works on WIn32 and *x
is to write a script that sets the path and loads a shell.  Then
you can use that for command-line processing, or start emacs
from the command-line to use AUCTeX.

3.  formats and configs may end up in $HOME/.texlive,
which is OK if you are using only one install for a given year,
but can cause problems if you end up with two installs for the
same TL version.  The solution is to make sure you use the
   tool-sys versions to put configs and formats into the system
   directories.


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Re: [NTG-context] distro info

2008-06-30 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Jesse Alama wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec writes:

 On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jesse Alama wrote:
 Thomas A. Schmitz writes:

 The basis for my own comments in this thread do not lie in a preference
 for graphical tools, but rather for a straightforward way to stay
 up-to-date with the whole of ConTeXt in a way that ctxtools does not
 currently provide.  A command-line interface for that would be great,
 and so would a graphical tool.

 That's not a general solution, but if you need it for yourself, you
 can put the following to some file and execute it whenever you want:

 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/beta/
 /path/to/your/texmf/
 rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux/bin/
 /path/to/your/binaries/
 etc.

 There's a limited set of folders that you need to update, and it will
 only update new files, you don't need to update everything.

 Two questions:

 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync,

 It only downloads newer files  you can fetch binaries

 as
 you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext?  Are those equivalent?

 It downleady the whole zip every time you call it.

 2. It looks like the subdirectories that I want are

  common
  context
  luatex
  man
  metapost

 if I want to follow only luatex development.  (The only subdirectories
 that aren't in that list are mswin, which doesn't apply to me, and
 pdftex and xetex.)  I'd like to just put this on top of my TeXLive
 (2007) distribution.

What I did to enable current context with my TL is:

1.  create a seaprate texmf-ctx tree that is populated from the .zip
archive

2.  create a parallel bin/i386-linux-l directory and put it before
/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux in the path.  Note that
this should have symbolic links to the scripts in the texmf-ctx tree
to ensure that the current scripts are used.

3.  copy the updated binaries to the bin/i386-linux-l directory

 What about trying to install TeX Live 2008? It desperately needs
 testers at the moment, and all that you will need to do to stay up to
 date is fetching:
 - luatex
 - context itself
 - maybe luatool  mtxrun

 Once I copy thse binaries to my TeXLive binary
 directory, what's the next step?  Do I need to rebuild the ConTeXt
 format, for example?

 Yes.

It is important to catch as many problems in TL2008 as we can now,
and it is intended to have a current ConTeXt.  When you use free
tools there is some moral duty to help make them good, not only
for your own benefit, for for others.  Fresh eyes often spot problems
that experienced users overlook.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt on MikTeX broken

2008-05-06 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, George N. White III wrote:
   On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Mojca Miklavec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't
  work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this
  workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary:
 ruby C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
  2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb texexec
  
I'm not so quick to blame MiKTeX -- I suspect texmfstart.rb would need
to provide some path searching tailored to MiKTeX.   It seems to rely
on $0 with a tetex/texlive directory structure where SELFAUTOPARENT
can be used.

  Christian has indeed replied that he uses the binary version of
  texmfstart from CTAN (which is a bit older that the one on PRAGMA).
  But I still don't understand what can go wrong in the middle of
  nothing, without any major changes. So there is either a problem in
  MikTeX or in ConTeXt.


The only criticism of MiKTeX is that it is silly to distribute
a broken package, but then it is up to ConTeXt users to report breakage
and, ideally, supply fixes.

  I completely agree. Except that I have no MikTeX any more. And I don't
  have the slightest idea what could have caused the problem. I don't
  see any serious changes in the texmfstart code that could break the
  3-week-old version, while it has worked OK before.

  Mea culpa. I should have forced Hans to fix it during BachoTeX ... :)
  I will try to misuse some windows computer next week to see if I can
  find any bugs (but it's difficult to test since one cannot simply
  modify the ruby script as on other platforms).

You can replace texmfstart.exe with a .cmd script::

C: type texmfstart.cmd
@ruby c:/PROGRA~1/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texmfstart.rb %*

C: ruby c:/PROGRA~1/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texmfstart.rb
texexec.rb cont-sample2e
TeXExec | processing document 'cont-sample2e'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file cont-sample2e.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 780
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.8-alpha-20080323 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(cont-sample2e.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english

language: language en is active
system  : cont-new loaded
(C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex

FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!

FormatVersion   : 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII
FilesVersion: 2008.04.18 14:17

TeXUtil | parsing file cont-sample2e.tui
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 297
TeXUtil | expansions: 308
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 1
TeXUtil | temporary files: 0
TeXUtil | commands: 30
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
TeXExec | runtime: 0.641

c: texmfstart texexec.rb --make
TeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich'
TeXExec | updating file database

.
...
...
..
.

[...]
TeXExec | generating mps format metafun
mpost: Invalid command-line option

[The command line can be captured by renaming mpost.exe to
mpostbin.exe and making a script:
type mpost.cmd
mpostbin %*

This shows:
mpostbin -alias=metafun -initialize -tcx=natural.tcx --8bit metafun

[...]

With this, I can format simple documents.  The mpost problem seems to
be with the --8bit option, which comes from
tex.rb.


  (But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway.
  Else more would have complained.)
  
Don't complain, just switch to a platform/distro where ConTeXt works
and use mpm (since few others provide updates with the speed and
convenience of MiKTeX).
  
I think MiKTeX should remain focusing on the packages and binaries,
and rely on upstream to fix broken packages.

  I agree. But I have thought that some change in MikTeX might have
  occurred in the meantime.

The problem with mpost suggests some tweaks are still needed
to handle differences between linux and miktex command lines.

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Re: [NTG-context] acroread and reload a PDF

2008-04-23 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:43 AM, Thomas A. Schmitz
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  On Apr 22, 2008, at 11:57 PM, zs wrote:

   I recommend you to use evince viewer. I suppose, its output is
   even nicer than acroread's one.
   C-R reloads are supported.
  
   ZS

  While I like and use evince on linux, I must also say that it's still
  not a very good viewer. Just to give you an example:

When talking about evince, it is important to check which rendering
libraries are used.  I have documents that render correctly on my
debian box with at least one of the available evince packages
(linked to poppler 0.6.4), but not on Red Hat Fedora 8 (linked to
poppler-0.6.2), where some fonts are shown with ?.

While writing documents, I tend to use either apparition, which is fast
(as long as it is running on the local machine -- it can be very slow
over a network), or Emacs DocView  just makes a png image of each
page -- often enough to make sure some TeX fragment is working
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Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases

2008-04-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robin Kirkham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear all,

  I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my
  research group, and I'm looking at software like refbase http://
  refbase.sourceforge.net/ or refdb http://refdb.sourceforge.net/ to
  replace the somewhat random collection of personal BibTeX .bib files
  we have.

  Does anyone have any experience or advice to offer in using such
  things, and hooking them up to ConTeXt?  Most of these systems will
  of course emit a .bib file which will obviously work, but will any
  emit the .bbl so I can forget about BibTeX?  Will luatex one day
  connect to a bib database and fetch the details of a cited
  reference?  Is there a ConTeXt approved way forward for this sort
  of thing?

I can tell you a few things that don't work!  In our lab we have both
TeX and Word users.  Many of them had been using a DOS package
called papyrus, using a special markup that could be translated
to tex (.bbl) files.  Nothing we found was really satisfactory, so
we bought EndNote, which could import from papyrus via refer
format and can export to almost bibtex.  One problem is that
EndNote uses unicode, so we end up with è, etc. that must
be translated for some user's versions of bibtex.  The database
now has a nearly infinite variety of different quote marks:
`a`, 'a', ``a'', a, etc. depending on how the entry was made
(many are pasted from online or pdf sources).

EndNote is really designed for individual users, although sold
in bulk.  If 2 people open the same database on a shared
drive they end up with a corrupt database.

In my view, a bibliographic database needs to store each
reference in the source or original format, whether bibtex,
refer, or one of the newer forms, and provide translators
and version tracking, so each file can have forks for different
uses (e.g., ascii vs unicode char. sets) and edits can be
preserved for the next user.  In practice, people just dump
selected refs to a bib file, make the .bbl file, and fix problems
there, so fixes rarely make it back to the master database.
If they did, we would still have accents and quote marks
being switched back and forth depending on who last used
the entry.


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[NTG-context] bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

2008-02-19 Thread George N. White III
Consider the trivial test file:

  -
% example from: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography
% Format using:
%   $ texexec --once t-cont
%   $ bibtex t-cont
%   $ texexec t-cont
\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=xampl]
\starttext
As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
program.
\completepublications
\stoptext
   -

Following instructions:
   -
 texexec --once bibdemo
TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 595
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(bibdemo.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
[]

Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
Transcript written on bibdemo.log.

pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
???.
TeXExec | runtime: 2.828
  ---

I don't see this on my linux machines with older versions of ConTeXt and
pdftex.
Simple LaTeX documents and ConTeXt documents that don't use the bib module
don't give the error, so it looks like the bib module reveals a bug in
pdftex-1.40.n,
for some n larger than 3.


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Re: [NTG-context] migrating to ConTeXt

2007-12-29 Thread George N. White III
On 12/24/07, Aditya Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Gour wrote:

  5) I read LaTeX in proper ConTeXt pdf, but I'm interested is there some
  helper to convert classical LaTeX book (book class) to ConTeXt? I've two
  books which I'm considering to publish as one (~1000p) in the future, so
  any help in conversion would be nice.

 I do this quite often (ConTeXt - LaTeX), so I am just writing my thoughts
 about this. A general purpose translator from ConTeXt to LaTeX is VERY
 difficult, because of the nature of both macro languages. However, it is
 relatively simple to convert a subset of one to the other. Currently, I
 write most of my papers in ConTeXt. For the final version of the paper,
 most journals want LaTeX. I know my style of writing ConTeXt, and can
 easily convert 95% percent of it to LaTeX using regular expressions (and
 have been thinking of exploring gema in more detail:
 http://gema.sourceforge.net/). It is easier to do the rest by hand rather
 than writing a script that takes care of all the corner cases. Usually it
 takes me around 2 hours to convert a (30-40 page) paper from ConTeXt to
 LaTeX. Since this needs to be done only once every six months or so, I
 have not spent too much time trying to optimize my approach. I think that
 the same will be true for conversion from LaTeX to ConTeXt. However, I
 would suggest that you start by writing some ConTeXt documents by hand,
 before you automate the conversion. This way, you will know what you want
 to achieve from a conversion script.



This is consistent with my experience.

I suggest that anyone considering such conversions creating a simple test
document with one example of each construct you use.   I took Lamport's
sample2e.tex, added a figure and a table, and then made a context version
which is part of my test suite for new  tex installations.


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Re: [NTG-context] Header unwanted on first page

2007-12-01 Thread George N. White III
On Dec 1, 2007 7:03 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I can't seem to see something which is certainly obvious!
 I have this in my setups:
 \setupheadertexts [section]
 \setupheader [style=\ss\xii]
 \setuphead[section][style=bold]


 I don't want the header to appear on the first page, I tried various
 solutions but failed so far.


I use:

\noheaderandfooterlines
\setupheadertexts[text][XX][YY]

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[NTG-context] kpse.rb bad guess for distribution (web2c vs miktex)

2007-11-23 Thread George N. White III
I use MiKTeX's package manager to install updates on linux TeXLive.
I put mpm in /opt/miktex/bin, which causes
kpse.rb to deduce that distribution=miktex (rather than web2c).  Here
is a trivial patch that adds a test for mswin:

$ diff -C 3 kpse.rb.orig kpse.rb
*** kpse.rb.orig2007-01-11 11:52:06.0 -0400
--- kpse.rb 2007-11-23 12:59:11.0 -0400
***
*** 64,71 

  # @@distribution  = 'miktex' if ENV['PATH'] =~ /miktex[\\\/]bin/o

! if ENV['PATH'] =~ /(.*?)miktex[\\\/]bin/i then
! @@distribution = 'miktex' unless $1 =~
/(texmf\-mswin[\/\\]bin|bin[\/\\]win32)/i
  end

  @@re_true = /yes|on|true|1/i
--- 64,71 

  # @@distribution  = 'miktex' if ENV['PATH'] =~ /miktex[\\\/]bin/o

! if (Config::CONFIG['host_os'] =~ /mswin/)  (ENV['PATH'] =~
/(.*?)miktex[\\\/]bin/i) then
! @@distribution = 'miktex' unless $1 =~
/(texmf\-mswin[\/\\]bin|bin[\/\\]win32)/i
  end

  @@re_true = /yes|on|true|1/i



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Re: [NTG-context] Getting the default pdf fonts working on texlive 2007

2007-10-26 Thread George N. White III
On 10/26/07, Berend de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Hi Guys,

 Just had sometime to update to texlive 2007 from the DVD that was on
 the shelf for quite some time.

 But as usual, the default postscript fonts don't work.

Since I gave away my NeXT system, I no longer have Adobe fonts.
Linux has (some version of) the URW fonts, so that is what I use.

Most of the font support in TL is for LaTeX.  ConTeXt started out using
plain tex mechanism and then took a different approach.   Look for
mfont.pdf on the ConTeXt site (I don't see it in TeX Live).   It explains
how to generate the missing map files as well as the typescript.

You might look into XeTeX and (eventually) luatex, which are supposed to
make it easier to use system fonts.

 Setup: default texlive 2007. No cont-sys.tex. I used updmap --edit to
 change LW35 to ADOBEkb.

 Here my test file:

 ==
 \setupbodyfont
   [postscript,11pt]

Try just [pos,11pt].  I get:  (using the MKiV context with the svn version of
TL, so your results may not be quite the same, but this stuff shouldn't have
changed much.

[...]
fonts   : using map file: ec-urw-times
{/Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/../../../MKiV/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/ec-urw-times.map}
fonts   : using map file: ec-urw-helvetica
{/Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/../../../MKiV/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/ec-urw-helvetica.map}
fonts   : using map file: ec-urw-courier
{/Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/../../../MKiV/tex/texmf-fonts/fonts/map/pdfte
x/context/ec-urw-courier.map}
fonts   : using map file: original-youngryu-tx
{/Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/texmf-cont/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-
youngryu-tx.map} [1.1]
systems : end file test at line 10
 ){/Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/texmf-dist/fonts/enc/dvips/base/8r.enc}/Da
ta/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/urw/helvetic/uhvr8a.pfb/
Data/opt/tex/texlive/svn/Master/texmf-dist/fonts/type1/urw/times/utmr8a.pfb
Output written on test.pdf (1 page, 13169 bytes).




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[NTG-context] luatex on debian

2007-10-12 Thread George N. White III
debian (unstable,testing?) users can get a snapshot release of luatex in
apt package form.

This works for me, but there are a few things that needed slight adjustment, so
I wanted to report them here to encourage others to start testing it.

I needed to set TEXMF=/etc/texmf.  Luatools doesn't seem to handle the {..}
in the variables that are combined in TEXMF.   Also, when it didn't find
AlProTex.sty, the message indicated that it couldn't find AlProTeX.sty
('x'--'X')!

For testing, you can just set some simplified TEXMF, e.g.,:

export 
TEXMF={$HOME/texmf,/usr/local/texmf,/usr/share/texmf-texlive,/usr/share/texmf}

or you can edit /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf to simplify things like:

TEXMFDIST = /usr/share/texmf-{texlive,tetex}

In my case, I no longer have texmf-textex, so this became just

TEXMFDIST = /usr/share/texmf-texlive

Then run: update-texmf and luatools --generate

You can check the TEXMF variable with:

$ luatools --expand-var TEXMF

More tests to make sure the configuration is working:

$ luatools  msam7.afm
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/fonts/afm/bluesky/ams/msam7.afm

Then build the format:

$ luatools --ini --verbose --compile cont-en

and compile something:

$ texexec --luatex foo
TeXExec | processing document 'foo'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file foo.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 967
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en

This is luaTeX, Version 3.141592-beta-0.11.2-2007092410 (Web2C 7.5.6)
(./foo.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKIV  fmt: 2007.10.12  int: english/english
[...]


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Re: [NTG-context] debian: itemize start=0

2007-10-10 Thread George N. White III
Your example looks OK to me, and we seem to have the same software:

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.09.28 16:52 MKII  fmt: 2007.10.9  int: english/english



On 10/10/07, plink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 on debian testing this small file

 \starttext

 \startitemize[n]
 \item one
 \item two
 \stopitemize

 blahblah

 \startitemize[n,continue]
 \item three
 \stopitemize

 \stoptext

 gives an itemization that starts at zero, plus the continue does not
 work either (context version: 2007.09.28 16:52
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.tex)).

 Any hints or preliminary solutions greatly appreciated.


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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread George N. White III
On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 when using the fourier font I get the wrong size of the opening { in
 the \startcases \stopcases environment. The following small example
 shows the problem and it fails both at my place and at
 http://live.contextgarden.net/

I wonder if this is the missing design size in lm fonts problem.   Using
ConTeXt ver: 2007.08.23 the sizes look OK for me.


 
 \usetypescript[fourier][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

 \starttext
 \startformula
 f(x)=
 \startcases
 \NC 1 \MC x0\NR
 \NC 0 \MC x0\NR
 \stopcases
 \stopformula
 \stoptext
 

 I run the minimal ConTeXt, from 8th of august:
 ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.08 14:35 MKII  fmt: 2007.8.26  int: english/english

 Moreover, if I comment the first lines out above, the opening { is
 stretched correctly (in latin modern).

 Any ideas?

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Re: [NTG-context] Too small { in the fourier font

2007-08-30 Thread George N. White III
On 8/30/07, Mikael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Update:

 This seems to be a problem that is introduced after 20070403. I am
 running that version at work (minimal installation on linux there
 aswell), and there it looks OK with the fourier fonts.

There have been some major changes in font handling.   It turned out that
the lm fonts didn't define a design size but apparently it didn't matter until
quite recently, and then more recently a workaround was added.  I wouldn't
be surprised to see the problem in other fonts either because they use lm
for some glyphs or because they were created using the same toolchain.

 Another problem is given by $\hat f$. In the older one it looks OK,
 but in the newer the hat is placed wrongly. New minimal example that
 shows both these problems:

 
 \usetypescript[fourier][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt]

 \starttext
 \startformula
 \hat f(x)=
 \startcases
 \NC 1 \MC x0\NR
 \NC 0 \MC x0\NR
 \stopcases
 \stopformula
 \stoptext
 

 Any ideas? I don't want to switch back to ver 20070407 if it is not 
 necessary...

I'd try the latest version first.  Normally I have my systems
configured with a separate
texmf-cont tree that I link to cont-tmf-date so I can very quickly
switch versions.


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Re: [NTG-context] plain tex, context and latex

2007-08-27 Thread George N. White III
On 8/27/07, Liesbeth van der Plas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really!. That's really a disadvantage of Latex!  I thought Knuth's
 primitives plus macro's were together 'plain tex' and thus untouched in both
 Context and Latex.

No -- in some cases there are real conflicts, but in this case, you might
get away with just pasting lines 598--632 from plain.tex, bracketed with
\makeatletter and \makeatother (which will also be needed around your
table).

\documentclass{minimal}

\makeatletter
\newif\ifus@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]

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\makeatother

\begin{document}

\input tufte

\makeatletter
$$\vbox{\settabs 3\columns
  \+This isa srangeexample \cr
  \+of displayedthree-columnformat.\cr}$$
\makeatother

\end{document}

 Thanks for your help.
 The reason to write a booklet in Latex instead of in context was that I
 wanted to use some amstex macro's. Is it possible to use amstex in context
 as well?

What part of amstex?The math-ams module defines characters, but
I'm not sure
about some of the advanced layout stuff.

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Re: [NTG-context] lost after upgrade

2007-08-27 Thread George N. White III
On 8/27/07, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le 27 août à 12:38:38 Mojca Miklavec [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment:

 | On 8/27/07, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  Hi all,
 |  Yesterday I issued:
 |  ctxtools --updatecontext
 |  and everything seemed as usual.
 |  But when trying to compile a standard file, I get:
 |  ...
 |  ConTeXt  ver: 2007.08.20 22:17 MKII  fmt: 2007.8.21  int: english/english
 | 
 |  language: language en is active
 |  system  : cont-new loaded
 |  (/usr/local/texlive/2007/../texmf-local/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
 | 
 |  FatalError  : Your format does not match the base files!
 | 
 |  FormatVersion   : 2007.08.20 22:17 MKII
 |  FilesVersion: 2007.08.27 09:11
 |  ...
 | 
 |  and it fails. I tried to go to all the steps described in the wiki (for
 |  texlive install), no joy :-(
 
 | Try
 | kpsewhich cont-en.fmt
 | or
 |locate cont-en.fmt (after running updatedb)
 | It should point you to [something]/we2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
 | Remove all the .fmt files inside that folder
 | ([something]/we2c/*/*.fmt): well, at least cont-en, you may leave the
 | latex format files untouched if any.
 
 | Then run
 | texexec --make --all
 | and try again.
 
 Thanks Mojca,
 But strangely I got the same message after rebuilding! Then I remove again
 the fmt files and try ctxtools --updatecontext again; same thing again!

 I also tried with another file, no more success!

Did you do the step of finding and removing all the old .fmt files?

On my system, fmtuil-sys puts the cont-en.fmt formats in
texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/ and texmf-var/web2c/xetex/,
but the context tools put them under texmf-config, so it
is all easy to end up with multiple versions of the .fmt files.


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Re: [NTG-context] lost after upgrade

2007-08-27 Thread George N. White III
On 8/27/07, Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Le 27 août à 17:29:24 George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit 
 notamment:

 | Did you do the step of finding and removing all the old .fmt files?
 
 | On my system, fmtuil-sys puts the cont-en.fmt formats in
 | texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/ and texmf-var/web2c/xetex/,
 | but the context tools put them under texmf-config, so it
 | is all easy to end up with multiple versions of the .fmt files.

 OK, things are back to normal now after I removed cont-en.fmt and
 cont-nl.fmt from my home ~/.texlive2007/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex and /xetex,
 I still don't see where this problem came from as it is not the first time
 I did an update.

The format files in ~/.texlive2007 are generated by fmtutil --all.   I
try to remember
to use fmtutil-sys --all so they go in texmf-var.

 The files were not recreated by texexec --make --all.


I doubt texexec knows about ~/.texlive2007 -- that was done so individual users
on multi-user systems could make personal formats without the need for the
intervention of an adminstrator.   For safety you might want to
disable context in
the fmtutil configuration.  I tend  to do a fair bit of pdftex testing
so it is convenient to get the cont-en format when I build the others.

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Re: [NTG-context] Learning ConTeXt

2007-08-20 Thread George N. White III
On 8/20/07, Saji Njarackalazhikam Hameed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [...]
 And then there is the wiki:

 http://wiki.contextgarden.net

Highly recommended.

 I think the best way to learn is by trying to make the document you want
 in ConTeXt and asking questions to the mailing list when you cannot figure out
 how to do it.

Another strategy is to find a document that can serve as a template for
what you need.   The wiki provides examples of fragments to do a particular
task, and there are lots of examples of complete documents available,
including the pdftex manual and various slide presentations.

 * Istvan Hollerbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-20 12:24:04 +0200]:

  Hi Everybody,
 
  I want to learn ConTeXt, but 'cont-enp.pdf' and 'mp-cb-en.pdf' do not
  explain many things in detail, for example the parameters of command
  \setuplayout on the page 24 of cont-enp.pdf. Or am I careless? How shall
  I start to learn? And how shall I go on learning?
 
  Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] starting out with MKiV -- oversized math fonts

2007-08-19 Thread George N. White III
On 8/19/07, Peter Münster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or undersized bodyfont, since the bodyfont is smaller with luatex, than
 with pdftex.

You are right -- it appears that \setupbodyfont[NNpt] only affects the math
font, and that the default is 12pt.  If I use NN=10, the fonts agree.
A convenient
way to check is \showfontstrip.

So, how do I get 12pt body font using MKiV?

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Re: [NTG-context] makempy (pstoedit - gs) hangs

2007-07-30 Thread George N. White III
On 7/30/07, Arthur Reutenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have patched 'pstoedit.dll' version 3.44 (0x6B674: 0x20 -- 0x25)
  and so it works with gs 8.57 for me!

   (Yes, that 2-bit patch ;-)

   Great! In the mean time I exchanged mail with the author of pstoedit
 (thanks to someone who forwarded my previous mail to him ;-) and it
 should be fixed in the next release of pstoedit (3.45). Actually the
 problem was (of course) a bit more complicated than what I first
 described and there was a reason why getorigfont should call itself
 recursively; and why it wouldn't work with newer versions of gs (I can
 explain it in case anyone is interested).

I'm interested, but it is good to post the explanation so it becomes
part of the public record google can find.  Problems like this have a
way of cropping up many times -- it will be a few years before all linux
distros have updated to the new version, and some will make backports
of the patch.  The next people who encounter this will benefit from seeing
the explanation so they can make the fix in somewhat different versions
of pstoedit..

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Re: [NTG-context] makempy (pstoedit - gs) hangs

2007-07-29 Thread George N. White III
On 7/28/07, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hallo!

 Downgrading to gs version 8.11
 does NOT help, but downgrading to 8.11 AND changing the makempy
 methode from pdf to ps helps!

 gs 8.57 hangs with ps too.

 If an ps guru can interpret the gs error message, I will send this of
 list!?

The way to proceed is to come up with a minimal ps or pdf file that
triggers the bug.  It might help to pinpoint the problem if you can
compare a mpy-foo-mpgraph.pdf that break pstoedit -f mpost with
a different mpy-bla-mpgraph.pdf (or .ps) that works.  Since pstoedit
mucks with ghostscript's SYSTEMDICT it isn't surprising that problems
arise for newer gs versions.  Maybe it is time for ghostscript to get
an mpost driver.

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Re: [NTG-context] PNG output

2007-07-12 Thread George N. White III
On 7/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to convert my standalone formulas to PNG to display these formulas
 on my website.

 What I am doing is the following

 \starttext
 \startTEXpage
 \startformula
 e^{i x} = \cos x + i \sin x
 \stopformula
 \stopTEXpage
 \stoptext

 and process this via texexec --pdf to get a PDF file.
 I tried to convert the resulting PDF file via gswin32c to png
 but the resulting PNG output is not so good.

Are you using the current version of gs?  There have been changes
to the font rendering over the years, so you want to try a current
version.

A quick way to get a second opinion is to install the emacs+auctex
bundle for Win32 to see how you like the preview images.

What does not so good mean -- there are lots of parameters to
adjust anti-aliasing, color models, and resolution with gs, but I'm not sure
about things like gamma.  ImageMagick's convert may provide an
easier interface.  If you are using pk fonts you may encounter problems
if the fonts resolution isn't compatible with the output resolution.

 Then I read dvipng could do the job, which means I have to produce dvi
 output via texexec --dvi but than I get complaints from dvips that it
 cannot find the file tex.pro for the specials. However a png file is
 produced.

 Help appreciated

In the long run, using pdf  has the advantage that the tools are supported
by a much wider community than the small set of people who have heard of
.dvi format.  The number of people who would be affected by a problem in
gs rendering is orders of magnitude larger than the number who would
notice a problem with dvipng.  The latter group can always switch to pdf and
gs, while the former group doesn't have viable alternatives.   As a  result,
assuming the problem is not related to TeX-specific font formats, it is very
likely that gs can do what you need today and that future version on future
platforms will also work.

If you are still having problems, provide a minimal example (.tex
source and .png
image) along with the software versions so others can try to reproduce
the problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] PNG output

2007-07-12 Thread George N. White III
On 7/12/07, zs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try this:

 gs -sDEVICE=png16m -r200 -sOutputFile=formula.png -dBATCH -q -dNOPAUSE
 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4\ -dMaxBitmap=5000
 formula.pdf

 You may play with -r parameter.
 You can also make a big picture and downsize it with proper
 interpolation.

These incantations come from ghostscript's Use.htm document..  If
you don't need
color, you can try -sDEVICE=pnggray.  Note that this uses
anti-aliasing, which
looks better on a screen but may cause problems on typical
laserprinters (some may
refuse to print, others will try to render the grays by dithering).

 On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:28:32 +0200 (CEST)
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  I want to convert my standalone formulas to PNG to display these
  formulas on my website.
 
  What I am doing is the following
 
  \starttext
  \startTEXpage
  \startformula
  e^{i x} = \cos x + i \sin x
  \stopformula
  \stopTEXpage
  \stoptext
 
  and process this via texexec --pdf to get a PDF file.
  I tried to convert the resulting PDF file via gswin32c to png
  but the resulting PNG output is not so good.
 
  Then I read dvipng could do the job, which means I have to produce dvi
  output via texexec --dvi but than I get complaints from dvips that it
  cannot find the file tex.pro for the specials. However a png file is
  produced.
 
  Help appreciated
 
  TIA
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Re: [NTG-context] texexec+mpost cmr10 vs CMR10 trouble using dvips backend

2007-04-16 Thread George N. White III
On 4/16/07, Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  can also try to create the pd file by hand with dvips -Ppdf test,
  that gave a correct output on my system.

 Thanks, that works.  I guess -Ppdf tells it to use map files that find
 the type1 fonts, so cmr in the metapost figures is replaced by the
 lmodern .pfb.  Oh, that's not what happens: it instead finds the
 cmr10.pfb and includes it correctly.  So the final document uses
 lmodern for the page number (from the ConTeXt src file) and cmr10 for
 the 'hello' from the metapost figure.

This is a hint that the underlying problem is related to map files.  With the
lm-rep maps the cm hello should become lmodern.

 Though I'm a bit scared of -Ppdf from years ago when I think it caused
 encoding problems.  A few characters didn't show up correctly in the
 pdf file, but only when using non-cmr fonts.

I think that was fixed long ago, but I rarely use .dvi anymore.

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Re: [NTG-context] texexec+mpost cmr10 vs CMR10 trouble using dvips backend

2007-04-15 Thread George N. White III
On 4/15/07, Sanjoy Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If you set prologues := 1 in the mp file, that should help.

 That still gave Courier fonts after including fig.1 in test.ps.

  In a new metapost (texlive2007) you can even generate an
  image with the font included by using prologues := 3.

 That worked.  [I'm using MetaPost 0.993 (Web2C 7.5.6) from the Debian
 texlive2007-2 packages.]

 From p.24 of the corresponding mpman.pdf manual:

It is worth noting that the default value prologues:=0 is
sufficient for graphics included in TEX-based documents.

 Does that need a slight exception added to it?  Or have I
 misconfigured something in the toolchain from .tex + .mp to .ps?  By
 the way, the figure works fine with prologues := 0 if I include it
 (using epsf.tex) in a plain-TeX document.

Your ConTeXt example is using the default latin modern fonts.  The reason
the mpost files work with plain TeX is that the cm fonts are being
used by plain tex, so
the fonts are already defined in the .ps file when the font commands
in the figure file
are found.

 So I think there's something slightly off about what ConTeXt is doing.

On my systems I have modified the map files to use the lm-rep map
files (so cm fonts are replaced by lm fonts).  Your example works for
me with TL2007 on FC5 in both plain tex and context.  In context, I
see:

TeXUtil | tuo file saved
This is dvips(k) 5.96 Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2007.04.15:1332' - t.ps
tex.prolm-ec.enclm-rep-cmrm.encfinclude.protexps.prospecial.pro.
lmr10.pfblmr12.pfb[1./fig.1]
TeXExec | runtime: 6.214806

The resulting .ps file has:

%%BeginFont: CMR10
%!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: LMRoman10-Regular 1.010

while for plain tex (using dvips -P pdf ...):
This is dvips(k) 5.96 Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2007.04.15:1327' - pt.ps
tex.proalt-rule.prolm-rep-cmrm.encfinclude.protexps.pro
special.pro. lmr10.pfb[1fig.1]

For debian, the procedure for changing updmap.cnf has been debianized,
but it is mentioned in the README for the lmodern package (watch out
for a typo in the example entry:  test -- text).   If you do
this, you might want to include the following:

$ cat lm-subset-ams.map
# AMS fonts not provided by lm-rep
# needed with the lm-rep maps to avoid duplicate entries from the ams maps
# msbm
msbm5 MSBM5 msbm5.pfb
msbm6 MSBM7 msbm7.pfb
msbm7 MSBM7 msbm7.pfb
msbm8 MSBM7 msbm7.pfb
msbm9 MSBM10 msbm10.pfb
msbm10 MSBM10 msbm10.pfb

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, ect was Re: OpenType in Windows

2007-04-05 Thread George N. White III
On 4/5/07, Andrea Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm a bit confused. Still can't have a clear frame of -TeX stuff.

 What does this exactly mean (from wikipedia)?


 XeTeX works well with both LaTeX and ConTeXt.

In the beginning there was tex, a program.  I know people who create
documents using low-level tex markup, but most people rely on a macro
package to define high-level markup. In the early days, tex was often
used with a simple macro package called plain.  Then, for people
with nice minicomputers, Lamport wrote a macro package called LaTeX,
which was used with the same tex program and remains popular today.
ConTeXt includes yet another
macro package, but is really a system with lots of useful tools.

Along with the tex program, there was a system to create fonts, but
meanwhile other font fomats have become widely adopted, and people
have found ways to use these commercial
fonts and formats with tex, but for the most part, fonts used with tex
are separate from the system fonts and configuring a new font for use
with tex is not a simple process.

These days people rarely use the (current version of) the original tex
program because we have pdftex, which can be used to format documents
using the plain or latex or context macros to create .pdf directly as
well as .dvi files, and xetex, which can also be used with the same
list of macro packages to create .pdf or .xdv (replacement for .dvi).
The main advantage of xetex is that it supports system fonts directly.
 It is, however, new, so there could be glitches.

http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=latex has lots of
useful information

The xetex web site has examples and a FAQ.

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Re: [NTG-context] OpenType in Windows

2007-04-04 Thread George N. White III
On 4/4/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I heard that Mac users can typeset in ConTeXt with OpenType fonts. Is
 it possible on Windows platform? (either in MiKTeX or TeXLive?)

This uses xetex.  It works for sure if you count running the linux
version of TeX Live 2007 in a virtual machine, and very likely will
work in native Win32, but I haven't tried it.   Note that maths still
uses the conventional math fonts (e.g., Type 1).

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Re: [NTG-context] pdfetex 1.40.1 + ghosscript problem? More findings

2007-01-20 Thread George N. White III
On 1/20/07, Michal Kvasnicka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good evening.

 I found some more puzzling things. I write them here fore anybody who
 may be interested. :-)

 I tried to typeset a document using two font families: TrueType Gentium
 by SIL, and Adobe OpenType Myriad. First I converted Myriad to Type1
 using fontforge, then I prepared metrics for all fonts with TeXFont
 using ec-lm encoding. I found this:

 (1) Any ConTeXt document produced by pdfetex 1.40.1 (even this one:
 \setupoutput[pdf]
 \starttext
 \input tufte
 \stoptext
 makes my GhostScript (gs Ghostscript 8.15.3 under SuSE Linux 10.1) die
 with this error:
 Warning:  An error occurred while reading an XREF table.
 The file has been damaged.  This may have been caused
 by a problem while converting or transfering the file.
 Ghostscript will attempt to recover the data.
ERROR: /undefined in /BXlevel
 etc.

There was a gs bug (#688787 /undefined in /BXlevel) for this error,
but in that case the pdf file really was corrupt although the user
said it worked with Adobe Reader.

I tried your first test on Fedora Core 5 with TL2007 (test inst iso
from 20070115) which also has a gs-8.15 version, and don't get an
error.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] TL2007]$ cat cont-try.tex
\setupoutput[pdf]
\starttext
\input tufte
\stoptext
[EMAIL PROTECTED] TL2007]$ texmfstart texexec cont-try
[...]
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.1 (Web2C 7.5.6)
 \write18 enabled.
 %-line parsing enabled.
 (/mnt/hdb/opt/tex/texlive/2005/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./cont-try.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.08.08 21:51  fmt: 2007.1.14  int: english  mes: english
[...]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] TL2007]$ pdffonts cont-try.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID
  --- --- --- -
ORKXYQ+LMRoman12-Regular Type 1   yes yes yes  5  0

[EMAIL PROTECTED] TL2007]$ pdfinfo cont-try.pdf
Title:  cont-try
Subject:
Keywords:
Author:
Creator:ConTeXt - 2006.08.08 21:51
Producer:   pdfTeX-1.40.1
CreationDate:   Sat Jan 20 15:29:21 2007
ModDate:20070120
Tagged: no
Pages:  1
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4)
File size:  26205 bytes
Optimized:  no
PDF version:1.5

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt output commercial printing houses: Thanks!

2004-07-27 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, Brooks Moses wrote:
At 11:15 PM 7/26/2004, you wrote:
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:21:39PM -0500, Bill McClain wrote:
- Also, I don't know whether it is possible to downsample images in
PDF's that you generate from ConTeXt. If it is, avoid it.
That raises an important question: if downsampling is done, is it
obvious what ConTeXt commands cause it to happen?
There's, to my knowledge, no engine in pdfTeX for downsampling images; there 
certainly be one coded in ConTeXt.  Thus, I'd be fairly confident in 
guessing that it is indeed, fairly obvious, on grounds that there are no 
commands which do that.
As a general principle, it makes no sense for pdftex to provide image
manipulation capabilities.  Such capabilities are useful to a much wider 
audience than the users of pdftex, so there are lots of tools to do
image resampling and format conversions.  All that pdftex should do is
support inclusion of pdf.  The limited support for including png images
is a convenience, but if you are being careful you would want to make
pdf images.

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Re: [NTG-context] Arabic-utf-8 (plus a sample)

2004-06-06 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
Hi gang,
For Arabic we use a Latin transcription in Aleph/(e-)Omega (or even ArabTeX) 
unless one of the encoding filters like utf-8 is used. Even for utf-8 files, 
however, it would be very useful to be able to convert a utf-8 file to Latin 
transcription for further processing by Aleph/(e-)Omega. For example, adding 
diacritics is much easier to do in Latin than in an Arabic script editor 
because Latin transcription is one-dimensional and adding diacritics to 
Arabic is a 2-dimen affair.

The best thing would be a perl script but I don't know perl at all (except to 
run some some precreated scripts). If someone out of the kindness of their 
heart could write a short and simple script for just seven characters I could 
do the rest myself and present it back here.
Can you use (or extend) GNU recode?  It does include support for
utf-8 and several TeX encodings.
From the manual: It is easy for a programmer to add a new charset to 
`recode'.  All it requires is making a few functions kept in a single `.c' 
file, adjusting `Makefile.am' and remaking `recode'.

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Re: [NTG-context] %%BoundingBox: (atend)

2004-06-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004, Hans Hagen wrote:
At 14:24 30/05/2004, you wrote:
Hello,
ConTeXt does not find the EPS-BoundingBox in EPS files generated by 
xmgrace.
Such a file begins like this:

%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
%%BoundingBox: (atend)
[...]
If not, I'm going to write a script, that converts the file.
if you have a small demo file i can add that feature to texutil
I'd suggest adopting some of the conventions used by the
LaTeX2e graphics bundle, in particular, to look for the 
BoundingBox in filename.(e)ps.bb.

Rather than making texutil more complex a separate tool (findbb, attached)
that reliably writes the bbox by trying several methods, even using the 
ghostscript bbox device to generate one (e.g., in the case of files 
created with dvips -E that get incorrect BoundingBox entries because the 
dvips calculation ignores things drawn by \specials).

Try findbb xmgracefile.ps  xmgracefile.ps.bb
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# findbb -- write PostScript BoundingBox to stdout

# Notes:

# 0. The '-b' flag can be used with .pdf files.

# 1. (e)ps files may contain binary preview images and may
#use non-native newlines, so must be handled as binary.  
#Our approach is to grab the first 5000 bytes
#of the file, then convert \012 and \015 to \012 for
#processing with tools intended for use with text files.

# 2. if the file does not provide a BoundingBox line, use
#the GhostScript bbox device (-b flag) to generate one.

# 3. if the first entry is %%BoundingBox: (atend), examine
#the last 5000 bytes of the file

# Bugs:
#Does not normalize the line by adding a space after the ':'
#Does not handle large preview images

# Author: George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# 

pgm=$(basename $0)
usage=usage: $pgm [-b] filename

TMPDIR=${TMPDIR:-/usr/tmp}
GS_PROG=${GS_PROG:-gsc} 

tempnm=$(mktemp $TMPDIR/$pgm-temp.XX ) || exit 1
pipenm=$(mktemp $TMPDIR/$pgm-pipe.XX ) || exit 1
/sbin/rm -f $pipenm  /sbin/mknod $pipenm p

trap rm -f $tempnm $pipenm ; exit \$rc 0

flags=
case $# in
2) case $1 in
   -b) flags=b$flags ; shift
   ;;
*) print -u2 $usage ; exit 1
   ;;
esac
;;
1)  ;;
*)  print -u2 $usage ; exit 1
;;
esac

# can we read the file?
if [ -r $1 ] ; then
fnm=$1
else
print -u2 $pgm: unable to read file $1.
exit 1
fi

case $flags in
*b*) $GS_PROG -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=bbox $fnm  $tempnm 21 
 set $(grep --max-count=1 '^%%BoundingBox:' $tempnm ) || exit 1
 ;;
*)   set $(head --bytes=5000 $fnm | tr '[\012\015]' '\012' | grep --max-count=1 
'^%%BoundingBox:') || exit 1
 ;;
esac

case $# in
1|2) # handle '^%%BoundingBox:(atend)' and '^%%BoundingBox: (atend)'
   case $1$2 in
   %%BoundingBox:\(atend\)) print -u2 $pgm -- looking 'atend'
   bbox=$(tail --bytes=5000 $fnm | tr '[\012\015]' '\012' \
| grep '^%%BoundingBox:'|tail -1)
   ;;
   *)
   print -u2 $pgm failed to find BoundingBox ; exit 1
   ;;
   esac
   ;;
4|5) # handle BoundingBox:NN ... and BoundingBox: NN ...
   case $1$2 in
   %%BoundingBox:*)   bbox=$@
   ;;
   *)
   ;;
   esac
   ;;
*) print -u2 $pgm failed to find BoundingBox, try setting '-b' flag. ; exit 1
   
esac
print $bbox


Re: [NTG-context] TaBle example fails

2004-03-31 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Christopher G D Tipper wrote:

 I am learning the TaBle package and I get the following from a verbatim
 example from the manual.

ConTeXt uses heavily modified macros.  There is \ObeyTableBarAndQuote,
but you still need to use the ConTeXt versions of the macros.  See
core-tab.tex.

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Re: [NTG-context] TaBlE Issues

2004-03-02 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004, Nikolai Weibull wrote:

 * George N. White III [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 01, 2004 18:30]:
  You need the printed manual for the TaBlE package, which will
  suggest something alone the lines:

 Hm, and this manual has to be ordered?  No downloads?

Yes, AFAIK:

http://www.pctex.com/additional.html#tablemacro

  \starttable[|l|lp(120pt)|]
  \NC Something \NC Long description ... \input tufte \NC\AR
  \stoptable

 Great.  One problem however, what if you wan't all space not consumed by
 the previous columns?  Too much to ask?

Too much to ask me.

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Re: [NTG-context] live ConTeXt

2004-02-17 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Piotr Kopszak wrote:

 As there are  plenty of live linux distributions on  CDs I was wondering
 if there is  one that includes ConTeXt. It  should be relatively easy
 to make one based on KNOPPIX (my computer is too weak though). Please,
 let me know if you find one.

ConTeXt often needs little fixes, so a simple way to install updates and
generate new efmt files is needed.  Thus it isn't really practical to
rely entirely on a CD-based distro, and in any case, you need something
other than ram to write the output files.  You will do better to stick
with a robust distro like knoppix and find a way to use ConTeXt.

XP users can have texmf trees in their hard disk user data area that
knoppix can read, but writing to NTFS seems a bit dodgy.
Knoppix does, however, include everything you need to create user
accounts with specific UID/GID and mount NFS directories, so if you
can arrange a suitable NFS server, everything can live there.  All
this can be done using knoppix.sh to start the necesary services
and unpack a new home directory from a user.tbz file.  You will need
to save a configs.tbz after adding the required group and user passwd
entry (vigp, adduser, vipw, etc) and creating an fstab entry
for the nfs mount.

Here is the relevant section from a tweaked knoppix.sh:

echo Starting daemons...
for i in  ifupdown networking portmap nfs-common sysklogd ; do
[ -x /etc/init.d/$i ]  /etc/init.d/$i start; done
[ -d $1 ]  CONFIGS=$1/TEXUSER.tbz
[ -f $CONFIGS ] || CONFIGS=/mnt/floppy/TEXUSER.tbz
if [ -f $CONFIGS ]; then
echo ^[[1mExtracting config archive $CONFIGS...^[[0m
tar -jpPxf $CONFIGS ; chown -R UID.GID /home/TEXUSER
fi
mkdir /mnt/NFS_SERVER  mount /mnt/NFS_SERVER

The usual config.tbz file will provide modified fstab, group, passwd, etc.
files.  The TEXUSER.tgz file can provide scripts to add TeX to the
user's PATH, etc.  Use su TEXUSER to become the new user.

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Re: [NTG-context] Install again

2003-12-31 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, John Culleton wrote:

 I installed a fresh TeX installation form the TeXLive
 installation disk. I did the usual things, like convert
 Texexec.rme to texexec.ini, move texexec.pl to /usr/TeX/bin/
 i386-linux/texexec, run fmtutil and texexex -make --all en nl
 metafun and the rest. I ran fmtutil --all and texhash.

I have done the essentially same for SGI Irix and linux (at home), and
also installed pdftex-1.11b from source and a newer cont-all.zip.  I do
keep my existing texmf-local/context/config/texexe.ini.  I can't reproduce
the problem on Irix using acroread 4.

 Bottom line programs that compile clean and operate properly
 under my old installation (still available) don't do so under
 the new installation. For example the sample program d-en-all
 will compile without errors but the interaction is kaput and
 nothing shows up in the TOC. The exact same files in the exact
 same directory will however work when I boot up my old
 partition.

 I did a diff on the two log files and here is what it shows:
 1c1
  This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
 (format=cont-en 2003.12.30)  30 DEC 2003 15:31
 ---
  This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11a-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2)
 (format=cont-en 2003.10.15)  30 DEC 2003 14:34

d-en-all works here (except for the missing graphics):

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.11b-2.1 (Web2C 7.5.2) (format=cont-en
2003.10.14)  31 DEC 2003 08:11

 3a4
   (/usr/TeX/texmf/web2c/cp8bit.tcx)
 7c8
  ConTeXt  ver: 2003.12.18  fmt: 2003.12.30  int: english  mes:
 english
 ---
  ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.25  fmt: 2003.10.15  int: english  mes:
 english

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.9.26  fmt: 2003.10.14  int: english  mes: english

Thinking the problem might be with the 2003.12.18 version of ConTeXt,
I installed http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/cont-tmf.zip and rebuilt the
formats:

ConTeXt  ver: 2003.12.18  fmt: 2003.12.31  int: english  mes: english

I also checked the default texexec.ini:

$ mv  ./context/config/texexec.rme  ./context/config/texexec.ini
$ texhash .
texhash: Updating /user/gwhite/texmf/./ls-R...
texhash: Done.

The next step would be to compare texexec --verbose for the two
configurations, and also the contents of the .tuo and .tui files.

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Re: [NTG-context] Perl scripts almost unusable under Win32 MiKTeX

2003-12-24 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Recent ConTeXt updates have rendered some Perl scripts
 (texshow.pl  modules) unusable under MiKTeX because they
 heavily rely on web2c methods to find binaries and
 complementary files.

And probably under fptex (e.g., TeX Live 2003) if you have spaces in paths
(I tried to eliminate spaces in paths when I ran into problems, so I don't
know if the subsequent changes have fixed this).

Fptex caches the kpathsea lists in shared memory, which is a big
performance boost for slower machines on fat32 (but also comes with some
caveates -- RTFM).  The recent (Dec. 18th??) updates to fptex seem at long
last to work properly on Win9x, Win2k, and WinXP.  The TeX Live 2003 page
has a link to the fptex update page, but the URL for the updates seems to
have died with the recent prohibition against symbolic links, so you will
want to edit the properties for Maintenance/Add packages to change the
command line to use you favorite CTAN mirror, e.g.,:

C:\texLive\bin\Win32\TeXSetup.exe --add-package --remote-source-directory
ftp://ctan.cms.math.ca/tex-archive/systems/win32/fptex/0.7/.

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Re: [NTG-context] Update failure: I'm losing my mind

2003-12-12 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Gary Pajer wrote:

 C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Pajer\My Documentstexexec --verbose

  TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003

   current path : C:/Documents and Settings/Gary Pajer/My Documents
  locating ini file : not found by kpsewhich
  locating ini file : not found by searching
  locating ini file : no environment variable set
  locating ini file : not found in own path
warning : texexec.ini not found, did you read 'texexec.rme'?

 It's really not finding it.  The thing that surprises me is that no-one else
 has mentioned this.  That's why I keep thinking that I've done something
 wrong.

Maybe trying to run ConTeXt with MikTeX instead of using TeX Live 2003,
or trying to run ConTeXt in a Win32 configuration that puts spaces in
the paths?

We are running ConTeXt under TL2003 (with a newer cont-tmf.zip and pdftex
1.11b) on SGI Irix because the Win32 PC's I tried did not survive the
experience.  At home I find TL2003 (same updates) works well on linux. The
unix systems don't let spaces into paths (and did fail in pre-release
testing if I tried to run in a directory like a b).

I reported the above problem with the TL2003 pre-release tests.  Using the
current cont-tmf.zip gets you a TeXExec 4.0 that seems more robust, but
that could be because I also abandoned a configuration that puts spaces in
the paths (e.g., install to C:\TeXLive and set HOME=C:\Home).

One system (Win98) had problems with forward slashes in the argument to
perl's backtick, but then the hard disk failed and I've been waiting since
Sept. for the warranty replacement to arrive.  TeX Live 2003 texexec seems
to be hard on PC's -- maybe because when kpathsea fails texexec.pl
recursively searches the drive for the ini file.  In any case, after the
1st PC died I tried to install TL2003 on another machine which also failed
(terminal overheating) while creating formats after installing the fpTeX
updates.  Maybe cheap PC clones can't tolerate ls-R too many times in a
short time period.

btw -- before the machine died I did notice that the new version of fpTeX
has a 1.11b pdftex.

I've been asked to put TL2003 on a ThinkPad running XP -- hope it survives
the experience!

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Re: [NTG-context] Permission denied

2003-11-20 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Idris S Hamid wrote:

 Thnx Ed and Giuseppe 4 your help  direction.

 Question: When backing up to cd is there any way to maintain
 write-permission upon retransfer to hard disk? I use Nero for back-up.
 This is getting off-topic I know...

I assume you use Win32.  Create an archive (.zip) or use a backup utility.
I use Norton/Symantec ghost, which can make an image of a disk partition
onto a set of CD's, a different drive/partition, or via network on another
machine's local disk.  There is a utility like windows explorer to view
the contents of an image fileset and copy out individual files.

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[NTG-context] Re: TeX Live 2003 miseries.

2003-10-16 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:

 At 01:11 15/10/2003, you wrote:

 1.  the perl scripts were confused by the embedded spaces in the default
 c:\Program Files\.. install path.  In general, ConTeXt does not play
 well for paths that have embedded spaces.

 http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/mswintex (just runsetuptex,bat in the
 path where it is)
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/linuxtex (run setuptex and generate formats)

 is the minimum that you need for context. For windows the trick is in using
 irun in the right way, i.e. either use a full path spec or something
 relative like ../../whatever (which is what i've done there); i didn't test
 it for program files

The other place where spaces cause problems is in the user's HOME
directory.  TeXLive looks in %HOME%/texmf, and texexec creates a
texfilename.tmp with a reference to %HOME%. On my brief foray into WinXP
the default HOME location had a space.  We are expecting a bunch of
Win9x users (currently with 4allTeX) to be converted to WinXP using
a departmental standard configuration, and I need a full TeX that will
play nicely with that (I did suggest that our users would be better
off running linux in vmware).

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Re: [NTG-context] TeX Live 2003 miseries.

2003-10-14 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, John Culleton wrote:

 I installed the latest version of TeXLive 2003 (the so-called demo
 version) and did the fmtutil and texhash bit.  When I ran a job for a
 customer, texexec hung up at the point where a graphic was being
 loaded. So I went back to last year's texlive in a terrible hurry.
 That worked fine.

What platform?  I tried to install various rc's on Win98 and ran into
numerous problems:

1.  the perl scripts were confused by the embedded spaces in the default
c:\Program Files\.. install path.  In general, ConTeXt does not play
well for paths that have embedded spaces.

2.  the perl scripts search the PATH directories and supply a the full
pathname of programs (e.g., /texLive/bin/Win32/kpsewhich.exe) to perl's
backtick.  This failed when running texexec.exe in a command.com window,
Replaceing the / with \ helps, but there were too many places to fix
in the time available, and meanwhile the disk on the system I was
borrowing died (due, I am quite sure, to overextertion caused by the
direct searching of the texmf trees for texexec.ini when kpsewhich failed
to run).

On Mandrake linux 9.0 and SGI Irix 6.5 TeXLive 2003 (full install) works
fine (using the current cont-tmf.zip which is a few days newer than the
version in TeXLive 2003).  The perl scripts have not changed.

 Earlier, when TeXLive 2003 was still in beta they left out texexec
 altogether.

On unix they just forgot to make some symlinks, the perl scripts were
there.  On Win32, I used Active State perl.exe to run the scripts.

 Has anyone else tried Context using graphics on TeXLive 2003? I hate
 to report a bug to Tug if my experience is unique. OTOH if the iso
 image is defective in some way I do need to let someone know pronto.

I'm not sure about the demo image.  If you are using Win32, does
texexec.exe find texexec.ini using kpsewhich?

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: texfont and type-tmf.dat

2003-10-14 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Nigel King wrote:

  Why do you whish to reinstall all the supplied fonts? Or do you just
  want to learn how to use texfont?
 I simply wish to use the fonts as most others do (I think) and I am unable
 to because of this bug. The normal context fonts do not exist on Gerben's
 version. Before Gerben's reorganisation they were made by texfont, this now
 does not work because of what I believe to be a simple (I do not understand
 Perl otherwise I would have a go at fixing it) bug in texfont. Maybe I am
 wrong but I am beginning to find this extremely frustrating (7 months). Once
 I realised that somebody was working on texfont 1.8 I had hoped for a fix.

On all the systems I use, (linux, SGI Irix, Win32 with texLive) you have
to run texfont to generate tfm's, vf's and map files for fonts other than
CM.

The last time I tried to run texfont (from the final TeX Live 2003 inst
iso), it tried to use a lower-cased version of the install path, e.g.,
/opt/texline instead of /opt/texLive.

 If no developer/Perl expert has Gerbens version of tetex perhaps I could
 help debug if a version was supplied to me that printed out the full path
 that texfont was looking for files in. The --fontroot option or kpsewhich
 lookup appears to be at fault but I have no debugging facilities.

 Any suggestions (other than giving up) gratefully received.

You will have to learn a tiny bit of perl (which is easier than
learning TeX).

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Re: [NTG-context] RME and INI

2003-10-06 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Pawel Jackowski na Onet wrote:

 Hi all!

 TEXEXEC documentation and self documented 'texexec.rme' file says that it
 should be copied to 'texexec.ini'. First of all; I have two 'texexec.rme' in
 TeX tree; first in

 ...TeX/context/config

 the second in

 ...TeX/context/perltk

 Files looks to be identical but and the second location has a priority. But
 which location is more convenient for texexec config file?

You should put 'texexec.ini' in a local tree, e.g., texmf-local, so it
is easy to find when you upgrade, e.g., texmf-local/context/config

 The second question is WHY I have to copy 'texexec.rme' to 'texexec.ini'? If
 I do so and change some settings in 'texexec.ini' and than run
 'texexec --verbose', I can see that settings are still taken from
 'texexec.rme'. Could You tell me what is the point in copying RME to INI and
 when INI file is used instead RME?

Did you run mktexlsr?  What do you get from: 'kpsewhich -progname=context
-format=other text files texexec.ini'?

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Re: [NTG-context] texshow (was: keywords)

2003-10-04 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, 4 Oct 2003, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

 OK, use only with X11.

 So I started X11 and entered texshow in xterm:
 Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains: 
 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/ /System/Library/Perl/darwin 
 /System/Library/Perl /Library/Perl/darwin /Library/Perl /Network/Library/Perl/darwin 
 /Network/Library/Perl .) at 
 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk//cont_set.pm line 59.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk//cont_set.pm line 59.
 Compilation failed in require at 
 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/texshow.pl line 57.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at 
 /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/perltk/texshow.pl line 57.

 Does anybody has an advice on how to use actually texshow?

Tk.pm is a perl module.  It was missing on SGI Irix too.  Perl has a
tools to automate the installation of modules, but you may need some
libraries as well (Tk/Tcl, compression, etc.) which can either be
installed under Perl or for use with other applications.  You will
need the developer tools if you build the module from sources.

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[NTG-context] Re: Re: problems with embedded spaces in file paths (Win32)

2003-09-18 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Mari Voipio wrote:

 It does not seem to bother TeXLive ConTeXt that the .tex files are in a
 path with couple of spaces (like c:\Documents and Settings\Mari\My
 Documents\ConTeXt\test.tex) as long as TeXLive itself is installed
 somewhere without spaces.

This morning I uninstalled the Sept. 5 rc and installed today's (Sept. 18)
rc in C:\TeXLive on a Win98 system with HOME=c:\home to avoid all cases
where spaces get into file paths.  Again, kpathsea run via the command
line found my texexec.ini, but the irun generated texexec.exe failed to
find it.  This time I modified sub found_ini_file in texexec.pl to
replace the / with \ in $kpsewhich.  This is rather odd, as in most
cases not involving a command line you can use / in file paths.  There
are probably other places were backtick is used that will require the same
change, and they are only to be used for $dosish systems.

It is past my bedtime, so I'll have to cut this short.  Weather
permitting, I'll be out of the office until October, but I'll try to post
some reasonable patches at the earliest opportunity.

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