Re: [NTG-context] context meeting
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I really enjoyed myself at last weeks's meeting. Mojca and friends have done a great job. In addition to a filled up program we had a wonderful day going around Slovenia (incredibly silent outside the facilities and a sky full of stars, something impossible in nl), terrific bonfires, This ConTeXt meeting has been for me a really wonderful chance to get back in the loop of the TeX world in general and the ConTeXt world in particular. My most grateful thanks go to the organizers (and the participants!) for the the wonderful week spent in Slovenia. I probably forget a few things You mean, like, git? 8-D -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV
Friday, August 10, 2007 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work on most modern installations. Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations. Oh right, env. Well, it works on my system even with env, but I know, I'm just lucky :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [ot] \relax
Friday, August 10, 2007 luigi scarso wrote: Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07). Mum and baby are allright, daddy a bit blurred, as the photo says . Congratulazioni! :) Ora comincia il bello ... Congratulations! :) Now the fun starts ... -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also, as part of my ?getting back into the loop?, do you think there's some where/some how I can give a hand? well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ... Ah, this is something I can more probably involve my university with. While my advisor doesn't care much about TeX per se, numerical things are much more of its taste. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime, choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it would have been a useful addition. this will become configurable in luatex Ah, good to know. (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see that the project has been taken over when I disappeared without a trace :P) well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -) Yeah, I got that impression :) also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff) This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also, as part of my getting back into the loop, do you think there's some where/some how I can give a hand? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Hello all,
here's a test document:
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\newbox\testbox
\starttext
\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}
\box\testbox
\page
\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}
\box\testbox
\stoptext
As you may notice, items think the placefigure refers to all
of them, so that if a particular item is bigger than the
figure height, it will wrap correctly around the
(inexistent) box, otherwise it will just side it.
Interesting, the same thing does *not* happen when not going
through a box, but typesetting things directly in the page.
However, for my application I need to typeset the sidefloat
and the itemization in a box, so I hit the bug ...
Suggestions?
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Re: [NTG-context] Linetable height (actually, depth) bug
Sunday, July 29, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Hello all, as I mentioned in the 'framing a linetable' thread, there is a bug in the stable (march '07) version of ConTeXt concerning the linetable *depth*. Example file: \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \setuplinetable[r][2][height=30pt,background=color,backgroundcolor=blue] \startlinetable \BR \BC one \EC \BC two \EC \ER \BR \BC three \EC \BC four \EC \ER \stoplinetable more text \stoptext more text will appear in the blue area of the second line, instead of after the linetable, because the depth of the table lines are smashed to be one strutdepth in \flushlinetableparts can you test with the version from the beta if this problem is still there? I just tried with ConTeXt ver: 2007.07.29 22:06 MKII fmt: 2007.7.31 int: english/english and I get the same problem. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\usemodule[streams]
\definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]
\newbox\giuseppe
\starttext
\startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
\placefigure
[outer,none,fit]
{}
{\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
\stopstreamlayer
\vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}
\stoptext
Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
wouldn't do it ...
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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism. \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided] \usemodule[streams] \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth] I've noticed that specifying width= in the streamlayer definition is not enough to force the stream width. If the width is different from the textwidth, I have to use something like \startsetups streamlayer:giuseppe:settings \overloadtextwidth\gbwidth \stopsetups I would have expected \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\gbwidth] to handle this automatically though. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course, I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox wouldn't do it ... sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box; Makes sense. streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that kind of stuff You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime, choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it would have been a useful addition. (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see that the project has been taken over when I disappeared without a trace :P) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Non-printing macro disturbs line justification.
Saturday, July 28, 2007 John R. Culleton wrote:
I did a big project in Context and becuse I wanted to use the special
features of eplain's interface to makeindex I wrote my own indexing
macro. Every place I inserted a call to this macro extra space
appeared at that point. Here is my macro:
\def\sidx#1{\write\ind{\\indexentry{#1}{\the\pageno}}}
I had to retreat to the regular Context indexing tag. Can someone
spot the flaw in my definition?
Don't know if it's significant, but what if you use \slash
instead of \\ ?
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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?
Saturday, July 28, 2007 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Are you maybe looking for p. 254 of cont-eni.pdf? Oh yes! top and bottom. Thanks a lot! -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?
Saturday, July 28, 2007 Patrick Gundlach wrote:
Hi Giuseppe,
the location= of the inner frame as desired. Am I missing
something obvious?
I don't think so, this was an example from Hans:
\framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=hanging]{location\\equals\\hanging}
\framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=depth] {location\\equals\\depth}
\framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=height] {location\\equals\\height}
B}
[snip]
Yeah, this is what I was thinking too. But as Thomas pointed
out, top and bottom can be used to tune the internal
vertical alignment.
PS: welcome back!
Thanks :)
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Re: [NTG-context] Framing a linetable?
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Hello all, is it possible to put a frame around a linetable? you mean the whole table? probably a matter of hooks; linetables work page-wise which may complicate things a bit so it has to be applied piecewise I've been experimenting with this a little. Putting the whole linetable inside a frame doesn't work because of the \nointerlinelineskip in \ifdim\topskipgap=\zeropoint\else¶ \verticalstrut\nobreak\kern-\struttotal\kern-\parskip\nobreak\nointerlineskip % fix topskip¶ \fi¶ in \flushlinetableparts -- if I comment out this section of the code, the table gets placed, but the frame is somewhat short. This is in fact a bug in linetables which I noticed before, even though it didn't affect me until recently: if the last line in a table is a \vtop (\linetablemode is 0) with more than one line of text, the flattening of its depth in \flushlinetableparts \dp\tablebox\linetablepart\strutdepth causes the text after the table to appear *in* the table itself. So I commented out the depth smashing, and the frame now has the correct size. There is one more thing missing, though, and it's the fact that the table is typeset halfway to the right of the frame, as if a large indentation was placed before each line. If I manage to squeeze out this last bug, I can frame the table automatically which will be a great advantage for me. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Linetable height (actually, depth) bug
Hello all, as I mentioned in the 'framing a linetable' thread, there is a bug in the stable (march '07) version of ConTeXt concerning the linetable *depth*. Example file: \setupcolors[state=start] \starttext \setuplinetable[r][2][height=30pt,background=color,backgroundcolor=blue] \startlinetable \BR \BC one \EC \BC two \EC \ER \BR \BC three \EC \BC four \EC \ER \stoplinetable more text \stoptext more text will appear in the blue area of the second line, instead of after the linetable, because the depth of the table lines are smashed to be one strutdepth in \flushlinetableparts -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?
Hello all, how do I tell ConTeXt that I want the frame content to be top, bottom or middle aligned? I found no way to specify *vertical* alignment except by nesting frames and specifying the location= of the inner frame as desired. Am I missing something obvious? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
Monday, July 23, 2007 luigi scarso wrote:
the fit assumes operating on a page not in a box; an alternative is:
\framed[width=5cm,height4cm]
{\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=4cm,maxheight=5cm,width=10cm]}
i.e. setting the maximum values
hmm,
\frame can be slow.
Maybe something like \vbox to4cm{\hsize=5cm ..} ?
Well, I'm already in a frame so it's not a problem.
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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheader: leftstyle rightstyle
Sunday, July 22, 2007 Mojca Miklavec wrote: However, there seems to be a little bug. This works perfectly well for section (\getmarking[section]), but for chapter the chapter labels seem to be erased after the first appearance. Do you have a \page[even] in between? I've found that the markings of the last section get cleared when an empty page is inserted. See also my thread Section marking forgotten on next even page? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
Sunday, July 22, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
the fit assumes operating on a page not in a box;
Ah, didn't know that. I couldn't even tell from the sources,
since it uses enclosing box dimensions and not page or paper
sizes. I suspect the logic is broken at the page level too
though, let me explain why.
Currently, if I understand the code correctly, factor=fit
expands the figure to have its major direction fit, while
factor=max expands the figure to have its minor direction
fit.
Instead, the behavior I would expect from fit (resp. max) is
for the *expansion ratio* to be the minimum (resp. maximum)
of the expansion ratios in the two directions (not the sizes
in those directions, but the ratio between the sizes of the
figure and the container). The difference is noticeable when
the container and contained have different aspect ratios.
Consider for example a 20x30mm figure in a 50x150mm page
(strange numbers, just used to show what I mean): with the
current code, using 'fit' would consider the largest
dimension (30) and thus calculate a factor of 150/30 = 5,
but this gives us an image which is 100x150mm, i.e. an image
that doesn't fit! Whereas, if we computed the ratios 50/20 =
2.5 and 150/30 = 5, we would know that the ratio to be
picked was 2.5 in 'fit' and 5 in 'max'.
Or I misintepreting the meaning of 'fit' and 'max'?
an alternative is:
\framed[width=5cm,height4cm]
{\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=4cm,maxheight=5cm,width=10cm]}
i.e. setting the maximum values
I hadn't thought about using width and maxwidth (and
maxheight) at the same time, thanks. Of course, I'd rather
have 'fit' and 'max' usable in boxes :)
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[NTG-context] Typo in xtag-pre.tex
Hello all,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep letterhar *
xtag-pre.tex:\defineXMLentities [tex-hat]{\letterhar}{\^{}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep letterhat *
cont-new.tex: \let\normalsuper\letterhat
cont-new.tex: {\let\normalsuper\letterhat
syst-chr.tex:.catcode `.^ 12 .xdef .letterhat B.string^E
xtag-ini.tex:\letcatcodecommand\xmlcatcodesr `\^ \letterhat
xtag-map.tex: \defineXMLentity[tex-hat]\letterhat
xtag-raw.tex:\defineXMLentity [tex-hat]{\letterhat}
xtag-run.tex: .catcode`.^=.@@active .let^.letterhat
I suspect xtag-pre should read letterha*t* and not
letterha*r* ...
Should these kind of bugs be reported to the bugtracker too,
or maybe just there?
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[NTG-context] Framing a linetable?
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[NTG-context] Linetable columns with natural width
Hello all, I really like linetables, but there's one thing I'm having problems with: setting its column to have a 'natural' width depending on maximum content width, and letting ConTeXt calculate this automatically. Is it possible? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
Saturday, July 21, 2007 Brian R. Landy wrote: Hi, What version of ConTeXt are you using? I just noticed a difference a few days ago between the version installed by TeXLive 2007 and the April 2007 release (tested locally through contextgarden) placing an image into a natural table, using factor=max. I'll post an example in a separate thread shortly. According to the log: ConTeXt ver: 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII fmt: 2007.7.17 int: english/english It's the one shipped with Debian. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
Friday, July 20, 2007 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello all,
I have to place a number of images into some given-size
frames in a layer. The images should be scaled
proportionally to fit into the frame. The code I'm working
with is:
\defineframed[framedimg][
frame=on,framecolor=elux,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=white,
width=\wdfig,
height=\htfigone,
offset=overlay,
]
\setlayer[figs][voffset=\nextfigvoff]{%
\framedimg{%
\externalfigure[#1][
factor=fit,
% maxwidth=\wdfig,
% maxheight=\htfigone,
% frame=on,
]%
}%
}%
where \wdfig, \htfigone are the frame size and \nextfigvoff
is the vertical offset which must be placed. I've tried
factor=fit, factor=max, but in both cases I get images which
cross the boundaries of the frame, mostly in the horizontal
direction. If I add the maxwidth/maxheight specification,
images don't get scaled at all.
I would expect factor=fit to scale the image in such a way
that the biggest direction fits into the enclosing box,
while factor=max would scale the image in such a way that
the smallest direction fits into the enclosing box. Instead,
in both cases the vertical direction is being fitted, with
no apparent consideration for the horizontal direction.
What am I doing wrong and what should I do to fix it?
Ok, I've tried studying the source and I really think that
the way factor scaling is computed is wrong. However, the
fix is nontrivial, and a somewhat thorough checking should
be implemented, with earlier check for the factor value
(fit, max, broad), since the logic selecting which dimension
to scale depends on the kind of scaling.
Anyway, I've found a temporary solutin to my problem by
using a very large value of scale=, coupled with appropriate
maxwidth and maxheight values.
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[NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit
Hello all,
I have to place a number of images into some given-size
frames in a layer. The images should be scaled
proportionally to fit into the frame. The code I'm working
with is:
\defineframed[framedimg][
frame=on,framecolor=elux,
background=color,
backgroundcolor=white,
width=\wdfig,
height=\htfigone,
offset=overlay,
]
\setlayer[figs][voffset=\nextfigvoff]{%
\framedimg{%
\externalfigure[#1][
factor=fit,
% maxwidth=\wdfig,
% maxheight=\htfigone,
% frame=on,
]%
}%
}%
where \wdfig, \htfigone are the frame size and \nextfigvoff
is the vertical offset which must be placed. I've tried
factor=fit, factor=max, but in both cases I get images which
cross the boundaries of the frame, mostly in the horizontal
direction. If I add the maxwidth/maxheight specification,
images don't get scaled at all.
I would expect factor=fit to scale the image in such a way
that the biggest direction fits into the enclosing box,
while factor=max would scale the image in such a way that
the smallest direction fits into the enclosing box. Instead,
in both cases the vertical direction is being fitted, with
no apparent consideration for the horizontal direction.
What am I doing wrong and what should I do to fix it?
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Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?
Tuesday, July 17, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
2007/7/17, Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Apparently, I mistook what the doublesided option does for
layers. I've currently solved the problem in the following
way:
\definelayer[test][doublesided=yes]
\setlayer[test][odd][..,..=..,..]{content}
\setlayer[test][even][..,..=..,..]{content}
Indeed, but if I want both sides to always have the same
content, I need to double-code every content insertion, or
write a macro to do that for me. It just moves the trickery
somewhere else :)
My expectation was that when \setlayer is used without
specification on a doublesided layer, it would set the
content for both sides. Alternatively, a way to specify
(even via presets) a position which is page-parity dependent
would be a good thing.
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[NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?
Hello all, is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a particular layer has different positioning depending on wether it's on a left or right page? I can of course do it manually, either by changing the layer position on each page or by using two layers instead of one, but I wanted to know if there was a more straightforward way that I was missing. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?
Monday, July 16, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello all,
is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a
particular layer has different positioning depending on
wether it's on a left or right page?
You can possible use setups and use \doifoddpageelse to set the
layers. See
http://archive.contextgarden.net/thread/20061102.171506.2fa793e2.en.html
Thanks a lot. I don't know if using presets is actually
going to reduce the coding, though.
In the mean time, I've found that layers have a doublesided
option. This apparently allows you to override the
left/right settings of a layer, so I tried
\definelayer[title][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdtit,
y=\topspace,
width=\wdtit,
height=\httit,
state=repeat,
doublesided=true,
]
\setuplayer[lefttitle][
x=\backspace,
]
\definelayer[desc][
x=\backspace,
y=\topspace,
width=\wddesc,
height=\htdesc,
state=repeat,
doublesided=true,
]
\setuplayer[leftdesc][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wddesc,
]
\definelayer[figs][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig,
y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
width=\wdfig,
height=\htfig,
]
\setuplayer[leftfigs][
x=\backspace,
]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]
However, the 'main' setup is always used, the left one is
never used. Am I doing something wrong?
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Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?
Monday, July 16, 2007 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Monday, July 16, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello all,
is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a
particular layer has different positioning depending on
wether it's on a left or right page?
You can possible use setups and use \doifoddpageelse to set the
layers. See
http://archive.contextgarden.net/thread/20061102.171506.2fa793e2.en.html
Thanks a lot. I don't know if using presets is actually
going to reduce the coding, though.
In the mean time, I've found that layers have a doublesided
option. This apparently allows you to override the
left/right settings of a layer, so I tried
\definelayer[title][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdtit,
y=\topspace,
width=\wdtit,
height=\httit,
state=repeat,
doublesided=true,
]
\setuplayer[lefttitle][
x=\backspace,
]
\definelayer[desc][
x=\backspace,
y=\topspace,
width=\wddesc,
height=\htdesc,
state=repeat,
doublesided=true,
]
\setuplayer[leftdesc][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wddesc,
]
\definelayer[figs][
x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig,
y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
width=\wdfig,
height=\htfig,
]
\setuplayer[leftfigs][
x=\backspace,
]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]
However, the 'main' setup is always used, the left one is
never used. Am I doing something wrong?
Apparently, I mistook what the doublesided option does for
layers. I've currently solved the problem in the following
way:
\unexpanded\def\titlexpos{%
\ifodd\realpageno\dimexpr\wdinside+\wdall-\wdtit\else\wdinside\fi
}
\definelayer[title][
x=\titlexpos,
y=\topspace,
width=\wdtit,
height=\httit,
]
\unexpanded\def\descxpos{%
\ifodd\realpageno\wdinside\else\dimexpr\wdinside+\wdall-\wddesc\fi
}
\definelayer[desc][
x=\descxpos,
y=\topspace,
width=\wddesc,
height=\htdesc,
]
\unexpanded\def\figsxpos{%
\ifodd\realpageno\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig\else\wdinside\fi
}
\definelayer[figs][
x=\figsxpos,
y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
width=\wdfig,
height=\htfig,
]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]
However, this solution doesn't strike me as particularly
elegant. I've seen in page-lyr.tex that support for
left/right layers is currently in progress, but if I read
the code correctly it just creates three layers (name,
leftname, rightname) and they have to be filled
individually. It would be nice to have a simpler interface
to repeated layers with position recalculated on each page.
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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt
Saturday, July 14, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello all,
Welcome back Giuseppe. I had benifitted a lot from your efforts of
improving the math support in ConTeXt. Had it not been for the amsl
module, I might have never switched to ConTeXt and would have missed a
lot of fun.
Thanks :) I really hope I'll be able to get back at ConTeXt
development and/or other contributions to the TeX world.
This is how I would do it. Not sure if this is the best way. Use
tokens to keep track of the current information that should go to the
layer, and repeat the layer on each page.
\newtoks\testtoks
\definelayer[test]
[ width=\paperwidth,
height=\paperheight,
]
\startsetups make:test
\setlayer[test][x=5cm,y=3cm]{\framed[align=normal,width=5cm]{\the\testtoks}}
\stopsetups
\setupbackgrounds[page][setups=make:test,background=test]
An interesting approach. I really need to learn to use
setups.
In the end, as the layout specifications got defined more
accurately, it turns out the number and position of the
layer elements is much less flexible than I originally
thought, so I don't need this approach anymore, but I'll
keep it in mind for future needs.
One thing that I've noticed with repeating layers is that
they appear also on 'empty' pages (as in those left by
forcing an even or odd page). Is it possible to suppress
then in those cases? Do the blank pages left by these
commands have a particular setup that can be tweaked?
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[NTG-context] Linetables ROW alignment
Hello all again, I'm using linetables, because despite their lack of documentation they've been rather easy to set up to achieve the effects I needed (colors, alignment, etc). I have a small problem with the title row though, because I would like its entries to be all typeset centered (whereas the rest of columns has them partly left and partly right aligned) but apparently there is no (easy) way to override alignment in a single row. In particular, \setuplinetable[r][1][align=middle] doesn't work, even though all other specifications (color, background, style) work as expected. I think that if a row alignment is required, it should be applied and take precedente over column alignment. Any suggestions? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta P.S. Looking at core-ltb.tex I've found that \BH and \EH are mapped to \linetableBR and \linetableER. Is this intentional, or a cut-n-paste error? The way it is now, \linetableBH and \linetableEH are never triggered ... ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Section marking forgotten on next even page?
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[NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt
Hello all,
I have a couple of questions concerning the use of layers in
ConTeXt. I'm working with Luigi Scarso on a layout which is
characterized by some fixed-position elements surrounding
the actual main body of text.
For the fixed-position elements, I'm using layers. However,
my ConTeXt is a little rusty[*], so there are a couple of
things which I need hints for.
The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the
layer's content until they change? I've currently set them
as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each
new page.
The second question is slightly more complex: is there a way
to add contents to a layer, rather than replacing the
current layer content? Something like a macro
\addtolayer[layername][hoffset=whatever(optional)]{additional content}
Thanks in advance,
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P.S. To prove that it's really me, I'll signal two minor
typos in the context source:
core-tab.tex:88:%D {inintable, ifsplittables}
(first should be ifintable), and
page-lyr.tex:81: \c!x=\zeropoint,\c!y=\zeropoint,\c!position=\v!no,
page-lyr.tex:87: \c!location=rb,\c!position=\v!no,\c!page=,
position=no is set twice in the same setup.
[*] I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, the
University has sucked up most of my time. I was never too
happy with it, and I'm planning on a comeback :D
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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt
Friday, July 13, 2007 Peter Rolf wrote:
Hi Guiseppe,
welcome back ;)
Thanks :) (btw, it's gIUseppe :D)
Giuseppe Bilotta schrieb:
The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the
layer's content until they change? I've currently set them
as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each
new page.
use a collector (Details, p.75) instead; I have no experience with them,
but setup should be the same as for layer.
% - - - - -
\definecollector[foo][state=repeat]
\starttext
\switchtobodyfont[32pt]
\setcollector[foo]{\strut eat more...}
\flushcollector[foo]
\page[yes]
\setcollector[foo][hoffset=6cm]{\strut poppler}
\flushcollector[foo]
\stoptext
% - - - - -
Excellent, thanks.
BTW, just to show how out of the loop I am, where can I get
the Details manual? :D
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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt
Friday, July 13, 2007 Peter Rolf wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta schrieb: The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the layer's content until they change? I've currently set them as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each new page. use a collector (Details, p.75) instead; I have no experience with them, but setup should be the same as for layer. % - - - - - \definecollector[foo][state=repeat] Excellent, thanks. BTW, just to show how out of the loop I am, where can I get the Details manual? :D http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf Oh yeah thanks. I'll be able to get a few more tricks from that. I've found that [state=repeat] works for layers too. I wonder if there are any technical differences between them ... -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Nath bug?
Thursday, January 12, 2006 Aditya Mahajan wrote:
The following does not work? Everything is fine if I replace the nath
module with amsl. Any suggestions on how to make this work.
\usemodule[nath]
\starttext
\startalign
a = \underbrace{b}_{c} \\
c = d
\stopalign
\stoptext
Sorry for the very late reply. Yes, the ConTeXt nath module
doesn't support this form of alignment. I would say 'yet',
but the hack of the original LaTeX module to adapt it to
ConTeXt has hit the limit of my expertise in both LaTeX and
ConTeXt.
I think the time has come to bring up the topic with Hans
and turn nath into a specification ('define these new
commands that behave this way') to be reimplemented from
scratch in a more ConTeXtish way, keeping in my that the
general idea behind the workings of the nath revolution can
be maintained since they are format-independent.
Hans, do you think you have time to dedicate to this
subject?
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] pushed text in description
Thursday, December 29, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: You latex example does what I *thought* \txt did. My guess is Hans misunderstood Giuseppe a bit, and Giuseppe never really tested the code, because what happens now is a bit nonsensical. It's true, I never got around to testing the code, since in rewriting the text I didn't need it anymore :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] No partial contents for parts after the first
Monday, November 28, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
sure, but i need a small test file -)
\setuphead[part][placehead=yes,resetnumber=no]
\starttext
\part{Part one}
\placecontent
\chapter{One}
\section{One-one}
\chapter{Two}
\section{Two-one}
\part{Part two}
\placecontent
\chapter{Three}
\chapter{Four}
\section{Four-one}
\stoptext
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] No partial contents for parts after the first
Friday, November 25, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
I'm using the latest ConTeXt reported here, and I'm noticing
that partial contents for the second, third etc part are not
available. I have a bunch of files each of which goes like
\part{some part}
Some text (not always)
\placecontent
\chapter{some chapter}
Each of this file is \input from the master file. However,
only in the first part you actually see the (part-specific)
content: every other part reports
system : part,chapter,section,subsection not found/processed
The setup for the contents is as follows:
\setupcombinedlist[content]
[interaction=all,
partnumber=no,
alternative=c,
level=subsection]
\setuphead[part][alternative=middle,placehead=yes,resetnumber=no]
The problem is the 'resetnumber': if I take that off,
everything works perfectly.
I've been debugging this, and the reason for the thing not
coming up for parts after the first is that when
resetnumber=no the current level is not properly detected:
in one case you get
\currentlevel -:1
in the other
\currentlevel -:2:2:4:2
Which is obviously wrong. Indeed, the problem is here:
\listentry{part}{1}{1}{Introduction}{2::1:0:0:0:0:0:0::7}{8}
\listentry{chapter}{2}{1}{Presentation}{2::1:1:0:0:0:0:0::8}{9}
\listentry{section}{3}{1.1}{History and
motivation}{2::1:1:1:0:0:0:0::8}{9}
\listentry{chapter}{11}{2}{The
basics}{2::1:2:0:0:0:0:0::12}{13}
\listentry{section}{12}{2.1}{Notation}{2::1:2:1:0:0:0:0::12}{13}
(more stuff)
\listentry{subsection}{78}{2.4.2}{Scaling the
coordinate system}{2::1:2:4:2:0:0:0::31}{32}
\listentry{part}{79}{2}{Mathematical
tools}{2::2:2:4:2:0:0:0::34}{35}
\listentry{chapter}{82}{3}{Bézier cubic
analysis}{2::2:3:0:0:0:0:0::35}{36}
OOOPSIE! Since resetnumber=no, the listentry keeps the old
settings for chapter, section the like. This is obviously
wrong. Even if the number is not reset, the sectionformat
*must* be reset, since at the beginning of the new
higher section(level) you are not in the previous one
anymore. So for example when starting a new part (with
resetnumber=no), and until
the first chapter of the new part is started we are in
chapter 0 for that part, not in chapter
'last-chapter-from-previous-part'.
Can this be fixed?
Ok, I came up with a solution that seems to work:
\def\definesection[#1]%
{\doifundefined{\??se#1}
{\doifelsenothing\firstsection
{\def\firstsection{#1}%
\setevalue{\??se#1\c!before}{\v!text}%
\setevalue{\??se\v!text\c!after}{#1}}
{\setevalue{\??se\commalistelement\c!after}{#1}%
\setevalue{\??se#1\c!before}{\lastsection}%
\setevalue{\??se\lastsection\c!after}{#1}}%
\advance\nofsections \plusone
\setevalue{\??se#1\c!level}{\the\nofsections}%
\letvalue{\??se#1\c!after}\empty
\setvalue{\e!next#1}{\@@nextsectionnumber{#1}}%
\setvalue{#1\c!number}{\@@longsectionnumber{#1}}%
\setvalue{#1\s!format}{\@@longformatnumber{#1}}%
\setevalue{\??by#1}{#1}%
\setevalue{\??by\v!by#1}{#1}%
\makecounter{\??se#1}%
\makecounter{\??se lastvalueof#1}% GB
\edef\lastsection{#1}%
\setvalue{\??sk#1}{#1}%
\letvalue{\??se#1\c!marking}\empty
\setupsection[#1][\c!previousnumber=\v!yes]}}%
% New command preserves the value of the next sectionlevel
% when resetnumber=no
\def\checkpreservevalueafter#1%
{\ifnum\getvalue{\??se#1\c!level}\the\nofsections
\edef\preservedsection{\getvalue{\??se#1\c!after}}%
\ifconditional\@@resetsubheadnumbers
\setcounter{\??se lastvalueof\preservedsection}%
{0}%
\else
\setcounter{\??se lastvalueof\preservedsection}%
{\countervalue{\??se\preservedsection}}%
\fi
\fi}
\def\@@setsectionnumber#1#2%
{\letgvalueempty{\??se#1\s!start}% signal i.p.v. boolean
\setcounter{\??se#1}{#2}%
\checkpreservevalueafter{#1}
\resetsectioncounters{#1}
\checkpagecounter}
\def\@@nextsectionnumber#1%
{\letgvalueempty{\??se#1\s!start}% signal i.p.v. boolean
\ifnum\countervalue{\??se lastvalueof#1}\zerocount
\setcounter{\??se#1}{\countervalue{\??se lastvalueof#1}}
\setcounter{\??se lastvalueof#1}{0}
\fi
\pluscounter{\??se#1}%
\checkpreservevalueafter{#1}
\resetsectioncounters{#1}
\checkpagecounter}
This has been tested in a fairly complex document (some
levels with resetnumber=no, some with the usual resetnumber;
sectionblocks etc). It works, and fixes the placecontent not
working. Will this go into mainline?
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[NTG-context] Two framed texts on the same line
Hello, I would like to achieve this kind of typographical effect: two text blocks, one of them aligned to the left margin, the other with left-aligned text but with the right margin at the right margin of the page. I can obtain each of them with for example the following: \defineframedtext[lepi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=left] \defineframedtext[repi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=right] Now, I want them to be at the same height. However, using things like placesidebyside or even just \startlepi ... \stoplepi \startrepi ... \stoprepi doesn't work. Any suggestions? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Two framed texts on the same line
Friday, November 25, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
depends a bit on the usage; the following shows you a few tricks
\defineframedtext
[gb]
[align=raggedright,
width=.5\textwidth,
offset=0pt,
frame=off,
before=,
after=]
\startbuffer[left]
\startgb[none]
\input tufte
\stopgb
\stopbuffer
\startbuffer[right]
\startgb[none]
\input zapf
\stopgb
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\input tufte
\definepairedbox[gb][location={right,top}]
\startbaselinecorrection
\placepairedbox[gb]
{\getbuffer[left]}
{\getbuffer[right]}
\stopbaselinecorrection
\input zapf
\stoptext
Oh, interesting this pairedbox thing (it's undocumented,
though). I was hoping to be able to do it like this:
\defineframedtext[lepi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=left]
\defineframedtext[repi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=right]
\definepairedbox[epi][location={right,top}]
\placepairedbox[epi]
{\startlepi
{\bf Coordinatore}\par
prof. F.~Nicolosi
\stoplepi}
{\startrepi
{\bf Tutor}\par
prof. G.~Russo
\stoprepi}
But it won't work because the second box (repi) gets placed
with its LEFT margin on the right margin of the page,
whereas I needed to be with its right margin at the right
margin of the page. I think the problem is that, from what I
get by reading the source, in paired boxes are not treated
equally.
Basically, the rpbolem seems to be that the width of the
lepi framed text is not the 'natural width' of the text,
despite the width=fit command ... why is this so?
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Two framed texts on the same line
Friday, November 25, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
\def\dodostopframedtext#1#2% % no \baselinecorrection, see faq docs
{\endgraf
\removelastskip
\doifvalue{\??kd#1\c!depthcorrection}\v!on % local and global
{\forgetall
\vskip-\struttotal
\verticalstrut
\egroup
\forgetall
\vskip-\lineheight
% will be an option, not default
% \setbaselinecorrections
% \donegbotbaselinecorrection
\verticalstrut}
\stopboxedcontent
\stopcolor
\egroup
\doif{#2}\v!none\insidefloattrue % new
\doif{\framedtextparameter{#1}\c!location}\v!none\insidefloattrue
%
newer
\ifinsidefloat
\box\framebox
\else
\doplacement[\??kd#1][\c!depthcorrection=\v!off]{\box\framebox}%
\fi
\egroup}
Hm, strange, I patched core-rul and redumped the format, but
location=none still doesn't work. However, \startlepi[none]
does, so I'll go by this for the time being, thanks.
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Re: [NTG-context] Two framed texts on the same line
For what it's worth, I'm now using the following:
\defineframedtext[lepi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=none]
\defineframedtext[repi][align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,frame=off,location=none]
\definepairedbox[lrepi][location={right,top}]
\noindent
\startlepi[none]
\obeylines
{\bf Coordinatore}
prof. F.~Nicolosi
\stoplepi\hfill\startrepi[none]
\obeylines
{\bf Tutor}
prof. G.~Russo
\stoprepi
The [none] spec is required until the location=none
specification is fixed :)
TeX does complain about underfull boxes, but the output is
just what I need.
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[NTG-context] Empty page at the end of the document
I'm having a totally blank page at the end of the document. The document has a page number, but nothing is on it. I remember this being a known bug when front/body/backmatter was used ... is there a known fix? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Empty page at the end of the document
Friday, November 25, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: beware, if you you nil the page commands, you may need to make sure yourself that the pagebreaks between section blocks are forced at the right moment in order to reset for instance marks (used in running headers); think of: end of frontpart (no page break) some changes to header settings begin of bodypart (no page break) start of chapter (forcingpage break) versus end of frontpart (page break) some changes to header settings begin of bodypart (redundant page break) start of chapter (forcing (redundant) page break) in the first case, the header may be wrong on the last page of the frontpart because it is set before the page break forced by the chapter so, the suggested settings are perfectly ok but don't blame me for sync problems -) Yeah, that's the reason why I only used [page=] only on the last sectionblock. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] No partial contents for parts after the first
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
I'm using the latest ConTeXt reported here, and I'm noticing
that partial contents for the second, third etc part are not
available. I have a bunch of files each of which goes like
\part{some part}
Some text (not always)
\placecontent
\chapter{some chapter}
Each of this file is \input from the master file. However,
only in the first part you actually see the (part-specific)
content: every other part reports
system : part,chapter,section,subsection not found/processed
The setup for the contents is as follows:
\setupcombinedlist[content]
[interaction=all,
partnumber=no,
alternative=c,
level=subsection]
\setuphead[part][alternative=middle,placehead=yes,resetnumber=no]
The problem is the 'resetnumber': if I take that off,
everything works perfectly.
Can somebody please look into this? It's the last thing I
need to print my thesis ...
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Empty page at the end of the document
Friday, November 25, 2005 Tobias Burnus wrote:
Hi,
Hans Hagen wrote:
beware, if you you nil the page commands, you may need to make sure
yourself that the pagebreaks between section blocks are forced at the
right moment in order to reset for instance marks (used in running
headers);
end of frontpart (page break)
some changes to header settings
begin of bodypart (redundant page break)
start of chapter (forcing (redundant) page break)
in the first case, the header may be wrong on the last page of the
frontpart because it is set before the page break forced by the chapter
Well, somehow reading this above, it sounds different than I get by the
current settings:
\starttext
setupheadertexts[FontMatter]
\startfrontmatter \chapter{One}\chapter{Two} \stopfrontmatter
\setupheadertexts[BodyMatter]
\startbodymatter \chapter{Three} \stopbodymatter
\stoptext
Gives [One] [Two] [Three] [empty page].
Reading above I'd expect: [One] [Two][Three] or [One][Two][empty
page][Three].
I actually want to have [One][Two][Three].
If I now set page=, then I get [One][Two][Three], but on page [Two] is
the wrong header.
What is the proper way of doing so? Or: Why is there a page(break) added
_after_ the matter and not - like \chapter{} - a pagebreak before?
Tobias
I think the problem lies in the fact that there is one
page= setting that is used both in the \startsectionblock
*and* in the \endsectionblock. Maybe it would be better to
have a pagebefore/pageafter thing, with the default being
pagebefore=yes,pageafter=no.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, Something like this? Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead? (PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an alternative one?) Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use the one I'm sending this from. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Yes, that's a good start :) however, I would leave the
option to have both the symbol and the text, exactly as if
it was run-in \head (i.e. with the actual item test
following the \head text on the same line). However, you ma
want to have this as an option to \head ... maybe it can
already be achieved with an appropriate afterhead?
so you want
1. somethingbold whatever text follows in running font
2. somethingelsebold whatever othertext follows in running font
That would be quite simple, like so:
\def\itemplus{\dosingleempty\doitemplus}
\def\doitemplus[#1]#2{\item[#1] {\bf #2}}
For example (where \bf is \someconfigurablecommand).
However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different
methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these
be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same
source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize
to achieve the different effects?
This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for
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[NTG-context] No partial contents for parts after the first
I'm using the latest ConTeXt reported here, and I'm noticing
that partial contents for the second, third etc part are not
available. I have a bunch of files each of which goes like
\part{some part}
Some text (not always)
\placecontent
\chapter{some chapter}
Each of this file is \input from the master file. However,
only in the first part you actually see the (part-specific)
content: every other part reports
system : part,chapter,section,subsection not found/processed
The setup for the contents is as follows:
\setupcombinedlist[content]
[interaction=all,
partnumber=no,
alternative=c,
level=subsection]
\setuphead[part][alternative=middle,placehead=yes,resetnumber=no]
The problem is the 'resetnumber': if I take that off,
everything works perfectly.
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Re: [NTG-context] No page number in appendix
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello, I just noticed that the appendix number suppresses
page numbering. Is there a reason for that? Shouldn't this
be configurable?
Forget about this, I was using the wrong commands. The
correct way of doing it
\startappendices
\chapter{first appendix}
\chapter{second appendix}
\stopappendices
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] interline space?
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: Charles Doherty wrote: On 23 Nov 2005, at 08:55, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: How do I get a double-spaced document? \setupinterlinespace[big] seems to do nothing ... ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Giuseppe, I used this for my daughter's thesis recently. \setupinterlinespace[line=1.8\bodyfontsize] %change 1.8 to whatever \setupwhitespace[big] default is 2.8ex (.72/.28 ratio), so gb may try 5.6ex But why doesn't \setupinterlinespace work? Or am I using the wrong syntax? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: (PS. I cannot send mail to your address, it bounces, do you have an alternative one?) Hm, which address is bouncing? bigfoot is long dead, use the one I'm sending this from. I get: When trying to deliver your message, the mail server at controller-1 encountered problems with the following addresses: For [EMAIL PROTECTED], Site (iol.it/193.70.193.95) said: 504 controller-1: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname Looks like your sending program or ISP doesn't provide a fully qualified hostname, but rather something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] or something. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: However, I find it really 'funny' that there are n different methods to create items in an enumeration ... should these be rather enumeration options, so that you can use the same source code and just chang the stuff in \setup/\staritemize to achieve the different effects? This is why I was thinking of using \head, still, for example. Ah, I see. So instead of just the \setupitemize[symbol=] have something more like \setupitemize[textcommand=, numbercommand=, command=] as for heads and such? Or maybe something as simple as texthead=yes :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] interline space?
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
\def\setuprelativeinterlinespace[#1]%
{\processallactionsinset % \regelwit = dummy !
[#1]
[ \v!on=\oninterlineskip,
\v!off=\offinterlineskip,
\v!reset=\setfontparameters,% just \setstrut, test first
\s!unknown=\assignvalue{#1}\regelwit{1.00}{1.25}{1.50}%
\spacing\regelwit]}
now, (apart from \regelwit being dutch), this value is used nowhere
else, so this setting will not be seen afterwards
in this respect it's not a bug but just a
characteristics; however, it
would make sense to let it carry over, so ...
i have to think about it
It setupinterlinespace does nothing, why is it present at
all? Can we get this fixed by the end of the week? It would
be nice if I could use it in my thesis.
Maybe also allow some numerical factor which would be a
percentage of the amount ConTeXt would choose by default? So
that
\setupinterlinespace[fraction=1] (default)
fraction = .5 (half *bleah*)
fraction = 1.6 (would give what is usually intended as
doublespace
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: this is a variant of taco's posted solution: [snip] so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol placement I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome :)) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Thursday, November 24, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: this is a variant of taco's posted solution: [snip] so, this way you can hook in a command that is executed after the symbol placement I like it! (Ok, I won't use it this time because in the mean time I reworked the text to use \head, with the benefit of some extra lines which in a PhD thesis are always welcome :)) anyway, i posted an update at: www.pragma-ade.com/temp/cont-tmf.zip this one has - the interline patch - the itemize extensions - vit's columnset mark stuff (yet imperfect but ..) it's in /temp because i want it tested first -) Will I ever be able to thank you enough? :) Setting up the interline space works, thank you very much. (A minor nitpick: AFAIK standard typographical rules require footnotes to be single-spaced even when the text is doublespaced. Can we have an interlinespace= option for footnotes (and all other forms of non-mainline text)? Also, while the lists are not double-spaced (good!) the index (register) is. I think it shouldn't be.) (Also: for miktex you should set UseEnginePath to *false*; and kpsewhich does not use --engine= under miktex, at all.) I think that to rollout my thesis the only thing that needs a fix is the (local) \placecontent not working when resetnumber=no (see appropriate email) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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[NTG-context] A blank entry in the bibliography
I'm seeing a blank entry in the bibliography. However, since it's not referenced in the text, I can't tell which one is it. Some debug options to find out? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New bib module beta
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I've created a new beta of the bib module, and uploaded it to my server. You can get it here: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051123.zip - bibl-ams.tex: AMS style (from Giuseppe) * renamed citation type 'number' to 'serial' Except in bibl-ams :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New bib module beta
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I've created a new beta of the bib module, and uploaded it to my server. You can get it here: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051123.zip \setupheadtext[it][\biblistname=Bibliografia] -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] New bib module beta
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I've created a new beta of the bib module, and uploaded it to my server. You can get it here: http://tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051123.zip Hm. criterium=all doesn't seem to work anymore, regardless of whether I place it in \setuppublications or \placepublications. Also, I'm using alternative=ams and the numbers past 10 stick to the text. I also notice that they are left-aligned, and not right-aligned. How can I fix these things? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Indenting totally disappeared?
Since I upgraded my ConTeXt, even doubling the \setupindenting[medium,next] fails to give me any paragraph indentation. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Hello,
does ConTeXt have something which is halfway between
itemizations and descriptions? I have a small set of
properties that should be enumerated together. Right now I'm
doing it by defining a \description and then doing
\desc{something} stuff \par
\desc{something else} other stuff \par
etc
However, this is an overall cumbersome syntax, especially
for the result I would like to obtain.
using \startitemize ...\stopitemize with \sym{something}
\sym{something else} comes *very* close to what I would like
but I can't seem to find a way to prevent the \sym text to
wade into the actualt text of the description.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello,
does ConTeXt have something which is halfway between
itemizations and descriptions? I have a small set of
properties that should be enumerated together. Right now I'm
doing it by defining a \description and then doing
\desc{something} stuff \par
\desc{something else} other stuff \par
etc
\startdesc {something} \stopdesc
is an alternative syntax
Yeah, I know, but it's still clumsy.
However, this is an overall cumbersome syntax, especially
for the result I would like to obtain.
using \startitemize ...\stopitemize with \sym{something}
\sym{something else} comes *very* close to what I would like
but I can't seem to find a way to prevent the \sym text to
wade into the actualt text of the description.
Suggestions?
you want more space for the sym?
\startitemize[5*broad]
\item {word}
\item {another}
\stopitemize
(if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)
No please this is horrible. I would like the item/desc/head
to 'run in' the text. I guess I'll have to use the \startdesc stuff :\
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Re[3]: [NTG-context] Halfway between itemizations and descriptions
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Wednesday, November 23, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
you want more space for the sym?
\startitemize[5*broad]
\item {word}
\item {another}
\stopitemize
(if needed, you can define an itemgroup with a default wider left margin)
No please this is horrible. I would like the item/desc/head
to 'run in' the text. I guess I'll have to use the \startdesc stuff :\
To be precise: the effect I'm looking for is one which could
be obtained by \head commands in \start/\stopitemize, if we
could have the heads run-in with the text.
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[NTG-context] [BIB] nocite / criterium=all
Small problem with bibtex. I have (in a document different
from the one I mentioned before)
\setupbibtex[database={mrabbrev,bilotta}]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams,criterium=all]
but when I do
\placepublications[criterium=all]
I get nothing. If I \cite[something], that something gets
included. How am I supposed to place all the publications
without citing anything?
BTW, you may also want to introduce the \nocite command,
which adds something to the publications list without
actually citing it in the text. If you want, you can make it
support the \nocite[*] syntax to hiddenly cite everything.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Floats page?
Monday, November 21, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
How do I tell ConTeXt that I don't mind if the pages are
totally filled by floats (two, three, as many as fit) even
if there is no text whatsoever?
\setupfloats
[ntop=100]
Doesn't help.
\appendix{Test results}
\setupfloats[ntop=100]
\dorecurse{8}{\input tests/curves-\recurselevel.tex
\page
}
Each file that gets included have some 8 'tables' like the
following:
\placetable[here][approx-1-0.11269]{Results for curve 1, radius 0.11269}
{\centerline{\startcombination[1*2]{\scantokens{
\setuptable[bodyfont=8pt]
\starttable[|l|l|r|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|]
\HL
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Method}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Options}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Iterations}%
\NC\use4\ReFormat[Bc]{Lambdas}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error\%}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{$L^2$}%
\SR
\HL
\CL[lightred]\MR
\NC Kinch\NC \NC 0\NC 0\NC 98005\NC 1\NC 09034\NC 0\NC 01891\NC 16\NC
78059\NC0\NC 59899\NC\MR
\NC Legendre\NC direct, 16 samples\NC 9\NC 0\NC 98275\NC 1\NC 1018\NC 0\NC
00871\NC 7\NC 7328\NC0\NC 33727\NC\MR
\NC Legendre\NC Kinch, 16 samples\NC 10\NC 0\NC 98275\NC 1\NC 1018\NC 0\NC
00871\NC 7\NC 7328\NC0\NC 33727\NC\MR
\NC Jacobi (1,1)\NC direct, 16 samples\NC 10\NC 0\NC 98359\NC 1\NC 10323\NC
0\NC 00768\NC 6\NC 81577\NC0\NC 34516\NC\MR
\CL[lightgreen]\MR
\NC Jacobi (1,1)\NC Kinch, 16 samples\NC 10\NC 0\NC 98359\NC 1\NC 10323\NC 0\NC
00768\NC 6\NC 81577\NC0\NC 34516\NC\MR
\NC Jacobi (2,2)\NC direct, 16 samples\NC 9\NC 0\NC 98329\NC 1\NC 10202\NC 0\NC
00874\NC 7\NC 75774\NC0\NC 34391\NC\MR
\NC Jacobi (2,2)\NC Kinch, 16 samples\NC 9\NC 0\NC 98329\NC 1\NC 10202\NC 0\NC
00874\NC 7\NC 75774\NC0\NC 34391\NC\MR
\NC Chebyshev\NC direct, 16 samples\NC 9\NC 0\NC 98243\NC 1\NC 10117\NC 0\NC
00919\NC 8\NC 15498\NC0\NC 33874\NC\MR
\NC Chebyshev\NC Kinch, 16 samples\NC 10\NC 0\NC 98243\NC 1\NC 10117\NC 0\NC
00919\NC 8\NC 15498\NC0\NC 33874\NC\MR
\NC Grid\NC direct, 3 scans\NC 70\NC 0\NC 98382\NC 1\NC 10435\NC 0\NC 00703\NC
6\NC 24151\NC0\NC 35264\NC\MR
\CL[lightblue]\MR
\NC Grid\NC direct, 5 scans\NC 60\NC 0\NC 98373\NC 1\NC 10409\NC 0\NC 0069\NC
6\NC 12706\NC0\NC 34982\NC\MR
\NC Nelder-Mead\NC direct, to 0\NC 132\NC 0\NC 98373\NC 1\NC 10409\NC 0\NC
0069\NC 6\NC 12706\NC0\NC 34982\NC\MR
\NC Nelder-Mead\NC direct, to 2\NC 108\NC 0\NC 98373\NC 1\NC 10409\NC 0\NC
0069\NC 6\NC 12706\NC0\NC 34982\NC\MR
\NC Nelder-Mead\NC Kinch/Legendre\NC 94\NC 0\NC 98373\NC 1\NC 10409\NC 0\NC
0069\NC 6\NC 12706\NC0\NC 34982\NC\MR
\HL
\stoptable
}}{}
{\externalfigure[tests/curves-1.1]}{}%
\stopcombination}}
Sometimes, two table+figure combo would fit in one page, but they
are still put in separate pages. Also, the first page has
the appendix title but nothing is inserted, not even the
first float.
Suggestions?
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] AMS-style bibliography?
Sunday, November 20, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Bug will be fixed in the next release, and I've added your file, thanks. Cool. Can we please have it released before my deadline? ;) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Floats page?
How do I tell ConTeXt that I don't mind if the pages are totally filled by floats (two, three, as many as fit) even if there is no text whatsoever? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] AMS-style bibliography?
Saturday, November 19, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Is there a pre-rolled bibliography style that looks follows the AMS specs? Probably not, but point me to the AMS specs. I also have a numbered style planned, c.f. plain.bst, and a style for the ntg's Maps. There are now 4 bibl-XXX files in the zip, all with bad names: bibl-apa: APA bibliography style bibl-apa-de : APA bibliography style (german) bibl-aps: APS bibliography style bibl-ssa: SSA-like (by David Wooten) I simply do not have any idea what those acronyms stand for (except APS, which is the American Physical Society, I believe). Anybody: if you have created other that you want to share, send them to me and I will add the file to the bib module distribution. Ok, I'm hacking on somethings whose final result is going to be very close to the things I get with AMS in LaTeX. The only thing I'm having problem with is putting the brackets around the numbers in the bibliograpy ... more on this later. (BTW, when trying out various alternatives= I found that only aps works, all of the others bomb complaining extra # marks. I'm using a September 2005 version of t-bib ... do I need to upgrade?) The very latest t-bib is here: http:/tex.aanhet.net/bib/m-bib-beta-20051008.zip but it has a known problem with # marks. ;-) I'll give it a shot :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] AMS-style bibliography?
Saturday, November 19, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Is there a pre-rolled bibliography style that looks follows
the AMS specs?
Probably not, but point me to the AMS specs. I also
have a numbered style planned, c.f. plain.bst,
and a style for the ntg's Maps.
There are now 4 bibl-XXX files in the zip, all with bad
names:
bibl-apa: APA bibliography style
bibl-apa-de : APA bibliography style (german)
bibl-aps: APS bibliography style
bibl-ssa: SSA-like (by David Wooten)
Please find attached my first go at an AMS-like style. Can
you tell me why the pub list shows without brackets? This is
the code I have in my doc.
\setupbibtex[database={mrabbrev,bezier,texmf,curves}]
\setuppublications[alternative=ams]
\setuppublications[
refcommand=num,
numbering=yes,
sorttype=cite,
criterium=all,
%numbercommand=\bibalignednumber,
]
...
\let\POSTSCRIPT\PS
\let\systemsuppliedtitle\chapter
\completepublications
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bibl-ams.tex
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[NTG-context] [BIB] Command names in author
The following
@article{frechet,
author = M. {Fr\'echet},
title = {Sur quelques points du calcul fonctionel},
journal = Rendiconti Circ. Mat. Palermo,
volume = 22,
year = 1906,
pages = 1--74
}
produces an incorrect entry in the bbl file:
\startpublication[k=frechet,t=article,
a={{{Fr\'echet}}},y=1906,
n=25,s={Fr\}06]
\artauthor[]{M.}[M.]{}{{Fr\'echet}}
\pubyear{1906}
\arttitle{Sur quelques points du calcul fonctionel}
\journal{Rendiconti Circ. Mat. Palermo}
\volume{22}
\pages{1--74}
\stoppublication
The defective s= key blows .bbl parsing.
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[NTG-context] AMS-style bibliography?
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[NTG-context] URLs and online contents with BibTeX in ConTeXt
What is the preferred way to insert URLs and references to online contents with the bibtex module for ConTeXt? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Drawing oriented paths in MetaFun
Does MetaFun provide some macro to draw oriented paths? I would like it to basically add a small arrow *in the middle* of the path? Such a macro draworiented somepath somespecs ; would have to act like drawarrow firsthalf(somepath) somespecs ; draw secondhalf(somepath) somespecs ; Is it available already, or should I roll my own? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Drawing oriented paths in MetaFun
Wednesday, November 16, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Does MetaFun provide some macro to draw oriented paths? I would like it to basically add a small arrow *in the middle* of the path? Such a macro draworiented somepath somespecs ; would have to act like drawarrow firsthalf(somepath) somespecs ; draw secondhalf(somepath) somespecs ; Is it available already, or should I roll my own? Hm. I came up with def draworiented expr c = path _c_ ; _c_ := c ; do_draworiented enddef ; def do_draworiented text t = draw _c_ t ; drawarrow subpath(0, length(_c_)/2) of _c_ ; enddef; which works, although I have to do draworiented (reverse p1) Is there an easy way to have it work with draworiented reverse p1 ? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Drawing oriented paths in MetaFun
Wednesday, November 16, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: Does MetaFun provide some macro to draw oriented paths? I would like it to basically add a small arrow *in the middle* of the path? Such a macro draworiented somepath somespecs ; would have to act like drawarrow firsthalf(somepath) somespecs ; draw secondhalf(somepath) somespecs ; Is it available already, or should I roll my own? Hm. I came up with def draworiented expr c = path _c_ ; _c_ := c ; do_draworiented enddef ; def do_draworiented text t = draw _c_ t ; drawarrow subpath(0, length(_c_)/2) of _c_ ; enddef; which works, although I have to do draworiented (reverse p1) Is there an easy way to have it work with draworiented reverse p1 ? Oh sorry it works ... however, it traces half of the curve twice. So I came up with the next: def draworiented expr c = path _c_ ; _c_ := c ; do_draworiented enddef ; def do_draworiented text t = drawarrow subpath(0, length(_c_)/2) of _c_ t ; draw subpath(length(_c_)/2, length(_c_)) of _c_ t ; enddef; This still isn't perfect, but it works. It needs a little tuning so that the arrow is more centered, and of course it could be improved to put the arrow at any arbitrary point on the path. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context 2005.11.15 Released
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: * New functionality: indentnext=auto Blank lines in the source are taken into account when indextnext=auto is in effect. A really short example of usage would be: \setupindenting[small,yes] \setupformulas[indentnext=auto] \starttext \startformula a = b\stopformula \input tufte % blank line = with indentation \startformula a = b\stopformula \input tufte % no blank line = no indentation \stoptext YOH! Hans, I love you, will you marry me? ;) (BTW, I'm wondering if auto should be the default indentnext setting for the displays? Or would that be pressing too much? :)) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Context 2005.11.15 Released
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: Hans, I love you, will you marry me? ;) well, sending me a copy of your thesis once it's finished would be a good start -) That's really not a problem :) (BTW, I'm wondering if auto should be the default indentnext setting for the displays? Or would that be pressing too much? :)) indeed too much a compatibility issue i was thinking of a module or so: m-indent (or s-indent) or maybe a more generic module with setups (m-setups), so that one can say: \setups[auto-indent] an alternative is to change (in the several \setupcommands) the yes/no's into something autoyes and autono which will default to yes/auto no/auto depending on the global setting of yes/auto Uh ... yes, I think something like \setupformulas[indentnext=default|yes|no|auto] \setupitemgroup[indentnext=default|yes|no|auto] etc and then \setups[indentnext=yes|no|auto] ? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] indentnext question
Monday, November 14, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote: not 'anymore', more 'not as you expected' -) this feature is not supported at the specific item group level, only for all itemgroups (took me a while to see that one, after entering panic-bug mode); BTW, could you please consider adding the indentnext=auto option to all places that support indentnext? This is a very simple patch I already offered in the list, see for example http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01739.html http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01744.html Of course it needs to be updated to new code. It's an important for those of us that (like me) have displayed material that terminates the paragraph, and displayed material that doesn't (displayed material = itemgroups, formulas, quotations etc). In this case, the blank lines/\pars after the displayed material are significant, since they tell if the subsequent text is still part of the previous paragraph or not. Can you please consider it for inclusion in the main tree? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Not resetting chapter number on new part
Friday, November 11, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote: Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: I would like the latter to be numbered 2, not 1. I can of course do this by hacking \part, but I would like to know if there is a way to prevent number reset (something like resetchapter=no). It looks like \setuphead[part][resetnumber=no] maybe does what you want? *SMACK* Oh yes of course thanks :) -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Bug / feature request tracking
Monday, November 7, 2005 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
4. and a feature request: it would be good to have some formatting
options like LaTeX makeidx offers:
\index{keyword|textit} will
produce a page-number in italics in the register. That would be
immensely useful to produce a structured index.
I have the following, in my PhD thesis
\setupindex[pagestyle=normal]
\setupregister[index][def][pagestyle=bold]
\def\indexdefinition#1{\index[def::]{#1}}
\def\defterm#1{\leavevmode{\indexdefinition{#1}\it#1}}
\def\deftermx#1#2{\leavevmode{\processcommalist[#2]\indexdefinition\it#1}}
\def\useterm#1{\leavevmode{\index{#1}#1}}
\def\usetermx#1#2{\leavevmode{\processcommalist[#2]\index#1}}
the 'def' is an index 'class', which can be formatted
differently from the others. I use it to makr the definition
of a term (the other commands are just shorthands :)). You
can set up as many classes as you want and format each of
them as you wish. Much better than the LaTeX way :) More
details in the manual.
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Re[6]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error
Monday, October 31, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:
Giuseppe
Thanks for the tip about \high. That works (and looks cleaner in the
source file too). But
\grk{\overbar{\grk{kj}} Kull'hnhc d\high{\tfx\grk{ou}} med'eonta
ka`i Arkad'ihc polum'hlou}
still chokes on \overbar and returns the insufficient symbol fonts
error.
First of all, I notice you are having quite a few \grk in
there, unless that's a typo for $...$. Have you tried
\overline instead of \overbar?
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Re: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:
I am getting some puzzling errors when I try to use the Greek fonts
in math formulae (to represent Greek numerals as written in mss.)
In a short file, both
\overbar{\grk{kj}} and
$\overline{\hbox{\grk{kj}}}$
work as expected, even when they occur in Greek text.
But in a long, complicated file with lots of Greek etc. and the same
environment file, I get
! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
Are you using the amsl or nath modules?
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote: Giuseppe I am not using either the amsl or the nath modules. Never had to before. (The file has compiled successfully in its current form, but that was about a week ago.) If I should be using one of these modules, which do you recommend? Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you should use these modules :) On the contrary, I just recently found a bug in them that gave an error similar to the one you found, when using point sizes over 12. Since I knew the fix for that I was hoping it was your problem, but sadly it isn't. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote: Giuseppe I inserted \usemodule[t-amsl] into the preamble and got the same error message: ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts. But, when I inserted \usemodule[t-nath] the error message was !TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=5000] which seems much more promising. Assuming that increasing the input stack is possible and desirable, how do I do it? Please disregardi this, and remove the two modules. Since it seems the 'Missing symbol fonts' problem only happens with a big document, try the usual 'divide and conquer method': terminate your document right after the formula that gives the error, and progressively comment out halves of the preceding text until you manage to isolate the chunk of text preceding the formula that generates the error. Example: say that that from \starttext to \stoptext there are 300 lines, and that the formula is at the last line. Then you comment the first 150 lines and see if the error occurs. If it doesn't happen, you uncomment the first 150 and comment the subsequent 150 (Except for the formula, of course). This way you can tell which half causes the error. In the uncommented half that causes the error you repeat the process (75 lines at a time), then again and again until you manage to focus around the shortest document that causes the error. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[4]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:
Giuseppe
Actually, it can happen with a very short document too:
\starttext
\grk{\overbar{\grk{kj}} Kull'hnhc
d$^{\hbox{\tfx\grk{ou}}}$ med'eonta
ka`i Arkad'ihc polum'hlou}
\stoptext
will produce the
! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts error.
To generalize: all my attempts to enter mathmode when the bodyfont is
Greek (using one of the fonts in Thomas Schmitz Greek module) fail
because of insufficient symbol fonts.
I wonder if this bears of the fact that in this module the fonts have
to be defined at every size used in the document. The relevant line
in type-tasgreek is
\definebodyfont
[30pt,25pt,20pt,18pt,17.3pt,14.4pt,14pt,12pt,11pt,10.5pt,10.1pt,10pt,
9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]
[rm]
My environment file sets the body font size to 10.1 pt.
I'm not the font expert, but the problem seems to be that
math small text isn't being set (if I see it correctly,
you're using math mode to enter a superscript). I would
suggest you try \text instead of \hbox in the math part, and
even better try \hi{superscript text} or \super{superscript
text} for the superscript.
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[NTG-context] Please add Fraktur to the math fonts
The Fraktur fonts are missing from the standard math definitions. Currently, I have this kind of hack in t-amsl: \definebodyfont [17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt] [mm] [mc=eufm10 sa 1] \definebodyfont [8pt,7pt,6pt] [mm] [mc=eufm7 sa 1] \definebodyfont [5pt] [mm] [mc=eufm5] Basically, for what I can see, the problem is that mc= is not defined in the default typescript files. Adding it would be as simple as replicating the mi lines into mc lines, at least for computer-modern similar, since the actual font used is the same. Could this please be done for the official distribution? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Par break/justification problem
I have a paragraph that is formed by two parts: these are normally run together, except when the last line of the first part ends at less than a certain amount max_amount from the right margin. In this case, there should a 'seamless line break', i.e. a line break with the text still fully justified to the right margin. Example: First part of the paragraph: second part is run in and then the text continues. Second example: This is still the first part of the pagrah: second part will now be put on the next line but the last line of the first part should be fully justified. What kind of hskip/penalty/whatever combo should I put between the first and last part for this to happen? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re[2]: [NTG-context] Smart \in
Saturday, October 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello all,
I have a document which is split into separate \parts. I
would like the \in command ( friends) to automatically add
the part reference when cross-referencing across parts.
Example:
\part[part:one]{Part one}
\chapter[ch:one]{Chapter one}
\chapter[ch:two]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
\part[part:two]{Part two}
\chater[ch:2-1]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
The first \in would say chapter~1, the second chapter~1,
part~1.
\setuphead[part][prefix=part]
\setuphead[chapter][prefix=ch]
\setuphead[chapter]prefix=+] % kind of automatic
(actually, prefixes are blabla::whatever deep down in context)
Looks like I didn't make myself clear. I don't want the
label prefix to be automatic.
I want the reference to automatically add part ... (in the
text) when the current part is different from the part of
the referenced thing.
I see that the example was too verbose to be minimal
enough. Second go:
\starttext
\part{Part one}
\chapter[interest]{Chapter one}
\chapter{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[interest]
\part{Part two}
\chapter{Chapter one of part two}
\chapter{Chapter two of part two}
As seen in \in chapter[interest]
\stoptext
If you compile this example, you'll see that both \in's
print the same output, but the second one is referring to
chapter 2 in part 1, and this is not clear (it seems it's
referring to chapter 1 in the same part), so it should add
, part 1 to make it clear.
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Vowels with accent (teTeX - Linux)
Sunday, October 9, 2005 Jilani Khaldi wrote: \mainlanguage[italian] \setupbodyfont[12pt] \setuppapersize[A4] \enableregime[il1] % il = iso-latin-1; change it % based on the encoding you use in your editor \starttext perché, sarà, così, totò, più \stoptext -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort
Hello Taco,
would it be possible for your module to support the
\noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
Basically, a key like
key = {\noopsort{value1}}value2
will print as value2 but be sorted under value1 (details in
the bibtex references?
For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort
Friday, October 7, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
Hello Taco,
would it be possible for your module to support the
\noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
Sure, will do (new beta later today).
THanks.
For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
my document.
That's wrong, I think. Should be \def\noopsort#1{}, yes?
Yes, of course.
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[NTG-context] Automatic next indent
Hello all, and Hans in particular: Some time ago http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01744.html I had proposed a patch that added the auto value to some commmon indentnext options. I would *really* this to be taken into consideration. Rationale: things like formulas, itemgroups and the like (basically, everything that allows indentnext) are displays. Displays are parts of the document that are embedded in a paragraph but are put in display by appropriate indenting other tricks. Now, there are cases in which the paragraph continues after the display, and cases when it doesn't. So for example Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing and a continuation of the same paragraph with some more text and other text would be different from Some text in a paragraph, plus other text, still in the same paragraph and a displayed thing In a separate pragraph, we have some other text Note that the two cases should be handled separately: in the first case, I *don't* want any indentation nor any blank line; in the second case, I might want either or both. indentnext=auto would NOT put an indent in cases like this: some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial still same paragraph but WOULD put an indent here some paragraph \startdisplayedmaterial displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else) \stopdisplayedmaterial Different paragraph Hans, can you please consider it for inclusion? The patch is somewhat out of date, given the age, but the principle should be obvious. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Smart \in
Hello all,
I have a document which is split into separate \parts. I
would like the \in command ( friends) to automatically add
the part reference when cross-referencing across parts.
Example:
\part[part:one]{Part one}
\chapter[ch:one]{Chapter one}
\chapter[ch:two]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
\part[part:two]{Part two}
\chater[ch:2-1]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]
The first \in would say chapter~1, the second chapter~1,
part~1.
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[NTG-context] \setupregister - \setupindex
I just noticed that \setupindex is not exactly the same as \setupregister[index]; indeed, \setupindex does not allow the syntax \setupindex[form][options=values] whereas \setupregister[index][form][options=values] is valid. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] A particular form of index (register) coupling
Hello,
I have a register where all the entries appear once (and
only once) in a particular form (\index[def::]{entry}) but can appear any
number of times in the standard form (\index{entry}).
I would like the particular coupling to make all standard
form entries clickable and linking to the one and only
\index[def::]{entry}.
This could be of course generalized to some kind of
couplingcommand=\command#1#2 that is user-defineable ...
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[NTG-context] bib module: interaction (wish)
Hello all, and Taco in particular, I'm a great fan of interaction, and I was wondering about what kind of interaction the BibTeX module could support. I'm thinking of two of them in particular. One of them is the obvious link to list of references on click. However, I'm also a great fan of balloons, so I was thinking of something like a popup-on-hover showing the full reference, thus sparing the need to go back-and-forth through the document. (Can these things be optimized so that the popup is only stored once in the PDF?) A potential problem would be with compressed citations, but I guess that in this case making only the displayed numbers active is the right solution. -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Block of text with natrual width but right-aligned
I have a few lines that I need to push towards the right maring. The lines should all have their natural width, and be all left-aligned to the left of the block, but the block itself should be right aligned. Like the following First line of text | Second line of text | One more line of text| How do I achieve this? -- Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
